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<strong>Selwyn</strong> <strong>Times</strong> Wednesday <strong>April</strong> <strong>28</strong> <strong>2021</strong><br />
6<br />
OUR PEOPLE – PHIL DEAN<br />
From the police frontline to centre stage<br />
Behind the razzle and<br />
dazzle of Chicago,<br />
currently staging at<br />
Rolleston, is director<br />
Phil Dean. The former<br />
senior policeman is<br />
devoting himself to<br />
theatre after leaving<br />
the force. He spoke to<br />
Susan Sandys about<br />
taking a leap of faith<br />
and balancing his yin<br />
with his yang<br />
Where did your journey with<br />
theatre begin?<br />
When I was 15 years old and<br />
I was at Whangarei Boys High<br />
School up in Northland. The<br />
girls’ high was on the other side<br />
of the road. The only time we<br />
came together was when we<br />
did productions. I enjoyed the<br />
fact that we were mingling with<br />
the girls. My very first show<br />
was Godspell, and I was lucky<br />
enough to be one of the leads.<br />
I think from that moment on,<br />
that was when I got the bug.<br />
(The director) would never have<br />
known that he was having such<br />
a profound effect on that little<br />
pain-in-the-ass kid.<br />
Can you tell me about your<br />
policing career?<br />
I joined the police when I was<br />
26. I was a frontline officer, an<br />
investigator, a road policing<br />
manager. In the last 10 years I<br />
took on management roles –<br />
community services manager in<br />
Christchurch, Canterbury police<br />
highway patrol manager and the<br />
road policing manager. My very<br />
last job was as the Ashburton<br />
sub-area commander. All the<br />
way along, while I was doing<br />
that, balancing my yin with my<br />
yang, if you like, I was doing<br />
theatre as well. It sort of offered<br />
me a completely different<br />
community to work in.<br />
Why did you leave the police?<br />
I had done 25 years (by the<br />
time I left in 2019). I was in a<br />
really good place, I was working<br />
with a positive community (in<br />
Ashburton). I didn’t want to<br />
leave when I was in a job I wasn’t<br />
enjoying. It had taken me five<br />
years to make the decision to<br />
leave. I loved the police, but I<br />
SERVICE:<br />
Waitering is<br />
Phil Dean’s<br />
favourite<br />
task at the<br />
cafe he runs<br />
with fiancee<br />
Courtney<br />
Hyde.<br />
PHOTO:<br />
GEOFF<br />
SLOAN<br />
knew that I couldn’t do it for the<br />
rest of my life.<br />
Why couldn’t you do it for the<br />
rest of your life?<br />
I don’t want to say it’s a<br />
young person’s job, but it is a<br />
young person’s job. I wanted to<br />
follow the positive parts of my<br />
passionate dreams of my life, and<br />
I wanted to be more creative, and<br />
to be more artistic. So I wanted<br />
to take what was my hobby<br />
and make that the main thing<br />
I did. I always imagined what I<br />
would do is get a part-time job<br />
somewhere, just so I could pay<br />
the bills, and I would volunteer<br />
all my time to the performing<br />
arts.<br />
What I did know is that the<br />
right thing would find me,<br />
and it absolutely did. The cafe<br />
(Robert Harris at Rolleston)<br />
came along. We (myself and<br />
fiancee Courtney Hyde who own<br />
and operate the cafe) have had<br />
two cabarets here in the last six<br />
months. We rehearse here too.<br />
(So there is) the ability for the<br />
money-making side of my life to<br />
support the other side.<br />
The message I have given to<br />
my colleagues in the police is<br />
– don’t try and negotiate your<br />
way out of the police, take a leap<br />
of faith, because the thing that<br />
you discover is that you take<br />
yourself with you. All the good<br />
aspects of who you are, and all<br />
the things that make you a good<br />
police officer, are the same things<br />
that will make you good at other<br />
things.<br />
You and Courtney founded<br />
CentreStage Rolleston about<br />
four years ago?<br />
Yes, us and a group of our<br />
friends. We were all involved in<br />
theatre around Christchurch and<br />
around <strong>Selwyn</strong>, but we all lived<br />
in Rolleston. We could see that<br />
there was a gap here.<br />
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