ZIP DOBYNS (Astrology) - Film Score Rundowns

I think all water is subconscious past conditioning. No exceptions. Anytime
you’re dealing with the subconscious, you’re dealing with the past, something brought in
from the past, operating in the subconscious from the beginning as habit patterns—
automatic, instinctual things at the unconscious level. This applies to all water, not just
the Moon. But the Moon is the Baby-Mother relationship. It’s very immediate, unless you
universalize it if you have Neptune in the 4 th house or the Moon in Pisces, for example,
then everyone is your child—you want to save the world, the bleeding heart for
humanity. But in its own right, it’s the baby-mother relationship that’s very immediate.
Pluto is the mate relationship and very immediate, but it is the capacity to become selfaware
to achieve self-mastery through that relationship with the other person. It’s
learning to master yourself out of respect for the rights of the other person, learning to
know yourself and see yourself in the mirror of the other person. In general, then, I think
all water (and to some extent, Uranus) has this capacity for going beyond the immediate
physical world.
After you look at those psychic planets on the angles, look at the aspects to each
other, and then of course you can look at them in the houses and the signs: 4 th house, 8 th
house, 12 th house, Cancer-Scorpio-Pisces. So consider those as the potential for that
openness to the universe, being able to be open through the unconscious level, receive
from the universe and to give, because the other side of the coin is the ability to reach out
to the universe through his same channel.
Now: In terms of one specific area of psychic phenomena--the mind controlling
an effect on the physical world—I have personally found Vesta prominent. Vesta is one
of the asteroids. It seems to be the super-Virgo asteroid, nose to the grindstone, total
commitment, total involvement (“Tunnel vision” being one of the best phrases for Vesta).
It’s the ability to be completely concentrated on some little thing, like the essence of
Virgo: narrow it down to the smallest focus, and do it exactly right. And that potential
for total, laser-like focus I think is a factor in the psychokinetic kinds of psychic ability. I
do find Vesta prominent frequently in those charts. It’s really fascinating to watch.
A couple of years ago I was in a conference in the East, and they had two kids in
their teens (one was only a thirteen year old girl) who were doing this metal-bending
phenomena [like Uri Geller]. They handed out the kids’ charts to the audience, and said,
“See if you can find out what’s in their charts that really shows remarkable ability.” And
of course they didn’t have the asteroids in them, and I quickly put the asteroids in the
charts. And there was Vesta on the Midheaven for both of them! That’s where Edison had
it, by the way. He used to say that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration: dogged,
determined focus. So Vesta isn’t necessarily going to be psychic but if the person chooses
to direct it that way, then I think high focus Vesta has that potential for using that total
focus tendency in this way.
Vesta prominence is especially associated with psychic healing or other forms of
healing. For example, three of the most famous psychotherapists of our century –Carl
Jung, Alfred Adler, Fritz Perls—(all founders of their own school of psychotherapy) all
had Vesta-Sun conjunctions. Freud had Vesta conjunct the ruler of his Ascendant (he had
Scorpio rising) and Vesta was tightly conjunct Pluto. Also Kathryn Kulman, who was
one of the most phenomenal spiritual healers of our day, had a Sun-Vesta conjunction
very very close to within a degree. And Josephine [??unclear on tape], who is reputedly
the best of the psychic surgeons in the Philippines, had this phenomenal mind-over-
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