HIV infection/AIDS”, posed a terrible threat to humankind. The panic

morten qerumi 17 wlis ganmavlobaSi xelmZRvanelobda
daniis adamianis uflebebis instituts
da imavdroulad iyo adamianis uflebebis
dacvis erovnuli organizaciebis saerTaSoriso
qselis prezidenti. igi agreTve iyo gaeros
rasobrivi diskriminaciis aRmofxvris komitetis
wevri 6 wlis ganmavlobaSi. morten qerumi
evrokavSiris fundamenturi uflebebis saagentos
direqtoria.
me: batono qerum, evrokomisiam gamoacxada
direqtiva, romelic evrokavSiris wevr saxelmwifoebSi
krZalavs diskriminacias nebismier
niadagze, riTac moqalaqeebis diskriminaciisgan
dacvas dasaqmebis sferos miRma afarTovebs.
riT axsniT, rom aqamde ar arsebobda aseTi saxis
direqtiva, rom adamianis dacva nebismieri saxis
diskriminaciisagan Tanabrad yofiliyo SesaZlebeli?
mq: diskriminaciisgan dacvis zogadi saWiroeba
amsterdamis xelSekrulebis 13-e muxlis Sesabamisad
warmoiSva. am saWiroebebis Semdgom
etapze formulireba iyo 2 direqtivis miReba
rasisa da dasaqmebis Sesaxeb. geebisa da lesboselebis
dacva _ zogadi direqtivebiT ar
xdeba, mxolod dasaqmebis Taobaze miRebul
direqtiviTaa gansazRvruli. nebismieri sxva
sakiTxSi, romelic dasaqmebis sferos scildeba,
am direqtivis gamoyeneba SeuZlebelia. swored
am xarvezis gasasworeblad iqna gamocxadebuli
axali direqtiva. axali direqtiva diskriminaciis
yvela sferos moicavs da amiT sxvadasxva
sferoebs Soris arsebul ucnaur ierarqiulobas
usmevs wertils.
me: am direqtivis komisiis mier gamocxadebamde
debatebi mimdinareobda ori sxvadasxva
variantis Taobaze. erT-erT maTgans pirobiTad
horizontalri direqtiva uwodes, vinaidan igi
interviu / INTERVIEW
interviu evrokavSiris fundamenturi
uflebebis saagentos direqtorTan
morten qerumTan
Interview with Morten Kjaerum, director of
the EU Fundamental Rights Agency
Mr Kjaerum was director of the Danish Institute for Human
Rights for 17 years. At the same time he was president
of the international network of national human rights organizations.
He also served on the UN Committee on Elimination
of Racial discrimination for six years. He is now director
of the EU Fundamental Rights Agency.
ME: Mr Kjaerum, the EC launched the directive to
prohibit discrimination in EU member states on all
grounds, thus advancing EU protection from discrimination
beyond employment. How would you comment
on the absence of these measures of protection
from discrimination on all grounds equally?
MK: In the EU, the general provision on discrimination
came with Article 13 of the Treaty of Amsterdam. These
provisions were further developed into the two directives
– about race and employment. If we look at the position
of gays and lesbians, their discrimination is not covered
in the general directive but only in the employment
directive. Everything beyond employment is not covered
by the existing regulations, so the new directive is an attempt
to bridge this gap. This directive covers all grounds
of discrimination by eliminating the strange type of hierarchy
between diff erent grounds.
ME: There was ongoing debate about the two
concurrent versions of the directive to be launched.
One was called a horizontal directive. It covered all
grounds of discrimination and the second one only
included disability.
MK: There was a clash between two the diff erent approaches.
The more traditional approach deals with all
types of discrimination such as gender identity or sexual
orientation and other grounds for discrimination separately.
In this case we do not see them linked. In contrast
with this old school approach, we have a new and prevailing
one that seeks to establish links between these
various grounds of discrimination. So this is the approach
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