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16<br />

interviu / INTERVIEW<br />

me: saqarTvelo rTul periods gadis, rac<br />

araerTxel gaxda evropul doneze diskusiis<br />

sababi. aseT situaciaSi socialuri fobiebis<br />

gamZafreba aRiniSneba. ramdenad SeiZleba<br />

aseTma situaciam gaamarTlos socialuri umciresobebis<br />

uflebebis daucveloba? rodesac<br />

qveyana saomar mdgomareobaSi imyofeba, upriania<br />

Tu ara adamianis uflebebis dacvis Sesusteba?<br />

Th: sinamdvileSi, swored iseT situaciebSi,<br />

rogoricaa erovnuli usafrTxoebisa Tu ekonomiuri<br />

krizisi, meti yuradReba unda davuTmoT<br />

tradiciulad diskriminirebul jgufebs.<br />

aseT situaciebSi didi riski arsebobs, rom<br />

sazogadoebis garkveuli nawili gantevebis<br />

vacis Ziebas daiwyebs. ase rom sapirispiros<br />

vityodi – mniSvnelovania ganvagrZoT muSaoba,<br />

rogorc erovnul doneze, ise saerTa-<br />

Soriso organizaciebis mier, raTa davrwmundeT<br />

imaSi, rom gantevebis vacis Ziebasa da<br />

diskriminacias adgili ar aqvs. usafrTxoebis<br />

safrTxeebi da ekonomikuri krizisi ar unda<br />

iyos diskriminaciis gamrTleba.<br />

me: saqarTvelos saxalxo damcvelis aparats<br />

araerTxel gamouTqvams CvenTan TanamSromlobis<br />

mzadyofna, Tumca politikur doneze<br />

es mzadyofna ra<strong>to</strong>mRac qreba xolome. Cven<br />

uflebadarRvevis ramdenime saqme mivawodeT<br />

saxalxo damcvelis aparats, sabolood ki arc<br />

erTi maTgani ar iqna Setanili parlamentisTvis<br />

gankuTvnil angariSSi. Tqveni ofisi TanamSromlobs<br />

evrosabWos qveynebis ombudsmenebTan. ra<br />

azris xarT amgvar moqmedebaze da ras urCevdiT<br />

qveynis masStabiT adamianis uflebebis damcvelebs?<br />

Th: yvela qveynis ombudsmeni unda akvirdebodes<br />

adamanis uflebebis mdgomareobasa da<br />

diskriminaciis semTxvevebs qveyanaSi da saku-<br />

Tari poziciac unda daafiqsiros. es is rCeva<br />

da gamowvevaa, romelsac Cven maTTan Sexvedrisas<br />

vuziarebT. rac Seexeba saqarTvelos<br />

saxalxo damcvels, am sakiTxebs mis warmomadgenlebTan<br />

momavali Sexvedrebisas wamovwev.<br />

esaubra paata sabelaSvili<br />

lems bringing the issue <strong>to</strong> a political level. We<br />

have reported numerous cases of discrimination<br />

against LGBT people but none of them<br />

have been reflected in the ombudsman’s human<br />

rights reports <strong>to</strong> parliament. Your office<br />

has cooperated with ombudspersons across the<br />

region. What is your observation in this regard<br />

and what is your wish for national human rights<br />

institutions?<br />

TH: It is important that Ombudsmen in all countries<br />

act as an independent watchdog, also over<br />

cases of discrimination and take their positions on<br />

these cases. This is an encouragement that I give<br />

<strong>to</strong> them when we talk and I will also discuss that<br />

with the Georgian Ombudsman’s staff at one of my<br />

upcoming meetings.<br />

Interview conducted by Paata Sabelashvili<br />

Tomas hamarbergi, fo<strong>to</strong>: Jurnali "me"<br />

Thomas Hammarberg, Pho<strong>to</strong> by ME Magazine

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