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<strong>Selwyn</strong> <strong>Times</strong> Wednesday <strong>April</strong> <strong>28</strong> <strong>2021</strong><br />

6<br />

OUR PEOPLE – PHIL DEAN<br />

From the police frontline to centre stage<br />

Behind the razzle and<br />

dazzle of Chicago,<br />

currently staging at<br />

Rolleston, is director<br />

Phil Dean. The former<br />

senior policeman is<br />

devoting himself to<br />

theatre after leaving<br />

the force. He spoke to<br />

Susan Sandys about<br />

taking a leap of faith<br />

and balancing his yin<br />

with his yang<br />

Where did your journey with<br />

theatre begin?<br />

When I was 15 years old and<br />

I was at Whangarei Boys High<br />

School up in Northland. The<br />

girls’ high was on the other side<br />

of the road. The only time we<br />

came together was when we<br />

did productions. I enjoyed the<br />

fact that we were mingling with<br />

the girls. My very first show<br />

was Godspell, and I was lucky<br />

enough to be one of the leads.<br />

I think from that moment on,<br />

that was when I got the bug.<br />

(The director) would never have<br />

known that he was having such<br />

a profound effect on that little<br />

pain-in-the-ass kid.<br />

Can you tell me about your<br />

policing career?<br />

I joined the police when I was<br />

26. I was a frontline officer, an<br />

investigator, a road policing<br />

manager. In the last 10 years I<br />

took on management roles –<br />

community services manager in<br />

Christchurch, Canterbury police<br />

highway patrol manager and the<br />

road policing manager. My very<br />

last job was as the Ashburton<br />

sub-area commander. All the<br />

way along, while I was doing<br />

that, balancing my yin with my<br />

yang, if you like, I was doing<br />

theatre as well. It sort of offered<br />

me a completely different<br />

community to work in.<br />

Why did you leave the police?<br />

I had done 25 years (by the<br />

time I left in 2019). I was in a<br />

really good place, I was working<br />

with a positive community (in<br />

Ashburton). I didn’t want to<br />

leave when I was in a job I wasn’t<br />

enjoying. It had taken me five<br />

years to make the decision to<br />

leave. I loved the police, but I<br />

SERVICE:<br />

Waitering is<br />

Phil Dean’s<br />

favourite<br />

task at the<br />

cafe he runs<br />

with fiancee<br />

Courtney<br />

Hyde.<br />

PHOTO:<br />

GEOFF<br />

SLOAN<br />

knew that I couldn’t do it for the<br />

rest of my life.<br />

Why couldn’t you do it for the<br />

rest of your life?<br />

I don’t want to say it’s a<br />

young person’s job, but it is a<br />

young person’s job. I wanted to<br />

follow the positive parts of my<br />

passionate dreams of my life, and<br />

I wanted to be more creative, and<br />

to be more artistic. So I wanted<br />

to take what was my hobby<br />

and make that the main thing<br />

I did. I always imagined what I<br />

would do is get a part-time job<br />

somewhere, just so I could pay<br />

the bills, and I would volunteer<br />

all my time to the performing<br />

arts.<br />

What I did know is that the<br />

right thing would find me,<br />

and it absolutely did. The cafe<br />

(Robert Harris at Rolleston)<br />

came along. We (myself and<br />

fiancee Courtney Hyde who own<br />

and operate the cafe) have had<br />

two cabarets here in the last six<br />

months. We rehearse here too.<br />

(So there is) the ability for the<br />

money-making side of my life to<br />

support the other side.<br />

The message I have given to<br />

my colleagues in the police is<br />

– don’t try and negotiate your<br />

way out of the police, take a leap<br />

of faith, because the thing that<br />

you discover is that you take<br />

yourself with you. All the good<br />

aspects of who you are, and all<br />

the things that make you a good<br />

police officer, are the same things<br />

that will make you good at other<br />

things.<br />

You and Courtney founded<br />

CentreStage Rolleston about<br />

four years ago?<br />

Yes, us and a group of our<br />

friends. We were all involved in<br />

theatre around Christchurch and<br />

around <strong>Selwyn</strong>, but we all lived<br />

in Rolleston. We could see that<br />

there was a gap here.<br />

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