ZIP DOBYNS (Astrology) - Film Score Rundowns

we’ve created and do it for us. I think that’s nonsense. I think we have to experience the
results of our own character. The only way to change our lives is to change our character;
that is, our habits.
Every principle has positive and painful alternatives as far as details go. There’s
nothing that is automatically good or bad. So you can do something positive with every
single pattern. Now: I’m very Virgo in my astrology. I want to know: Can this be tested?
Can it be used? Will it help you? Can you do something with it? And if somebody’s just
telling me about a past life and other mystic mumble-jumbo and spacey, I just turn it off.
[Bill offers a comment about Vedic astrology theories] Yes, test them and see if they
work. But, as I said, what I have seen has a lot of it been destructive and not helpful. One
case was a woman who had her chart done by a Vedic astrologer—not a Hindu but a U.S.
born—who told her she was going to die before the end of the year of cancer because
Venus was mad at her! Now there was this much germ of truth in this with Venus—she
didn’t die, by the way; that was an error, but she did have cancer—and she had told her
astrologer that. She had conflict aspects in her relationship with her husband, and that
was why she had the cancer. So you can call that “Venus is mad at you” but what do you
do with it when someone says Venus is mad at you? Go do an offering to Venus? What
she needed was to make peace with her husband, work out a reasonable relationship
there.
[Bill then states that a well known Vedic U.S. born astrologer told his wife that
Mars on her Ketu was like a “black hole” and it kind of held her back.]
Zip: “Yeah. That’s nonsense. What does it mean in the first place? What can you
do with it in the second place? Mars is very close to your south node and to me that says,
“You have an obligation to do something with personal action (Mars) in the spiritual
realm (Sagittarius)—to gain spiritual knowledge and then give it to the world (south node
principle)….So that just confirms my experience with Vedic astrology that it’s too often
negative and not helpful.”
[Bill later makes a comment on another matter about how one has to love the
other person you are having problems with]
Zip: “That’s true. You have to wish her well. Love does not mean you want to be
with that particular person! Love means you want what’s good for her. You want what’s
good for her growth, for her positive potential.”
[Later Bill asks, “Do you think on some level, since we come in where we fit, that
we chose to have the parents we got?”]
Zip: “I don’t use the word ‘choice.’ I think we get what we have earned. A second
grader has no choice about going to third grade. They’re put where they fit…In the
continuity of habits [habits form character], habits bring you where you fit. So if someone
had the habit of being in a power struggle with authority, he comes in where he has a
power struggle with authority—with parents—in order to do what he really wants to do
and where he fits…A lot of people do get a boost by coming in to parents who can give
them money or give them experience, but it’s not a choice as far as I’m concerned. You
get what you have earned whether or not you like it. The habits draw you where you fit
but how it happens I don’t pretend to know. I do think that when we come back in, we are
attracted where we are forced to face the habits we have developed, and then learn from
the consequences of them. So we keep getting the consequences until we learn, and we
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