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e that leadership and be <strong>in</strong> control <strong>of</strong> that<br />

power dynamic. Maybe that is someth<strong>in</strong>g<br />

we need to consider as we go through this.<br />

Danielle Brazell: How do we do that with<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

traditional White, nonpr<strong>of</strong>it, hierarchical structure<br />

governed by Internal Revenue Service rules <strong>of</strong><br />

501(c)? How can we comply with those rules<br />

when <strong>the</strong>y may not work with our particular<br />

focus or organization? How can we revolutionize<br />

that process, transform that governmental<br />

process, and open it up to allow more staff and<br />

different k<strong>in</strong>ds <strong>of</strong> stakeholders to have a voice<br />

<strong>in</strong> guid<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> way <strong>the</strong> organization operates?<br />

Brenda Allen: I th<strong>in</strong>k, for one, you decide that<br />

is what you want to do, and you f<strong>in</strong>d allies who<br />

are <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> help<strong>in</strong>g you accomplish that<br />

goal. I th<strong>in</strong>k it is very important to become<br />

resolute about it. When you are resolute,<br />

you can attract more ideas and allies.<br />

Danielle Brazell: I am curious to know if<br />

anyone else around <strong>the</strong> table has this concern<br />

or has found this to be an issue <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir work.<br />

Juan Carrillo: You brought up <strong>the</strong> subject <strong>of</strong><br />

art mak<strong>in</strong>g for <strong>the</strong> purpose <strong>of</strong> social justice,<br />

and you equated art mak<strong>in</strong>g with social justice.<br />

I’m not sure I heard that expressed earlier as<br />

clearly as <strong>in</strong> your statement. <strong>The</strong> assumption<br />

that art mak<strong>in</strong>g should be used for <strong>the</strong> purpose<br />

<strong>of</strong> advanc<strong>in</strong>g justice <strong>in</strong> our communities is not<br />

shared by everyone. I share that assumption with<br />

you, and that perspective has been a big part<br />

<strong>of</strong> my belief that artists should be engaged <strong>in</strong><br />

work that connects <strong>the</strong>m to <strong>the</strong>ir community.<br />

Many years ago, at <strong>the</strong> California <strong>Arts</strong> Council,<br />

we encountered people who didn’t want to<br />

work <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> traditional nonpr<strong>of</strong>it structure. <strong>The</strong>re<br />

were <strong>in</strong>dividual artists who wanted to work <strong>in</strong><br />

cooperatives and did not have a nonpr<strong>of</strong>it<br />

legal structure <strong>in</strong> place. We were challenged<br />

to f<strong>in</strong>d a way to provide f<strong>in</strong>ancial support to<br />

those artists to assist <strong>the</strong>m <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir work. We<br />

were fortunate <strong>in</strong> that we were able to fund<br />

<strong>in</strong>dividual artists. As a result, we funded <strong>in</strong>dividual<br />

artists represent<strong>in</strong>g those cooperatives.<br />

At <strong>the</strong> <strong>Arts</strong> Council, staff shared this sense that<br />

somehow we had to f<strong>in</strong>d a way with<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

structure to support artists <strong>in</strong> do<strong>in</strong>g what <strong>the</strong>y<br />

believed needed to be done to engage <strong>in</strong><br />

community work. We struggled to f<strong>in</strong>d a way<br />

for government to carry out its commitment<br />

to support artists, whe<strong>the</strong>r through established<br />

channels or through new loopholes that paved<br />

<strong>the</strong> way for new practices and procedures.<br />

Brenda Allen: One quick recommendation,<br />

which is from Stephen Covey’s work. 4 Perhaps<br />

you have heard <strong>of</strong> this notion <strong>of</strong> circles <strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>fluence?<br />

<strong>The</strong> analysis is used to ga<strong>in</strong> clarity regard<strong>in</strong>g<br />

where you do have power and how you<br />

can wield that power to accomplish whatever<br />

it is you are try<strong>in</strong>g to do. We need to recognize<br />

those larger systems and not deny <strong>the</strong>ir power,<br />

but just try<strong>in</strong>g to figure out what one’s circles<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>fluence are and bra<strong>in</strong>storm<strong>in</strong>g what can<br />

be done <strong>in</strong> those circles is useful. With<strong>in</strong> this<br />

room, I dare say, we have a great many circles<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>fluence. As a result, we have much more<br />

power than sometimes we believe we do.<br />

Nan Elsasser: I want to respond, Danielle, to<br />

what we did when we were challenged. We<br />

started our work as an all-volunteer entity.<br />

We had no structure or organization. <strong>The</strong>n<br />

we morphed <strong>in</strong>to a sort <strong>of</strong> collective k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong><br />

organization. <strong>The</strong>n we ran <strong>in</strong>to 501(c)(3) k<strong>in</strong>ds<br />

<strong>of</strong> issues. For example, <strong>the</strong>re are foundations<br />

that tell you <strong>the</strong>y want grassroots representation<br />

but that really want just <strong>the</strong> opposite. <strong>The</strong>y say,<br />

“Well, I don’t know anyone on your board”<br />

or “Who <strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> York is on your board?” <strong>The</strong>y<br />

also adhere to standard 501(c)(3) procedures<br />

aga<strong>in</strong>st hav<strong>in</strong>g staff on boards and so forth. So<br />

what we have done is we have a traditional<br />

board <strong>in</strong> terms <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir credentials, but part <strong>of</strong><br />

our agreement with <strong>the</strong>m is that <strong>the</strong> staff and<br />

students <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> organization have total control<br />

over policy and artistic decisions. You have<br />

to be will<strong>in</strong>g to trust that. <strong>The</strong> board members<br />

do a lot <strong>of</strong> work for us, but <strong>the</strong>y jo<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> board<br />

know<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>y are not go<strong>in</strong>g to have certa<strong>in</strong><br />

powers. We also <strong>in</strong>vite board members to<br />

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