ZIP DOBYNS (Astrology) - Film Score Rundowns

Bill: “Hmmm.”
Zip: “But what often happens is that we identify consciously with one of these
splits in our nature and we project the other. We may repress it but that’s a problem
because then we really block it (bury it in the unconscious) and then we get sick. For
instance, people who are totally blocking their need for somebody else giving them some
of their security (the Cancer side of their nature) will often end up with stomach
problems, even ulcers if they carry it too far. Or we can project it and then we find
someone else who will do it for us. And so when we find ourselves attracted to the same
kind of person over & over who’s excessive in some way, as a general rule, then it’s a
giveaway that it’s a part of ourselves that we’re blocking, are we’re finding it in someone
else. And part of your nature wants to be close but a lot of your nature says, “Not too
close! Keep your distance—arm’s length. Let’s keep it open, fluid, flexible, work
together, communicate together—but let’s not get trapped.” And yet it is part of your
nature that says I want to be swallowed up in a kind of mystical union.
Bill: “Or ‘Don’t be too close too much.’ “
Zip: “Yes, but there’s this mystical thing, the Pisces, the search for the emotional
absolute [Mars, ruling the Aries Descendant, is in the Pisces-12 th house conjunct
Neptune]. This is the search for the perfect, ecstatic, mystical, total union/love experience
that of course cannot be sustained in a human being or relationship! So it comes in
flashes but we cannot count on it, and we couldn’t live that way all the time anyway.”
Bill: “Well, one shouldn’t expect that anyway because another person is exactly
that—another person.”
Zip: “Exactly.”
Bill: “And I personally don’t believe—though I’m open to be convinced—that
there’s a complement person—you know, a counterpart.”
Zip: “I think you’re absolutely right. And you just took my words—that’s what I
always tell everybody.”
Bill: “Oh?”
Zip: “You just said it. That’s very—I always—“
Bill: (Laughs) “Gee, do you want me to sit there?! And you can sit where I am!”
Zip: “I always tell everybody that consciously you know that. Consciously you
know that another human being is just going to be human and fallible—not going to be a
perfect person, you’re not going to have a perfect relationship. And yet the chart shows
that also a part of you unconsciously is still looking for that.”
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