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and this is significant, the Corps has had<br />

the patience to allow us to build. We’ve<br />

been building this … for three years now.<br />

We have done a little bit of validation, and<br />

we will start full up this coming October.<br />

Our school year goes October to June.<br />

And our program is a two year construct.<br />

Because they allowed us that patience, we<br />

have really focused in the most important<br />

part, and that is building the courseware<br />

that matches this, and more importantly, a<br />

faculty development program so our<br />

instructors can lead seminars and not sit<br />

there and try to lecture, which is key.<br />

LIMITATIONS OF<br />

DISTANCE EDUCATION<br />

PROMMASIT: You acknowledge that<br />

there are limitations to a distance course,<br />

and that the Marine Corps also understands<br />

that and does not expect it to be<br />

equal. That’s significant. Quite often people<br />

think the results should be exactly the<br />

same.There has to be some understanding<br />

that it is a different environment.<br />

VAN ZUMMEREN: You’re exactly<br />

right. What we do is we sit down with the<br />

Marine Corps University and the colleges<br />

specifically, and we say, “All right, list your<br />

core competencies, the outcomes, the<br />

expectations of the graduates, and they do.<br />

Then we sit down and honestly say, “Can<br />

we meet some of it or all of it Based on<br />

that, what are the learning objectives that<br />

support that How do you get to those<br />

outcomes”<br />

We really home in on what’s most critical.<br />

The seminar experience allows us to<br />

hone in on leadership, writing, and speaking,<br />

along with the learning outcomes or<br />

objectives of strategic thought.<br />

THE CHALLENGE<br />

PROMMASIT: What has been the biggest<br />

challenge for you so far in the<br />

changeover process<br />

VAN ZUMMEREN: A very loaded<br />

question—the whole thing has been very<br />

challenging. I think dealing with the<br />

unknown. In my graduate studies, I did<br />

two hybrid online courses at George<br />

Mason—hybrid in the sense you took, of a<br />

16-week semester, you took four lessons on<br />

campus and 12 lessons from your home.<br />

They were great learning experiences.<br />

Some of my course directors are online<br />

instructors, or were students of online. So<br />

many of us bring a lot of experience doing<br />

online type stuff. All of us have been<br />

engaged in our nonresident seminar programs.<br />

We bring all that experience.<br />

The biggest change is [the exam].<br />

Because the seminar program, up to today,<br />

has been an option, students still took the<br />

multiple-choice exam, which was the same<br />

exam that the box of books students took.<br />

Everything was really based off of what<br />

that exam was going to be. So the instructors<br />

really ended up teaching the exam.<br />

Not a good way of doing business, but<br />

that’s how it matured.<br />

This changed to a seminar, or to a<br />

Socratic learning method in which the students,<br />

theoretically, are the ones who are<br />

teaching each other, and the instructor is<br />

really a facilitator. That we see as the long<br />

pole in the tent. That is where the challenge<br />

is—to get the seminar leaders to be a<br />

little bit more quiet and to orchestrate or<br />

coordinate the conversations to make sure<br />

that everybody participates. That’s what<br />

we’ve been doing with our faculty development<br />

sessions and practicing for the last<br />

two years. To me, it was, it is, and it’s going<br />

to be always a challenge for us.<br />

CONCLUSION<br />

The changeover process is admittedly a<br />

challenge. The Socratic learning method<br />

forces students to be active in class sessions.<br />

More important than accumulation<br />

of knowledge, the main focus is on teaching<br />

Marine officers how to respond to situations<br />

by applying creative critical-<br />

Volume 4, Issue 4 <strong>Distance</strong> <strong>Learning</strong> 91

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