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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N5 5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02<br />
02.201<br />
.2018 fasi 2 lari<br />
ledi tukvaZe: `saxelmwifos<br />
mxridan agresiis Semdeg<br />
bakuraZem cixeSi<br />
TviTmkvleloba scada~ gv. 10<br />
skandali<br />
iaraRiT<br />
vaWroba<br />
Tu qarvis<br />
biznesi?!<br />
gv. 2<br />
`qarTuli<br />
ocneba~ _ es aris<br />
Senelebuli<br />
moqmedebis<br />
proeqti, rom es<br />
qveyana<br />
sabolood<br />
daubrundes<br />
ruseTis<br />
orbitas~ 12<br />
farosanas<br />
skandalis<br />
gamo susSi<br />
gamoZieba<br />
daiwyo<br />
gv. 4<br />
1921 wlis<br />
Tebervali:<br />
wiTeli laqa<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
istoriaSi<br />
14<br />
xelisuflebam<br />
`TV pirvelisTvis~<br />
brZola waago<br />
gv. 8<br />
xelisuflebis<br />
rRveva<br />
lagodexidan<br />
daiwyo<br />
32<br />
skandaluri<br />
nusxa _ tyvia<br />
xorcSi,<br />
sasmel<br />
wyalsa da<br />
sxva<br />
sursaTSi gv. 6<br />
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iaraRiT vaWroba<br />
2018 wlis 7 Tebervals jerjer-<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
obiT daudgeneli piri sacxovr-<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
ebel saxlSi Tavs daesxa „mxedrionis”<br />
erT-erT liders, dodo gug-<br />
eSaSvils da mis Svils. Tavdamsxmelis tyviam imsxverpla dodo<br />
gugeSaSvilis vaJi, nodar gugeSaSvili, deda mZime Wrilobe-<br />
biT RuduSauris saxelobis klinikaSi moaTavses da eqimebma<br />
misi gadarCena SeZles.<br />
versiebi, romlebic dodo<br />
gugeSaSvilze Tavdasxmis dros<br />
gavrcelda, ZiriTadad, saavadmyofoSi<br />
misulma misive megobrebma<br />
gaaJReres.<br />
yvelasTvis moulodnelad,<br />
RuduSauris klinikis ezoSi veteranTa<br />
saxelmwifo samsaxuris<br />
yofili ufrosi, irakli SixiaSvili<br />
gamoCnda da sakmaod xmauriani<br />
gancxadebebic gaakeTa, _<br />
saxelmwifo roca xalxs ver icavs,<br />
xalxi iZulebuli xdeba, Tavi<br />
Tavad daicvaso. SixiaSvilis am<br />
gancxadebam bevrs netarxsenebuli<br />
„mxedrionis” dro gaaxsena,<br />
roca qalaqSi swored moqalaqeebis<br />
dacvis motiviT SeiaraRebuli<br />
bandebi daTareSobdnen da<br />
xalxs Tavad Zarcvavdnen.<br />
swored dodo gugeSaSvilis<br />
megobrebis mxridan gaJRerda<br />
informacia imis Taobaze, rom<br />
Tavdasxma SesaZloa, ukrainaSi<br />
Zvirfasi qvebis, kerZod, qarvis<br />
bizness ukavSirdebodes. mogvianebiT,<br />
biznesis nusxa gaizarda<br />
da mas xorcisa da sxva produqtebis<br />
biznesic daemata.<br />
gasuli kviris orSabaTs saxelisuflebo<br />
mediam dodo guge-<br />
SaSvilis saqmeSi kidev erTi piri,<br />
yofili mxedrioneli, daTo Sonia<br />
gamoaCina, magram araferi<br />
uTqvams im or veteranze, romel-<br />
Ta gvarebic dodo gugeSaSvilis<br />
CvenebaSi figurirebda.<br />
sabolood, versia ase Camoyalibda:<br />
dodo gugeSaSvils, daaxloebiT,<br />
aTi Tvis win daukavSirda<br />
ucnobi piri, romelic mas saxeliT<br />
zura gaecno da rekomendatorad<br />
veteranTa saxelmwifo<br />
samsaxuris maRalCinosani malxaz<br />
Tofuria daasaxela. amis Semdeg<br />
isini erTmaneTs ramdenjerme<br />
Sexvdnen, maT Soris, im binaSi,<br />
sadac dodo gugeSaSvili cxovrobda.<br />
saubari midioda Zvirfasi<br />
qvebis biznesze. mogvianebiT,<br />
dodo gugeSaSvilma ganmarta,<br />
rom mis axal nacnobs kievSi<br />
legalurad unda SeeZina qarvis<br />
ramdenime nakeToba da gzaSi aeroportamde<br />
yofil mxedrionels,<br />
daTo Selias unda miecilebina.<br />
nacnobobidan aTi Tvis Tavze<br />
vinme zura dodo gugeSaSvilis<br />
binaSi mivida, iaraRiT ramdenjerme<br />
gaisrola, Svili adgilze<br />
mokla da deda sasikvdilod<br />
daWra. motivi arc politikuria,<br />
arc Zveli angariSsworebaa da<br />
arc pirovnuli SurisZieba.<br />
cxadia, gamoZieba am da sxva<br />
versiebze muSaobs da imedia,<br />
saqmec gaixsneba, magram, am etapze,<br />
risi Tqmac SeiZleba, rTuli<br />
dasajerebelia, dodo guge-<br />
SaSvils aTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />
ar moeZebna realuri informacia<br />
pirze, romelic masTan malxaz<br />
Tofurias saxeliT mivida da<br />
biznesis gakeTebas sTavazobda,<br />
ar icoda misi gvari da warmomavloba.<br />
rac Seexeba qarvis bizness,<br />
„qronika+”-ma ukrainaSi<br />
gaarkvia, sad da rogor moipoveba<br />
kontrabanduli qarva da vin<br />
arian is pirebi, romlebic am biznesiT<br />
saqmianoben?<br />
jer kidev 30 wlis winaT qarvis<br />
minarevebiT ukrainaSi Rumels<br />
aTbobdnen. daaxloebiT sami<br />
wlis winaT Zvirfasi qvis fasma<br />
msoflio bazarze astronomiul<br />
cifrs miaRwia, _ erTi gramis<br />
fasi 4 evro gaxda, swored amitom<br />
qarvis kontrabandis masStabebic<br />
arnaxulad gaizarda.<br />
adgils, sadac ukrainaSi qarva<br />
moipoveba, rovno hqvia (olqia).<br />
ramdenime wlis winaT iq mxolod<br />
tyeebi iyo, qarvis fasebis<br />
zrdasTan erTad adgilobrivma<br />
mosaxleobam tyis masivi gaCexa<br />
da qarvis kontrabanduli mopoveba<br />
daiwyo. im xalxisTvis, vinc<br />
qarvas moipovebs, policia Semakavebeli<br />
faqtori araa. erTxans<br />
rovnos olqSi reidebi da<br />
specoperaciebi tardeboda, magram<br />
uSedegod, _ adgilobrivebi<br />
winaaRmdegobasac uwevdnen da<br />
kontrabandul saqmianobasac<br />
agrZelebdnen. qarvis fasi Zvirfasi<br />
qvis moculobazea damokidebuli,<br />
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iwyeba da gansakuTrebiT Zvirfasis<br />
fasi 25 000 dolarsac aRwevs.<br />
vin yidulobs mopovebul kontrabandas?<br />
oficialurad, arc<br />
aravin, magram rogorc „qronika+”-is<br />
wyaro ambobs, kontrabanduli<br />
tvirTis ZiriTadi nawili<br />
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Tu qarvis biznesi?!<br />
dodo gugeSaSvili<br />
malxaz Tofuria<br />
irakli SixiaSvili<br />
poloneTSi gadadis, aseve nawili<br />
CineTSic midis da erTi gramis<br />
saSualo fasi 4 evroa.<br />
rovnos olqSi qarvis biznesi<br />
kargad awyobili sqemaa, qvis recxvis<br />
procesSi mxolod adgilobrivi<br />
mosaxleobaa CarTuli da,<br />
faqtobrivad, ucxo piris Sesvla<br />
iq gamoricxulia. policias<br />
kontrabandis SeCerebis aranairi<br />
meqanizmi ar gaaCnia, amitomac qarvis<br />
biznesidan wils sjerdeba,<br />
rac erTi cvlidan, daaxloebiT,<br />
20 000 dolaria, aseve qrTami<br />
midis kievSi sam CinovnikTan da,<br />
Sesabamisad, yvela mxare, ubralod,<br />
kmayofilia.<br />
Cveni wyaro ambobs, rom, faqtobrivad,<br />
gamoricxulia qarvis<br />
kontrabandaSi vinme sxva piris<br />
CarTva da am awyobili sqemis areva.<br />
kriminalur avtoritetebs,<br />
„kanonier qurdebs”, yofil mxedrionelebs<br />
da a. S. aranairi gavlena<br />
rovnos olqSi ar gaaCniaT<br />
da miT umetes, gamoricxulia,<br />
rom kontrabandis sqemaSi qarTveli<br />
CaerTos. amave wyaros cnobiT,<br />
kontrabanduli qarva mxolod<br />
poloneTsa da CineTSi gadis,<br />
rac Seexeba TurqeTs, am qveyana-<br />
Si qarvis bazari saerTod ar<br />
arsebobs.<br />
Cvens konfidencialur wyaros<br />
aseve vkiTxeT, SesaZlebelia Tu<br />
ara qarvis nakeTobebis an xatebis<br />
kievSi legalurad SeZena? man<br />
dagvidastura, rom kievSi am nakeTobebis<br />
SeZena Tavisuflad<br />
SeiZleba da aranairi specialuri<br />
eskorti aeroportamde am<br />
nivTebis misatanad aucilebeli<br />
ar aris.<br />
Cveni wyaros monaTxrobis<br />
mixedviT, faqtobrivad, ararealuri<br />
xdeba qarvis biznesSi<br />
ucxo pirebis, maT Soris, qarTvelebisa<br />
da yofili mxedrionelebis<br />
monawileoba.<br />
bevrad ufro skandaluria<br />
„qronika+~-is meore wyaro, romelic<br />
yvelaze realurad sul<br />
sxva, konkretulad ki ara qarvis,<br />
aramed iaraRiT vaWrobis sqemis<br />
versias ganixilavs.<br />
saqarTvelosa da TviTgamocxadebuli<br />
afxazeTis sazRvari<br />
rom, faqtobrivad, ukontroloa,<br />
amaze aravin daobs, es zoli yofil<br />
mxedrionel daTo Sengelias<br />
aqvs Cabarebuli da kontrabanduli<br />
sigaretis, jarTis, iaraRis,<br />
manqanebisa da a. S. „kriSad”<br />
samegrelos gubernatori vaxtan<br />
Sonia saxeldeba, romelic eqspremier<br />
irakli RaribaSvilis simamris,<br />
Tamaz TamazaSvilis daniSnulia.<br />
moqmedma premierma, miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom ramdenjerme<br />
daapira Tanamdebobidan misi<br />
gadayeneba, dReis mdgomareobiT,<br />
Sonia isev Tanamdebobazea.<br />
mogexsenebaT, aseve RaribaSvilis<br />
axlo garemocvis wevria veteranTa<br />
saxelmwifo samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi irakli SixiaSvili, romelic<br />
zviad janyaraSvilis daxmarebiT<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobidan”<br />
gadaportirda da, faqtobrivad,<br />
Tbilisis sakrebulos<br />
„nacionaluri” umravlesoba<br />
daSala. SixiaSvilis saxels araerTi<br />
skandali daukavSirda, sabolood<br />
ki is Tanamdebobidan<br />
gadaayenes, erTxans qveynidan<br />
wasulic iyo, magram, rogorc<br />
gairkva, saqarTveloSi dabrunda,<br />
rac Seexeba malxaz Tofurias,<br />
is, ubralod, sus-is xelisbiWia<br />
da rac ar unda maginos amis gamo<br />
feisbuqze, mainc davwer, rom<br />
iaffasian Worikanas, romelic<br />
gogaSvilis davalebiT ara marto<br />
me, aramed Cems ojaxsac saSinel<br />
Worebs ugorebda, piradad<br />
CemTvis araferi aqvs saerTo sam-<br />
SoblosTan da jariskacTan.<br />
„qronika+~-is wyaro „mxedrionis”<br />
yofil liderze Tavdasxmas<br />
ara qarvis bizness, aramed<br />
iaraRiT vaWrobis SesaZlo sqemas<br />
ukavSirebs.<br />
dodo gugeSaSvili garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi ukraina-<br />
Si, atos zonaSi muSaobda instruqtorad,<br />
Tumca sxva qarTvelebisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT, man sabr-<br />
Zolo moqmedebebis zona maleve<br />
datova, mizezebze arc Tavad<br />
saubrobs da arc misi megobari<br />
meocnebeebi imCneven am epizods.<br />
ukrainaSi sabrZolo moqmedebebis<br />
zonaSi iaraRiT vaWroba Cveulebrivi<br />
ambavia. rogor wesi,<br />
ruseTi separatistebs mudmivad<br />
amaragebs iaraRiT, isini ki maT<br />
nawils yidian, romelsac sabrZolo<br />
moqmedebebis dros Camoweren<br />
xolme.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro erT-erT<br />
versiad swored iaraRiT vaWrobis<br />
axali sqemis awyobas ganixilavs.<br />
ar gamoricxavs, rom vinme<br />
zura, romlis vinaobas aravin<br />
amxels, arc aRweriloba axsendebaT,<br />
rom policiam fotoroboti<br />
Seqmnas, arc gvari icis vinmem da<br />
arc misi warmomavloba, swored<br />
iaraRiT vaWrobis sqemas alagebda<br />
da am derefnad saqarTvelosac<br />
ganixilavda, an ukrainis<br />
gavliT, an, sulac, ukrainidan<br />
pirdapir TurqeTSi, qarva ki pirobiTi<br />
saxeli iyo da arapirdapiri<br />
mniSvnelobiT Zvirfasi qvis<br />
dasaxeleba.<br />
ratom moxda dodo gugeSaSvilze<br />
Tavdasxma? am kiTxvaze<br />
„qronika+”-is konfidencialuri<br />
wyaro mxolod versiaze saubrobs,<br />
_ oridan erTia: an saqar-<br />
TveloSi myofma pirebma fulSi<br />
viRac gadaagdes da Tavdasxma<br />
swored am faqtis gamo SurisZiebis<br />
mizniT moxda, an rusulma<br />
specsamsaxurebma droze adre Seityves<br />
iaraRiT vaWrobis axali<br />
sqemis Sesaxeb da dodo gugeSaSvilze<br />
Tavdasxma swored am „kanalis”<br />
sabolood Casaketad moxda,<br />
radgan rusuli specsamsaxurebi<br />
Tavad vaWroben iaraRiT,<br />
maT Soris, siriaSic.<br />
bunebrivia, daskvnebis gamosatanad<br />
Cveni wyaros mier mowodebuli<br />
informacia Zalian mwiria,<br />
saubaria mxolod versiebze da<br />
ara konkretul dasabuTebul<br />
faqtebze, magram faqti erTia _<br />
vinme zura imdenad swrafad da<br />
SeumCnevlad miimala SemTxvevis<br />
adgilidan, imdenad profesionalurad<br />
moqmedebda Tavdasxmis<br />
dros, saqme gamocdil qilerTan<br />
gvaqvs da ara moulodnelad<br />
gamoCenil SurismaZiebelTan.<br />
gavrcelebuli informaciiT,<br />
Tavdamsxmelma qveyana mkvlelobis<br />
dResve datova. Tu is rusebis<br />
mokavSirea, amis gakeTebas araoficialuri<br />
gziT an cxinvalis,<br />
anac afxazeTis gavliT SeZlebda.<br />
ra versiebze muSaobs gamoZieba,<br />
jerjerobiT, ucnobia. rogorc<br />
Ss ministris moadgilem Jurnalistebs<br />
komentarSi uTxra,<br />
yvela versia ganixileba, maT Soris,<br />
presaSi gamoqveynebuli masalebic.<br />
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goCa mircxulava<br />
saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis samsaxuris antikorufciuli de-<br />
partamenti gasul wels farosanasTan brZolis RonisZiebebs<br />
swavlobs, anu mimdinareobs informaciebis Segroveba da Tu<br />
saqmeSi sisxlis samarTlis danaSaulis niSnebi gamoikveTa, saqmec<br />
aRiZvreba. ra Tqma unda, madlobis meti araferi iTqmis batoni<br />
giorgi liluaSvilisa da antikorufciuli samsaxuris mimarT.<br />
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farosanas<br />
skandalis gamo<br />
susSi gamoZieba<br />
daiwyo<br />
magram...<br />
yovelTvis es „magram” uSlis<br />
saqmes xels. davijero, rom amis<br />
Sesaxeb informacia ar moepovebaT<br />
„saqmeSi” myof pirebs? diax, yvelaferi<br />
kargad ician, magram mimdinare<br />
wels farosanis winaaRmdeg<br />
brZolis RonisZiebebisTvis gamoyofili<br />
50 milioni lari imdenad<br />
msuye lukmad eCvenebaT, rom maT<br />
Tavxedobas sazRvari ar aqvs. rogorc<br />
akademikosma paata koRuaSvilma<br />
erT-erT eTerSi ganacxada,<br />
„kbilebi ukawkawebT”.<br />
da...<br />
imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom akademikosebma<br />
paata koRuaSvilma da<br />
arCil WiraqaZem antikorufciul<br />
samsaxurs konkretuli masalebi<br />
miawodes, xolo me aSkara korufciuli<br />
niSnebis Semcveli faqtobrivi<br />
masalebic gadaveci, romlis<br />
erT nawilze telekompania iberiaSi<br />
da gazeT „qronika+”-Si aRvni-<br />
Sne, ar ganvmeordebi da miT ufro,<br />
axal faqtebze garkveuli drois<br />
ganmavlobaSi vrclad ar daviwyeb<br />
saubars. cxadze ucxadesia, rom es<br />
50 milioni vaiCinovnikebisa da saxelmwifo<br />
moxeleebisTvis imdenad<br />
madisaRmZvrelia, rom veranairad<br />
erevian sakuTar vnebebs.<br />
axla erTi metad mniSvnelovani<br />
faqtis Sesaxeb: gasuli wlis dekembris<br />
meore dekadaSi xelisuflebasTan<br />
daaxloebul pirs calkeul<br />
faqtebsa da axali Sesawamli<br />
nivTierebis SeZenis saqmeSi arsebul<br />
mavneblobaze vesaubre. ramdenadac<br />
vici, faqtebis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos<br />
premier-ministr, baton<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvils acnobes. gaiTvaliswineT<br />
_ es is periodia,<br />
rodesac parlamenti mTavrobis-<br />
Tvis ndobis gamosacxadeblad emzadeba<br />
da me paralelurad Tavs<br />
vikaveb sajaro gancxadebebisgan,<br />
raTa ukuRmarTad tvinmowyobilma<br />
Cinosnebma Tu „piarSikebma” es<br />
Tema politikas ar daukavSiron.<br />
ramdenime dReSi pasuxs viReb,<br />
rom bifentrin Semcveli preparatis<br />
SesaZenad sursaTis erovnuli<br />
saagentos Sesyidvebis samsaxuris<br />
„bazris kvleva”, romelic<br />
mxolod ramdenime konkretul kompanias<br />
daegzavna (am kompaniebs,<br />
faqtobrivad, erTi damfuZnebeli<br />
hyavT) da sadac saubaria, rom „gamarjvebuls”<br />
myisierad miscemen<br />
saxsrebs (gasaTvaliswinebelia,<br />
`iciT, ra ar msurs? is, rom Tqvenganac ar<br />
movismino: `bodiSi~, `ar vicodi~, `vambobdi,<br />
magram ar mismendnen~, `me ra meqna?~ `me rigiTi<br />
deputati viyavi~ da a. S. es frazebi ar miiReba!<br />
da arc is, roca calkeuli politikuri Zalebi<br />
Seecdebian TemaSi CarTvas da Tqven, kidev, maT<br />
politikur angaJirebulobas daabralebT,<br />
problemaze ki Tvals daxuWavT~<br />
rom araugvianes 2017 wlis 22 dekembrisa,<br />
mimwodeblebs warmosadgeni<br />
eqnebaT saxelSekrulebo Rirebulebis<br />
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angariSsworebis sabanko dawesebulebis<br />
sabanko garantia, raTa<br />
mimdinare wels moxerxdes Sesabamisi<br />
saxsrebis mimwodebelTa angariSebze<br />
asaxva. amonaridi werilidan,<br />
_ avt), CaiSala.<br />
aRniSnulma personam madlobac<br />
ki gadamixada saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
azrovnebisTvis. ramdenime dReSi<br />
vigeb, rom 17 dekembers dasrulebuli<br />
bazris kvlevis Sedegebis<br />
safuZvelze, 19 dekembers SerCeul<br />
kompaniasTan xelSekruleba gaformda<br />
da mas Tanxac gadaericxa.<br />
aRniSnuls adasturebs sursa-<br />
Tis uvneblobis saagentos safinanso-ekonomikuri<br />
departamentis<br />
saxelmwifo Sesyidvebis sammarTvelos<br />
ufros geronti fruiZis 19<br />
dekembris werili _ xelSekruleba<br />
gaformda Sps „agronomTan” „insakaris”<br />
miwodebaze erTeulis<br />
RirebulebebiT: 5-litrian dafasoebaSi<br />
_ 31.07 lari; 1-litrian<br />
dafasoebaSi _ 31.56 lari. imis<br />
Sesaxeb, rom „insakaris” Taobaze<br />
aravis araferi smenia da mwarmoebeli<br />
induri kompania monacemebs<br />
ar asajaroebs, „qronika+”-Si vwerdi.<br />
axla ase davsvaT sakiTxi, _ radgan<br />
me eWvi ar mepareba im adamianis<br />
keTilsindisierebaSi, romelmac<br />
informacia momawoda, rom Sesyidvis<br />
procesi CaiSala, ra moxda realurad?<br />
im informaciis safuZvelze,<br />
romelic sakiTxSi Caxedulma pirebma<br />
momawodes, saqarTvelos premier-ministri<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvili<br />
misma mrCevelma daviT kirvaliZem<br />
(soflis meurneobis eqsministri)<br />
daarwmuna, rom yvelaferi rigze<br />
iyo da aba, me ra yuradRebis Rirsi<br />
unda vyofiliyavi? procesi<br />
swored im sqemis mixedviT gagr-<br />
Zelda, romelic, jer kidev, SevardnaZis<br />
periodidan mudmiv korufciul<br />
garigebebSi myofi kirvaliZis<br />
mofiqrebul-Sedgenilia<br />
(kirvaliZis klanze soflis meurneobis<br />
saministroSi sazogadoebas<br />
uaxloes momavalSi vacnobeb).<br />
zemoT motanili „magram” diaxac<br />
rom skepticizmia Cemi mxridan<br />
imasTan dakavSirebiT, sus-s axla<br />
Tvalis asaxvevad rom amuSaveben<br />
da mere aTqmevineben, „saqmeSi” danaSaulis<br />
niSnebi ar ariso. am varaudis<br />
uflebas maZlevs mimdinare<br />
wlis avantiura, romelic ganaxorciela<br />
Sps „meqanizatorma”, rogorc<br />
saxelmwifos warmomadgenelma<br />
da Semsyidvelma. dainteresebul<br />
pirebs SeuZliaT, amaSi TvalnaTliv<br />
darwmundnen Sesyidvebis<br />
saagentos saitze (gancxadebis nomeri<br />
GEO180000032, GEO180000031,<br />
GEO180000030, GEO180000029).<br />
diax, saqmes swavlobs antikorufciuli<br />
samsaxuri, Sps „meqnizators”<br />
ki procesi fexebze kidia.<br />
mxolod erTi magaliTi: 2018<br />
wlis 18 marts Sps „meqanizatori”<br />
eleqtronul Sesyidvas acxadebs<br />
35 cal Sesasxurebel danadgarze.<br />
14 Tebervals ikribeba Sesabamisi<br />
samuSao jgufi (oqmi 4), romelic<br />
gadawyvetilebas iRebs, rom radgan<br />
pirvel adgilze gasulma kompania<br />
„G-SERVISE”-m, „ratomRac”<br />
ver warmoadgina Sesabamisi dokumentebi,<br />
gamarjvebulia meore adgilze<br />
gasuli kompania „nobleqsi”,<br />
romelsac, jer kidev, 12 Tebervals<br />
daevala momwodebeli kompaniisgan<br />
proforma invosis wardgena.<br />
13 Tebervals Sesyidvebis saagentos<br />
saitze aitvirTa proforma<br />
invosi. TiTqos kanoni yvelaferSi<br />
daculia, magram es invosi momwodeblis<br />
mier gamowerilia 2018<br />
wlis 16 ianvars. zogadad, TiTqos,<br />
esec araferi, magram es rogor<br />
moxda, rom „nobleqsma” Sesyidvis<br />
gamocxadebamde ramdenime dRiT<br />
adre moaxerxa invosis miReba? rodis<br />
daiwyo molaparakebebi mimwodebelTan?<br />
ra Tqma unda, 18 ianvramde<br />
bevrad adre, anu ra icoda<br />
„nobleqsma” winaswar Sps „meqanizatoris”<br />
_ am SemTxvevaSi, saxelmwifos<br />
zraxvebis Sesaxeb?<br />
kidev ufro CaxlarTulia sakiTxi<br />
„pikapebis” Temaze. rogor<br />
apirebs „pikapebze” damontaJebuli<br />
Sesasxurebeli danadgariT simindis<br />
yanebis, Txilis plantaciebisa<br />
Tu sxva nargavebis Sewamvlas? gare<br />
perimetrze ivlian manqanebi? da<br />
ivlian ki? ise, amerikeli specialistebis<br />
rekomendaciiT Sewamvla<br />
Suagulidan unda daiwyos.<br />
calke Temaa „CarTuloba”, sainformacio<br />
centrebis Seqmna da<br />
amisTvis xarjebis gaweva im pirobebSi,<br />
rodesac gvyavs regionuli<br />
ganviTarebis saministro, samxareo<br />
administraciebi da TviTmmarTvelobebi,<br />
sadac dasaqmebulTa umetesobam<br />
dRemde ar icis sakuTari<br />
ufleba-movaleobebi. ratom ar<br />
viyenebT am resurss da ratom vxarjavT<br />
damatebiT saxsrebs? aqtivis<br />
dasasaqmeblad?<br />
kiTxvebi uamravia, magram skepticizmis<br />
miuxedavad, mainc davacadoT<br />
antikorufciul samsaxurs,<br />
romlis saqmianoba aSkaraa, rom didad<br />
ar anaRvlebs saxelmwifo uwyebebis<br />
derefnebSi „farosanis<br />
direqtorad” monaTlul premierministris<br />
mrCevel daviT kirvaliZes.<br />
da ise, ratom ar unda gaCndes<br />
kiTxva, _ adardebs ki es sakiTxi<br />
ara sajaro gancxadebebiT, aramed<br />
Sinaganad da politikuradac premier-ministrs?<br />
***<br />
adamianebs, miT ufro, Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebs, axasiaTebT moCvenebi-<br />
Ti amnezia, siyrue, sibrmave da sxva<br />
mravali ugvanoba, romelic, erTi<br />
SexedviT, „SeZenili senia”, Tumca<br />
Tu mecnierul da, gnebavT, moralur<br />
da zneobriv kategoriaSi<br />
ganvixilavT, namdvilad Tandayoli<br />
avadobaa, anu am personebis bunebrivi<br />
mdomareobaa. mere? rac<br />
Cven Tanamdebobebs Camocilebuli<br />
„pirebi” gvinaxavs... mTavaria, rom<br />
es lomgulebi Semdeg kravebi xdebian<br />
da sakuTar, imJamindel qcevebs<br />
aTasi sisuleliT amarTleben.<br />
4 N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.<br />
gagrZeleba me-19 gv.
giorgi nacaZe<br />
gavagrZeloT Tema...<br />
mas Semdeg, rac zaza (zurab)<br />
baqraZem gasul kviras „palitraniusis”<br />
eTerSi erT-erT gaxmaurebul,<br />
„buta robaqiZis saqmeze”<br />
Jurnalistebs aiRiarebi-<br />
Ti Cveneba misca, rom is am saqme-<br />
Si damnaSavea da man piradad miiRo<br />
monawileoba saqmis gayalbebaSi,<br />
redaqciaSi baqraZis warsulis<br />
Sesaxeb zarebi axlac ar<br />
wydeba. miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
robaqiZis saqmeSi uflebamosilebis<br />
gadametebaSi braldebuli<br />
sxva pirebi danaSauls ar<br />
aRiareben da maTi mTavari udanaSaulobis<br />
mtkicebuleba firia<br />
_ gasrolisa da iaraRis uwyveti<br />
kadri _ zaza baqraZes prokuraturasTan<br />
farul garigebaSi<br />
adanaSauleben.<br />
ise, gasakviric araferia, _<br />
Tu zaza (zurab) baqraZis cru<br />
Cvenebis safuZvelze generali<br />
kekua daakaves, ratom ar Sei-<br />
Zleba, rom robaqiZis saqmeSic<br />
is igivenairad moqmedebdes?<br />
zaza baqraZis Sesaxeb redaqcias,<br />
sxvadasxva skanalur informaciasTan<br />
erTad, kidev is<br />
uTxres, rom is saqarTvelodan<br />
2012 wels ara robaqiZis saqmis-<br />
Tvis braldebulad gamocxadebis<br />
gamo gaiqca, aramed sxva, ufro<br />
mZime danaSaulisTvis. Cveni<br />
wyaro ambobs, rom is Zaladobasa<br />
da gaupatiurebis mcdelobaSia<br />
braldebuli. am informaciis gadamowmeba<br />
Cven yvela mimarTulebiT<br />
vcadeT, Tumca gasagebia,<br />
rom sxvadasxva uwyeba axla<br />
„qronika+”-Tan am Temaze ar isa-<br />
gasuli kviris satelevizio sivrcis „gmirisa” da momnanie-<br />
blis, zaza (zurab) baqraZis saxeli da gvari araerT skandalur<br />
saqmeSi figurirebs. „qronika+” iwyebs masalebis moZiebas zaza<br />
baqraZesTan dakavSirebiT da amis mizezi araerTi faqtia. redaqciaSi<br />
ramdenime adamianis satelefono zari gaisma da sx-<br />
vadasxva sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi misi mowmeoba dasaxelda.<br />
maS, ase! _ vin aris zaza (zurab)<br />
baqraZe? is SevardnaZis<br />
drois policielia. is iyo e. w.<br />
doliZis policiis ustabaSi, Semdeg<br />
vakis, qalaqis krimpolis,<br />
dabolos aWaris sod-is sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosi. ramdenime<br />
moqalaqisadTvis narkotikuli<br />
saSualebis Cadebis gamo `sodis~<br />
ufrosma erekle koduam baqraZe<br />
sistemidan daiTxova. dRes mis<br />
angariSzea konkretuli sisxlis<br />
samarTlis saqmeebSi mravaljeradi<br />
mowmeoba da axla ukve<br />
braldebuladac yofna. Tumca<br />
sanam mis braldebulad sxvadasxva<br />
saqmeSi yofnis Sesaxeb mogiyvebiT,<br />
manamde mis mowmeobasTan<br />
dakavSirebul umZimes da<br />
dRemde burusiT mocul saqmeze<br />
getyviT.<br />
2007 wels saakaSvilis xelisuflebam<br />
uflebamosilebis gadametebisa<br />
da eqspertizis yalbi<br />
daskvnis miRebisTvis sxvisi<br />
waqezebis faqtze imdroindeli<br />
Sss-s geninspeqciis ufrosis moadgile,<br />
daviT kekua daakava.<br />
kekuas prokuratura edaveboda<br />
misi qalaqis policiis ufrosis<br />
moadgileobisas Cadenil dana-<br />
Sauls, rac dRemde gamouZiebelia<br />
da saqme dausrulebelia.<br />
Cveni informaciiT, swored zaza<br />
(zurab) baqraZis Cvenebis safuZvelze<br />
daakaves generali daviT<br />
kekua, romelmac winaswar patimrobaSi<br />
yofnisas, gamoZiebis<br />
informaciiT, sicocxle Tvi-<br />
TmkvlelobiT daasrula.<br />
„qronika+” daviT kekuas maSindel<br />
uflebadamcvel advokats,<br />
zurab kuxianiZes daukav-<br />
Sirda:<br />
_ batono zurab, „qronka+”-<br />
dan gawuxebT.<br />
_ diax, gismenT...<br />
_ batono zurab, redaqciaSi<br />
mogvawodes informacia, rom<br />
zaza (zurab) baqraZis cru Cve-<br />
nebis safuZvelze, 2007 wels<br />
daakaves generali daviT kekua,<br />
romelsac gamoZieba nika lomi-<br />
naZis, „ei-i-es Telasis” yofili<br />
finansuri menejeris, mkvlelobis<br />
sagamoZiebo saqmeSi mtkicebulebebis<br />
gayalbebas edaveboda.<br />
marTalia, rom gamoZie-<br />
bas baqraZem, Cvenebis saxiT,<br />
aseTi informacia dauwera?..<br />
_ didi bodiSi, ver gagcemT<br />
pasuxs... Cemi dacvis qveS myofis<br />
axloblebisgan Tanxmobis miRebis<br />
gareSe...<br />
amis mere advokatma, baton-<br />
ma zurabma, telefoni gaTiSa...<br />
rac Seexeba misi dacvis qveS<br />
myofs is, samwuxarod, gardacv-<br />
lilia...<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
vin aris<br />
mTavari<br />
`momnaniebeli~<br />
zaza (zurab)<br />
baqraZe?<br />
N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.<br />
ubrebs. Tan im fonze, roca zaza<br />
baqraZes dRes prokuratura<br />
„oqros mowmed” iyenebs.<br />
zaza (zurab) baqraZe yofili<br />
Tavdacvis ministris, irakli<br />
oqruaSvilis kadria. baqraZis<br />
Sesaxeb axla mxolod isaa cnobili,<br />
rom igi Zebnilia da gavrcelebuli<br />
informaciiT, xan belaruss,<br />
xan ki ukrainas afarebs<br />
Tavs. mokled, kaxa TargamaZis<br />
drois policielobidan oqruaSvilis<br />
kadrobamde zaza baqraZem<br />
didi gza gaiara.<br />
am informaciebis paralelurad<br />
„qronika+”-s isic uTxres,<br />
rom zaza baqraZe metsaxelad<br />
wuilaTia cnobili. Turme, mas<br />
es metsaxeli imitom Searqves,<br />
rom sul fulze wuoda da<br />
zmuoda... mavani ambobs, rom baqraZe<br />
qrTamis cnebis didi moyvarulia<br />
da kargad icis wamlisa<br />
da iaraRis udanaSaulo adamianebisTvis<br />
Cadebis sqemebic.<br />
principSi, iaraRisa da faqtebis<br />
falsifikacia baqraZem erTerT<br />
saqmeSi Tavad aRiara... magram<br />
ris sanacvlod, es jer ucnobia,<br />
Tumca aucileblad SevityobT,<br />
magram rodis?.. albaT,<br />
esec arcTu gvian moxdeba.<br />
„qronika+”-ma bolo dReebSi,<br />
rac zaza (zurab) baqraZe „palitraniusis”<br />
eTerSi gamoCnda, mis<br />
Sesaxeb informaciebsa da sxvadasxva<br />
saxis komentars sajaro<br />
sivrceSic gadaavlo Tvali. ker-<br />
Zod, socialur qsel „feisbuq-<br />
Si” konkretuli adamianebi werdnen,<br />
rom baqraZe moZaladea,<br />
mkvlelia, meqrTamea da a. S.<br />
sajaro sivrcis komentarebi<br />
Tavad ixileT.<br />
zaza (zurab) baqraZis Sesaxeb<br />
kidev erTi ambavia gavrcelebuli:<br />
rogorc amboben, igi didi<br />
gadamgdebi da TaRliTic aris.<br />
erT-erTi aseTi saqme biznesmen,<br />
vinme levan jafariZes ukavSirdeba,<br />
romelic baqraZem 70 000<br />
dolarSi aayirava...<br />
5
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
skandaluri nusxa _ tyvia xorcSi,<br />
„qronika+~ warmogidgenT skan-<br />
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
dalur nusxas, romelic strate-<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
giuli kvlevebisa da ganviTarebis<br />
centrma gamoiTxova. Tan dau-<br />
rTo Tavisi kvlevis masalebi da, saboloo jamSi, Cvens xelT<br />
aris saqarTvelos sasursaTo bazarze arsebuli sakmaod sav-<br />
alalo mdgomareoba.<br />
centris monacemebiT, tyviis<br />
gadametebuli raodenoba, ZiriTadad,<br />
saqonlis xorcsa da<br />
adgilobrivi warmoSobis sxva<br />
sursaTSia (maT Soris, sasmel<br />
wyalSi) aRmoCenili. am etapze,<br />
erTaderTi, rac SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
is gaxlavT, rom es, savaraudod,<br />
garemos tyviiT dabin-<br />
Zurebis Sedegia.<br />
Cven mier warmodgenil nusxaSi<br />
miTiTebuli SemTxvevebis<br />
umetesobasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
Setyobineba gaigzavna garemosa<br />
da bunebrivi resursebis dacvis<br />
saministroSi da saministrodan<br />
miRebuli pasuxis mixedviT,<br />
saministro Sesabamis municipalitetebSi<br />
niadagisa da zedapiruli<br />
wylis kvleva ganxorcielda.<br />
anu kvleva ki Caatares<br />
xsenebulma uwyebebma, magram<br />
dabinZurebis mizezebis Sesaxeb<br />
arc oqmi mosula da arc pasuxi<br />
dafiqsirebula,<br />
ratom ar gaiTvaliswines is<br />
aucilebloba, rom dabinZurebis<br />
yvela SemTxvevis mizezebi<br />
gamokvleuli unda iyos da Sesabamisi<br />
zomebi miRebuli mavne<br />
nivTierebebis zemoqmedebisgan<br />
mosaxleobis dasacavad.<br />
moviyvanT saxelmwifo uwyebebis<br />
im CamonaTvals, romelsac<br />
strategiuli kvlevebis centrma<br />
mimarTa.<br />
jandacvis saministro, romlisganac<br />
miRebuli pasuxis<br />
mixedviT igegmeba saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobis kvleva organizm-<br />
Si tyviis Semcvelobaze.<br />
dRemde igegmeba...<br />
finansTa saministros Semosavlebis<br />
samsaxuridan miRebuli<br />
pasuxis mixedviT, aracxoveluri<br />
warmoSobis sursaTis sasazRvro<br />
kontrolis valdebuleba<br />
dadgenilia normatiuli<br />
aqtiT, romelic 2016 wlis dekemberSi<br />
miiRes, magram srulad<br />
2018 wlis 1-li ianvridan Sedis<br />
ZalaSi. anu popularul enaze<br />
rom avxsnaT, Tveze cota metia,<br />
rac ZalaSi Sevida kanoni da Sedegebi,<br />
minimum, sami Tvis mere<br />
daideba.<br />
importirebuli mcenareuli<br />
sursaTis laboratoriuli Semowmeba<br />
sabaJo departamentis<br />
mier adamianis janmrTelobis-<br />
Tvis mavne nivTierebebze regularulad<br />
ar xdeba. Tumca, dResdReobiT,<br />
dadgenileba Sesa-<br />
Zleblobas iZleva, gansakuTrebul<br />
SemTxvevebSi, kontrolis<br />
procedurebi gavrceldes sursaTis<br />
zogierT konkretul saxeobaze,<br />
romlebic ganisazRvreba<br />
sursaTis erovnuli saagentosgan<br />
mowodebuli informaciiT.<br />
sursaTis erovnulma saagentom,<br />
Tavis mxriv, gamoacxada<br />
tedneri riskis jgufis qveynebidan<br />
importirebuli aracxoveluri<br />
warmoSobis sursaTis<br />
Semowmebis mizniT laboratoriuli<br />
kvlevebis Casatareblad.<br />
laboratoriis SerCevis Semdeg<br />
nimuSebis aReba daiwyeba.<br />
rac Seexeba garemos dacvis<br />
saministros: garemosa da bunebrivi<br />
resursebis dacvis saministrom<br />
(04.08.17-isa da 22.08.17-<br />
is werilebi) ar daadastura<br />
sursaTis erovnuli saagentos<br />
mier mowodebuli informacia,<br />
rom es ukanaskneli 2013-2017<br />
wlebSi saministros regularulad<br />
awvdida cnobebs sursaTSi<br />
tyviis gadametebuli odenobis<br />
aRmoCenis Sesaxeb. saministrom<br />
daasaxela mxolod 2015 wels<br />
gagzavnili erTi werili da<br />
2017 wlis ivlissa da agvisto-<br />
Si gagzavnili ori werili.<br />
2015 wels tyviis gadametebuli<br />
odenoba aRmoCnda ozurgeTis<br />
municipalitetis sofel lixaurSi<br />
erT-erTi sawarmos teritoriaze,<br />
romlis dajarimebis<br />
moTxovniTac garemosa da bunebrivi<br />
resursebis dacvis saministrom<br />
sasamarTlos mimarTa,<br />
magram es moTxovna ar dakmayofilda.<br />
2017 wels miRebul werilebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT ki saministros<br />
mier sakiTxebis Seswavla<br />
jer ar aris dasrulebuli.<br />
amis Semdeg, strategiuli<br />
kvlevebisa da ganviTarebis centrma<br />
sursaTis erovnuli saagentosgan<br />
gamoiTxova informacia<br />
tyviiT dabinZurebis im faqtebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT reagirebis<br />
Taobaze (21.07.17-isa da<br />
31.07.17-is werilebi), romlebzec<br />
saagento ar miuTiTebda,<br />
rom garemosa da bunebrivi resursebis<br />
dacvis saministros mimarTa.<br />
miRebuli pasuxebiT<br />
(27.07.17-isa da 22.08.17-is werilebi)<br />
irkveva, rom saagento<br />
Semoifargleboda mavnebeli<br />
sursaTis amoRebiT, ganadgurebiT<br />
da Sesabamisi mewarmeebis<br />
winaaRmdeg sanqciebis gatarebiT.<br />
igi ar axdenda sursaTis<br />
dabinZurebis mizezebis kvlevas,<br />
an importirebuli sursa-<br />
Tis SemTxvevaSi, Semosavlebis<br />
samsaxuris sabaJo departamentis,<br />
an sursaTis warmoSobis<br />
qveynis sursaTis uvneblobis<br />
samsaxuris informirebas. Sesabamisad,<br />
ar tardeboda prevenciuli<br />
RonisZiebebi momavalSi<br />
dabinZurebis Tavidan asacileblad.<br />
aseTi mimarTva sabaJo<br />
departamentisadmi mxolod<br />
2017 wels gaigzavna, mas Semdeg,<br />
rac sursaTis tyviiT dabin-<br />
Zurebas didi sazogadoebrivi<br />
aJiotaJi mohyva.<br />
ar dagvaviwydes, rom es aJiotaJi<br />
amerikidan wamovida. qalaq<br />
niu-iorkis janmrTelobisa<br />
da mentaluri higienis departamentisgan<br />
strategiuli kvlevebis<br />
centrma 2015-2017 wleb-<br />
Si saqarTvelodan niu-iorkSi<br />
Setanili sunelebis tyviis Semcvelobaze<br />
Semowmebis detaluri<br />
Sedegebi miiRo. swored maSin<br />
gairkva, rom Semowmda 78 nimuSi,<br />
aqedan sunelebisTvis saqarTveloSi<br />
moqmedi normis _<br />
5mg/kg gadaWarbeba gamovlinda<br />
37 nimuSSi (aRsaniSnavia, rom<br />
niu-iorkSi tyviis dasaSvebi norma<br />
sunelebisTvis aris 2mg/kg).<br />
gansakuTrebiT sagangaSoa is,<br />
rom bevr nimuSSi norma mravaljer<br />
aris gadaWarbebuli da<br />
tyviis Semcveloba 22 000 mg/kgmdec<br />
ki aRwevs. normis amden<br />
nimuSSi da aseTi didi odenobiT<br />
gadaWarbeba sursaTis erovnuli<br />
saagentos mier saqar-<br />
TveloSi 2012-2017 wlebSi Catarebuli<br />
nimuSebis Semowmebis<br />
Sedegad ar gamovlenila.<br />
rogorc Cans, niu-iorkSi Semowmebuli<br />
nimuSebis umravlesoba<br />
etiketirebuli ar iyo,<br />
amitom ucnobia im biznesoperatorebis<br />
vinaoba, romlebmac<br />
aRniSnuli mavne produqcia<br />
awarmoes.<br />
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sasmel wyalsa da sxva sursaTSi<br />
ase da amrigad, 2012-2017<br />
wlebSi tyviis Semcvelobaze<br />
sursaTis Semowmebis Sedegebze<br />
dakvirvebis magaliTze Cans,<br />
rom saqarTvelos Sesabamisi<br />
saxelmwifo struqturebi sa-<br />
Tanadod ver reagireben mavne<br />
sursaTis bazarze gavrcelebis<br />
aRsakveTad. dabinZurebis mizezebis<br />
kvleva da maT Sedegebze<br />
dayrdnobiT, prevenciuli zomebis<br />
gatareba mavne sursaTis<br />
bazarze gavrcelebis Tavidan<br />
asacileblad bevr SemTxvevaSi<br />
ar xdeba. sxvadasxva saxelmwifo<br />
uwyebis koordinacia am<br />
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT sustia.<br />
eqimebisa da eqspertebis ganmartebiT,<br />
tyviis maRali Semcvelobis<br />
mqone sakvebis miRebam<br />
SesaZloa, janmrTelobis<br />
problemebi gamoiwvios. am mxriv,<br />
bavSvebi yvelaze didi riskis<br />
qveS arian. tyviam SeiZleba<br />
warmoqmnas swavlasTan da qcevasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli problemebi.<br />
man SeiZleba gazardos<br />
sisxlis maRali wnevis, RviZlis<br />
daavadebis riski, daazianos<br />
nervuli sistema da warmoSvas<br />
reproduqciuli problemebi<br />
mozrdilebSi.<br />
orsulobis dros tyviam Sei-<br />
Zleba gavlena iqonios dedisa<br />
da Cvilis janmrTelobaze. rac<br />
ufro metia tyviis Semcveli<br />
produqtis miRebis maCvenebeli,<br />
miT ufro maRalia janmrTelobis<br />
problemebis gaCenis riski.<br />
rac mTavaria, tyviiT mowamluli<br />
mozrdilebisa da bavSvebis<br />
umetesoba arc avadmyofurad<br />
gamoiyureba da arc cudad<br />
grZnobs Tavs. mxolod sisxlis<br />
analiziT SeiZleba imis dadgena,<br />
adamiani mowamlulia Tu ara.<br />
strategiuli kvlevebis centris<br />
ganmartebiT, sursaTis<br />
erovnuli saagentos mier mowodebuli<br />
sajaro informacia<br />
absoluturad arasakmarisia imisTvis,<br />
rom momxmarebeli daculi<br />
iyos mavne sunelebis moxmarebisgan.<br />
rogorc wesi, ar<br />
aris miTiTebuli sakvlevi nimuSebis<br />
mwarmoebeli biznesoperatorebis<br />
saxelwodebebi da<br />
sxva monacemebi, rac mavne produqciis<br />
identifikacias gaxdis<br />
SesaZlebels. manam, sanam saagento<br />
mavne produqciis sarealizacio<br />
bazridan amoRebas uzrunvelyofs,<br />
aucilebelia, rom<br />
momxmareblebsa da mewarmeebs<br />
am produqciis Taobaze sakmarisi<br />
informacia miewodoT imisTvis,<br />
raTa movaWreebma ar dauSvan<br />
mavne produqtis gayidva,<br />
momxmareblebma Tavi Seikavon<br />
maTi SeZenisgan, an SeZenili<br />
produqciis moxmarebisgan, xolo<br />
im pirebma, romlebmac ukve<br />
moixmares aRniSnuli produqcia,<br />
mimarTon eqims.<br />
amgvarad, saagento ar asrulebs<br />
kanonis moTxovnas bazarze<br />
ganTavsebuli mavne sursaTis<br />
Taobaze mosaxleobis<br />
drouli informirebis Sesaxeb.<br />
unda gadaixedos saagentos<br />
mier ganxorcielebuli kontrolis<br />
Sedegebi, aseve, Sesabamis SemTxvevebSi,<br />
sxva qveynebis kompetenturi<br />
organoebis mier ganxorcielebuli<br />
kontrolis Sedegebis<br />
Sesaxeb informaciis gavrcelebis<br />
praqtika da igi SesabamisobaSi<br />
moiyvanos saqarTvelos<br />
kanonmdeblobis moTxovnebTan da<br />
moqalaqeTa interesebTan.<br />
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xelisuflebam `TV pirvelisTvis~<br />
ori vice-premieris mier dawye-<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
buli kampania mediis dalagebi-<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
sTvis warumatebeli aRmoCnda.<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam”, jer kidev,<br />
ver gaigo, rom XXI saukuneSi da socialuri mediis pirobebSi<br />
televiziebis SezRudva mxolod simboluri xasiaTisaa, Jur-<br />
nalistebis gaCumeba ki, saerTod, fantaziis sferoa.<br />
saqarTveloSi sareklamo bazari<br />
mwiria, Sesabamisad, SedarebiT<br />
patara televiziebisTvis<br />
reklamiT miRebuli Semosavali<br />
arsebobis erTaderTi<br />
wyaroa. pirdapiri zewolebisa<br />
da muqarebis paralelurad, xelisuflebam<br />
mediis winaaRmdeg<br />
axali berketi moigona, _ mauwyeblis<br />
Sesaxeb kanonSi axali<br />
cvlilebebiT, sazogadoebrivi<br />
mauwyebeli, romelic biujetidan<br />
50 milioni lariT finansdeba,<br />
damatebiT komerciuli<br />
reklamis ganTavsebis uflebas<br />
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rom isedac mwiri sareklamo<br />
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Semcirdeba.<br />
saqarTvelos prezidentma<br />
giorgi margvelaSvilma kanonproeqtSi<br />
Setanil cvlilebebs<br />
veto daado, prezidentis vetos<br />
daZlevam saparlamento umravlesobaSi<br />
azrTa sxvadasxvaoba<br />
gamoiwvia. rogorc Cans,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” politikur<br />
gundSi konsensuss am Temaze<br />
veRar miaRweven, prezidentis<br />
vetoc rom daZlion, xelaxal<br />
kenWisyraze, savaraudod, saWiro<br />
xmebis raodenobas veRar<br />
moagroveben.<br />
parlamentis Tavmjdomare<br />
irakli kobaxiZe mediasTan Sexvedraze<br />
didxans da daJinebiT<br />
amtkicebda, rom media cruobs,<br />
rom „kavkasiis” direqtori nino<br />
jangiraSvili matyuaraa. sinamdvileSi,<br />
saqarTveloSi sareklamo<br />
bazari, wina wlebTan<br />
SedarebiT, Semcirebis nacvlad<br />
izrdeba. ramdenad SeZlebs parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare irakli<br />
kobaxiZe saerTo CatiT umravlesobis<br />
deputatebis mobilizebas,<br />
es prezidentis vetos<br />
daZlevis dros gamoCndeba.<br />
kidev erTi informacia, romelic<br />
„qronika+~-s wina nomer-<br />
Si swored mediazewolebze gamoqveynebuli<br />
masalebis Semdeg<br />
miawodes, pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT<br />
isev medias ukavSirdeba,<br />
magram, amjerad, saubari biznesis<br />
wilebis ganawilebasa da<br />
wagebul sasamarTlo procesebzea.<br />
konkretulad, sigaretis<br />
sadistribucio kompaniebze,<br />
romelTagan ori swored televiziebTanaa<br />
dakavSirebuli.<br />
sul saqarTveloSi sigaretis<br />
distribuciaze Tormetamde<br />
kompania muSaobs:<br />
„filip moris saqarTvelo”;<br />
„omega 2";<br />
„jei Ti ai kavkasusi”;<br />
„elbrusi”;<br />
„best tobako”;<br />
„bi da ji”;<br />
„j.j. 2011";<br />
„meodistribucia”;<br />
„jidiai”;<br />
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„briTiS amerikan tobako”;<br />
„T&r distribuSeni”.<br />
sigaret „pirvelis” mwarmoebelma<br />
kompaniam saerTaSoriso<br />
kompania „filip moriss” misTvis<br />
dempingiT miyenebuli zaralis<br />
gamo uCivla. imave wels<br />
„omegam” sarCeli aRZra meore<br />
saerTaSoriso kompania „briTiS<br />
amerikan tobakos” winaaRmdeg<br />
igive moTxovniT.<br />
„qronika+~-is wyaros informaciiT,<br />
movlenebi ase ganvi-<br />
Tarda:<br />
pirveli instanciis sasamar-<br />
Tlom adgilobrivi mwarmoeblebis<br />
sarCeli daakmayofila,<br />
„filip morissa” da „briTiS amerikan<br />
tobakos” ramdenime aTeuli<br />
milioni dolaris kompensacia<br />
daakisra.<br />
„filip morisma” da „briTiS<br />
amerikan tobakom” pirveli instanciis<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba<br />
saapelacio sasamarTloSi<br />
gaasaCivres, romelmac<br />
2017 wlis ivnisSi orive saerTaSoriso<br />
kompanias kompensacia<br />
mouxsna.<br />
Cveni wyaros informaciiT,<br />
pirvel da meore instanciebs<br />
Soris movlenebi Semdegnairad<br />
vin moigo sigaretis<br />
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viTardeboda:<br />
„filip morisis” sigaretis<br />
distribucias axorcielebs Sps<br />
„jidiai”, romelic 2016 wlis 8<br />
ivlissaa registrirebuli, anu<br />
„filip morisis” winaaRmdeg sasamarTloSi<br />
sarCelis Setanidan<br />
ramdenime dReSi. aRniSnuli<br />
Sps-s 100%-iani wilis mflobeli<br />
aris kviprosze registrirebuli<br />
firma „dolnei konsultantsi”,<br />
romelic 2016<br />
wlis 21 ivniss daarsda.<br />
rafiel suramelaSvili<br />
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ebulia virjiniis kunZulebze<br />
da, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebelia<br />
imis identificireba, vin dgas<br />
mis ukan. faqtia, rom wilebis<br />
gadacema saeWvod emTxveva saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos mier miRebuli<br />
gadawyvetilebis TariRs,<br />
romlis mixedviTac „filip moriss”<br />
kompensaciis gadaxda daekisra,<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlom<br />
ki 2017 wlis ivnisis dasawyisSi,<br />
anu wilebis gadaformebis<br />
Semdeg, „filip moriss”<br />
mouxsna kompensacia da gaamarTla.<br />
rogorc Cveni wyaro ambobs,<br />
„pirvelis” mwarmoebels<br />
dava aRar gaugrZelebia<br />
„omegas” sarCeli „briTiS amerikan<br />
tobakos” winaaRmdeg pirveli<br />
instanciis sasamarTlom<br />
aseve daakmayofila, 2017 wlis<br />
Tbervlis dasawyisSi „briTiS<br />
Temur Wyonia<br />
amerikan tobakos” distributori<br />
saqarTveloSi aris „T&r<br />
distribuSeni”. ramdenime dRe-<br />
Si, mas mere, rac „briTiS amerikan<br />
tobakos” kompensaciis gadaxda<br />
daekisra „omegas” sasargeblod,<br />
„T&r distribuSenis”<br />
70%-iani wilis mflobelma Temur<br />
Wyoniam ganacxada, rom is<br />
molaparakebuli iyo „briTiS<br />
amerikan tobakosTan” da apirebda,<br />
nataxtarSi sigaretis<br />
qarxana aeSenebina, sadac „bri-<br />
TiS amerikan tobakos” sigarets<br />
awarmoebda. Wyonias<br />
TqmiT, is am biznesSi 10 milioni<br />
evros kerZo investiciis Cadebas<br />
apirebda.<br />
„Cven TbilisSi lojistikuri<br />
centri avaSeneT, romelic<br />
moemsaxureba azerbaijans, somxeTsa<br />
da saqarTvelos. sam milion<br />
evromde CavdeT. „koka-kolas”<br />
qarxana nataxtarSi minda<br />
gadavitano da imave teritoriaze<br />
avaSeno sigaretis qarxana.<br />
„britiS amerikan tobakos” kavkasiaSi<br />
qarxana ar gaaCnia da<br />
igi ukve awarmoebs molaparakebebs<br />
saerTaSoriso brendis wamomadgenlebTan<br />
mis gaxsnaze<br />
saqarTveloSi”, _ acxadebda<br />
Temur Wyonia.<br />
Tu Temur Wyonia Teberval-<br />
Si mzad iyo, 10 milioni evros<br />
investicia ganexorcielebina,<br />
moulodnelad, 2017 wlis 22<br />
maiss, „briTiS amerikan tobakos”<br />
distributor firmaSi<br />
Tavisi 70%-iani wili 200 000<br />
larad mihyida 30%-iani wilis<br />
mflobel rafiel suramelaSvils.<br />
rafiel suramelaSvili<br />
premier-ministr giorgi kvirikaSvilis<br />
yofili biznespartnioria.<br />
maT saerTo kompania,<br />
Sps „iber konsaltingi”, jer<br />
kidev, 2005 wlidan aqvT. es kompania<br />
dRemde registrirebulia<br />
reestrSi, magram, amis miuxedavad,<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvils<br />
is deklaraciaSi miTiTebuli<br />
ar hqonda. rafiel suramelaSvilis<br />
gvari figurirebs onlain<br />
sesxebis kompaniebSi da mogebul<br />
tenderebSi. araoficialuri<br />
informaciiT, „rafo” giorgi<br />
kvirikaSvilis „kasiria”.<br />
biznesmen Temur Wyonias mier<br />
70%-iani wilis sasacilod<br />
dabal fasad kvirikaSvilis megobrisTvis<br />
miyidvas oriod<br />
kviraSi moyva saapelacio sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba, romlis<br />
mixedviTac „briTiS amerikan<br />
tobakos” moexsna kompensacia.<br />
am etapze xelisuflebasa da<br />
medias Soris droebiT zavia.<br />
gazafxulze qarTuli politikuri<br />
elita samTavrobo cvlilebebisa<br />
da saprezidento<br />
arCevnebis kampaniis molodinSia.<br />
„filip morisis” winaaRmdeg<br />
pirveli instanciis sasamarTlom<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRo<br />
2017 wlis 9 Tebervals. kviprosuli<br />
firmis im monacemebSi,<br />
romelic „qronika+”-ma moipova,<br />
Cans, rom wilebis gadacemis<br />
Semdeg kviprosul firmaSi<br />
15%-ian wils flobs biZina gamcemliZe,<br />
xolo 85%-ians ki<br />
flobs ofSorSi registrirebuli<br />
kompania „kalabria investmenti”,<br />
romelic registrir-<br />
distribuciis omi?!<br />
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giorgi mefariZe<br />
„qronika+~ wina nomerSi ukve werda, rom quTaisSi, sasjela-<br />
Rsrulebis meore dawesebulebis win, yofil meuRleze Zaladoba-<br />
Si braldebul grigol bakuraZis axloblebma aqcia gamarTes.<br />
maTi TqmiT, bakuraZe unda ganTavisufldes, radgan is provoka-<br />
ciis msxverplia. cixesTan imyofeboda bakuraZis advokati ledi<br />
tukvaZe. misi TqmiT, patimari SimSilobs da TviTmkvlelobac sca-<br />
da. ledi tukvaZem grigol bakuraZe sapatimro dawesebulebaSi<br />
moinaxula. advokatma iusticiis ministr Tea wulukians brali<br />
dasdo da aRniSna, rom wulukianma bakuraZis winaaRmdeg araswori<br />
informacia gaavrcela. yofili meuRlis cemaSi braldebulis<br />
mosanaxuleblad dawesebulebaSi fsiqologic Sevida. gavr-<br />
celebuli informaciiT, grigol bakuraZem 3 ianvars yofil<br />
colsa da simamrs fizikuri Seuracxyofa miayena. 5 ianvars<br />
saqalaqo sasamarTlom bakuraZe giraoTi gaaTavisufla. daaxloebiT<br />
erTi Tvis win ki, quTaisis saapelacio sasamarTlos gadaw-<br />
yvetilebiT, bakuraZe sasamarTlo darbazSive daakaves.<br />
„qronika+~ grigol bakuraZis<br />
advokats, ledi tukvaZes esaubre-<br />
ba:<br />
_ Zalian mZime Temaa da bakuraZeebis<br />
Rirseuli ojaxi am Temaze<br />
ar saubrobda. es mcirewlovani<br />
SviliSvilis interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
gaakeTes. aqtiurad arc<br />
mediasTan urTierTobdnen. qarTuli<br />
mentalitetiTac, ojaxis Te-<br />
Treuli saqveynod ar unda gamoifinos.<br />
magram am procesma umarTavi xasiaTi<br />
SeiZina, bakuraZeebis misamarTiT<br />
televiziasa da presaSi mZime<br />
gancxadebebi keTdeboda; TiTqos<br />
isini fsiqotropul wamlebs iyenebdnen,<br />
moZaladeebi iyvnen da<br />
misT. am dros, grigol bakuraZis<br />
sivi maqvs: iyo araCveulebrivi Svili,<br />
mama, moswavle, studenti, dRes<br />
menejeria, saerTaSoriso klasis<br />
ganaTleba aqvs miRebuli, ucxour<br />
firmebSi, rogorc miwveuli eqspert-specialisti<br />
muSaobs. aseve,<br />
yvela am organizaciidan dadebiTi<br />
daxasiaTeba gvaqvs miRebuli.<br />
am kampaniis Sedegad, erT mSvenier<br />
dRes, uceb, es yvelaferi daingra.<br />
viRacam udanaSaulobis prezumpciis<br />
darRveviT gadawyvita,<br />
rom bakuraZe damnaSaved gamoecxadebina.<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas<br />
aravin daeloda da am yvelaferma<br />
iseTi xasiaTi SeiZina, rom<br />
vifiqre, SesaZlebelia, raRac jgufi<br />
arsebobdes, romelic am ojaxis<br />
winaaRmdeg binZur kampanias<br />
awarmoebs.<br />
aravis ainteresebda, ra moxda,<br />
Zaladobas hqonda adgili, TviTon<br />
es biWi iyo Zaladobis msxverpli,<br />
Tu saerTod ra xdeboda sinamdvileSi?<br />
realurad, grigol bakuraZis<br />
mkacrad dasja surdaT da es<br />
yvelafris winapiroba gaxda. meuRle<br />
pirdapir eubneboda (amas bakuraZe<br />
CvenebaSi aZlevs), rom Tu amas<br />
da amas ar gaakeTeb, Sen amisTvis<br />
pasuxs gagebineb, mkacrad dagsjio;<br />
es yvelaferi raRac sargeblis<br />
miRebisken iyo mimarTuli (misive<br />
TqmiT).<br />
amis Semdeg gegma punqtobrivad<br />
xorcieldeba. erT mSvenier dRes<br />
grigoli saxlSi midis (isev misive<br />
naTqvamidan), xvdeba meuRle, romelsac<br />
„Cemodani” Calagebuli aqvs.<br />
ekiTxeba, _ ratom da risTvis midixaro?<br />
_ Sen ufleba ar gaqvs, damakavoo,<br />
_ ar gakavebo da meuRle misive,<br />
grigol bakuraZis telefonidan<br />
axorcielebs zars. modis policia<br />
da Zaladoba fiqsirebuli<br />
ar aris. es ver gabedes, radgan aranairi<br />
dazianeba ar yofila da iqve<br />
grigols Semakavebeli orderi<br />
gamouweres.<br />
_ es pirveli SemTxveva rodis<br />
xdeba?<br />
_ gasul agvistos. amis Semdeg<br />
Cems klients mimarTulebas aZleven<br />
da pirdapir eubnebian, _ ai, mTeli<br />
saxelmwifo meqanizmebi qaleb-<br />
10<br />
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is Zaladobisgan dasacavad muSaobs,<br />
xom xedav, ase martivad, ise,<br />
rom araferi gagikeTebia, mainc<br />
daisaje, radgan kanoni Cvens mxarezeao.<br />
analogiuri iyo meore SemTxveva<br />
da faqtis Sesaxeb mogexsenebaT,<br />
Tu ra da rogor moxda 3 ianvars.<br />
bakuraZis TqmiT, man gadawyvita,<br />
rom bavSvis sakiTxi moewesrigebinaT.<br />
dedam amaze sasamarTlos mimarTa,<br />
sadac mTeli ojaxuri urTierTdamokidebulebebi<br />
Cans. Tu<br />
vinmes, maT Soris mosamarTles<br />
kiTxva gauCndeba, rom am ojaxSi<br />
odesme vinme Zaladobda, es warmoudgeneli<br />
ambavi iqneba.<br />
am gogonas maqsimalur komforts<br />
uqmnidnen (isev grigol bakuraZis<br />
Cvenebidan). misi ucxouri<br />
vizitebi uzrunvelyofili iyo da<br />
bavSvs am dros mama zrdida. grigols<br />
dedis funqciebic SeTavsebuli<br />
hqonda. gamokiTxvisas yvela<br />
mowme calsaxad afiqsirebs, rom<br />
Zalian xSirad bavSvis saTanado<br />
movlasTan dakavSirebiT kiTxvis<br />
niSnebi ismeboda. da es grigol<br />
bakuraZisTvis yvelaze mtkivneuli<br />
wertili iyo. is saaTobiT ujda im<br />
medikamentebs, saxis movlis sabavSvo<br />
saSualebebs, pampersebs da sxva<br />
yvelafers. dawvrilebiT kiTxulobda<br />
instruqciebs da imdenad<br />
faqizi iyo Svilis mimarT, rom mis-<br />
Tvis yvelaze mtivneuli es wertili<br />
iyo _ bavSvi unda yofiliyo<br />
janmrTli, movlili da mowesrigebuli.<br />
amitom erT-erTi Txovna, romelic<br />
am ojaxSi Zalian mSvidobianad<br />
gaisma, es iyo, _ bavSvs mimixede.<br />
Zalian kargi, rom es yvelaferi<br />
ase damTavrda da ara cudi SedegiT,<br />
tragediiT. me, rogorc deda<br />
da advokati vgmob Zaladobas, magram<br />
aseTi kategoriis danaSaulze<br />
ase calmxrivad saubari dauSvebelia.<br />
es mamakacsa da umravlesobas<br />
araTanabar mdgomareobaSi agdebs,<br />
faqtobrivad, aravin uyurebs, Tu<br />
riT SeiZleba iyos marTali moZalade,<br />
es brWyalebSi, rasakvirvelia.<br />
mTavaria, rom arc mtkicebulebebs<br />
uyureben, Tu ra iyo am yvelafris<br />
winapiroba. realurad, es<br />
iyo dagegmili danaSauli. mamam,<br />
goCa bakuraZem, gamoZiebas safuZvliani<br />
Cveneba ukve misca. am saqme-<br />
Si yvelaze didi ubedureba is aris,<br />
rom grigolis CvenebiT, garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi, dea<br />
goSxeTeliani mis mimarT piradi<br />
cxovrebis saidumlo informaciebs<br />
agrovebda, aseve masalebs mis<br />
komerciul saqmianobaze. Tavisi<br />
bankis erT-erT TanamSromelTan<br />
erTad grigolis angariSebis gadamowmeba<br />
xdeboda. yovel SemTxvevaSi,<br />
es informacia aqvs Cems klients,<br />
rac mesijiTac dasturdeba.<br />
_ da ras ambobs, ra amoZraveb-<br />
dao?<br />
ledi tukvaZe:<br />
`saxelmwifos mxridan<br />
agresiis Semdeg<br />
bakuraZem cixeSi<br />
TviTmkvleloba scada~<br />
`erTis dacvis<br />
xarjze meoris<br />
diskreditacia ar<br />
unda xdebodes.<br />
vin daicavs<br />
mamakacebis<br />
uflebebs am<br />
qveyanaSi?~<br />
_ waikiTxo meilebi, saqmiani<br />
partniorebis raRac komerciul<br />
saidumloebebze wvdoma gqondes,<br />
es mZime Temaa. aseve misi telefoniT<br />
gadaRebul miwer-mowerebs<br />
ugzavnida megobrebs da eubneboda,<br />
rom amasTan da amasTan kontaqti<br />
aqvso. rogorc ki grigoli<br />
daiZinebda, misi telefoni bolomde<br />
aTvisebuli iyo (misive monayolidan).<br />
ar vici, amis mizezi da mizani<br />
ra iyo. am situaciaSi yvelaze mTavari<br />
aqcenti is aris, rom Cven ukve<br />
oficialurad telefonis daTvalierebas<br />
moviTxovT. amoiRon yvela<br />
is mniSvnelovani mesiji, Canaweri,<br />
rac ki am telefonSia, radgan<br />
SesaZlebelia, saqme exebodes piradi<br />
cxovrebis sagulisxmo detalebs.<br />
gamoZiebisTvis Cven ori mniSvnelovani<br />
mesiji gvaqvs, romelic<br />
grigol bakuraZem 3 ianvars, SemTxvevis<br />
dRes miiRo. es aris dea goSxeTelianis<br />
da erTi mamakacis miwer-mowera,<br />
rodesac deam es mokle<br />
teqsturi Setyobineba dausqrina<br />
da grigol bakuraZes gadmougzavna<br />
(grigolis Cvenebidan). swored<br />
es gaxda 3 ianvris incidentis safuZveli.<br />
grigols ra eqna, sad wasuliyo?<br />
icoda, rom bavSvTan er-<br />
Tad coli absoluturad sxvagan,<br />
konkretul adgilze elodeboda<br />
(esec imave dRis mesijebSi dasturdeba,<br />
werda, rom bavSvTan er-<br />
Tad iq viqnebi da moakiTxe, waiyvaneo).<br />
aRniSnuli esemesis wakiTxvis<br />
Semdeg ki grigol bakuraZe midis<br />
im mamakacTan, manqanaSi isvams da<br />
eubneba, _ wamodi, SevxvdeT dea<br />
goSxeTelianis mamas da vuTxraT,<br />
rom Cems janmrTelobis mdgomareobaze,<br />
seqsualur cxovrebaze dacinva<br />
(rac am mesijis Sinaarsi iyo)<br />
am formiT ar unda xdebodes, ra<br />
vqna, cols amaze policiaSi vuCivloo?<br />
amitom qarTuli mentalitetis<br />
gavleniT mamasTan mivida salaparakod.<br />
swored iq iwyeba incidenti,<br />
romlis audiomasalac arsebobs.<br />
yvela Cveneba, romelic goSxeTelianebs<br />
aqvT micemuli, absoluturad<br />
gansxvavdeba maTi dazianebis<br />
realuri xarisxisgan, aseve audioCanaweris<br />
Sinaarsisgan.<br />
_ iq ra moxda?<br />
_ detalebze saubari ar minda,<br />
dacvas avTenturi monacemebi moepoveba.<br />
viRacam gadawyvita, rom am<br />
saqmeze imuSaos, didi dafinanseba<br />
aiRos da amisTvis problemuri<br />
qeisebi sWirdeba. magram es ar aris<br />
meqanizmi, romliTac ojaxur ZaladobasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT Sss-s axalma<br />
departamentma unda imuSaos.<br />
swored am departamentis Seqmnas<br />
moyva bakuraZis samagaliTod dasja.<br />
amis ukan ki idgnen adamianebi,<br />
romlebic cdilobdnen, rom igi<br />
daesajaT, rogorc grigol bakuraZe<br />
da ara rogorc erTi rigiTi<br />
„moZalade mamakaci”.<br />
ojaxi qveynis yvelaze didi institutia<br />
da Tu realurad ojaxuri<br />
Zaladobaa, aseTi sanqciebiT<br />
ukuSedegebs miviRebT. es kaci sami<br />
weli ijdeba Tu meti xani, miT<br />
ufro Tu es agresia aqvs ojaxis<br />
wevris, meore mxaris mimarT, siZulvili<br />
da Zaladobrivi gamovlineba<br />
kidev ufro gauRvivdeba, iq ki<br />
ar daucxreba.<br />
_ yofili meuRlisa da mamami-<br />
sis mimarT realur Zaladobas ar<br />
hqonda adgili, razedac meore<br />
mxare saubrobs?<br />
_ samives erTi da igive xarisxis<br />
dazianebebi hqonda, mama-Svilsa<br />
da grigols. aq tipuri Sexla-Semoxla<br />
iyo, mama modis da gawev-gamowevaa.<br />
10 N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.
_ amas ra reagireba moyva?<br />
_ grigols sapatimro giravnoba<br />
Seufardes. iqve daakaves, SemTxvevis<br />
adgilidan ar gaqceula, wamebSi<br />
moxda es yvelaferi. Tanac iq<br />
arasrulwlovani bavSvi ar yofila,<br />
amaze srulad pasuxismgebeli<br />
var. Tumca gamoZieba edaveba, rom<br />
es yvelaferi arasrulwlovnis<br />
TandaswrebiT moxda.<br />
grigol bakuraZe morCilad gareT<br />
elodeboda, Tu ra moxdeboda.<br />
daakaves, iqve Semakavebeli orderi<br />
patrulma gamouwera, waiyvanes<br />
da gamoZieba daiwyes. rogorc<br />
aseTi tipis danaSaulebze xdeba<br />
(msgavsi precedenti Zalian bevria,<br />
dRes gancxadeba SemoaqvT, meuRleebs<br />
uCivian, meore wuTSi an Cvenebas<br />
ar aZleven, an kanoniT gaTvaliswinebul<br />
SeRavaTebs iyeneben<br />
da a.S.), xSirad arasapatimro RonisZiebebi<br />
gamoiyeneba xolme. aqac<br />
ase moxda.<br />
mokled, pirvelma sasamarTlom<br />
patimroba ar Seufarda. prokuraturis<br />
saCivari ar dakmayofilda,<br />
magram sagamoZiebo uwyebam gaasa-<br />
Civra.<br />
aRkveTis RonisZiebis ganxilvis<br />
dros gamovida Tea wulukiani, sax-<br />
gaakeTos da ara ZalmomreobiT<br />
mimarTon qmars an cols, _ dawere<br />
esa Tu is gancxadeba, mas ar Seurigde<br />
da a. S. es gza srul katastrofamde<br />
migviyvans.<br />
ukve bevri qali sargeblobs am<br />
realobiT da bevri mamakaci iZulebulia,<br />
bolomde cixeSi rom ar<br />
wavides, daTmos qoneba, mTeli cxovreba<br />
da raRacebze daTanxmdes.<br />
axla miTxariT, narkomanis daWeriT<br />
problema mowesrigda? gamosavali<br />
xom iqac marto metadonis<br />
programa ki ara, sareabilitacio<br />
centrebia da qveyana aseTi socialuri<br />
momsaxurebiT savse unda iyos.<br />
aseve unda iyos ojaxur frontzec<br />
da ara dana-CanglebiT damdgari<br />
prokurorebi wyvetdnen<br />
yvelafers.<br />
_ bolo sasamarTlom konkre-<br />
tulad ra gadawyvetileba miiRo?<br />
_ orTviani patimroba Seufarda.<br />
amis Semdeg cixeSi myof bakuraZes<br />
kidev erTi Semakavebeli orderi<br />
gamouweres daudasturebeli<br />
monacemis safuZvelze. mokled,<br />
mosamarTleebs pirdapiri davaleba<br />
aqvT micemuli, _ daiWireT!.. es<br />
Zalian cudi precedentia da cudad<br />
damTavrdeba, radgan saxelmwi-<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
da gamesaubron. mzad var, masalebi<br />
vaCveno, Tu rogor xdeboda<br />
Tveebis manZilze Cemi SantaJi piradi<br />
cxovrebiT, Cemi janmrTelobis<br />
mdgomareobiT. moisminon es audiofirebi,<br />
esemesebi waikiTxon,<br />
eqspertebi, maTi fsiqologebi Car-<br />
Ton da saboloo gadawyvetileba<br />
mere miiRono.<br />
am qveyanaSi amis gakeTeba ase<br />
rTulia? magram amaze ar modian.<br />
_ gamosavali ra aris?<br />
_ faqtobrivad, es ojaxi fsiqikur<br />
aSlilobamde miiyvanes. amitom<br />
mTeli es procesi mxolod<br />
samarTlebriv CarCoSi unda gadavides.<br />
am wnexisgan prokuraturac,<br />
sasamarTloc unda ganTavisufldes.<br />
viTom evrostandartebs asruleben<br />
da stambulis konvenciac<br />
beWebze dades. sanam maRalCinosnebi<br />
msgavs gancxadebebs gaakeTeben,<br />
im stambulis gzaze mimaval naxevarmilionian<br />
emigracias am qveyanaSi<br />
jer saTanado pirobebi Seuqmnan<br />
da mere ifiqron konvenciebze.<br />
erTis dacvis xarjze meoris<br />
diskreditacia ar unda xdebodes.<br />
vin daicavs mamakacebis uflebebs<br />
am qveyanaSi?<br />
mTavari bavSvis mdgomareobaa, amas<br />
rom ver Seveguebi, saxelmwifom<br />
amisTvis unda damiWiros? ar unda<br />
mkiTxon mainc, Tu ra mWirs da ra<br />
momividao? - meubneba Cemi dacvis<br />
qveS myofi.<br />
Tavis mxriv, dea goSxeTeliani,<br />
romelic yofil meuRles masze ZaladobaSi<br />
adanaSaulebs, gancxadebas<br />
avrcelebs da sazogadoebasa<br />
da xelisuflebas daxmarebas sTxovs.<br />
rogorc dea goSxeTelianis gancxadebaSia<br />
aRniSnuli, yofili meuRlis<br />
mxare cdilobs SeuzRudos<br />
sityvisa da gamoxatvis Tavisufleba,<br />
ra mizniTac Sss-s saCivrebiT<br />
mimarTaven. dea goSxeTelianis<br />
gancxadebiT, yofili meuRlis mxare<br />
Semakavebeli orderebis gacemasa<br />
da misTvis sajaro gancxadebebis<br />
gakeTebis akrZalvas iTxovs:<br />
„minda, sazogadoeba da xelisufleba<br />
saqmis kursSi Cavayeno, rom<br />
bolo kvirebis ganmavlobaSi mikav-<br />
Sirdebian Sinagan saqmeTa saministros<br />
policiis ganyofilebebidan<br />
da matyobineben, rom Cem mimarT<br />
Cemi yofili meuRlis mxare sa-<br />
Civrebs wers, TiTqos maT sajar-<br />
misi naxvis SesaZlebloba. rogorc<br />
gairkva, kanonmdeblobiT, aqvs mamas<br />
ufleba, ase moiqces. iyo<br />
Zalian bevri muqara, rogorc Cemi,<br />
aseve Cemi ojaxis wevrebis mimarT.<br />
sul mimeorebdnen, rom arian mdidrebi,<br />
aqvT fuli da rogorc endomebaT,<br />
ise iqneba kanonic...<br />
aseve sul trabaxobdnen, rom<br />
hyavdaT sxvadasxva Tanamdebobaze<br />
megobrebi. me Cems yofil meuRles-<br />
Tan ukve daSorebuli viyavi. maTi<br />
mxridan muqarisa da daSinebis Semdeg<br />
SemiTanxmdnen, rom Tu or<br />
dRes moviTxovdi, bavSvs maCvenebdnen<br />
xolme, Tu arada, wlebi marbeninebdnen<br />
sasamarTloSi meurveobis<br />
sakiTxze, wlebi gamawvalebdnen<br />
da mec ar meqneboda amis arc<br />
resursi da am wlebis manZilze<br />
arc bavSvis naxvis SesaZlebloba.<br />
iZulebuli gavxdi, amaze davTanxmebuliyavi,<br />
radgan Cemi cxovrebis<br />
TiToeuli wuTi da wami Cems<br />
Svils ekuTvnis. imasac vgebulob,<br />
rom am TemiT manipulirebasac<br />
apireben. Tumca kidev vimeoreb: me<br />
maqvs sapatrulo policiis oqmebi,<br />
romlebic Sedgenilia sasamarTlomde,<br />
sadac dafiqsirebulia,<br />
`viRacam<br />
udanaSaulobis<br />
prezumpciis darRveviT<br />
gadawyvita, rom<br />
grigoli damnaSaved<br />
gamoecxadebina~<br />
alxo damceli, mokled, bevri piri,<br />
visac ki ar ezareboda da moiTxova,<br />
rom saswrafod gadaexedaT pirveli<br />
instanciis gadawyvetilebisTvis,<br />
_ es kaci moZaladea da dasajeTo.<br />
saxalxo damcvelsac daaxloebiT<br />
msgavsi mowodeba hqonda.<br />
ori kviraa, patimari SimSilobs,<br />
uwyebaTa pirveli pirebi masTan<br />
Sesvlas da gasaubrebas iTxoven.<br />
maxsovs, uCa nanuaSvilis araCveulebrivi<br />
precedentebi, romelsac<br />
arc erT patimarze ar daezara,<br />
piradad mivida da Sexvda maT, situaciebSi<br />
piradad bolomde gaerkvia.<br />
amitom viTxovT dRevandeli<br />
saxalxo damcvelis CarTulobas.<br />
maT eqspertebTan davsxdeT, dacvam<br />
Tavisi argumentebi warmoadginos,<br />
radgan am SemTxvevaSi yvela<br />
instituti procesSi cudad ereva.<br />
ojaxis institutze saubari daviwye<br />
da Cven bolos imdens gavakeTebT,<br />
rom ojaxi aRar darCeba.<br />
es instituti ki ar unda vangrioT,<br />
unda vaSenoT da Tu es kaci<br />
moZaladea, sami wliT cixeSi gamoketvis<br />
mere amaze uaresi ar iqneba?<br />
wlebis mere rom iqidan gamovardes<br />
da uaresi danaSauli Caidinos,<br />
mere sad midixarT? departamentebis<br />
Seqmnasa da ase Zaladobrivad<br />
gadawyvetilebebis miRebas,<br />
ar sjobia, gamoyoT specialuri<br />
fsiqologebi, gamoiyos resursi da<br />
a. S.<br />
religiuri damokidebulebis<br />
adamianebTan eklesia iyos CarTuli,<br />
Seiswavlon es yvelaferi, radgan<br />
msgavsi problemebis dros marto<br />
erTi mxare ar aris xolme yvelaferSi<br />
damnaSave. saxelmwifom am<br />
mimarTulebiT xom SeiZleba rame<br />
fos mxridan wamosuli agresiis<br />
gamo, am biWma sakuTar Tavs lamis<br />
ganaCeni gamoutana, man cixeSi<br />
TviTmkvleloba scada. rom ara<br />
sasjelaRsrulebis departamentis<br />
TanamSromlebi, maTi operatiuloba,<br />
es mcdeloba Zalian cudi SedegiT<br />
damTavrdeboda.<br />
imdeni gaakeTes, rom grigolis<br />
janmrTeloba realuri safrTxis<br />
qveS dadga. aq ar vlaparakob fsiqologiur<br />
problemebze, janmrTelobis<br />
sxva problemebzea saubari.<br />
gamokvleva daiwyes da daadgines,<br />
rom mis mdgomareobaSi SimSiloba<br />
yovlad dauSvebelia, Tu komaSi Cavarda...<br />
xalxno, sad varT, am fonze mis<br />
ra fsiqiatriulSi gadayvanazea<br />
saubari? es romc gvWirdebodes, am<br />
mimarTulebiT namdvilad ar wavalT.<br />
mTavaria, SimSiloba Sewyvitos<br />
da amisTvis Sexvedras moiTxovs.<br />
erTi adamianis sicocxle da<br />
janmrTeloba imad ar Rirs, rom<br />
uwyebebis pirveli pirebi uSualod<br />
Sexvdnen da daelaparakon?<br />
Saqris glukoza maqsimalurze aqvs<br />
aweuli, radgan ukve 11 dRea, Sim-<br />
Silobs. 32 wlis biWis janmrTeloba<br />
da sicocxle amis fasad ar<br />
Rirs, rom ori wuTi gamoyon da<br />
Sexvdnen?<br />
grigoli mzad aris, mtkicebulebebi<br />
gadasces da moyves, Tu<br />
rogor moxda es yvelaferi.<br />
_ amaze ras pasuxoben?<br />
_ maTi warmomadgenlebi Sedian,<br />
romlebsac grigoli eubneba, _<br />
Tqven CemTvis brali ar dagidevT,<br />
is adamianebi xarT, romlebmac me<br />
moZaladed gamomacxadeso; amitom<br />
movidnen pirveli pirebi, Semxvdnen<br />
Tu gamokvleuli iqneba yvela<br />
mtkicebuleba, sasamarTlos sruli<br />
STabeWdileba Seeqmneba, Tu ra<br />
moxda sinamdvileSi da rom es yvelaferi<br />
provocirebuli, dadgmuli<br />
danaSaulia. miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom bevri lanZRva-gineba miviRe<br />
(Cemze ganxorcielebul zewolazec<br />
gamoZieba dawyebulia), msurs<br />
giTxraT, rom saqme Cveni gamarjvebiT<br />
Tu dasruldeba, realurad, am<br />
saqmes gamarjvebuli ar eyoleba;<br />
es CemTvisac wagebuli saqme iqneba,<br />
radgan yvelaze did Rirebulebas,<br />
arasrulwlovani bavSvis interesebs<br />
davazaralebT rogorc<br />
dedis, aseve mamis mxare.<br />
Zalian bevri aseTi saqme mqonia,<br />
rodesac Serigebulan da dRes<br />
bednierad cxovroben. gamoZiebas<br />
saSualeba mivceT daadginos, sinamdvileSi<br />
ra moxda, marto erTi<br />
mxare damnaSave ar aris xolme. am<br />
kacis ase daundoblad diskreditaciasac<br />
nu movaxdenT.<br />
Cven mtkicebulebebis mopovebis<br />
procesSi varT. gamoZieba dasruldeba<br />
da 12 marts pirveli<br />
sasamarTlo sxdomaa.<br />
am adamianebma aucileblad arasrulwlovani<br />
bavSvis interesebze<br />
unda ifiqron. ojaxis SenarCuneba<br />
SesaZlebeli iqneba Tu ara, nebismier<br />
SemTxvevaSi bavSvi jansaR<br />
garemoSi unda gaizardos. mTelma<br />
qveyanam gamofenil TeTreulze ar<br />
unda isaubros. grigoli mzad aris,<br />
rom bavSvs deda zrdides, Tu,<br />
rasakvirvelia, es SeuZlia. magram<br />
Svili sufTa, janmrTel da jansaR<br />
garemoSi unda izrdebodes. grigoli<br />
ambobs, bavSvi zemoT-qvemoT<br />
varbenino, ase ar gamovao; CemTvis<br />
od vayeneb Seuracxyofas da mizani<br />
am yvelafris aris is, rom gamoices<br />
Semakavebeli orderebi. aqvT<br />
axali strategia, raTa Cemze statistikurad<br />
bevri Semakavebeli<br />
orderi dagrovdes. Semdeg surT<br />
sasamarTloSi bavSvis meurveobis<br />
sakiTxSi gamoiyenon es orderebi,<br />
TiTqos, cudi deda var, ver vzrdi<br />
bavSvs da TiTqos, fsiqologiurad<br />
vZaladob Cems yofil<br />
meuRlesa da misi mxaris warmomadgenlebze.<br />
amis mtkicebuleba maTi<br />
mxridan ki iqneba is, rom Turme<br />
Cemze dawerilia bevri Semakavebeli<br />
orderi. es yovelive aris Cemi,<br />
rogorc saqarTvelos moqalaqis,<br />
diskreditacia da konstituciiT<br />
moniWebuli sityvisa da gamoxatvis<br />
Tavisuflebis SezRudva, amiT<br />
cdiloben gamaCumon da Tavad iyvnen<br />
momgebian poziciaSi. es binZuri<br />
qmedebebi Tavs magrZnobinebs daucvelad,<br />
Tumca mjera da imedi<br />
maqvs samarTliani sasamarTlosi<br />
da im uwyebebis samarTlianobis,<br />
visac es saqmeebi exeba.<br />
aqve minda ganvmarto, Tu ratom<br />
Sevida sasamarTloSi Cemi sarCeli<br />
da Semdgom, noembris TveSi, sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetileba, romli-<br />
Tac me bavSvis naxvisTvis momeca<br />
morigebis aqtiT kviraSi 2 dRe.<br />
sasamarTlomde 4-jer myavs sapatrulo<br />
policia gamoZaxebuli,<br />
roca me bavSvs mimalavdnen, ar mayolebdnen,<br />
matyuebdnen mis adgilsamyofels,<br />
mizRudavdnen masTan<br />
kontaqts. arsebobs Sesabamisi mtkicebulebebi<br />
da oqmebi. iyo faqti,<br />
rom bavSvi sabavSvo baRidanac<br />
gaiyvanes da erT Tvemde sofelSi<br />
hyavdaT. me SezRuduli mqonda<br />
rom me Cemi Svili „momtaces” da<br />
cdilobdnen, CemTvis daemalaT.<br />
dRes Cemi Svili Cem gverdiTaa da<br />
mas veravin damaSorebs.<br />
minda, sworad gaigos sazogadoebam,<br />
me Cemi Svilis naxvaze da<br />
mis CemTan yofnaze ar miTqvams uari,<br />
es iyo muqarisa da zewolis<br />
Sedegad warmoTqmuli Tanxmoba,<br />
rom me ori dRec makmayofilebda<br />
misi naxvisTvis. muqarisa da zewolis<br />
Sedegi 2018 wlis 3 ianvars sazogadoebam<br />
ixila _ Cemi yofili<br />
meuRle momivarda saxlSi, sastikad<br />
gamisworda fizikurad arasrulwlovani<br />
Svilis TandaswrebiT<br />
da aseve sastikad scema Cemi ojaxis<br />
wevric, mSobeli mama. marTalia,<br />
dRes Cemi yofili meuRle patimrobaSia,<br />
Tumca procesi dRemde<br />
mimdinareobs da mjera samarTliani<br />
sasamarTlosi.<br />
ra gaxldaT Cemi ojaxis dangrevis<br />
mizezi?! fizikuri Zaladoba,<br />
daundoblad cema bavSvis TandaswrebiT,<br />
aseve fexmZimobisas daudgeneli<br />
wamlis daleva iZulebis<br />
wesiT, meore Svilze fexmZimobis<br />
dros nerviulobis fonze bavSvis<br />
dakargva, gamudmebuli fsiqologiuri<br />
zewola...<br />
dRes ki me vdgavar am provokaciuli<br />
gamowvevebis winaSe, radgan<br />
yvela frontze mebrZvian misi<br />
mxridan 6 advokati, romlebic yvela<br />
xerxs mimarTaven, raTa me, dazaralebuli<br />
_ moZaladed gamomiyvanon,<br />
manamde ki, am brZolis periodSi,<br />
gamaCumon, SemizRudon sityvisa<br />
da gamoxatvis Tavisufleba”,<br />
_ aRniSnulia dea goSxeTelianis<br />
gancxadebaSi.<br />
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11
_ diax. saakaSvilis partia jer<br />
Zalian axali warmonaqmni iyo, aravin<br />
icoda, rogor moikrebda Zalebs.<br />
faqtia, rom saakaSvilis personaluri<br />
popularoba sakmaod ma-<br />
Ralia ukrainaSi da poroSenkosTvis,<br />
cxadia, saxifaTo iyo saakaSvili,<br />
romelic garSemo ikrebda<br />
xalxs da, ra Tqma unda, awyobda<br />
misi Tavidan moSoreba. poroSenkos<br />
Zalian dabali reitingi aqvs<br />
da sxva gamowvevebis winaSecaa, sxva<br />
seriozuli moTamaSeebic arian ukrainaSi,<br />
magaliTad, iulia timoSenko,<br />
romelic seriozuli opoziciaa<br />
poroSenkosTvis, saakaSvils<br />
ki Tavisi aqtivobiT SeeZlo kidev<br />
ufro gaeZlierebina opozicia,<br />
radgan misi amomrCeveli araa sxva<br />
opoziciuri partiebis amomrCeve-<br />
rezo SatakiSvili<br />
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„qronika+~ esaubreba parlamentis<br />
wevrs „nacionaluri moZraobidan”,<br />
qalbaton salome samadaS-<br />
vils:<br />
_ rac moimoqmeda poroSenkom<br />
saqarTvelos mesame prezidentis<br />
winaaRmdeg, yvelam vnaxeT, magram,<br />
Tqveni azriT, misi es nabiji ra<br />
procesebs xdis fardas?<br />
_ is, rac xdeba ukrainaSi da<br />
saqarTveloSi, saerTod, regionSi,<br />
erTian WrilSi unda moviazroT. am<br />
qveynebSi Camoyalibda oligarqiuli<br />
sistema, sadac oligarqebi<br />
floben politikur Zalauflebas,<br />
oligarqiuli interesebi Serwymulia<br />
saxelmwifo Zalauflebas-<br />
Tan. am sistemas aucileblad unda<br />
daupirispirdes xalxis Zala, xalxis<br />
xma. oligarqebi yovelTvis mo-<br />
Zebnian saerTo enas politikur da<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
miayenebs „qarTul ocnebas”, maT<br />
Soris, sagareo asparezzec.<br />
_ da ra, yofili premier-min-<br />
istri merabiSvili rom cixeSi<br />
hyavs gamomwyvdeuli, ra xdeba?<br />
Tavidan yvelas egona, rom ivaniS-<br />
vili ar Seexeboda dedaqalaqis<br />
arCeul mers, yofil premiers,<br />
radgan es dartymas miayenebda<br />
maT, gamoiwvevda dasavleTis reaqcias<br />
da es faqtori Semakavebeli<br />
iqneboda misTvis, magram mox-<br />
da is, rom mSvenivradac daiWira,<br />
gamoketa cixeSi da arc dasavle-<br />
Tis mZafri reaqcia mohyolia,<br />
SeSfoTebiT dakmayofildnen.<br />
_ dasavleTis berketebi ama Tu<br />
im qveynis xelisuflebaze SezRudulia,<br />
garda amisa, rodesac igive<br />
ukrainaSi iulia timoSenko daapatimres,<br />
maSin evropam radikalur<br />
moldova, marTlac Camoyalibda<br />
raRac aseT politikuri mmarTvelobis<br />
formad, romelic seriozul<br />
problemebs uqmnis am qveynebis<br />
ganviTarebas, rogorc moklevadian,<br />
ise grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi.<br />
_ rodesac vambobT, rom ivaniSvils<br />
ar awyobs saakaSvili cix-<br />
eSi, es efuZneba ivaniSvilis im Si-<br />
Sebs, romelic mas aqvs rom safr-<br />
Txe Seeqmneba mis Zalauflebas,<br />
magram Tqven cota gadaWarbebu-<br />
lad ar geCvenebaT misi es SiSebi?<br />
rogor fiqrobT, saakaSvilis<br />
saqa<br />
qarTveloSi dapatimrebis Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi agordeboda ki iseTi<br />
saprotesto talRa, romelic safrTxes<br />
Seuqmnida mis Zalaufle-<br />
bas?<br />
_ ase saubari rTulia, magram<br />
`qarTuli ocneba~ _<br />
es aris Senelebuli<br />
moqmedebis proeqti,<br />
rom es qveyana<br />
sabolood daubrundes<br />
ruseTis orbitas~<br />
bizneselitebTan, magram Znelia,<br />
ver iyidian TiToeul moqalaqes<br />
da es moqalaqeebi, adre Tu gvian,<br />
ajanydebian da Seasusteben oligarqebis<br />
xelisuflebas. swored<br />
amitom arian oligarqebis, maT<br />
Soris, poroSenkos mTavari samizne<br />
is politikosebi, romelTac<br />
aqvT unari, mimarTon xalxs da axerxeben<br />
xalxis masebis mobilizebas.<br />
saakaSvili ukrainaSi iyo da<br />
aris aseTi moTamaSe.<br />
_ saqarTvelodanac swored<br />
magitomaa gandevnili, rom mas<br />
SeeZlo xalxis quCaSi gamoyvana.<br />
12<br />
li. magaliTad, saakaSvilis amomrCeveli<br />
araa timoSenkos amomrCeveli<br />
da saakaSvili, realurad,<br />
damatebiTi xmebis momtani iyo opoziciisTvis.<br />
swored amitom, poroSenko<br />
Seecada, ZirSive CaexSo es<br />
politikuri moZraoba da saakaSvili<br />
ganedevna, erTi mxriv, qveynidan<br />
da meore mxriv, politikuri<br />
velidan.<br />
_ poloneTSi gandevnamde mas<br />
sxva gegmebi hqonda saakaSvilis<br />
mimarT, aRZra saqme, surda misi<br />
dapatimreba, cixeSi gamomwyvdeva,<br />
rac ver moaxerxa da rac bolos<br />
moimoqmeda, misi mxridan xom ar<br />
iyo erTgvari ukandaxeva _ said-<br />
anac Sevida ukrainaSi, iq gauSva.<br />
_ me mgoni, poroSenkos, iseve<br />
rogorc ivaniSvils, Zalian kargad<br />
esmis, rom saakaSvilis cixeSi gamomwyvdeva<br />
damazianebeli iqneba<br />
maTTvis, rogorc sagareo, ise sa-<br />
Sinao frontze da ar sWirdebaT<br />
saakaSvili cixeSi da maT ufro<br />
awyobT gadawyvetileba, romelic<br />
gandevnis, aiZulebs saakaSvils, iyos<br />
devnilobaSi. amgvarad, naklebad<br />
mwvave iqneba maTTvis es problema.<br />
vfiqrob, rom saqarTvelosa<br />
da ukrainis xelisuflebebi garigdnen,<br />
arc erT maTgans ar undoda,<br />
saakaSvili maT cixeSi yofiliyo.<br />
ar awyobdaT es politikurad<br />
da poloneTSi misi gandevnis gadawyvetileba<br />
orivesTvis misaRebi<br />
iyo.<br />
_ im dRes, rodesac is polo-<br />
neTSi gandevnes, saqarTveloSi<br />
vrceldeboda informacia, rom<br />
iyo misi aq gadmocemis mcdelo-<br />
ba, rasac mohyva aseve daudastu-<br />
rebeli informaciis gavrceleba,<br />
rom ivaniSvilma Tqva uari ri mis<br />
miRebaze da Semdeg gauSves polo-<br />
neTSi. am informaciiT, ivaniS-<br />
vili, erTgvarad, pozitiuradac<br />
ki Cans, ar emeteba saakaSvili cix-<br />
isTvis.<br />
_ biZina ivaniSvils mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
dapatimreba ar unda sakuTari<br />
interesebidan gamomdinare.<br />
yofili prezidentis cixeSi<br />
Casma Zalian seriozul dartymas<br />
zomebs mimarTa da ukrainasTan SeaCera<br />
asocirebis xelSekrulebaze<br />
molaparakebebi. es iyo, faqtobrivad,<br />
sanqcia, ramac Seaferxa ukrainis<br />
integracia evropaSi, rasac<br />
Semdeg mohyva ianukoviCis cnobili<br />
gadawyvetilebebi da, realurad,<br />
maidani. am SemTxvevis Semdeg, evropul<br />
wreebSi azri gaiyo imis<br />
Sesaxeb, ramdenad swori iyo reagirebis<br />
is forma. bevrs miaCnda,<br />
rom evrokavSirs timoSenkos gamo<br />
ar unda Seewyvita molaparakebebi<br />
ukrainasTan da maSin SeiZleboda<br />
ufro rbilad wasuliyo ukrainis<br />
ukanaskneli wlebis istoria.<br />
_ magis gamoZaxilic xom ar<br />
aris is, rom iq Tu mag sanqciebs<br />
mimarTes timoSenkos SemTxvevaSi,<br />
aq ugulavas, merabiSvilis, axalaias,<br />
sxva politpatimrebis arsebobis<br />
miuxedavad Cven vizaliber-<br />
alizaciac ki mogvces?<br />
_ diax, garkveulwilad. evropas<br />
kargad esmis, rom is ar aris<br />
erTaderTi moTamaSe am regionSi<br />
da rogorc ki aq poziciebs Tmobs,<br />
amiT momentalurad sargeblobs<br />
sxva geopolitikuri moTamaSe _<br />
ruseTi da imwamsve iZlierebs<br />
poziciebs. dasavleTSi, garkveulwilad,<br />
midgoma Camoyalibda, rom<br />
pozitiuri TanamSromlobis gziT<br />
SeiZleba, ufro mets miaRwio,<br />
ufro meti zewolis berketi gqondes,<br />
vidre sxva gziT. merabiSvilis<br />
saqmeze ukve arsebobs strasburgis<br />
gadawyvetileba da es sakiTxi<br />
ukve Sevida diplomatiuri<br />
molaparakebebis dRis wesrigSi. is,<br />
rom arsebobs strasburgis gadawyvetileba<br />
am saqmeze, TavisTavad,<br />
ukve es faqtia zewola.<br />
_ ra Sansi, perspeqtiva rCeba<br />
brZolis velidan gaZevebul<br />
saakaSvils? Cven vnaxeT, rodesac<br />
mas saqarTvelodan wasvla mouwia,<br />
amiT mxolod misi partia dazar-<br />
alda, axla ramdenad moaxerxebs<br />
is ukrainis procesebSi aqtiurad<br />
monawileobas iq yofnis gareSe?<br />
gasagebia, Tanamedrove teqnol-<br />
ogiuri saSualebebi garkveuli<br />
doziT iZleva procesebSi CarT-<br />
vis saSualebas, magram...<br />
_ diax, Tanamedrove teqnologiebi<br />
iZleva amis saSualebas, magram<br />
cxadia, sxva aris, rodesac liders<br />
aqvs SesaZlebloba, uSualod<br />
iurTierTos xalxTan. poroSenkos<br />
am gadawyvetilebas gaRizianeba<br />
mohyva ukrainul sazogadoebaSi<br />
da es gadawyvetileba rom namdvilad<br />
ar waadga mis imijs dasavleT-<br />
Si, yvelam dainaxa. saakaSvili, rogorc<br />
Tavad ambobs, apirebs distanciurad<br />
gaagrZelos saqmianoba.<br />
mas, ra Tqma unda, axla meti Sesa-<br />
Zlebloba aqvs imoZraos dasavleTSi,<br />
daexmaros regions, rom<br />
dasavleTma adekvaturi politika<br />
SeimuSaos am qveynebTan mimarTebiT.<br />
sagareo frontze mas axla<br />
ufro metis gakeTeba SeuZlia, vidre<br />
SeeZlo maSin, rodesac ukrainaSi,<br />
faqtobrivad, mudmivi devnis<br />
reJimSi iyo xelebSeboWili.<br />
darwmunebuli var, is moZebnis sakuTari<br />
SesaZleblobebis imgvarad<br />
gamoyenebis gzas, romelic saukeTeso<br />
iqneba mis mier dasaxuli<br />
miznebisTvis, rac aris am region-<br />
Si demokratiuli sistemebis ga-<br />
Zliereba, oligarqiul mmarTvelobasTan<br />
dapirispireba. oligarqiuli<br />
mmarTveloba am qveynebSi,<br />
rogoricaa saqarTvelo, ukraina,<br />
saakaSvili rCeba Zalian popularul<br />
politikur liderad am qveyanaSi,<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi, is amomrCevelSi<br />
Zalian didi mxardaWeriT<br />
sargeblobs da Tu is cixeSi<br />
aRmoCndeboda, es mis mxardamWerebs<br />
ufro mZafri protestisken<br />
ubiZgebda. ra masStabis iqneboda<br />
es protesti, axla rTuli gansasjelia,<br />
magram faqtia, rom politikur<br />
cxovrebaSi ukvalod ar<br />
Caivlida.<br />
_ oligarqebi rogorc ukrain-<br />
aSi, ise aq, garkveulwilad xom ar<br />
sargebloben imiTac, rom axla<br />
aSS-s ar scalia am qveynebisTvis?<br />
dakavebuli arian im mZafri SidaproblemebiT,<br />
rac mohyva ruse-<br />
Tis Carevas amerikis arCevnebSi.<br />
qveynis SigniT aqvT bevri ram<br />
gasarkvevi da ar scaliaT CvenT-<br />
vis. faqtia, rom wina wlebisgan<br />
gansxvavebiT, bolo periodSi, aSS<br />
aqtiurad aRar ereva arc saqar-<br />
Tvelos da arc ukrainis ambebSi.<br />
_ ara, amerika rCeba Zalian mniSvnelovan<br />
strategiul mokavSired<br />
orive qveynisTvis. Cven vxedav, rom<br />
am qveynebis samxedro SeiaraReba-<br />
Si, aRWurvaSi, daxmarebaSi amerika<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovan rols TamaSobs,<br />
kongresma didi Tanxebi gamoyo<br />
am qveynebis dasaxmareblad da<br />
12 N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.
arsebobs TanamSromlobis Zalian<br />
seriozuli formatebi. Tumca<br />
vfiqrob, rom is procesebi, rac<br />
axla midis amerikis SeerTebul<br />
StatebSi, saboloo jamSi, gamoaCens<br />
da cxads gaxdis, rom ideologiuri<br />
dapirispireba dasavleTsa<br />
da ruseTs Soris arsad wasula<br />
da grZeldeba. SesaZloa, aman<br />
garkveuli cvlilebebic gamoiwvios<br />
saqarTvelosTan da ukrainasTan<br />
mimarTebiT. vnaxoT, rogor<br />
dasruldeba es procesi, magram,<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi imas, rasac Cven<br />
dRes vuyurebT amerikaSi, gamofxizlebis<br />
procesad SeiZleba Cai-<br />
Tvalos, ruseTTan mimarTebiT.<br />
_ anu isini, realurad, axla<br />
acnobiereben ruseTis namdvil<br />
saxes da imas, rac SeuZlia rus-<br />
eTs?<br />
_ 11 seqtembris cnobili teroristuli<br />
Tavdasxmis Semdeg, Zalian<br />
didxans, amerikis safrTxeebis<br />
Sefasebis sistemaSi terorizmi da,<br />
Sesabamisad, sxva regionebi gaxda<br />
prioriteti amerikisTvis, es iyo<br />
maTTvis mTavari gamowveva da ruseTma<br />
am nusxaSi qvemoT Camoinacvla.<br />
ruseTi ukve aRar iyo dapirispirebuli<br />
dasavleTTan, yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi, deklarirebulad, arc<br />
aranairi ideologiuri baza ar gaaCnda<br />
im etapisTvis da aravin moiazrebda,<br />
rom Sedioda, an hqonda<br />
potenciali, an interesi, rom Sesuliyo<br />
seriozul ideologiur<br />
grZelvadian dapirispirebaSi dasavleTTan,<br />
amerikasTan. aRmoCnda,<br />
rom es molodini mcdari iyo. realurad,<br />
ideologiuri dapirispireba<br />
ruseTsa da dasavleTs Soris<br />
aqaa da viTardeba swored<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi, ukrainaSi, region-<br />
Si. regionSi ruseTis mTavari amocanaa<br />
daamtkicos, rom dasavluri,<br />
demokratiuli, liberaluri sistemebi<br />
ar aris funqcionirebadi,<br />
rom ar arsebobs civilizaciis is<br />
modeli, romelsac SeuZlia iarsebobs<br />
yofil sabWoTa sivrceSi. am<br />
ideologiur dapirispirebaSi ruseTi<br />
demokratias moiazrebs sisusted<br />
da, amave dros, swored<br />
demokratiuli sistemis gamoyenebiT<br />
cdilobs igi manipulirebas<br />
sxva qveynebSi. es moxda amerikaSi,<br />
es xdeba sxva qveynebSic, es<br />
moxda saqarTveloSic. ruseTi demokratias<br />
iyenebs demokratiis winaaRdeg.<br />
es kargad gamoaSkaravda<br />
amerikis arCevnebzec. vfiqrob,<br />
aqedan unda daiwyos raRac gamojanmrTelebis<br />
procesi im TvalsazrisiT,<br />
rom rodesac dainaxav<br />
problemas da daignozi gaqvs, iqidan<br />
iwyeba mkurnalobis procesic.<br />
_ anu seqtembris teraqtisas,<br />
rodesac aSS-m realurad gaiazra<br />
terorizmis safrTxe, im re-<br />
aluri gaazrebisas ukan morCa<br />
sxva safrTxe, kerZod, ruseTis da<br />
ukve axla, kiberTavdasxmis Sem-<br />
deg, gaacnobieres, rasTan da<br />
visTan aqvT saqme?<br />
_ diax, isini dganan Tanamedrove<br />
gamowvevebis winaSe, romelsac<br />
maT ruseTi uqmnis.<br />
_ da dRes, rodesac isini amx-<br />
ela gamowvevis winaSe dganan, da<br />
gasarkvevi aqvT, ramdenad iyo<br />
Careuli ruseTi maT arCevnebSi<br />
da TviTon am procesSi maTi<br />
dRevandeli prezidenti trampi,<br />
ar scaliaT saimisod, rom mixe-<br />
don ukrainas, saqarTvelos, ri-<br />
Tac sargebloben ivaniSvilic,<br />
poroSenkoc.<br />
_ ara, me ase ar vityodi, imitom<br />
rom es ideologiuri dapirispireba,<br />
romelic gamoaSkaravda<br />
ruseTsa da amerikas Soris, Cvenc<br />
gvexeba, imitom rom Seexeba swored<br />
demokratias da demokratiuli<br />
sistemis arsebobas am regionSi.<br />
amitom me vfiqrob da darwmunebuli<br />
var, rom am mimdinare gamowvevebis<br />
fonze, Cvens qveynebSi<br />
demokratiisa da demokratiuli<br />
mmarTvelobis xelSewyoba amerikis<br />
prioritetad darCeba. minda, kidev<br />
erTxel vTqva: me ver vxedav, rom<br />
dRes am regionSi amerikis interesebi<br />
Sesustebulia. amerika imitom<br />
aris globaluri moTamaSe da<br />
zesaxelmwifo, rom aqvs strategiuli<br />
interesebi, romelic ar<br />
qreba.<br />
_ geTanxmebiT, me imas ar vambob,<br />
rom amerikis myarma insti-<br />
tutebma xeli aiRes saqarTvelos<br />
mxardaWeraze, an TanamSromlobis<br />
dawyebuli formatebi gzaSi miatoves,<br />
laparakia uSualod prez-<br />
identis administraciaze. rog-<br />
orc wina prezidentebi ereodnen<br />
aqtiurad, amas ver vxedavT dRes.<br />
_ aSS-s yvela prezidents Tavisi<br />
prioritetebi, Tavisi dRis wesrigi<br />
aqvs. Tu imas vambobT, rom<br />
rogorc iyo buSebis mmarTvelobisas<br />
msoflioSi demokratiis mxardaWera<br />
prioriteti, dRes ase<br />
marTlac araa trampis adminis-<br />
N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.<br />
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`biZina ivaniSvils<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
dapatimreba ar unda<br />
sakuTari<br />
interesebidan<br />
gamomdinare.<br />
yofili prezidentis<br />
cixeSi Casma Zalian<br />
seriozul dartymas<br />
miayenebs `qarTul<br />
ocnebas~, maT Soris,<br />
sagareo asparezzec~<br />
traciis pirobebSi da amaSi, garkveulwilad,<br />
dageTanxmebiT. amerikeli<br />
amomrCevlis dakveTa iyo<br />
Sidaproblemebis mogvareba, maT<br />
Soris, ekonomikuri problemebis<br />
gadaWra. trampi movida swored im<br />
dapirebebiT, rom saxelmwifo politikas<br />
moargebs Cveulebrivi adamianis<br />
saWiroebebs. amitom mis-<br />
Tvis prioriteti ekonomikaa da sagareo<br />
politikasac ufro pragmatulad,<br />
iqidan gamomdinare udgeba,<br />
ra Sedis amerikis ekonomikur<br />
interesebSi.<br />
_ rodesac Cven vsaubrobT am<br />
xelisuflebis mavneblobaze, aris<br />
is sakiTxebi, problemebi, romel-<br />
sac yoveldRiurad veCexebiT ma-<br />
Ti gamoisobiT, magram gacilebiT<br />
didia is ubedureba, rac moxda<br />
maTi xelisuflebaSi yofnisas, sa-<br />
qarTvelo gaqra msoflio rukidan,<br />
rogorc saerTaSoriso moTamaSe.<br />
dartyma miadga qveynis sa-<br />
gareo kurss, bundovani gaxda sa-<br />
gareo veqtori, araferi keTdeba<br />
natoSi integraciis Tvalsazri-<br />
siT. vizaliberalizaciac ufro<br />
isev evropis SemoCeCebulia, vi-<br />
dre amaTi Zalisxmevis Sedegi,<br />
rom dasavleTs mTlad ruseTisT-<br />
vis ar daeTmo regioni. rogor<br />
fiqrobT, ase gagrZelebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Semdegi gaCereba ra iqne-<br />
ba?<br />
_ sagareo frontze veraferi<br />
moxdeba iseTi, rac gamijnulia<br />
qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebisgan.<br />
dRevandeli xelisuflebis gatarebuli<br />
politikis Sedegad saqar-<br />
Tvelo araTu win ver midis, ukve<br />
problemebi eqmneba im sikeTeebsac,<br />
rac miviReT. samwuxarod, vxedavT,<br />
rom kriminaluri viTarebis gamo<br />
da imis gamo, rom saqarTvelo<br />
kriminalur eqsports eweva sazRvargareT,<br />
ukve SeiZleba evropaSi<br />
uvizo reJimis gauqmebaze daiwyos<br />
saubari. is, risTvisac aTi da meti<br />
weli viomeT, ukve safrTxis qveS<br />
daayena am xelisuflebis mier gatarebulma<br />
politikam. imitom rom<br />
esaa xelisufleba, romelic dazavebulia<br />
kriminalTan, ar qmnis im<br />
sistemas, romelic Seakavebs kriminalis<br />
eqsports evropaSi. problemebia<br />
ekonomikaSi, gvaqvs Tavisufali<br />
vaWrobis xelSekruleba<br />
evropasTan, wesiT, qveyanaSi unda<br />
iqmnebodes samuSao adgilebi, vi-<br />
Tardebodes ekonomika, magram aranairi<br />
Sedegi ar aris, saqarTvelo<br />
ekonomikuradac ver viTardeba, da<br />
axla ukve gamoqveynda amerikis<br />
dazvervis samsaxuris angariSi, sadac<br />
miTiTebulia, rom dRevandeli<br />
xelisuflebis mizani aris opoziciis<br />
Seviwroeba da saxelmwifo<br />
zedamxedvelobis institutebis<br />
CamoSla qveyanaSi. anu, faqtobrivad,<br />
mimdinareobs mizanmimarTuli<br />
procesi, romelic angrevs saxelmwifos,<br />
angrevs Cvens ekonomikur,<br />
politikur, socialur struqturebs<br />
da TavisTavad am qveyanas ukve<br />
aRar eqneba potenciali imisTvis,<br />
rom sadme imoZraos, evrokav-<br />
SirSi iqneba Tu natoSi. amis paralelurad,<br />
Zalian nelTbilad, diax,<br />
isev saubroben imaze, rom diax,<br />
Cven gvinda nato, Cven gvinda evrokavSiri.<br />
_ mase cariel Tqmas win ra<br />
udgas?<br />
_ diax, Tqmas win ra udgas da<br />
amis garda, am qveyanaSi umravlesobas<br />
unda evrokavSirsa da nato-<br />
Si gawevrianeba da ra Tqma unda,<br />
nebismieri adamiani, vinc Riad ityvis,<br />
rom am mizans upirispirdeba,<br />
ganwirulia politikuri kraxisTvis.<br />
Cven vxedavT, rom igive ruseT-<br />
Si Cveni politikosebis yvela viziti,<br />
madloba RmerTs, jerjerobiT,<br />
qarTveli xalxisgan isjeba.<br />
qarTveli xalxi aris brZeni da<br />
icis mteri da moyvare.<br />
_ erTi mxriv, mag survilTan<br />
ar Sedian winaaRmdegobaSi, Tan<br />
aranair Zalisxmevas ar iTxovs<br />
Tqvan, rom undaT nato, evrokav-<br />
Siri da rac mTavaria, swored ama-<br />
Sia maTi mTavari mavneblobac, maT<br />
gadasarevad ician, rom rodesac<br />
adamianebs amianebs raRac mravali wlis<br />
manZilze esmiT da ar xdeba, es<br />
iwvevs imedgacruebas da miraJ-<br />
uls xdis natosa da evrokavSirs.<br />
esec xom araa swored maTi amoca-<br />
na, miraJad aqcion nato?<br />
_ ki, ra Tqma unda, es angrevs<br />
rwmenas da zustad magitom „qarTul<br />
ocnebas” aranairad ar miviCnev<br />
prodasavlur politikur Zalad.<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” _ es aris<br />
Zalian Senelebuli moqmedebis da<br />
efeqtis proeqti, rom es qveyana<br />
sabolood daubrundes ruseTis<br />
orbitas. me ar miviCnev „qarTul<br />
ocnebas” realurad im miznebisa da<br />
amocanebis gamtarebel politikur<br />
Zalad, romelic maT aqvT deklarirebuli.<br />
maT arc hqondaT<br />
sxva gamosavali, maT unda moeweraT<br />
xeli asocirebis xelSekrulebaze,<br />
imitom rom es maT momzadebuli<br />
miiRes memkvidreobiT, maT<br />
ar hqondaT sxva Sansi, rom ar gaeformebinaT<br />
is, rac daxvdaT, rac<br />
miiRes memkvidreobiT. axla 6 weli<br />
gavida da vxedavT, rom araferi axali<br />
ar iqmneba da rac daxvdaT,<br />
nel-nela mimdinareobis imis Camo-<br />
Sla. rodesac premier-ministri<br />
davosSi acxadebs, rom demokratia<br />
aris qveynis Tavdacvis mTavari<br />
sistema da swored demokratia uzrunvelyofs<br />
qveynis natoSi integracias,<br />
albaT, unda esmodes, rom<br />
paralelur reJimSi qveyanaSi<br />
damoukidebeli mediis devna, prodasavluri<br />
opoziciis devna, saxelmwifo<br />
zedamxedvelobis institutebis<br />
CamoSla, politpatimrebisa<br />
da politdevnilebis arseboba<br />
ar uwyobs xels demokratiis<br />
ganmtkicebas.<br />
_ kriminalis eqsporti axse-<br />
neT, am procesSi cxadia, Tavisi<br />
wili pasuxismgebloba ekisreba<br />
xelisuflebas, imitom rom qveya-<br />
naSi araa normaluri cxovrebis,<br />
muSaobis pirobebi da xalxi maso-<br />
brivad garbis, magram Tu gaviTvaliswinebT<br />
swored krimina-<br />
lis eqsportis masStabs, Cndeba<br />
sxva eWvic, xom ar gvaqvs saqme<br />
raRac sxva fenomenTan? rodesac<br />
ase erTbaSad Tavi Seircxvines ge-<br />
rmaniaSi, SveicariaSi, ager ital-<br />
iaSi axal saketebs igoneben da<br />
„antijorjianos” arqmeven, raRac<br />
ufro did procesTan xom ar gvaqvs<br />
saqme, vidre ubralod am xelisuflebis<br />
mavnebluri poli-<br />
tikis rigiT SedegTan?<br />
_ kriminaluri qselebi iqmneba<br />
iq, sadac amis SesaZleblobaa. rogorc<br />
Cans, am qselebs CvenTan advilad<br />
qmnian da, albaT, uvizo mimosvlis<br />
erT-erTi Sedegi isic<br />
aris, rom gaadvilda am xalxis<br />
gadaadgileba da es problema Zalian<br />
male gamovlinda. rac Seexeba<br />
mizezebs, isev xelisuflebis politikas<br />
davadanaSauleb, imitom<br />
rom es aris xelisufleba, romelmac<br />
masobrivi amnistia gamoacxada,<br />
romelic dResac eyrdnoba ar-<br />
Cevnebis dros kriminalur dajgufebebs<br />
da Zalian aqtiurad iyenebs<br />
maT sakuTari politikuri Zalauflebis<br />
SenarCunebisTvis. es aris<br />
xelisufleba, romlis Zalian ma-<br />
Rali eSelonis warmomadgenlebi<br />
SemCneuli arian kriminalur samyarosTan<br />
kavSirSi da cnobilia<br />
maTi kavSirebis Sesaxeb organizebul<br />
TanaSaulTan. ase rom, rodesac<br />
aseTi Semadgenlobis xelisufleba<br />
gyavs saTaveSi, ra Tqma unda,<br />
kriminali gaZlierdeba da es<br />
aris xelisuflebis mier gatarebuli<br />
politikis Sedegi. arsebobs<br />
cirkularuli migraciis proeqti,<br />
romelSic saqarTvelo Tu miiRebs<br />
monawileobas, es SesaZlebels gaxdis,<br />
rom Cvenma moqalaqeebma legalurad<br />
moipovon evropaSi moklevadiani<br />
samuSao ufleba. Tu<br />
saqarTvelo CaerTveba am proces-<br />
Si, garkveuli xalxisTvis garkveuli<br />
pirobebiT iarsebebs evropaSi<br />
muSaobis legaluri ufleba, garkveuli<br />
tipis samuSaoebze. vfiqrob,<br />
rom es asaTvisebeli SesaZleblobaa,<br />
rac SeiZleba meti adamiani,<br />
visac aqvs amis survili da SesaZleboba,<br />
legalurad wavides da<br />
imuSaos. Tumca, ra Tqma unda, mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom aq Seiqmnas samuSao<br />
adgilebi da Cveni moqalaqeebi<br />
aq cxovrobdnen.<br />
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mixeil basilaZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi<br />
ix. „qronika+“ #3;4.<br />
saqarTvelos gasabWoebisTvis<br />
mzadeba bolSevikurma ruseTma, jer<br />
kidev, 1920 wlis maisSi daiwyo. ruse-<br />
Tis komunisturi partiis kavkasiis<br />
biuros xelmZRvaneli, sergo orjonikiZe,<br />
moskovisgan daJinebiT iTxovda<br />
saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg samxedro<br />
operaciis Catarebis nebarTvas,<br />
magram saerTaSoriso mdgomareobis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT, ruseTi am<br />
nabijisgan Tavs ikavebda.<br />
1921 wlis ianvris miwuruls saerTaSoriso<br />
viTareba ruseTis sasargeblod<br />
Seicvala. bolSevikebma,<br />
faqtobrivad, daasrules did britaneTTan<br />
molaparakeba, romelsac<br />
or qveyanas Soris savaWro-ekonomikur<br />
sferoSi mWidro urTierTobis<br />
damyareba unda mohyoloda. am TanamSromlobis<br />
sanacvlod, ruseTi<br />
centralur aziaSi didi britaneTis<br />
interesebs upirobod cnobda. Tavis<br />
mxriv, londoni aRiarebda, rom kavkasia<br />
ruseTis Sida politikis saqmes<br />
warmoadgenda. ruseTma farul<br />
SeTanxmebas TurqeTTanac miaRwia.<br />
aTaTurqis mTavroba saqarTvelos<br />
istoriul kuTxes _ tao-klarjeTs<br />
iTxovda. 1921 wlis ianvarSi sabolood<br />
gairkva, rom Tu TurqeTi ardaganis,<br />
arTvinisa da olTisis olqebs<br />
miiRebda, igi saqarTvelos Zalismieri<br />
gasabWoebis winaaRmdegi ar iqneboda.<br />
28 ianvars saqarTvelos gasabWoebis<br />
sakiTxi sabolood gadawyda. amis<br />
Taobaze stalinma orjonikiZes Sesabamisi<br />
depeSis saSualebiT acnoba:<br />
„cekam miiRo gadawyvetileba gawios<br />
mosamzadebeli muSaoba im varaudiT,<br />
rom SesaZloa saWiro Seiqmnes samxedro<br />
Careva da saqarTvelos okupacia.<br />
gadawyda agreTve SekiTxva gaugzavnon<br />
kavkasiis fronts Cveni samxedro<br />
Zalebis mdgomareobaze, imaze<br />
Tu ra Zalebi dagvWirdeba kidev,<br />
rom ueWvelad davamarcxoT saqar-<br />
Tvelo, Torem trocki irwmuneba,<br />
rom Tqvens frontze Cven erTob<br />
susti varTo. Cems saxelze gamoagzavne<br />
cnoba, SegviZlia Tu ara viqonioT<br />
sruli gamarjvebis imedi Zal-<br />
Ta arsebuli raodenobiT. me da<br />
iliCi veliT Sengan zust, gauzviadebel<br />
cnobebs”.<br />
saqarTvelos okupacia XI wiTeli<br />
armiis Zalebis saSualebiT daigegma,<br />
romlis SemadgenlobaSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
30 aTasi qveiTi jariskaci<br />
da 4 aTasamde cxenosani iricxeboda.<br />
es armia, rusebis garda, sxva nacionalur<br />
nawilebsac aerTianebda.<br />
aq imyofeboda Crdilo kavkasielebisgan<br />
Sedgenili SariaTis kolona;<br />
baqos muslimTa polki; CerqezTa<br />
wiTel partizanTa polki; yazax-Sam-<br />
Sadinis somxuri polki; Cinel moxaliseTa<br />
batalioni.<br />
sergo orjonikiZis iniciativiT,<br />
XI armiaSi qarTuli polkic Camoyalibda,<br />
romelsac giorgi baramiZe xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
polkis komisari<br />
tarasi mgalobliSvili iyo. es nawili<br />
700 kacs iTvlida, aqedan 80%<br />
erovnebiT qarTveli iyo. sayurad-<br />
Reboa, rom qarTulma polkma samxedro<br />
fici baqoSi 1920 wlis 26 maiss,<br />
anu saqarTvelos damoukideblobis<br />
dRes miiRo. ficis teqsti<br />
Semdegi iyo: „Cven pirobas vaZlevT<br />
amierkavkasiis proletariats, mker-<br />
14<br />
diT davicvaT amierkavkasiis mSromelTa<br />
ganTavisuflebis saqme. mivdivarT<br />
ra mxardamxar saxelovani ruseTis<br />
wiTel armiasTan erTad, Cven<br />
davamsxvrevT da gavanadgurebT mSvidobiani<br />
Sromis damonebisa da<br />
Cagvris borkilebs. Cven daSnakebs,<br />
menSevikebsa da mTel burJuaziul<br />
xrovas xelidan gamovtacebT da gavaTavisuflebT<br />
Cvens Zmebs – amierkavkasiis<br />
muSebsa da glexebs.<br />
gaumarjos sabWoTa saqarTvelos da<br />
somxeTs! gaumarjos komunizms!”<br />
qarTulma wiTelma polkma sabrZolo<br />
naTloba 1920 wlis ivlisSi<br />
miiRo. komunistebma es nawili SemaxaSi<br />
azerbaijanelTa antisabWoTa<br />
ajanyebis Casaqrobad gamoiyenes.<br />
1920 wlis meore naxevarSi da 1921<br />
wlis damdegs qarTuli kompartiis<br />
9 aTasi wevridan mniSvnelovani nawili<br />
saqarTvelos farglebs gareT<br />
cxovrobda. respublikis winaaRmdeg<br />
warmoebuli ZirgamomTxreli saqmianobis<br />
gamo saqarTvelos mTavrobam<br />
isini qveynidan gaaZeva. maTma Ziri-<br />
Tadma nawilma sabWoTa azerbaijanis<br />
dedaqalaq baqos Seafara Tavi. swored<br />
es jgufi amzadebda saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg samxedro intervencias.<br />
am jgufSi Sediodnen l. dumbaZe, g.<br />
sturua, s. mamulia, m. kaxiani, v. ZnelaZe,<br />
e. kvantaliani, v. baxtaZe, n. kiknaZe.<br />
saqarTveloze Tavdasxmamde wi-<br />
Telarmielebs Sesabamisi ideologiuri<br />
damuSaveba utardebodaT. amis<br />
dasturia 1921 wlis Tebervlis<br />
dasawyisSi XI armiis gazeTSi gamoqveynebuli<br />
statia, saTauriT „ajanyebis<br />
win”. am statiaSi ganmartebulia,<br />
Tu ratom iyo saWiro saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg samxedro operaciis<br />
Catareba: „saqarTveloSi SeWris<br />
sababi SeiZleba gaxdes: 1. mSromel-<br />
Ta masebSi saqarTvelos komunisturi<br />
partiis avtoritetisa da gavlenis<br />
zrda; 2. qveyanaSi Sida krizisis<br />
gamwvaveba; 3. menSevikuri mTavrobis<br />
sijiute urTierTobis mSvidobiani<br />
gziT mogvarebasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT; 4. saqarTvelos muSaTa da<br />
glexTa masebis mzadyofna burJuaziul-menSevikuri,<br />
antisaxalxo<br />
diqtaturis dasamxobad”.<br />
1921 wlis 11 Tebervals, bolSevikuri<br />
agresiis dawyebisas, lores<br />
raionSi, daaxloebiT, 8-aTasiani qar-<br />
Tuli SenaerTi idga. sasazRvro<br />
sofel voroncovkas misadgomebs 3<br />
aTasi jariskaci amagrebda, Sagalisadaxlos<br />
ubans ki 5-aTaskaciani dajgufeba<br />
icavda. aq iyo me-2 saarmio<br />
brigadis sami polki, erTi saartilerio<br />
polki, kavaleriis ori eskadroni<br />
da saxalxo gvardiis ramdenime<br />
nawili.<br />
samxedro agresia lores raionSi<br />
1921 wlis<br />
16 Tebervals ruseTi saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg pirdapir samxedro<br />
agresiaze gadmovida. Setevis nebar-<br />
Tva kavbiurom moskovidan, jer<br />
kidev, 14 Tebervals miiRo. saidumlo<br />
Setyobinebas xels Tavad lenini<br />
awerda: „ceka Tanaxmaa, neba darTos<br />
me-11 armias aqtiurad dauWiros mxari<br />
saqarTveloSi momxdar ajanyebas<br />
da daikavos Tbilisi, Tu daicavs<br />
saerTaSoriso normebs da im pirobas,<br />
rom me-11 armiis revoluciuri<br />
samxedro sabWos yvela wevri yvela<br />
monacemis seriozuli ganxilvis Semdeg<br />
warmatebas aRgviTqvams. gafrTxilebT,<br />
rom transportis uqonlobis<br />
gamo upurod vsxedvarT da verc<br />
erT vagons ver mogcemT. iZulebulebi<br />
varT, kavkasiidan marto puri<br />
da navTi vzidoT. moviTxovT, dauyovnebliv<br />
gvipasuxoT pirdapiri<br />
mavTuliT, pasuxs xeli moaweros me-<br />
11 armiis revoluciuri sabWos yvela<br />
wevrma”.<br />
am Setyobinebidan meore dRes, 15<br />
Tebervals, orjonikiZem kremlidan<br />
kidev erTi saidumlo depeSa miiRo,<br />
romelic ganmartavda Tu ra sababiT<br />
unda emoqmeda me-11 armias saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg: „cekas miaCnia, rom<br />
me-11 armiis revoluciuri samxedro<br />
sabWos operaciebi neitraluri zonis<br />
ajanyebulTa dacvaa TeTrgvardielTa<br />
mxriv mosalodneli ganadgurebisagan.<br />
angariSi gauwieT Tqveni<br />
operaciis am politikur xasiaTs<br />
yvela Tqvens sajaro gamosvlaSi. ra<br />
Tqma unda, Cven me-11 armiis revoluciuri<br />
samxedro sabWosagan moveliT<br />
energiul da swraf moqmedebas, romelic<br />
imasac ki ar moerideba, rom<br />
Tbilisi aiRos, Tu es saWiro gaxdeba<br />
samxedro mosazrebebiT...”<br />
me-11 armiam saqarTvelos sazRvari<br />
ramdenime adgilas gadakveTa. ZiriTadi<br />
Semtevi diviziebi aRstafa-<br />
Si iyo Tavmoyrili. aqedan Tbilisze<br />
umoklesi gza gadioda. bolSevikeb-<br />
wiTeli laqa<br />
saqarTvelos<br />
istoriaSi<br />
imitirebuli saxalxo ajanyebiT daiwyo,<br />
romelsac profesionali revolucioneri,<br />
axalcixis mkvidri<br />
ioseb laziani xelmZRvanelobda. laziani<br />
baqos komunis aqtiuri monawile<br />
iyo da orjonikiZes piradad icnobda.<br />
1920 wlis noemberSi, somxe-<br />
Tis gasabWoebis Semdeg, igi somxeTis<br />
wiTeli armiis politganyofilebis<br />
ufrosis moadgiled dainiSna da<br />
loreSi ajanyebis momzadeba daevala.<br />
lazianis mTavar amocanas Sagalis<br />
strategiuli xidis dakaveba<br />
warmoadgenda, romlis saSualebi-<br />
Tac wiTeli armiis nawilebi daubrkoleblad<br />
Semovidodnen saqar-<br />
Tvelos teritoriaze.<br />
11 Tebervlis Rames lazianis<br />
razmi daba SagaliSi Tavs daesxa<br />
qarTvel mesazRvreebs da, praqtikulad,<br />
ubrZolvelad daikava strategiuli<br />
obieqti. amis Semdeg saqmeSi<br />
CaerTo wiTeli armiis regularuli<br />
nawilebi. saerTo jamSi, qarTuli<br />
sasazRvro nawilebis winaaRmdeg<br />
loreSi bolSevikTa sami qveiTi da<br />
kavaleriis ori divizia, somxeTis<br />
sabWoTa respublikis me-5 da me-6<br />
polkebi da erTi cxenosanTa polki<br />
moqmedebda.<br />
wiTlebis moulodneli Tavdasxmis<br />
Sedegad qarTuli sasazRvro nawilebi<br />
TiTqmis mTlianad ganadgurda.<br />
13 Tebervals general gedevaniSvilis<br />
mier naCqarevad dawyebulma<br />
Setevam Sedegi ar gamoiRo. mowinaaRmdege<br />
kontrieriSze gadmovida<br />
da daba sadaxloc daikava. 14 Tebervals<br />
wiTlebi ukve SulaverSi Sevidnen.<br />
bolSevikebs Tbilisisken gza<br />
gaexsnaT. lores mcveli qarTuli<br />
jari mTlianad daiSala. jariskac-<br />
Ta nawili Tbilisisken uwesrigod<br />
ixevda, nawili ganadgurda, an tyved<br />
Cavarda, danarCenma ki iaraRi dayara.<br />
1921 wlis 16 Tebervals wiTeli<br />
armiis mier dakavebul SulaverSi<br />
saqarTvelos revoluciuri komiteti<br />
Camoyalibda. Sulaveris revkoms<br />
erTaderTi mizani hqonda _ maTi<br />
meSveobiT bolSevikebi saqarTvelo-<br />
Si SemoWris gamarTlebas cdilobdnen.<br />
komunistTa strategia Semdegi<br />
iyo: saqarTvelos revkomis moTxovnis<br />
safuZvelze sabWoTa ruseTs<br />
samxedro daxmareba unda gaewia lores<br />
raionSi saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
winaaRmdeg ajanyebuli mSromelebisTvis.<br />
saqarTvelos revkomis SemadgenlobaSi<br />
Sediodnen: filipe maxaraZe,<br />
mamia oraxelaSvili, budu mdivani,<br />
Salva eliava, mixeil okujava, lado<br />
dumbaZe, aleqsandre gegeWkori, besarion<br />
kvirkvelia. pirvelive sxdomaze,<br />
romelic 16 Tebervals SulaverSive<br />
gaimarTa, revkomma lenins<br />
daxmarebis Txovna gaugzavna: „saqarTvelos<br />
revoluciuri komiteti,<br />
romelic iSva menSevikebis kontrrevoluciuri<br />
mTavrobis winaaRmdeg<br />
xalxis masebis ajanyebis cecxlsa da<br />
kvamlSi, aRfrTovanebul salams ugzavnis<br />
didi proletaruli revoluciis<br />
belads. saerTaSoriso imperializmis<br />
mier sami wlis manZilze<br />
nasazrdoebma menSevikebis mTavrobam<br />
mSromelTa dasaTrgunavad sakuTari<br />
policiuri da samxedro aparati Seqmna,<br />
magram xalxis masebis ukanaskneli<br />
ajanyeba Zlevamosili aRmoCnda.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis dasaxmareblad<br />
iswrafian evropis reaqciis<br />
Zalebi. gaerTianebuli Savi laSqris<br />
winaaRmdegobis gaweva mxolod SeerTebul<br />
wiTel socialistur<br />
laSqars SeuZlia. Cven vimedovnebT,<br />
rom diadi proletaruli revoluciis<br />
qveyana ar dagvtovebs uTanasworo<br />
brZolaSi da daxmarebas aRmouCens<br />
axlad Sobil saqarTvelos<br />
socialistur sabWoTa respublikas”.<br />
saqarTvelos damfuZnebelma krebam<br />
sagangebo sxdomaze Sulaveris<br />
revkomis Sesaxeb specialuri dadgenileba<br />
miiRo, sadac qarTveli<br />
bolSevikebi qveynis moRalateebad<br />
gamoacxada: „iRebs ra mxedvelobaSi,<br />
rom saqarTveloze TavdasxmaSi monawileobas<br />
iReben qarTveli xalxis<br />
uRirsi Svilni, damfuZnebeli kreba<br />
adgens: yvela qarTveli, romelic<br />
uSualo monawileobas iReben SeiaraRebul<br />
brZolaSi saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg<br />
an daxmarebas uweven am brZolas,<br />
gamocxadebulni arian qarTveli<br />
xalxis moRalateebad. maT erTmevad<br />
yovelive qoneba da kanons gareSe<br />
arian gamocxadebulni. am dadgenilebis<br />
sisruleSi moyvana evaleba<br />
mTavrobas. eseni arian: filipe<br />
maxaraZe, mamia oraxelaSvili, budu<br />
mdivani, Salva eliava, miSa okujava,<br />
lado dumbaZe, faiki, nazareTiani,<br />
saSa gegeWkori, beso kvirkvelia”.<br />
sergo orjonikiZe<br />
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Tebervali<br />
is es dajgufeba foilosa da wiTel<br />
xidebs utevda da baqo-Tbilisis<br />
strategiuli sarkinigzo xazis xelSi<br />
Cagdebas cdilobda. mTavari mimarTulebis<br />
paralelurad, wiTeli<br />
armiis nawilebi saqarTvelos somxeTidanac<br />
utevdnen. yara-kilisidan<br />
da diliJanidan bolSevikebma ieri-<br />
Si lores raionze miitanes. me-11<br />
armiis mesame nawili saqarTveloSi<br />
ganjidan da nuxidan SemoiWra. samive<br />
dajgufeba Tbilisis misadgomebTan<br />
unda SeerTebuliyo. saqarTvelos<br />
winaaRmdeg moqmedebda bolSevikebis<br />
me-9 armiac. misi SenaerTebi afxazeTis<br />
teritoriaze Sevidnen, nawilma<br />
ki mamisonisa da rokis uReltexilebi<br />
gadakveTa.<br />
16 Tebervals gamTeniisas XI armiam<br />
foilosa da wiTel xidebs Seutia.<br />
am operacias XI armiis samxedro revoluciuri<br />
komitetis wevri Salva<br />
eliava xelmZRvanelobda. foilos<br />
sarkinigzo xids gansakuTrebuli<br />
mniSvneloba eniWeboda – misi saSualebiT<br />
rusebi Tbilisis mimarTulebiT<br />
cocxali Zalisa da teqnikis<br />
swraf gadaadgilebas SeZlebdnen.<br />
Tumca xidis mcvelma razmma xidi<br />
aafeTqa da masze moZraoba SeuZlebeli<br />
gaxda. am dabrkolebam wiTeli<br />
armia mxolod droebiT Seakava.<br />
17 Tebervals mteri ukve Tbiliss<br />
moadga. dedaqalaqis Tavdacvis<br />
xazi sam ZiriTad raionad iyofoda:<br />
marjvena frTa sofel kojridan TeleTis<br />
monastramde gadioda. am<br />
monakveTs generali andronikaSvili<br />
xelmZRvanelobda. mis gankarguleba-<br />
Si oTxi saarmio polki da gvardiis<br />
oTxi batalioni iyo. andronikaSvils<br />
emorCileboda tabaxmelaSi ganlagebuli<br />
iunkerTa saswavlebelic.<br />
meore seqtori, soRanluRis raioni<br />
_ general giorgi mazniaSvils<br />
ebara da is mdinare mtkvridan sofel<br />
TeleTamde monakveTs moicavda.<br />
am xazs armiis sami qveiTi polki,<br />
gvardiis, daaxloebiT, 5 batalioni<br />
da javSnosani matarebeli icavda.<br />
marcxena frTis dacvas gvardiis<br />
generali jijixia meTurobda. frontis<br />
xazi aq mdinare mtkvris macxena<br />
sanapirodan sofel lilomde midioda<br />
da mas, ZiriTadad, gvardiis nawilebi<br />
icavdnen.<br />
pirveli seriozuli Seteva bol-<br />
Sevikebma 17 Tebervlis Rames soRanluRis<br />
mimarTulebiT ganaxorcieles.<br />
wiTeli armiis nawilebma iaRlujis<br />
maRlobebs Semouares da<br />
qarTul poziciebze swrafi ieriSi<br />
miitanes. mteri soRanluRis xidis,<br />
sadgurisa da gzatkecilis xelSi<br />
Cagdebas da TbilisSi SeWras varaudobda,<br />
magram rusebma Sedegs ver miaRwies.<br />
gamTeniisas qarTuli batalionebi<br />
kontrieriSze gadavidnen, ris<br />
Sedegadac rusulma diviziam mZime<br />
marcxi ganicada. marto tyveebis saxiT<br />
qarTvelebma 1600 wiTelarmieli<br />
aiyvanes.<br />
lokaluri warmatebis miuxedavad<br />
frontze mdgomareoba mainc ar<br />
Secvlila. Seqmnili mZime mdgomareobis<br />
gamo saqarTvelos mTavrobam<br />
evakuaciis samzadisi daiwyo. yvela<br />
ministri da saministroTa qoneba<br />
dedaqalaqidan quTaisSi gadadioda.<br />
TbilisSi mxolod mTavrobis Tavmjdomare<br />
noe Jordania, sagareo ministris<br />
TanaSemwe sabaxtaraSvili,<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa ministri noe ramiSvili<br />
da damfuZnebeli krebis wevrebi<br />
rCebodnen. rkinigzis sadgurSi<br />
winaswar momzadda sami matarebeli,<br />
romelTac, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tbilisidan damfuZnebeli kreba,<br />
mTavroba da mTavarsardali unda<br />
gaeyvana. saevakuaciod amzadebdnen<br />
qveynis savaluto marags, erovnul<br />
saganZurs, samTavrobo da saidumlo<br />
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dokumentacias.<br />
dedaqalaqis SesaZlo datovebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, mTavrobam Sesabamisi<br />
brZaneba gamouSva, romelic<br />
mTel saqarTveloSi daigzavna:<br />
„saqarTvelos qalaqebs, erobebs,<br />
Temebs, gvardiis Stabebsa da baTumis<br />
sagangebo rwmunebuls, afxaze-<br />
Tis komisariats. gatyobinebT, rom<br />
SeiZleba Cven strategiuli mosazrebiT<br />
davstovoT Tfilisi, magram<br />
icodeT, rom es aris omis ara<br />
dasasruli, aramed dasawyisi. swored<br />
maSin daiwyeba saqarTvelos saxalxo<br />
omi TfilisisaTvin da saqar-<br />
TvelosTvin. Cven davtovebT Tfiliss<br />
mxolod imitom, rom isev aq SevideT<br />
samudamod. mogiwodebT, gaa-<br />
ZlieroT samxedro muSaoba, gamougzavnoT<br />
mTavrobas axal-axali laSqari<br />
da Cven mters sabolovoT gavstexT”.<br />
1921 wlis 21 Tebervals saqarTvelos<br />
mdgomareoba kidev ufro<br />
gauaresda. TurqeTma saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobas arTvinisa da ardaganis<br />
olqebis dacla mosTxova. aTaTurqis<br />
xelisufleba ruseTTan SeTanxmebuli<br />
gegmiT moqmedebda, romlis<br />
mixedviTac ruseTi saqarTveloSi<br />
sabWoTa reJims amyarebda,<br />
xolo TurqeTi saqarTvelos istoriul<br />
provinciebs _ ardagansa da<br />
arTvins ierTebda.<br />
Jordanias xelisufleba, romelic<br />
gamouval mdgomareobaSi imyofeboda,<br />
ardaganisa da arTvinis gadacemas<br />
im pirobiT daTanxmda, rom<br />
TurqeTi ruseTis winaaRmdeg saqar-<br />
Tvelos mxardaWeras aRmouCenda.<br />
aTaTurqis mTavroba molaparakebebze<br />
dros welavda da am pirobis Sesrulebas<br />
saerTod ar apirebda.<br />
21 Tebervals TurqeTma ardagansa<br />
da arTvinSi sakuTari jarebis<br />
Seyvana daiwyo. qarTulma SenaerTebma<br />
saqarTvelos istoriuli kuTxe<br />
brZolis gareSe datoves. ardaganisa<br />
da arTvinis gadacemasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
mTavrobam mosaxleobaSi specialuri<br />
mimarTva gaavrcela: „moqalaqeno!<br />
somxebisa da rusebis jarebi<br />
TfilisTan saSinlad damarcxdnen,<br />
Cveni saxelovani jari da gvardia<br />
mas, damarcxebuls misdevs, magram<br />
saSiSroebas kidev ar gauvlia, brZola<br />
exla daiwyo. am dros erTma Cvenma<br />
mezobelma angoras mTavrobam<br />
sadaoT gaxada arTvinis da artaanis<br />
olqebis sakiTxi. Cven yovelTvis<br />
gulwrfeli megobruli mezobloba<br />
gvindoda da gvinda angoris mTavrobasTan,<br />
rom ar dairRves es kargi<br />
mezobeli ganwyobileba, Cveni mTavroba<br />
dasTanxmda arTvinisa da artaanis<br />
olqebis daclaze da iq mmarTvelobis<br />
angoris xelSi gadacemaze.<br />
Cven gvjera, rom miudgomeli<br />
saerTaSoriso sasamarTlo mSvidobiani<br />
gziT gadaswyvets am olqebis<br />
sakiTxs ise, rom dacul iqneba<br />
saqarTvelos sasicocxlo interesebi.<br />
Tqven, moqalaqeno, mogiwodebT<br />
daicvaT wesiereba da ganagrZeT<br />
Tqveni yoveldRiuri mSvidobiani<br />
muSaoba”.<br />
TbilisSi komendantis saaTi gamocxadda,<br />
romelic saRamos 10<br />
saaTidan dilis 6 saaTamde moqmedebda.<br />
ikrZaleboda quCebSi Sekreba da<br />
mitingebi. SeizRuda spirtiani sasmelebiT<br />
vaWroba. daiwyo sayovel-<br />
Tao mobilizacia: „Tanaxmad saqarTvelos<br />
respublikis Tavdacvis sab-<br />
Wos dadgenilebisa, gamocxadebulia<br />
mobilizacia respublikis yvela moqalaqeebisa<br />
40 wlamdis, garda rusebisa.<br />
mobilizaciis pirvel dReT daniSnulia<br />
21 Tebervali; amitom aRniSnuli<br />
wlovanebis mcxovrebni qalaq<br />
tfilisSi unda gamocxadden 21<br />
Tebervals dilis 9 saaTze tfilisis<br />
samxedro aRricxvis ufrosis<br />
sammarTveloSi”.<br />
22 Tebervals bolSevikebma foilos<br />
dazianebuli sarkinigzo xidi<br />
aRadgines. aRdgeniT samuSaoebs qarTveli<br />
komunisti mixeil beburiSvili<br />
xelmZRvanelobda. am xidis sa-<br />
SualebiT rusebma brZolaSi javSniani<br />
matareblebi CarTes da frontze<br />
damatebiTi cocxali Zalis gadasrola<br />
moaxerxes. sabolood, ruseTma<br />
Tbilisis frontze mniSvnelovan upiratesobas<br />
miaRwia da qalaqs alyis<br />
safrTxe daemuqra. Seqmnil viTarebaSi<br />
mTavarsardalma, generalma<br />
giorgi kvinitaZem 24 Tebervlis sa-<br />
Ramos dedaqalaqis datovebis gadawyvetileba<br />
miiRo.<br />
25 Tebervals, Ramis sami saaTisaTvis,<br />
qarTuli jaris TiTqmis yvela<br />
nawili Tbilisidan ukve gasuli<br />
iyo. gamTeniisas, daaxloebiT xuTi<br />
saaTisaTvis, qalaqi qarTuli jarisgan<br />
mTlianad daicala. yvelaze bolos<br />
Tbilisidan iunkerTa samxedro<br />
skola gavida.<br />
25 Tebervals, dRis 12 saaTsa da<br />
15 wuTze, kojris gzidan TbilisSi<br />
wiTeli armia Semovida. qalaqi velokanovis<br />
me-20 diviziis nawilebma daikaves.<br />
yvelaze win TeTr cxenze amxedrebuli<br />
saqarTvelos revkomis wevri<br />
_ Salva eliava modioda. mis ukan<br />
wiTeli droSa qarTvel komunist<br />
mixeil beburiSvils mohqonda. imave<br />
dRes, navTluRis mxridan, wiTeli<br />
armiis meore nawili gamoCnda, romelsac<br />
mamia oraxelaSvili miuZRoda.<br />
Seiqmna saqarTvelos revoluciuri<br />
komiteti, romelmac qalaqis<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis yofil SenobaSi<br />
daido bina. mis SemadgenlobaSi Sevidnen:<br />
silibistro Todria, baron<br />
bibineiSvili, nikoloz okujava, suxiSvili,<br />
vaSakiZe, nucubiZe, vardaniani,<br />
gorgasliZe, Saxsuvarovi. moskovidan<br />
filipe maxariaZis Camosvlamde<br />
revkomis Tavmjdomared droebiT<br />
dainiSna mamia oraxelaSvili.<br />
saqarTvelos revkomis mier 1921<br />
wlis 25 Tebervals gamocemuli<br />
pirveli brZaneba Semdegi iyo: „saqarTvelos<br />
yofili mTavroba Jordanias<br />
meTaurobiT, romelic daamxo<br />
masebis ajanyebam, oficerTa da<br />
iunkerTa razmebis damarcxebis Semdeg<br />
gadavida dasavleT saqarTvelo-<br />
Si. sabWoTa socialisturi saqarTvelos<br />
revoluciuri komiteti, romelic<br />
dRes dedaqalaqSi Camovida,<br />
Tavis xelSi iRebs saxelmwifo xelisuflebas<br />
da brZanebs: saqarTvelos<br />
damxobili mTavrobis winaaRmdeg<br />
brZola, Tu igi ar dagvnebda,<br />
unda gagrZeldes Seunelebeli energiiT”.<br />
saRamos 10 saaTidan TbilisSi<br />
komendantis saaTi gamocxadda. qalaqSi<br />
patrulireba da wesrigis damyareba<br />
baqos wiTel kursantTa polks<br />
daekisra. imave dRes velikanovma<br />
Semdegi Sinaarsis specialuri mimarTva<br />
gaavrcela: „brZaneba tfilisis<br />
mimarTulebis jarebisadmi.<br />
tfilisi, 1921 wlis 25 Tebervali.<br />
ama ricxvs Cemdami rwmunebulma<br />
jarma 12 saaTze da 15 wuTze daikava<br />
qalaqi tfilisi, wiTeli armielebis,<br />
kamandirebisa da komisrebis<br />
gmiruli moqmedeba mZime uTanasworo<br />
brZolaSi gamarjvebiT dagvirgvinda.<br />
qalaqi tfilisi _ burJuaziis<br />
ukanaskneli _ simagre daeca da<br />
saqarTvelo gamocxadebulia sabWo-<br />
Ta respublikad. saukuno xseneba<br />
daxocil meomrebs da dideba cocxal<br />
meomrebs, romlebmac gmiruli<br />
SeteviT Tebervlis 24-s, mZime da<br />
uTanasworo brZolaSi sZlies mtris<br />
winaaRmdegoba da aiRes qalaqi tfilisi”.<br />
1921 wlis 25 Tebervals sergo<br />
orjonikiZem baqodan moskovSi sagangebo<br />
depeSa gaagzavna: „tfilisze<br />
sabWoTa xelisuflebis droSa frialebs.<br />
gaumarjos sabWoTa saqarTvelos”.<br />
revkomis davalebiT, velikanovs<br />
qalaqSi marodiorebis winaaRmdeg<br />
umkacresi zomebi unda mieRo, magram<br />
miuxedavad amisa, TbilisSi Semosuli<br />
wiTelarmielebi qalaqis Zarcvaze<br />
gadavidnen. saqarTvelos damfuZnebeli<br />
krebis wevri vlasa mgelaZe<br />
im drois TbilisSi arsebul vi-<br />
Tarebas Tavis mogonebebSi ase aRwers:<br />
„ruseTidan SemoWrili damSeuli<br />
jarebi saxelmwifo dawesebulebebSi<br />
dabanakda, kerZo binebze da<br />
ojaxebSi moTavsda. yovelgvari avejeuloba<br />
da ojaxis samkaulebi avtomobilebiT<br />
Tfilisis sadgurze<br />
dRidan-Ramianad gahqondaT. vagoneb-<br />
Si agrovebdnen, ruseTSi agzavnidnen.<br />
jari Seesia samxedro sawyobebs.<br />
iqidan farajebi, fexsacmelebi gamoitanes,<br />
TavianT dafleTil farajebs,<br />
daglejil fexsacmels quCaSi<br />
xalxis win ixdidnen, iqve yridnen da<br />
axliT imosebodnen. ojaxebSi moTavsebuli<br />
jariskacebi SeSis magier<br />
buxrebs magidebiT, kamodebiT an-<br />
Tebdnen. yvela sanovage xileuloba,<br />
yveli, Tevzeuloba, xizilala, saufliswulo<br />
mamulebis ganTqmuli<br />
sardafebi da kaxuri Rvino boWkebiT<br />
da boTlebiT gazides, Tbilisis<br />
sadgurze gaitanes, ramdenime<br />
aseul vagonebSi Caawyves, dabeWdes<br />
da zed daaweres: ‘Tfilisis proletariatisagan<br />
ruseTis proletariats<br />
da mis belads lenins saCuqraT~.<br />
27 Tebervals sergo orjonikiZes<br />
sruliad ruseTis centraluri<br />
aRmasrulebeli komitetis dadgenilebiT<br />
wiTeli droSis ordeni gadasces.<br />
ordens Semdegi warwera<br />
hqonda: „Tbilisis aRebisaTvis”.<br />
1921 wlis 23 marts qalaq Tbilisis<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis yofil SenobaSi,<br />
sadac saqarTvelos revkomi<br />
iyo ganlagebuli, sazeimo ceremonia<br />
gaimarTa, romelsac revkomis Tavmjdomare<br />
filipe maxaraZe xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
maxaraZem madloba gadauxada<br />
wiTel armias gmiruli brZolisTvisa<br />
da saqarTvelos gasabWoebaSi<br />
Setanili wvlilisaTvis me-11<br />
armiis sardali anatoli gekeri vercxlis<br />
xmliT daajildova: „Tqveni<br />
damsaxurebis aRsaniSnavad saqarTvelos<br />
revoluciuri komiteti gTxovT<br />
miiRoT es xmali, rogorc Tqveni<br />
sabrZolo gmirobis simbolo. gisurvebT<br />
Semdgom warmatebebs mSromeli<br />
masebis ganTavisuflebisaTvis<br />
brZolis sarbielze da wiTeli dro-<br />
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mikuri TvalsazrisiT saqarTvelo<br />
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is im pirobiT miiRes, rom<br />
Tavis valdebulebas Seasrulebs.<br />
garda amisa, saerTaSoriso<br />
samarTalSi arsebobs xelSekrulebis<br />
keTilsindisierad Sesrulebis<br />
principebi (10 prin-<br />
cips Soris yvelaze mTavaria),<br />
romelsac ruseTi am SemTxveva-<br />
Sic ar asrulebs, amis Sesaxeb<br />
ki saerTaSoriso sazogadoebas<br />
aucileblad unda ecnobos. sanqciebi<br />
isedac SemoRebulia<br />
ruseTis mimarT da maT gamkacrebazec<br />
unda iyos saubari<br />
(ekonomikur sanqciebs vgulisxmob,<br />
pirvel rigSi).<br />
am SeTanxmebaSi kidev erTi<br />
ramea mniSvnelovani, mimaCnia,<br />
rom rokis gvirabis gavliT ar<br />
unda moxdes tvirTebis transportireba<br />
mesame saxelmwifo-<br />
Si.<br />
ar mgonia, rokis gvirabi damatebiT<br />
funqcias asrulebdes<br />
zemo larsTan erTad, raTa ruseTidan<br />
somxeTis, an azerbaijanis,<br />
an TurqeTis mimarTulebiT<br />
saqarTvelos teritoriis<br />
gavliT gavides tvirTebi. amis<br />
sastiki winaaRmdegi var, radgan<br />
im saqonels qarTuli sasaqonle<br />
niSnebi ar eqnebaT! erTaderTi<br />
legitimuri sabaJo da<br />
sasazRvro punqti saqarTvelosa<br />
da ruseTs Soris es aris<br />
zemo larsi. tvirTebis gadaadgileba<br />
ruseTidan sxva qveynebis<br />
mimarTulebiT swored aqedan<br />
unda moxdes.<br />
rac Seexeba vmo-s fargleb-<br />
Si aRebul valdebulebas, saqarTvelo<br />
unda iyos informirebuli<br />
im tvirTebze, romelTac<br />
gadakveTes ruseT-saqarTvelos<br />
sazRvari. meore mxriv, mgonia,<br />
rom Tu ruseTi arRvevs vmo-s<br />
principebs, sanqciebi unda<br />
gamkacrdes rusul saeqsporto<br />
saqonelze. vmo-s wevrebma unda<br />
moixsnan yvela valdebuleba<br />
ruseTis winaSe.<br />
saqarTvelo-ruseTis urTierTobaSi<br />
kidev erTi sakiTxia<br />
_ Cven gvinda Tu ara, ruseTi<br />
2017 wlis monacemebiT saqarTvelosTvis<br />
#2 savaWro ekonomikuri<br />
partnioria da Cven Soris<br />
savaWro brunvam 1 mlrd aSS<br />
dolars gadaaWarba, amitomac<br />
es zrdis saqarTvelos damokidebulebas<br />
ruseTze ara mxolod<br />
ekonomikurad, aramed politikuradac<br />
_ es garemoebac<br />
gasaTvaliswinebelia).<br />
Cndeba logikuri kiTxva, Tu<br />
mainc daarRvevda ruseTi SeTanxmebis<br />
pirobebs, maSin ratom<br />
„eswrafoda” vmo-Si gawevrianebas<br />
jer kidev 1994 wlidan?<br />
pasuxi ki erTia, rogorc sarkozi-medvedevis<br />
xelSekrulebas<br />
moewera xeli da am dros ruse-<br />
Ti sulac ar apirebda amis Sesrulebas,<br />
igive iyo vmo-s SemTxvevaSic.<br />
es konkretuli SeTanxmeba<br />
mas konkretul period-<br />
Si „awyobda”, magram im gaTvliT,<br />
rom mere ar Seesrulebina(!).<br />
SesaZloa imitom, rom icis, didi<br />
qveyanaa da fiqrobs, rom mis<br />
interesebs aucileblad gaiTvaliswineben,<br />
Tumca yvelam er-<br />
Tad unda davanaxoT, rom es ase<br />
ar aris!<br />
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Sefasebisa da gamocdebis erovnuli<br />
centris vebgverdze Ti-<br />
Toeuli sagnisTvis damatebiTi nimuSebi<br />
uaxloes dReebSi gamoqveyndeba.<br />
axali nimuSebi maT daexmareba,<br />
swori warmodgena Seiqmnan sagamocdo<br />
davalebebze.<br />
imisTvis, rom gamosaSveb gamocdebze<br />
zRvari gadalaxos, moswavlem,<br />
daaxloebiT, 15 martiv kiTxvas<br />
unda gasces swori pasuxi.<br />
gamosaSvebi gamocdebi welsac<br />
or etapad, me-11 da me-12 klasebSi<br />
Catardeba. me-11 klasis moswavleebi<br />
saswavlo wlis bolos im sagnebs<br />
abareben, romelTa swavlac daasrules<br />
(fizika, qimia, biologia,<br />
geografia). darCenil 4 saganSi ki<br />
testirebas (maTematika, qarTuli<br />
ena da literatura, ucxouri ena,<br />
istoria) moswavleebi skolis dam-<br />
Tavrebisas gadian.<br />
skolis damamTavrebeli gamocdebi<br />
kompiuterze adaptirebuli<br />
testirebis qarTuli modeliT<br />
tardeba. moswavlis SesaZleblobebze<br />
morgebuli testirebis qarTuli<br />
versia _ algoriTmi da programuli<br />
uzrunvelyofa _ Sefasebisa<br />
da gamocdebis erovnul centrSi<br />
Seiqmna.<br />
cvlilebebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
Sefasebisa da gamocdebis erovnuli<br />
centris xelmZRvanelma, maia<br />
miminoSvilma, preskonferenciaze<br />
isaubra. miminoSvilis gancxadebiT,<br />
cvlilebebi SeTanxmebulia ganaTlebisa<br />
da mecnierebis saministrosTan.<br />
misive ganmartebiT, mniSvnelovania<br />
moswavlem gaigos, gadalaxa<br />
Tu ara barieri da ar aqvs<br />
mniSvneloba konkretul qulas:<br />
„mTavari principia, gadalaxa<br />
Tu ver gadalaxa moswavlem barieri<br />
da ara _ konkretuli qula.<br />
es mniSvnelovani siaxle wels dainergeba<br />
da Cven moxarulebi varT,<br />
rom ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis<br />
saministrosTan SevajereT mosazrebebi.<br />
rogorc ki daasrulebs<br />
moswavle gamocdas, is kompiuteris<br />
ekranze dainaxavs, gadalaxa Tu<br />
ara barieri. Sesabamisad, mas konkretuli<br />
qula aRar daewereba”.<br />
misive ganmartebiT, Sefasebisa<br />
da gamocdebis erovnuli centri<br />
TiToeuli sagnisTvis damatebiT<br />
nimuSebs gamoaqveynebs da moswav-<br />
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saskolo-saatestato gamocdebi<br />
acrebiT mozardTa Soris Zalado-<br />
ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis sami-<br />
gela mamulaSvili<br />
ba, danaSaulTa ricxvi ar Semcirnistro<br />
da Sefasebisa da gamocdebdeba.<br />
aucilebelia skolis peda-<br />
599 45 50 26<br />
is erovnuli centri gamosaSvebi<br />
gogebTan, fsiqologebTan muSaoba.<br />
gamocdebis modelSi SesaZlo cv-<br />
mizani unda iyos mozardis TviT-<br />
lilebebze muSaobas agrZeleben. am etapisTvis dazustebulia<br />
Secnobaze aqcentireba, SemoqmedebiTi<br />
unarebis ganviTareba. Semo-<br />
2017-2018 wlisTvis gaTvaliswinebuli siaxleebi. testirebis das-<br />
Tavazebul variantSi arc pirda-<br />
rulebisas moswavle ekranze dainaxavs ara qulas, aramed Setypir<br />
da arc iribad ar ikiTxeba ms-<br />
obinebas imis Sesaxeb, gadalaxa Tu ara minimaluri kompetenciis<br />
gavsi qveteqsti.<br />
zRvari, anu miiRo minimalur 5,5 qulaze meti Tu naklebi?<br />
amdenad, inicirebuli varianti<br />
saxelmwifos mxridan, romelic<br />
leebs SesaZlebloba eqnebaT, es<br />
gaZlierebuli kontroliT apirebs<br />
nimuSebi maswavleblebTan erTad<br />
problemis mogvarebas, bolodroindeli<br />
movlenebis kvaldakval<br />
ganixilon, raTa sagamocdo davalebebze<br />
swori warmodgena SeeqmnaT.<br />
_ komunikaciebis ombudsmenis<br />
formalur reaqciad mimaCnia.<br />
`roca skolaSi Sefasebis<br />
sistema moSlilia da<br />
saganmanaTleblo procesi<br />
xarvezebiT mimdinareobs,<br />
gamosaSvebi gamocdebis<br />
qula, erTgvari,<br />
diagnostikuri Sefasebis<br />
statuss atarebs~<br />
mimdinare sakiTxebze „qronika+”<br />
partia „evropuli saqarTve-<br />
los” ganaTlebis mimarTulebis<br />
xelmZRvanels, mariam raminaSvils<br />
esaubreba:<br />
_ qalbatono mariam, am bolo<br />
iniciativebs rogor afasebT?<br />
_ Sefasebisa da gamocdebis<br />
erovnulma centrma ramdenime siaxle<br />
daaanonsa, maT Soris, bolo<br />
2018 wlis skolis saatestato gamocdebis<br />
Secvlili formatiT Catareba<br />
gaxlavT. kerZod, centris<br />
informaciiT, testirebis dasrulebisas<br />
moswavle ekranze dainaxavs<br />
ara qulas, aramed Setyobinebas<br />
imis Sesaxeb, gadalaxa Tu ara<br />
man minimaluri kompetenciis zRvari,<br />
anu miiRo minimalur 5,5 qulaze<br />
meti Tu naklebi. skolis gamosaSvebi<br />
gamocdebis qula ki kvlav<br />
rCeba erTaderTi mniSvnelobis<br />
matarebeli _ minimaluri kompetenciis<br />
dadastureba aris<br />
aucilebeli piroba saskolo atestatis<br />
misaRebad.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, SemoTavazebuli<br />
iniciativa Tavad gamocdaze<br />
ar aisaxeba da arafers cvlis. metic,<br />
normaluri saskolo saganmanaTleblo<br />
procesisaTvis logikuric<br />
ki aris, magram roca skolaSi<br />
Sefasebis sistema moSlilia<br />
da mTlianad saganmanaTleblo<br />
procesi saSualo safexurze xarvezebiT<br />
mimdinareobs, gamosaSvebi<br />
gamocdebis qula _ minimaluri<br />
kompetenciis Sefaseba _ erTgvari<br />
diagnostikuri Sefasebis statuss<br />
atarebs, rac skolis pedagogebisTvis<br />
am wlebis ganmavlobaSi ganixileboda,<br />
rogorc sworeba maT<br />
mier daweril niSanTan.<br />
am iniciativiT ki maswavleblis<br />
mier saSualo safexurze gakeTebuli<br />
Sefaseba, faqtobrivad, ukontrolo<br />
rCeba, rac, SesaZloa,<br />
pozitiurad ar aisaxos moswavle-<br />
Ta saboloo niSanze da, xSir SemTxvevaSi,<br />
es Sefaseba gaxdes subieqturi<br />
maswavlebelTa mxridan. maT<br />
Soris, ar gamovricxav korufciuli<br />
garigebis safrTxesac.<br />
Cemi azriT, mniSvnelovania iniciativa<br />
2018 wlis erTiani erovnuli<br />
gamocdebisaTvis garkveuli<br />
siaxleebis Sesaxeb, kerZod, qarTuli<br />
enisa da literaturis gamocdasa<br />
da zogadi unarebis testeb-<br />
Si. cvlilebebi abiturientebs ma-<br />
Ti unarebis ukeT gamovlenis Sesa-<br />
Zleblobas miscems _ msjelobis<br />
argumentirebis, araSablonurobis,<br />
kritikuli azrovnebis Sefaseba,<br />
vfiqrob, Tavisufali da kritikuli<br />
azrovnebis waxalisebaa.<br />
_ xazgasmiT _ skolebSi manda-<br />
turis samsaxuris gaZliereba da<br />
profesionali<br />
fsiqologebis<br />
CarTva ra Sedegebs moitans?<br />
_ minda aRvniSno, rom skolebSi<br />
mandaturis samsaxuris gaZlierebis<br />
SemoTavazebuli modeli policiuri<br />
reJimis skolaSi Setanis<br />
mcdelobaa da sasikeTod ar da ver<br />
aisaxeba mozardebSi gazrdili<br />
agresiis Semcirebaze. erTi, rom<br />
samsaxuris daqvemdebarebis skolidan<br />
gatana daviwyebuli Zvelis<br />
Semobrunebaa da meti araferi. aqve,<br />
Tavad am samsaxuris pirvandeli<br />
modelis xarvezic swored es<br />
gaxldaT.<br />
vfiqrob, mandaturis samsaxuri<br />
skolis struqturuli erTeuli,<br />
an misi administraciis nawili unda<br />
gaxdes, rom SeZlos im funqciis<br />
Sesruleba, romelic misi arsebobis<br />
ideaSi devs. SemoTavazebuli<br />
varianti kontrolze orientebuli<br />
sistemis damkvidrebis mcdelobaa<br />
da ara prevenciasa da mizezebis<br />
aRmofxvraze.<br />
Sesabamisad, roca damokidebuleba<br />
Tavidanve gulisxmobs SedegTan<br />
brZolas da ara mizezebis<br />
„ganeitralebas”, imTaviTve problema<br />
axal niuansebs iZens, izrdeba<br />
da gacilebiT rTuldeba misi<br />
mogvarebis SesaZlebloba.<br />
sadamsjelo RonisZiebebis gamk-<br />
gancxadebiT, garkveuli internet<br />
TamaSebis gamo bavSvebi savalalo<br />
Sedegebamde midian, Tqveni damok-<br />
idebuleba rogoria am problemis<br />
mimarT?<br />
_ mZime socialuri foni, sadac<br />
mSoblebs ar scaliaT SvilebisTvis,<br />
qmnis im realobas, romel-<br />
Sic bavSvi Tavis nebazea miSvebuli.<br />
Zalaufleba „faruli aRmzrdelebis”<br />
– televiziis, agresiuli<br />
kompiuteruli TamaSebis, internetis<br />
xelSi gadadis. martosuloba,<br />
sakuTari Tavisa da ufrosebisadmi<br />
rwmenis dakargva, samomavlo<br />
perspeqtivebis ngreva, mozardis<br />
cxovrebiT dauinteresebloba,<br />
sayovelTao undobloba, sastiki<br />
garemo, romelSic waxalisebulia<br />
kriminali, mozardSi iwvevs sazogadoebis<br />
normebisa da wesebis<br />
uaryofas, sazogadoebasTan gaucxoebas.<br />
amitom igi gaurbis im sociums,<br />
romelic ar iRebs mas da romelsac<br />
misi ar esmis.<br />
am asakisaTvis damaxasiaTebeli<br />
konvenciuri morali ki gulisxmobs<br />
avtoritetebis mibaZvas. Sesabamisad,<br />
martosulad darCenili<br />
mozardi Tavad arCevs da eZebs am<br />
avtoritets da akeTebs masze sworebas.<br />
Zaladobis elementebis Semcveli<br />
kompiuteruli TamaSebi agresiuli<br />
qcevis provocirebas axdens.<br />
mozardebs virtualuri Zaladobis<br />
realobaSi gagrZelebis survili<br />
uCndebaT. mozardi, romlis<br />
fsiqika jer Camoyalibebuli araa,<br />
ver grZnobs zRvars virtualur<br />
da realur samyaroebs Soris. is<br />
iwyebs Zaladobas realobaSi.<br />
aucilebelia, saxelmwifom,<br />
skolam, ojaxma SeTanxmebulad imoqmedon,<br />
gadainawilon pasuxismgebloba.<br />
arsebobs saerTaSoriso<br />
gamocdileba, romelic mozardebs<br />
daexmareba momZlavrebuli agresiis<br />
gamklavebaSi, aswavlis konfliqtebis<br />
mSvidobianad mogvarebas.<br />
skolam da saxelmwifom unda moaxerxos,<br />
mozardebs CamouyalibdeT<br />
jansaRi miznebi da interesebi, araformaluri<br />
ganaTlebis mravalferovani<br />
arCevani miscems sakuTari<br />
Tavis ganxorcielebis SesaZleblobas,<br />
rac, saboloo jamSi, mozardis<br />
ganviTarebis veqtors pozitiuri<br />
kuTxiT Semoabrunebs da Seamcirebs<br />
agresias.<br />
_ rogor SeiZleba Sefasdes ganaTlebis<br />
ministris axali wi-<br />
nadadebebi, maT Soris, umaRlesi<br />
saswavleblebis Semcirebaze?<br />
_ problemuria saskolo saaTobrivi<br />
badis cvlilebasTan dakav-<br />
Sirebuli winadadebebi, iqneba es<br />
meore ucxo enis swavlebis, kvireuli<br />
saaTobrivi datvirTvisa<br />
Tu religiis swavlebasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT. meCveneba, rom TiToeuli<br />
naCqarevi da gauazrebeli _ Sesabamisi<br />
kompetenciisa da gamocdi-<br />
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Secvlili formatiT Catardeba<br />
lebis mqone profesionalebTan<br />
SeuTanxmebeli _ „wacdenebia”.<br />
rac Seexeba umaRlesi saswavleblebis<br />
Semcirebaze gakeTebul gancxadebas,<br />
pirdapir getyviT, rom<br />
am formiT problemis mogvarebis<br />
mcdeloba saxifaToa da kerZo interesebis<br />
matarebeli SeiZleba<br />
gaxdes. is, rom umaRlesi saswavleblebis<br />
Semcireba iyos mizani, araswori<br />
da arasamarTliania, rac ganaTlebis<br />
xarisxze dadebiTad ar<br />
aisaxeba. problema, romelic am mimarTulebiT<br />
arsebobs, am gziT ver<br />
gadaiWreba.<br />
saWiroa akreditaciis iseTi<br />
kriteriumebi, romelTa dakmayofileba<br />
universitets studentebis<br />
miRebis uflebas moupovebs,<br />
xolo saxelmwifos profesional<br />
kadrebs Sehmatebs. iniciativa ga-<br />
JRerebuli formiT ufro damsjel<br />
xasiaTs atarebs, gansakuTrebiT,<br />
roca saubaria akreditebuli<br />
universitetebis aragegmur Semowmebaze.<br />
aseTi midgoma ver iqneba ganaTlebis<br />
xarisxze orientebuli,<br />
gauazrebelma qmedebebma ki, Sesa-<br />
Zloa, sakmaod rTuli Sedegi mogvces,<br />
Tundac ganaTlebis miRma darCenili<br />
dausaqmebeli axalgazrdebis<br />
saxiT.<br />
_ raSi mdgomareobs maswavle-<br />
belTa xelfasisa da studentTa<br />
dafinansebis Sesaxeb Tqveni bolo<br />
winadadebebi da reagireba rogo-<br />
ria?<br />
_ ganaTlebis saministros mier<br />
mowodebuli monacemebiT, am momentisaTvis<br />
58 007 pedagogi muSaobs.<br />
maTgan 41089, anu pedagogTa,<br />
daaxloebiT, 71%, praqtikosi pedagogis<br />
statuss flobs. ufrosis<br />
statusis mqone 16762 pedagogia,<br />
wamyvanis statusis _ 149, mentoris<br />
_ 7.<br />
aqve, 2017 wlis pirveli ianvridan,<br />
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xelfass ufrosisa da wamyvanis<br />
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datvirTviT muSaoben. ufrosis<br />
statusis mqone 16762 pedagogidan<br />
sruli datvirTviT 8000-mde<br />
muSaobs.<br />
Sesabamisad, gamodis, rom 800<br />
lari da meti odenobis xelfasi<br />
sistemaSi momuSave pedagogTa saerTo<br />
raodenobis 14%-ia. 41000<br />
sruli datvirTviT momuSave praqtikosi<br />
maswavleblebis xelze asaRebi<br />
xelfasi ki 480 laria. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom am mimarTulebiT<br />
arsebuli problema ministrs detalurad<br />
miewoda parlamentSi<br />
samTavrobo kandidatebis wardgenis<br />
dros da, amavdroulad, SesTavazes<br />
problemis mogvarebis gzac,<br />
2 Tvis Semdgom miRebuli gadawyvetileba<br />
_ wamyvani da mentori<br />
pedagogebis xelfasis matebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, saerTod ar gulisxmobs<br />
problemis mogvarebisTvis<br />
gadadgmul nabijsac ki. 156 xelfasmomatebuli<br />
pedagogi sajaro<br />
seqtorSi dasaqmebuli pedagogebis<br />
saerTo raodenobis 0,27%-ia.<br />
saministrom sertificirebuli<br />
pedagogebisa da, saerTod, profesiuli<br />
zrdis procesisaTvis unda<br />
Seqmnas motivacia, problema aRmoifxvreba,<br />
Tuki brZanebiT uzrunvelyofs<br />
saaTebis ganawilebis<br />
dros sertificirebuli/statusis<br />
mqone pedagogis sruli datvir-<br />
Tvis valdebulebas, rac maT upirates<br />
poziciaSi Caayenebs. aseTi<br />
cvlileba iqneba sawindari, nebismierma<br />
ufrosma Tu wamyvanma maswavlebelma<br />
srulad miiRos sasertifikacio<br />
danamati, rac TavisTavad<br />
gaxdeba profesiuli ganviTarebis<br />
xelSewyobis erT-erTi meqanizmi<br />
da, Tavis mxriv, pozitiurad<br />
aisaxeba ganaTlebis xarisxzec.<br />
meore mniSvnelovani problema<br />
aris xelisuflebis mier SemoRebuli<br />
studentebis programuli<br />
dafinansebis wesi, romelic, arsebulis<br />
paralelurad, warmoadgens<br />
biujetis Tanxebis usamarTlo,<br />
araracionalur da, Sesabamisad,<br />
araefeqtian xarjs. mocemuli<br />
TanxebiT, Zveli sagranto wesis SenarCunebiT,<br />
SesaZlebeli iqneboda<br />
yovelwliurad gacilebiT meti<br />
studentis dafinanseba.<br />
araefeqtianobisa da usamarTlobis<br />
arsi is gaxlavT, rom programuli<br />
dafinansebis studentebi,<br />
sxva programebze igive Sedegebis<br />
mqone studentebTan SedarebiT,<br />
ormag dafinansebas iReben, xolo<br />
studentebi, romlebsac erovnul<br />
gamocdebze ar miuRiaT saswavlo<br />
grantebi da, Sesabamisad, dabali<br />
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studentebis raodenoba. am-<br />
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raodenoba ori wlis ganmavlob-<br />
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wels es raodenoba 14 826 studentiT<br />
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marTavs da yvelaferi inerciiT midis, qveynas<br />
ki Zarcvaven da xraven Tavdajerebuli<br />
da Tavxedi Cinovnikebi.<br />
axla ki sajarod mivmarTav saqarTvelos<br />
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levan daviTaSvils, sus-is ufrosis moadgile<br />
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oTar danelias da saqarTvels parlamentis<br />
maJoritar wevrebs<br />
ara imisTvis, rom romelime Tqvengans<br />
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imitom, rom dRes, Cveni qveynisTvis<br />
umniSvnelovanes periodSi, swored<br />
Tqven gaqvT politikuri pasuxismgebloba<br />
saqarTvelosa da misi mosaxleobis winaSe.<br />
me mzad var, TqvenTan erTad wamovide<br />
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yanebi, plantaciebi, sadac saxelmwifos<br />
monawileobis gareSe fermerebi metnaklebi<br />
warmatebiT gaumklavdnen farosanas<br />
da gaCvenoT is teritoriebi, sadac saxelmwifo<br />
monawileobda da Sedegebi adgilze<br />
SevadaroT.<br />
aqve erT kiTxvas davsvam: Tu ase warmatebuli<br />
iyo SarSandeli „zonderi”, ratom<br />
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farosanas skandalis gamo<br />
susSi gamoZieba daiwyo<br />
airCieT wels „insakari”, romlis specifikaze<br />
am dromde arafers eubnebiT mosaxleobas<br />
da specialistebs?<br />
ratom ayenebT riskis qveS qarTveli<br />
glexis naSroms da ratom ver aTviTcnobierebT,<br />
rom qveyanaSi, faqtobrivad, sagangebo<br />
mdgomareoba gvaqvs?<br />
gana, Tqven is adamianebi ar xarT, romlebic<br />
2012 wlis 1 oqtombramde, lamis, sakuTari<br />
korespondentebi iyaviT TiTqmis yvela<br />
mediasaSualebisTvis da gvemudarebodiT,<br />
araferi gamogvrCenoda?<br />
ki batono, mesmis politikac, iqneb, zogierTze<br />
metadac da isic mesmis, rom „gundidan”,<br />
„ojaxidan” yvelafris gareT gatana<br />
ar SeiZleba, magram „SigniT” ratom dumxarT<br />
da ratom ar ibrZviT? maJoritarebo,<br />
gana, Tqven ar mogiwevT erTi erTze darCena<br />
sakuTar amomrCevelTan?<br />
Secdomebis aRiareba Zlier adamianebsa<br />
da Zlier xelisuflebebs SeuZliaT. nu<br />
xarT mudam sakuTari gadawyvetilebebis<br />
gamarTlebis reJimSi da sxvebs, vinc migi-<br />
TiTebT, mtrebad nu naTlavT. miT ufro,<br />
iq, sadac mteri araa. an sad ginaxavT SeuniRbavi<br />
mteri _ sajarod rom gakritikebdeT,<br />
migiTiTebdeT, stkiodes da a.S.? mters<br />
uxaria, rac ufro met Secdomas dauSveb da<br />
kisers moitex. am logikiT Tqven ufro<br />
mtrobT sakuTar Tavs da Sedegad _ qveyanasac,<br />
rodesac, Tundac, dRes aZlevT calkeul<br />
Cinovnikebs Tavxedobis uflebas.<br />
nuTu, marTla ver xedavT am procesSi<br />
saxelmwifo intitutebis saqmianobaSi sisustes,<br />
araprofesionalizms, moxeleTa unia-<br />
Tobas, uiniciativobas?<br />
bevri kiTxvis dasma SeiZleba. isic gasagebia,<br />
rom vinc akeTebs, is uSvebs Secdomebs,<br />
magram mimoixedeT irgvliv, dRes Secdomebis<br />
daSvebis dro ar aris. dRes arc SiSis<br />
droa, rom zogierTi Cinovniki ver SeZlebs<br />
dagegmili raodenobis Tanxis moparvas.<br />
iciT, ra ar msurs? is, rom Tqvenganac<br />
ar movismino: „bodiSi”, „ar vicodi”, „vambobdi,<br />
magram ar mismendnen”, „me ra meqna?” „me<br />
rigiTi deputati viyavi” da a. S. es frazebi<br />
ar miiReba! da arc is, roca calkeuli<br />
politikuri Zalebi Seecdebian TemaSi CarTvas<br />
da Tqven, kidev, maT politikur angaJirebulobas<br />
daabralebT, problemaze ki<br />
Tvals daxuWavT.<br />
mec mogmarTavT ara imitom, rom ramiT<br />
gjobivarT, aramed imitom, rom mec Tqvennairad<br />
am qveynis moqalaqe var da legitimuri<br />
ufleba maqvs, gamogafxizloT, migiTiToT<br />
da ukeTesi SedegisTvis viTanam-<br />
Sromlo TqvenTan sruliad uangarod. Tumca<br />
am ukanasknels, albaT, zogierTi Znelad<br />
gaigebT. nu gaviwydebT, rom swored amis-<br />
Tvis xarT daqiravebuli da amisTvis giqmniT<br />
komforts da ganiWebT privilegiebs.<br />
samwuxarod, Tanamdebobrivi avadoba: „me<br />
yvelaferi vici”, „me marTali var”, saqar-<br />
TveloSi pikzea. pikzea profesionaluri<br />
uvicobac. ginaxavT odesme idioti Tanamdebobis<br />
piri saqarTveloSi? an daumsaxureblad<br />
Tanamdebobaze mjdari? _ arao! _<br />
ityviT xmamRla, magram gulSi mipasuxebT<br />
ramdenic gindaTo. hoda, me xmamaRla vambob,<br />
rom farosanasTan brZolis sakiTxs,<br />
metwilad, mavneblebi ganageben da gamofxizldiT!<br />
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gveubnebian, rom meriaSi piarsamsaxuris<br />
mTeli batalioni hyavT<br />
(aseve gamgeobebs, saqalaqo samsaxurebs)<br />
da rom es funqciebi<br />
Tbilisis meriidan unda gamovides<br />
da sxva uwyebaSi, Sps-sa Tu<br />
aaip-Si gadavides, rac niSnavs,<br />
rom Sromis anazRaurebis muxls<br />
araferi akldeba, faqtobrivad,<br />
izrdeba kidec. da Tu adamianebs<br />
amcireben (rasac deklarirebulad<br />
acxadeben), amis proporciulad<br />
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unda Semcirdes.<br />
imis garda, rom aRniSnuli<br />
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izrdeba. es gaxlavT muxli,<br />
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unda Seiqmnas. ar gvaqvs gancda,<br />
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isev gaaerTianes.<br />
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es aaip-i, realurad, mavnebeli<br />
da wurbela struqtura (Cvenive<br />
fuliT dafinansebuli), 158 saStato<br />
erTeuliT izrdeba.<br />
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li da kompetenturi adamianeb-<br />
iT daakompleqtos Tbilisis<br />
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acio komisiaSi, romelic 22<br />
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opoziciuri partiebis warmo-<br />
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so saatestacio komisiaSi, aseve<br />
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etuli arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi, rom-<br />
lebic maRali ndobiT sargebl<br />
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oben”, _ ganacxada marika daTuk-<br />
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`nacionaluri moZraoba~ meriis sakonkurso-saatestacio komisiis<br />
SemadgenlobaSi opoziciisa da arasamTavroboebis CarTvas iTxovs<br />
organoa, magram, rogorc Cans, es<br />
ambavi dRemde ar ician.<br />
rac Seexeba axlad Seqmnil<br />
uwyebebs, magaliTad, es gaxlavT<br />
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viciT, ramdeni adamianis dasaqmebas<br />
apireben. aseve erT-erTi<br />
aaip-i gaxlavT municipaluri<br />
ganviTarebis saagento, sadac<br />
maT mierve Semotanil biujetSi<br />
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luturad sxva rames ambobs. Tu<br />
man da energetikis saministrodan<br />
gadasulma TanamSromlebma<br />
biujetis kiTxva ar ician, maTda<br />
samwuxarod da Cvenda sabednierod,<br />
am dokuments Zalian kargad<br />
vkiTxulobT da saSualebas<br />
ar mivcemT, rom Tbiliselebi<br />
moatyuon.<br />
_ am winadadebebze ras gpa-<br />
suxoben?<br />
_ dRes kalaZem aqeT gviTxra,<br />
rom opozicia ityueba, radgan<br />
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arc erTi TeTriT ar izrdebao.<br />
amavdroulad, gveubnebian, rom<br />
konkretul aaip-Si dasaqmebul-<br />
Ta raodenoba 158 erTeuliT<br />
izrdeba, - axali Sps „mwvane qalaqi”<br />
iqmneba, romelsac mwvane<br />
sivrceebis, baRebis, skverebis<br />
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rogorc aRvniSne, Sps-ebis saxelfaso<br />
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absoluturad sxva<br />
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amitom es Sps-ebi<br />
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dReisTvis Sps-ebsa da aaip-ebSi<br />
dasaqmebul adamianebs merze,<br />
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meriidan es funqciebi zustad<br />
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Wvirvalea. maTze konkursi ar<br />
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visac undaT, imas asaqmeben da am<br />
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xalxma imitom agvirCia, saSualeba<br />
ar mivceT, rom arakompetenturi<br />
adamianebi Tbilisis<br />
meriaSi dasaqmdnen, or kviraSi<br />
erTxel metros Weri ar gvengreodes,<br />
zahesis xidi permanentulad<br />
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ufleba gvaqvs da, realurad,<br />
amis saSualebasac ar gvaZleven,<br />
_ konkretul mimarTulebaSi<br />
mainc CavixedoT da sakuTari mosazrebebi<br />
gvqondes.<br />
_ varkeTilis metroSi Camongrevis<br />
Semdeg ganxorcielebuli<br />
cvlilebebisadmi ra damok-<br />
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_ kalaZem urbanuli saqalaqo<br />
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misi urbanistoba ar vici,<br />
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rac Seexeba „metro varkeTilis”<br />
Semdeg ganviTarebul movlenebs,<br />
ukve movismineT, rom<br />
Tbilisis meri ramdenime adamianis<br />
dasjas apirebs. Tbilisis meri<br />
imperatori ar aris. jer gamoZieba<br />
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Sedegebi, am dros, transportis<br />
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roca „metro varkeTilis” rekonstruqciasTan<br />
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Tu ra darRvevebis safuZvelze<br />
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_ axali meriisa da sakrebu-<br />
los starts rogor afasebT?<br />
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migveca, raTa am konkretul<br />
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meriaSi, gascnoboda ama Tu im<br />
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iZleva. kalaZem narmaniaze uaresad<br />
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rom meria Caketili iyo, magram<br />
dRes imaze metad daxSulia,<br />
vidre _ maSin. absoluturad<br />
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moklebuli varT yvelanair informacias,<br />
rodesac amis floba<br />
samsaxurebrivad gvevaleba, magram<br />
Tbilisis meria ugulebelyofs<br />
kanons, sakrebulos reglaments<br />
da, Sesabamisad, ver vflobT<br />
Zalian bevr informacias,<br />
romelic sakrebulos wevrs unda<br />
hqondes.<br />
Sesabamisad, kalaZis asi dRe<br />
SemiZlia absoluturad uaryofiTad<br />
Sevafaso. deklarirebulad<br />
acxadebs, rom yvelasTvis<br />
Riaa, _ opoziciisTvis, arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebisTvis,<br />
magram ramdenime mcdeloba<br />
gvqonda SevxvedrodiT (televiziebis<br />
gareSec SevTavazeT), rom<br />
konkretul problemaze gvesaubra,<br />
Cveni xedva SegveTavazebina,<br />
Tumca uSedegod.<br />
aq imas ar vgulisxmobT, gaiTvaliswinebda<br />
Tu ara am yvelafers.<br />
Cven biujetis kanoni gvavalebs,<br />
rom fraqcias unda wargvedgina<br />
SeTavazebebi biujetTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. es werilobiT gavugzavneT<br />
da rodesac kiTxva davusvi,<br />
waikiTxa Tu ara Cveni Se-<br />
Tavazebebi, amayad miTxra, rom<br />
ar waukiTxavs. mas hgonia, rom es<br />
Zalian kargi tonia, Tu ar waukiTxavs.<br />
es yvelaferi mis politikur<br />
sibeceze mianiSnebs. isic<br />
ar icis, rom amis elementaruli<br />
valdebuleba aqvs. is „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” meri ar aris, Tbilisis<br />
meria da es pasuxismgebloba gaTavisebuli<br />
ar aqvs. iseve, rogorc<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” sxva wevrebs<br />
Tbilisis meriasa Tu sakrebulo-<br />
Si.<br />
am fonze, dedaqalaqis meri-<br />
is pressamsaxuris informaciiT,<br />
municipalitetis mTavrobis morigi<br />
sxdoma gaimarTa. dRis wesrigiT<br />
gaTvaliswinebuli sakiTxebis<br />
ganxilvamde, Tbilisis merma<br />
kaxa kalaZem ramdenime mniSvnelovani<br />
gancxadeba gaakeTa.<br />
dedaqalaqis meris gadawyvetilebiT,<br />
Tbilisis meriis keTilmowyobisa<br />
da arqiteqturis samsaxurebidan<br />
ori TanamSromeli<br />
ganTavisufldeba, romlis mizezic,<br />
kaxa kalaZis ganmartebiT,<br />
pirebis mier interesTa SeuTavseblobis<br />
wesis darRveva _ kerZod<br />
ki, ojaxis wevrebTan dakavSirebuli<br />
saqmiswarmoebaSi miker-<br />
Zoebuli gadawyvetilebebia.<br />
„meriis Sida auditis samsaxurma<br />
ramdenime samsaxuris mimarTulebiT<br />
daiwyo mokvleva da<br />
konkretuli darRvevebi gamoikveTa.<br />
es exeba keTilmowyobisa da<br />
arqiteqturis samsaxurebis ori<br />
`rac Seexeba `metro varkeTilis~ Semdeg ganviTarebul movlenebs, ukve<br />
movismineT, rom Tbilisis meri ramdenime adamianis dasjas apirebs.<br />
Tbilisis meri imperatori ar aris. jer gamoZieba mimdinareobs, ar<br />
arsebobs eqspertizis daskvna, gamoZiebis Sedegebi, am dros,<br />
transportis samsaxuris ufrosi isev Tavis adgilzea, romelic im<br />
periodSic am samsaxuris ufrosi iyo, roca `metro varkeTilis~<br />
rekonstruqciasTan dakavSirebiT tenderi gamocxadda, magram pasuxi<br />
im samsaxuris ufross ar mohkiTxes. informaciac ar gvaqvs, romeli<br />
adamianebis ganTavisufleba igegmeba. veWvobT, rom es qveda rgolze<br />
gadawydeba, raTa zeda rgolebis pasuxismgebloba ar dadges~<br />
TanamSromlis mier interesTa<br />
SeuTavseblobis wesis darRvevas,<br />
kerZod, ojaxis wevrebTan dakav-<br />
Sirebul saqmiswarmoebaSi miker-<br />
Zoebul gadawyvetilebebs. msgavsi<br />
faqtebi, ra Tqma unda, cudad<br />
aisaxeba Tbilisis meriis imijsa<br />
da meriis TanamSromlebis muSaobis<br />
xarisxze”, _ ganacxada kaxa<br />
kalaZem.<br />
Tbilisis merma auditis samsaxuris<br />
ufrossa da Tbilisis<br />
vice-mers aRniSnul sakiTxze<br />
dawyebuli mokvlevis dasruleba<br />
da Sesabamisi gadawyvetilebis<br />
miReba daavala.<br />
meore sakiTxi, romelzedac<br />
dedaqalaqis merma mTavrobis<br />
bolo sxdomaze yuradReba gaamaxvila,<br />
metrosadgur „varkeTil-<br />
Si” ganxorcielebuli sareabilitacio<br />
samuSaoebis dros gamokveTili<br />
xarvezebia, ris gamoc<br />
kaxa kalaZem Tbilisis satransporto<br />
kompaniis xelmZRvanel<br />
mamuka kobaxiZes daavala, dakavebuli<br />
poziciebidan is pirebi gaaTavisuflos,<br />
romlebic aRniSnuli<br />
metrosadguris reabilitaciis<br />
satendero procedurebSi<br />
iyvnen CarTuli:<br />
„am etapze, arsebuli garemoebebi<br />
SeviswavleT da aSkaraa, rom<br />
samuSaoebis Sesrulebis dros<br />
xarvezebi iyo _ dawyebuli saproeqto<br />
samuSaoebis Sesyidvebidan,<br />
damTavrebuli samSeneblo<br />
samuSaoebis warmoebis procesiT.<br />
viciT, rom am mimarTulebiT<br />
dawyebulia gamoZieba da mis Sedegebs<br />
davelodoT. satransporto<br />
kompaniis xelmZRvanel mamuka<br />
kobaxiZes minda davavalo, rom<br />
dauyovnebliv gaaTavisuflos<br />
dakavebuli poziciebidan is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic satendero<br />
procedurebSi iyvnen CarTuli”,<br />
_ ganacxada kaxa kalaZem.<br />
dedaqalaqis merma meriis Sesabamis<br />
samsaxurebsa da gamgeobebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs sTxova,<br />
municipaluri infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtebis xarisxis kontrolze<br />
maqsimaluri yuradReba<br />
gaamaxvilon, radgan, misive<br />
TqmiT, araerTi infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtis Seswavlam da bolo<br />
dros ganxorcielebulma<br />
movlenebma aCvena, rom arsebuli<br />
sistema da meqanizmi Sesrulebuli<br />
samuSaoebis xarisxs saTanadod<br />
ver uzrunvelyofs.<br />
„ori kviris win davavale Cems<br />
moadgileebs, rom warmoadginon<br />
gegma, Tu ra unda gakeTdes imisTvis,<br />
rom xarisxi gaumjobesdes.<br />
satendero dokumentaciaSi<br />
iqneba imis aucilebloba, rom<br />
rodesac xelSekruleba gaformdeba,<br />
municipaluri infrastruqturuli<br />
proeqtebis xarisxis<br />
kontroli ganxorcieldes. arc<br />
erT saproeqto dokumentacias<br />
ar miecema msvleloba iqamde, vidre<br />
am dokumentaciis teqnikuri<br />
da xarisxobrivi eqspertiza ar<br />
ganxorcieldeba”, _ aRniSna<br />
dedaqalaqis merma.<br />
misive gancxadebiT, rodesac<br />
samSeneblo da samontaJo samuSaoebis<br />
warmoebis procesi daiwyeba<br />
da Sesrulebis etapze iqneba,<br />
saproeqto davalebebis Sesrulebaze<br />
mudmivi zedamxedveloba<br />
ganxorcieldeba. maT Soris,<br />
farul samuSaoebze imisTvis,<br />
rom saproeqto gadawyvetilebebi<br />
maRal doneze Sesruldes.<br />
„infrastruqturuli proeqtebiT<br />
Cveni moqalaqeebi sargebloben.<br />
Sesabamisad, maqsimalurad<br />
unda uzrunvelvyoT TiToeuli<br />
proeqtis xarisxi da TiToeuli<br />
moqalaqis usafrTxoebis<br />
dacva. mgonia, rom es mniSvnelovnad<br />
wingadadgmuli nabijia da<br />
gamgeobebsac minda vTxovo, rom<br />
xarisxsa da zedamxedvelobaze<br />
maqsimaluri yuradReba gavamaxviloT”,<br />
_ aRniSna kaxa kalaZem.<br />
mTavrobis sxdomaze Tbilisis<br />
merma sacxovrebeli farTebis<br />
dakanonebis proceszec isaubra,<br />
romelic, misive gancxadebiT,<br />
momavalSic gagrZeldeba. amJamad,<br />
sacxovrebeli farTebi wyne-<br />
Tis gzatkecilze, studqalaqis<br />
teritoriaze mcxovreb 47 ojaxs<br />
daukanondeba. „dRes Cven 47 ojaxs<br />
sacxovrebel farTs vukanonebT.<br />
kerZod, eseni arian wyneTis<br />
gzatkecilze, studqalaqis teritoriaze,<br />
#4 korpusSi mcxovrebi<br />
moqalaqeebi, romlebic aRniSnul<br />
farTebSi 90-iani wlebidan<br />
cxovroben da garkveuli mizezebis<br />
gamo, dakanoneba ver moaxerxes.<br />
minda, mivuloco maT da<br />
madloba vuTxra vakis gamgebels<br />
TanamSromlobisTvis. es Cveni<br />
winasaarCevno dapireba iyo, romelsac<br />
aucileblad SevasrulebT”,<br />
_ aRniSna Tbilisis mer-<br />
ma.<br />
21
gela mamulaSvili<br />
599 45 50 26<br />
mSeneblobis nebarTvis gacemis<br />
wesSi cvlilebebi Sedis. mTavrobis Sesabamisi dadgenilebis<br />
proeqti mTavrobis sxdomaze Tbilisis merma, kaxa kalaZem<br />
waradgina. rogorc premier-ministrma giorgi kvirikaSvilma<br />
ganacxada, es cvlilebebi TbilisSi mSeneblobebis process<br />
didwilad moawesrigebs.<br />
„umniSvnelovanesia, rom Cven<br />
TbilisSi mSeneblobebis procesi<br />
movawesrigoT da aseve, ufro meti<br />
yuradReba davuTmoT rekreaciuli<br />
sivrceebis ganviTarebas. amaze<br />
kaxi kalaZem araerTxel isaubra da<br />
minda mivesalmo meriis iniciativas<br />
am mimarTulebiT procesis<br />
mniSvnelovani gaumjobesebis Sesaxeb.<br />
nebarTvis miRebis procesSive<br />
iqneba aucilebeli gamwvanebis gegmis<br />
warmodgena, aRricxva iq arsebuli<br />
xeebis, axali gamwvanebis gegmis<br />
warmodgena, aseve, 4000 kv.m-ze<br />
didi nagebobis mSeneblobis nebar-<br />
Tvis misaRebad sawyis etapzeve iqneba<br />
saWiro satransporto kvlevisa<br />
da satransporto regulirebis<br />
sqemis warmodgenac. es, aseve, mniSvnelovnad<br />
gauadvilebs Cvens developerebs<br />
muSaobas im kuTxiT,<br />
rom bolo da Semdgom etapebze aRar<br />
iqneba saWiro damatebiTi cvlilebebis<br />
Setana proeqtirebaSi. winaswari<br />
konsultaciebi, rogorc<br />
vici, mimdinareobs aseve biznesseqtoris<br />
warmomadgenlebTan da darwmunebuli<br />
var, rom es cvlilebebi<br />
mniSvnelovnad moawerigebs<br />
TbilisSi mSeneblobebis process,<br />
saSualebas mogvcems, rom meti rekreaciuli<br />
sivrce gvqondes da galamazdes<br />
Cveni dedaqalaqi, rac<br />
yvelasTvis mniSvnelovania”, _ ganacxada<br />
premierma.<br />
mTavroba samSeneblo masalis<br />
xarisxTan dakavSirebul normebsac<br />
daadgens da amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
Sesabamis dadgenilebas miiRebs.<br />
„samSeneblo kodeqsis miRebis<br />
Semdeg mTavrobam unda daamuSaos<br />
reglamenti, romelic moawesrigebs<br />
samSeneblo masalis xarisxs da<br />
daadgens moTxovnebs samSeneblo<br />
xarisxis mimarT. meore mxriv, daadgens<br />
moTxovnebs, Tu rogor unda<br />
moxdes samSeneblo masalis bazarze<br />
ganTavseba. rogorc ki parlamenti<br />
kodeqss miiRebs, ramdenime<br />
TveSi mTavroba Sesabamis reglamentebs<br />
SeimuSavebs”, _ ganacxada<br />
ekonomikisa da mdgradi ganvi-<br />
Tarebis ministris moadgile irma<br />
qavTaraZem, romelmac iuridiul<br />
sakiTxTa komitets „sivrcis dagegmarebis,<br />
arqiteqturuli da sam-<br />
Seneblo saqmianobis kodeqsis”<br />
proeqti warudgina.<br />
samSeneblo kodeqsis proeqtis<br />
Tanaxmad, mTavrobas Semdegi normatiuli<br />
aqtebis miReba evaleba:<br />
„sivrciTi mowyobisa da qalaqTm-<br />
SeneblobiTi gegmebis SemuSavebis<br />
wesis Sesaxeb”, „teritoriebis gamoyenebisa<br />
da ganaSenianebis regulirebis<br />
ZiriTadi debulebebis<br />
Sesaxeb”, „mSeneblobis nebarTvis<br />
gacemisa da Senoba-nagebobis eqspluataciaSi<br />
miRebis wesisa da<br />
22<br />
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pirobebis Sesaxeb”, „sivrciTi dagegmvis<br />
sainformacio sistemis Sesaxeb”,<br />
„mSeneblobis organizebisa<br />
da mSeneblobis usafrTxoebis Sesaxeb”,<br />
„Senoba-nagebobis energoefeqtianobis<br />
Sesaxeb”, „Senoba-nagebobis<br />
mimarT arqiteqturuli mo-<br />
Txovnebis Sesaxeb”, „Senoba-nagebobis<br />
mimarT konstruqciuli moTxovnebis<br />
Sesaxeb”, „Senoba-nagebobis<br />
mimarT sainJinro moTxovnebis Sesaxeb”,<br />
„samSeneblo masalis bazarze<br />
ganTavsebis wesebis Sesaxeb”. informacias<br />
„ipn.ji” avrcelebs.<br />
am problemasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„mSenebelTa ligis” Tavmjdomare,<br />
teqnikur mecnierebaTa doqtori<br />
anzor sakandeliZe Tbilisis mer<br />
kaxa kalaZes Semdegi Sinaarsis mimarTvas<br />
ugzavnis (stili dacu-<br />
lia):<br />
„batono kaxa.<br />
yvelaze katastrofuli safr-<br />
Txe, rac emuqreba Tbiliss, sadac<br />
TiTqmis naxevari saqarTvelo cxovrobs,<br />
aris karze momdgari damangreveli<br />
miwisZvrebi. rogorc<br />
cnobili geofizikosi, akademikosi<br />
Tamaz WeliZe aRniSnavs, arabe-<br />
Tis filaqani, romelic daZrulia<br />
CrdiloeTisken, ukve daejaxa evraziis<br />
filaqans da moaTrevs weliwadSi<br />
15 sm-iT. saqarTvelos garda,<br />
evraziis filaqanze ganlagebuli<br />
yvela Cveni mezobeli saxelmwifo<br />
sistematur reJimSi emzadeba<br />
ra gardauvali 8-9-baliani miwisZvrebisTvis,<br />
masobrivad amowmeben<br />
da angreven uxarisxod aSenebul<br />
iseT maRliv korpusebs, rogorebic<br />
dRes Sendeba TbilisSi.<br />
saSinelia bolo wlebis statistikac:<br />
2000-2010 wlebis 10 weliwadSi<br />
msoflioSi miwisZvrebisgan<br />
43%-iT ufro meti adamiani daiRupa,<br />
vidre 1950-2000 wlebis 50<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi!<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, advili warmosadgenia,<br />
ra ubedureba datrialdeba<br />
8-balian seismur zonaSi<br />
mdebare TbilisSi, Tu aq moxdeba<br />
saproeqto da, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
mosalodneli 8-baliani miwisZvra.<br />
am dros saqarTveloSi, maT Soris,<br />
TbilisSi, 27 weliwadia, arc erTi<br />
Senoba ar Semowmebula seismomedegobaze<br />
da Tbiliselebis sicocxles,<br />
realurad, katastrofuli<br />
safrTxeebi emuqreba.<br />
batono kaxa, 2017 wlis 15 noembers<br />
da 2018 wlis 23 ianvars<br />
Tqvens saxelze gamogzavnil Cvens<br />
oficialur werilebSi gwerdiT:<br />
„TbilisSi unda gamocxaddes sagangebo<br />
mdgomareoba, droebiT unda<br />
SeCerdes rkinabetonis karkasuli<br />
tipis 12 sarTulze ufro metsarTuliani<br />
sacxovrebeli korpusebis<br />
daproeqteba-mSenebloba da<br />
anzor sakandeliZe:<br />
`samSeneblo sferoze<br />
kontroli unda aRdges,<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi didi<br />
problemebi gvelis~<br />
saproeqto dokumentacia aucileblad<br />
unda movides SesabamisobaSi<br />
saqarTvelos 2009 wlis kanonTan:<br />
„seismomedegi mSenebloba pn-01-01-<br />
09".<br />
yvelaze didi danaSauli, rac<br />
meriam Caidina Tbiliselebis mimarT,<br />
aris am kanonis absoluturi<br />
ugulebelyofiT ukanono samSeneblo<br />
nebarTvebis masobrivi gacema,<br />
ris gamoc dRes Tbilisi gadatenilia<br />
12-sarTulianamde sacxovrebeli<br />
korpusebis nacvlad ukanonod<br />
aSenebuli 20, 30, 40 da ufro<br />
metsarTuliani sacxovrebeli korpusebiT,<br />
romlebic ar aris Semowmebuli<br />
saproeqto 8-balian seismomedegobaze<br />
da iq mcxovrebTa sicocxle<br />
realur safrTxeSia!”<br />
samwuxarod, 3 Tve gavida da pasuxi<br />
ar migviRia. amJamad, amave teqsts<br />
gwerT mesamed da gTavazobT<br />
Tbiliselebis sikvdil-sicocxlis<br />
am gadaudebeli problemis mosagvareblad<br />
gadavdgaT pirveli<br />
praqtikuli nabijebi da droebiT<br />
SevaCeroT am „sikvdilis korpusebis”<br />
daproeqteba-mSenebloba da<br />
nebarTvebis gacema, sanam proeqtebi<br />
ar mova SesabamisobaSi samSeneblo<br />
kanonmdeblobasTan da, pirvel<br />
rigSi, kanonTan „seismomedegi mSenebloba<br />
pn-01-01-09". amis Semdeg<br />
SerCeviT unda daviwyoT sacxovrebeli<br />
korpusebis Semowmebebi seismomedegobaze.<br />
saqarTvelos mSenebelTa ligam,<br />
sadac damfuZneblebi arian adre<br />
evropaSi cnobili, yofili zavrievis<br />
saxelobis samSeneblo meqanikisa<br />
da seismomedegobis institutis<br />
wamyvani mecnierebi (mec am institutis<br />
aspiranti viyavi), agre-<br />
Tve mTel postsabWour sivrceSi<br />
seismomedegobis centrad aRiarebuli,<br />
yofili sakavSiro samecniero<br />
kvleviTi da saproeqto-sakonstruqtoro<br />
„Tbilzniepis” institutis<br />
direqtori da seismuri kvlevebis<br />
laboratoriis xelmZRvaneli,<br />
moviZieT ra mSeneblobis<br />
saministros gauqmebis Semdeg jer<br />
kidev gadarCenili am 2 institutis<br />
samecniero da laboratoriuli<br />
resursebi, SegviZlia gavukeToT<br />
organizacia 27 wlis Semdeg saqar-<br />
TveloSi Senoba-nagebobaTa Semowmebebis<br />
dawyebas seismomedegobaze.<br />
Semowmebis fasi ganisazRvreba Senobis<br />
sarTulianobiT, Sesamowmebeli<br />
mTliani farTobiT da 1kv.mis<br />
Rirebuleba iqneba 2-3 aSS dolari.<br />
Cven SegviZlia seismomedegobaze<br />
laboratoriuli gamokvlevebi<br />
CavutaroT Senobebs rogorc<br />
mSeneblobis mimdinareobis<br />
dros gadaxuruli sarTulebis<br />
mixedviT, ise damTavrebul Senobebs<br />
miReba-Cabarebis aqtebis gaformebis<br />
win.<br />
batono kaxa, imedi gvaqvs, am<br />
Cvens saqmian winadadebas, romlis<br />
dadebiTad gadawyvetas Tbilisisa<br />
da TbiliselebisTvis udidesi mni-<br />
Svneloba aqvs, aiyvanT pirad kontrolze.<br />
am sakiTxis dadebiTad<br />
gadawyvetiT Tqven xels SeuwyobT<br />
saqarTveloSi seismomecnierebis<br />
`evrostandartebiT<br />
ver daviwyebT,<br />
mTeli samSeneblo<br />
kompleqsi unda<br />
gaaCero, magram<br />
ganukiTxaoba sufevs<br />
da amas movla<br />
sWirdeba~<br />
22 N5 (<strong>226</strong>) 20.02-26.02.2018 w.
aRorZinebas! kargi iqneba, Tu migviRebT,<br />
an stumrad gvewveviT Cveni<br />
ligis wevr gamocdil da damsaxurebul<br />
mSeneblebs, damproeqteblebs,<br />
warmoebis specialiastebsa<br />
da mecnierebs. am Sexvedraze Senobebis<br />
seismomedegobaze laboratoriuli<br />
Semowmebebis Cvens momaval<br />
gegmebze mogaxsenebT ufro<br />
dawvrilebiTa da argumentirebulad.<br />
am Sexvedrazeve mogaxsenebT<br />
Cven mier damuSavebul-dapatentebul<br />
da mSenebelTa ligis mier mowonebul<br />
„Tbilisisa da Tbiliselebis<br />
gadarCenis megaprogramaze”,<br />
romelic axali wlis wina dReebSi<br />
winaswari ganxilvisTvis gasacnobad<br />
davutoveT arqiteqturis samsaxuris<br />
warmomadgenel nino talaxaZes”.<br />
„qronika+~ „mSenebelTa ligis”<br />
Tavmjdomares, teqnikur mecnierebaTa<br />
doqtor anzor sakan-<br />
deliZes esaubreba:<br />
_ 2014 wels mSeneblobis saministro<br />
rac gauqmda, am sakiTxze<br />
omi gvaqvs atexili. misasalmebelia,<br />
Tu mTavroba am saqmes xels<br />
mohkidebs, magram vin da rogor<br />
gaakeTebs? yvelafris Semowmeba<br />
rom daiwyon, amisTvis arc erTi<br />
samSeneblo profilis samecnierokvleviTi<br />
instituti, aseve laboratoria<br />
aRar arsebobs. ki batono,<br />
gakeTeba kargia, magram, realurad,<br />
amis gamkeTebeli vin aris?<br />
jer erTi, am normebs dadgena<br />
sWirdeba. am dros, dargi Tavidan<br />
bolomde Sesamowmebelia, rac Zalian<br />
rTuli gasakeTebeli iqneba.<br />
veubnebodi, rom ar SeiZleboda<br />
qveyanaSi mSeneblobis saministros<br />
gauqmeba, radgan es aravis gaukeTebia.<br />
realurad, samxedro-strategiuli<br />
dargia da likvidireba amitomac<br />
ar SeiZleboda.<br />
postsabWour qveynebSi mSeneblobis<br />
saministro yvelganaa. im<br />
evrokavSirSic, sadac Sesvlas vapirebT,<br />
uwyeba yvela qveyanaSia<br />
calke an sxva dargTan erTad. magaliTad,<br />
mSeneblobisa da energetikis<br />
saministro gvxvdeba imitom,<br />
rom es aucilebelia, radgan mSeneblobis<br />
saministro yvela qveyana-<br />
Si seismuri usafrTxoebisa da sam-<br />
Seneblo ekologiuri usafrTxoebis<br />
dacvis mTavari garantia. Tu es<br />
saministro ar aris, im qveyanaSi miwisZvrebisgan<br />
dacvis da samSeneblo<br />
ekologiuri normebis dar-<br />
RveviT gamowveuli mZime daavadebebisgan<br />
dacvis garanti ar arsebobs,<br />
es aris da es.<br />
amitom, ra Tqma unda, es Semowmebebi<br />
unda daviwyoT da orive<br />
xeliT am winadadebebs mxars vuWer.<br />
magram jer koncefcia aris mosaZebni,<br />
Tu saidan da rogor daviwyoT<br />
procesi, radgan aq yvelaferi<br />
dangreulia.<br />
_ dRes vin unda gaakeTos es<br />
saqme, axali normebi vin unda<br />
daadginos?<br />
_ am normebis damdgenic aravinaa,<br />
araferi aRar arsebobs. adre<br />
am normebs, ZiriTadad, samSeneblo<br />
samecniero-kvleviTi institutebi<br />
adgendnen. iq zavrievis instituti,<br />
sakavSiro saTavo, Tu hidroteqnikuri<br />
mSeneblobebis kuTxiT samecniero-kvleviTi<br />
instituti iyo.<br />
yvelaferi bolomde ganadgurebulia<br />
da vin daadgens aRniSnul<br />
normebs?<br />
amitom struqturebi Tavidan<br />
aris Sesaqmneli, raRacebi, ubralod,<br />
gadasarCenia. samSeneblo sferoze<br />
kontroli calsaxad unda<br />
aRdges, sxva SemTxvevaSi didi problemebi<br />
gvelis. magram vimeoreb,<br />
amis Semmowmebeli, elementaruli<br />
normebis damdgeni vin aris? Tavis<br />
droze, ugalavam rom TbilisSi nebismieri<br />
Semowmebebi, regulaciebi<br />
akrZala da obieqtebze aravis uSvebdnen,<br />
amitom sistema bolomde<br />
Caiketa. axla amas advilad vin gaxsnis?<br />
iq iseTi ubedurebebia datrialebuli<br />
da aseTive raRacebia<br />
damalul-mifuCeCebuli, rom Cven<br />
naxevarze meti arc viciT, am sferoSi<br />
aqamde ra xdeboda da<br />
dResac rasTan gvaqvs saqme.<br />
amis saSualeba erTxel mogveca<br />
2002 wels, rodesac manuCar maCaiZe<br />
sakrebuloSi mSeneblobis komisiis<br />
Tavmjdomare iyo. deputatebi<br />
wamoiyvana, Zlivs SegviSves mSeneblobebze<br />
erTi dRiT da meore<br />
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dRes gamogvyares, aRarsad aRar<br />
gagvatares. adgilze rac vnaxeT,<br />
raRac saSinelebebi gamoirkva. erT<br />
dReSi 50-mde obieqtze movaswariT<br />
Sescvla, pirvel-meore sarTulebze<br />
SevdiodiT da mxolod konstruqciebSi<br />
betonis simtkices vamowmebdiT.<br />
yvela samasi vatis nacvlad<br />
150 da ufro naklebi gamovida.<br />
amiTaa aSenebuli, lamis, mTeli<br />
Tbilisi.<br />
xarisxze saubars axla iwyeben.<br />
pirvel rigSi, koncefcia unda Camoyalibdes,<br />
Tu rogor unda gakeTdes<br />
es saqme. Cven evrostandartebiT<br />
ver daviwyebT. maSin mTeli<br />
samSeneblo kompleqsi unda gaaCero<br />
da yvelaferi unda damuxru-<br />
Wdes. aq, ubralod, ganukiTxaoba<br />
sufevs da amas movla sWirdeba.<br />
Tundac, ruseTSi arsebuli<br />
dRevandeli mdgomareoba aviRoT:<br />
SeiZleba evrostandartebTan SedarebiT<br />
didi ambebi ar xdebodes,<br />
magram iqac ki sammagi Semowmebaa<br />
samSeneblo masalebis, mosapirkeTeblisa<br />
da misT. jer masalebi sabaJoze<br />
rom Semodis, mowmdeba, rac<br />
saqarTveloSi ar arsebobs. Semdeg,<br />
rodesac realizaciaSi midis sabi-<br />
Tumo Tu sacalo vaWrobaSi, iqac<br />
Semowmebebia. masalas sertifikatebi<br />
Tu ar mohyveba, imas ruseTSi<br />
aravin yidulobs. realurad, verc<br />
gayidi da Tu mainc gaasaReb, amaze<br />
Semdeg pasuxs mainc mogTxoven. es<br />
yvelaferi samSeneblo obieqtze<br />
rom midis, iqac amowmoben, akontroleben.<br />
Semdeg rom damTavrdeba,<br />
mTlianad Senobas samSenebloekologiur<br />
usafrTxoebaze amowmeben.<br />
aq amis dawyeba, rasakvirvelia,<br />
ase advili ar iqneba. maSin struqtura<br />
unda gamoiyos da es yvelaferi,<br />
upirvelesad, TbilisSi<br />
aris mosawesrigebeli.<br />
adgilobrivi arCevnebi rom iyo,<br />
mSenebelTa ligam Tbilisisa da<br />
Tbiliselebis gadarCenis programa<br />
davwereT. iq gawerilia, Tu saerTod<br />
ra unda gakeTdes, upirvelesad<br />
ra aris gasakeTebeli da a.<br />
S. zereled saubari rom ar gamogvivides,<br />
iq yvelaferi dawvrilebiT<br />
weria.<br />
es programa axali wlis wina<br />
dReebSi merias mivwereT. arqiteqturis<br />
samsaxuris warmomadgenlebi<br />
Segvxvdnen, gvTxoves da es programa<br />
davutoveT. Semdegi Sexvedra<br />
qalaqis merTan unda gvqonoda.<br />
arafers viTxovT, arc Tanamdebobebi<br />
gvinda da arc maTi xelfasebi.<br />
mSenebelTa ligaSi gamocdili<br />
xalxia, Zveli ministris moadgileebi,<br />
samecniero kvleviTi institutebis<br />
direqtorebi, mecnierebi,<br />
damproeqteblebi, saproeqtos<br />
direqtorebi, gamocdileba<br />
gvaqvs da gamogviyenon.<br />
saqarTvelos mSeneblobis saministro<br />
sabWoTa kavSirSi erT-er-<br />
Ti mowinave mSeneblobis saministro<br />
iyo. Tu sadme sapasuxismgeblo<br />
rame Sendeboda kavSiris mas-<br />
StabiT, mas qarTveli mSeneblebi<br />
aproeqtebdnen, qarTvelebi aSenebdnen.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, kvalificiuri<br />
muSebic aqedan mihyavdaT. udidesi<br />
gamocdilebis nawili mainc SemorCenilia<br />
da gamoiyenon es xalxi.<br />
xarisxis Semowmeba rom undaT,<br />
amas vin gaakeTebs? amitom Cven<br />
TanamSromlobas vTavazobT. Tavis<br />
droze, ugulavasac SevTavazeT,<br />
TiTqos daTanxmda da mere uari<br />
gviTxres, _ es yvelaferi mSeneblobas<br />
gaaZvirebso.<br />
pirvel rigSi, yvela obieqtze<br />
teqnikuri zedamxedveli unda iyos.<br />
ara im kompaniisa, romelic<br />
aSenebs, aramed an meriis teqnikuri<br />
zedamxedvelobis warmomadgeneli,<br />
an Tu es resursi ar eyofaT, Sesabamis<br />
kadrs Cven movumzadebT.<br />
yvelaferi aqedan unda daiwyos,<br />
rom mSenebloba viRac kompetenturs<br />
Cabardes, Torem es mSenebloba<br />
dilidan saRamomde miyrilia,<br />
absoluturad uyuradRebod<br />
arian da mTel Tbiliss eliavas<br />
kadrebs aSenebineben, es droze<br />
unda damTavrdes.<br />
romel xarisxis kontrolzea<br />
`romel xarisxis kontrolzea saubari, rodesac laboratoriuli Semowmebac<br />
ar undaT, arc sxva araferi. Sexedav armaturas, korozia aqvs modebuli,<br />
Jangvis procesia dawyebuli. ai, amas rom aiReb da rkina-betonis<br />
konstruqciaSi Cadeb, iq xarisxic da mSeneblobis usafrTxoebac<br />
damTavrebulia, radgan dawyebuli korozia ginda betonSi moaqcie da ginda<br />
sxvagan, is droSi grZeldeba, es armatura korozias gaagrZelebs da mere<br />
saproeqto datvirTvebs veRar uZlebs, erT dResac mTeli Senoba<br />
Camoingreva. ai, es ver mouwesrigebiaT, sxva raze unda visaubroT?~<br />
saubari, rodesac laboratoriuli<br />
Semowmebac ar undaT, arc sxva<br />
araferi. Sexedav armaturas, korozia<br />
aqvs modebuli, Jangvis procesia<br />
dawyebuli. ai, amas rom aiReb<br />
da rkina-betonis konstruqciaSi<br />
Cadeb, iq xarisxic da mSeneblobis<br />
usafrTxoebac damTavrebulia,<br />
radgan dawyebuli korozia ginda<br />
betonSi moaqcie da ginda sxvagan,<br />
is droSi grZeldeba, es armatura<br />
korozias gaagrZelebs da mere saproeqto<br />
datvirTvebs veRar uZlebs,<br />
erT dResac mTeli Senoba Camoingreva.<br />
ai, es ver mouwesrigebiaT,<br />
sxva raze unda visaubroT?<br />
erTi periodi agilebze davdiodiT,<br />
suraTebs vuRebdiT da<br />
vafrTxilebdiT, rom amis gakeTeba<br />
ar SeiZleba. axla CamouareT<br />
Jurnalistebma da gadauReT erTi,<br />
ras deben, Tmebi yalyze dagidgebaT,<br />
iq iseTi ambebi xdeba, am da-<br />
Jangul armaturebs rom yrian rkina-betonis<br />
damzadebis dros.<br />
mizezi is aris, rom yvelaferi<br />
Tavis nebazea miSvebuli. Tu gamosworebis<br />
process daviwyebT, ki batono,<br />
es kargi iqneba, magram ufro<br />
rbili normebiT unda daviwyoT.<br />
magaliTad, ukrainaSi arsebuli SedarebiT<br />
rbili normebiT dawyeba<br />
gvindoda. es ufro garTulebulia<br />
ruseTSi da evrokavSiris normebs<br />
jer, albaT, verc mivekarebiT.<br />
amitom es procesi raRac gardamaval<br />
periodebad unda daiyos.<br />
mTeli es koncefcia dasamuSavebelia.<br />
ase ar gamova, marto lozungi<br />
wamoiZaxo da is ar iyos gansaz-<br />
Rvruli, saqmes vin da rogor<br />
gaakeTebs. anu vin aris amSenebeli,<br />
Semmowmebeli da mere damsjeli vin<br />
aris, mTel am process vin akontrolebs?<br />
amas mSeneblobis saministro<br />
alagebda da yvelaferi iqiTken<br />
midis, rom es saministro unda aRvadginoT,<br />
Torem dRevandel saqarTveloSi<br />
arsebul samSeneblo<br />
„bardags” (nebarTvis gacemiT dawyebuli,<br />
Semdeg daproeqtebiT,<br />
mSeneblobiT, SemowmebiT, aSenebulis<br />
miReba-CabarebiT damTavrebuli,<br />
yvelaferi formalobad rom<br />
aris qceuli) araferi eSveleba.<br />
_ mSeneblobis nebarTvis gace-<br />
mis wesSic cvlilebebi Sedis...<br />
_ amaze saubrebiTac daviRaleT.<br />
esec ugulavam SemoiRo, rom<br />
mSeneblobis nebarTvebis gacema mxolod<br />
arqiteqturis naxaziT Sei-<br />
Zleba. ramdeni xania vambob, rom es<br />
iyo danaSauli. mSeneblobas iwyeben<br />
da jer proeqti mzad ar aqvT,<br />
mxolod arqiteqturuli naxazia,<br />
anu raRac fasadebia da saqmes amiT<br />
iwyeben. es, realurad, naxazic<br />
araa, naxatia. amas eleqtronuli<br />
fostiT gadaagzavni da pasuxic<br />
mogiva.<br />
es ra sisulelea, Tu proeqti<br />
mzad ar aris, eqspertiza ar aqvs<br />
gavlili da sxv. miT umetes, roca<br />
dRes dedaqalaqSi 20, 30 da 40-<br />
sarTulian saxlebs aSeneben. Tanac<br />
amaze kanoni arsebobs 2010 wlis<br />
pirveli ianvridan amoqmedebuli,<br />
rom rkina-betonis karkasuli tipis<br />
Senobebi ar SeiZleba Tormet<br />
sarTulze ufro maRalsarTuliani<br />
aSendes. am kanoniT procesi<br />
movigeT da CemTan _ zaqariaZeze,<br />
fsiqiatriuli saavadmyofos teritoriaze,<br />
eqvsi ocdaTormetsarTuliani<br />
korpusis aSeneba SevaCerebineT.<br />
dava swored am kanoniT movigeT,<br />
rogorc saqalaqo, saapelacio,<br />
aseve uzenaes sasamarTloSic<br />
gavimarjveT.<br />
mxolod erTi korpusi, raRacnairad,<br />
mainc iCaliCes da daamTavrebines.<br />
mere meubnebodnen, rom<br />
amaze ramenairad davTanxmebuliyaviT.<br />
ki batono, davTanxmdebi, oRond<br />
viRacam Seamowmos, 12 sarTulis<br />
nacvlad 32-sarTuliani xom<br />
aaSenes (axla gayidvas cdiloben),<br />
vinmem Seamowma, romel standarts<br />
akmayofilebs?<br />
Tbilisi 8-balian seismur zona-<br />
Si Sedis, amitom saproeqto seismomedegobac<br />
8 bali unda iyos, amas<br />
xom unda gauZlos? hoda, vinmem<br />
Seamowmos da am yvelaferze xeli<br />
mouweros! ginda samxaraulis eqspertizis<br />
biuro iyos, ginda sxva,<br />
ucxoeli eqspertebi Camoiyvanon.<br />
bolos da bolos, iq mosaxleoba<br />
unda Sevides, ojaxebma unda icxovron.<br />
axla mSenebelTa ligam meriaSi<br />
werili SevitaneT. imas mivaRwieT,<br />
rom dangreul-ganadgurebuli<br />
samSeneblo seqtoris SigniT rezervebi<br />
rac iyo darCenili, aqedan<br />
erTi jgufi SevakowiweT, moviZieT<br />
mowyobilobebi, riTac seismomedegobis<br />
dadgena SeiZleba da muSaobas<br />
viwyebT.<br />
pirdapir vacxadebT, rom 27 welia,<br />
saqarTveloSi, maT Soris,<br />
TbilisSic seismomedegobaze araferi<br />
Semowmebula, amitom aSenebulis<br />
Semowmeba unda daviwyoT.<br />
miReba-Cabarebis dros es Senoba<br />
xom unda Semowmdes? msoflioSi<br />
vinme Senobas Caibarebs eqspluataciaSi,<br />
rom seismomedegobaze Semowmebuli<br />
ar iyos? es xom gamoricxulia.<br />
27 wlis Semdeg mainc xom<br />
unda daviwyoT es procesi? kvadratuli<br />
metris 2-3 dolaris fas-<br />
Si Cven am korpusebs seismomedegobaze<br />
SevamowmebT da daskvnas<br />
mivcemT. marTla profesionali<br />
mSeneblebic iWylitebian mTel am<br />
ganukiTxaobaSi.<br />
_ 2010 wlis kanoni axseneT,<br />
riTac procesi moigeT da 32-<br />
sarTulianis mSenebloba SeaC-<br />
ereT, igive kanoni sxvagan ratom<br />
ar sruldeba?<br />
_ kanons erTxel rom gadaabijeb<br />
da ar Seasruleb, mere asec<br />
moxdeba. TormetsarTulianebis nacvlad<br />
ToTxmetsarTulianebis<br />
aSeneba rom daiwyes, erTi ambavi<br />
avtexeT, rom is ori sarTuli moexsnaT,<br />
radgan es arakanonieria.<br />
viTomc araferi, ise gaatares. Semdeg<br />
ukve TeqvsmetsarTulianebi<br />
aaSenes, mere oci, ocdaxuTi da<br />
axla ormoczec aRar Cerdebian.<br />
xom unda SeaCero, xom ukanonoa es<br />
yvelaferi? bolos da bolos, marto<br />
Cven sami sasamarTlo movigeT.<br />
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ivaniSvilis mmarTvelobis<br />
politikas aqvs Tavisi kanonebi.<br />
koka wereTeli<br />
ori istoriuli personis _ Sarl<br />
de golisa da uinston CerCilis<br />
gaxseneba sakmarisia imis dasturad, rom politikuri madliere-<br />
ba ar arsebobs. iseve rogorc warsulis damsaxurebebi ver<br />
gamodgeba samomavlo indulgenciad. politika dRevandelobaa,<br />
upirvelesad. momavali politikaSi mxolod winasaarCevno da-<br />
pirebebia, romelic swored rom momavalSi gazRvevinebs.<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis mier gaJRerebuli<br />
anekdoti gaxsovT? ai, is<br />
_ qali rom „imnairi” ar iyo da „butkaSi”<br />
agzavnidnen. mag anekdotis<br />
ar iyos, ar yofila da ar aris ivaniSvili<br />
politikosi da zustad misive<br />
anekdotis gmiriviT aiZules,<br />
„iq” _ politikaSi Sesuliyo. Semdeg<br />
„imnair” garemoSi yofna ar moewona<br />
da rogorc Zvel dros, axlac<br />
Soridan, fantomiviT gascems gankargulebebs,<br />
avalebs da aRasrulebinebs<br />
ise, rom Tavad „arafer Sua-<br />
Sia”. SuaSi namdvilad ar aris _<br />
TavSia da es aris problema.<br />
sxva bevr argumentTan erTad,<br />
iciT, ratom wavida? imitom, rom<br />
sakmaod Zneli yofila saarCevnod<br />
gacemuli uxvi dapirebebis Sesruleba.<br />
wavida imitom, rom yvelaze<br />
rTuli Sesasruleblad mainc<br />
samarTlianobis aRdgena moeCvena.<br />
miT ufro im pirobebSi, roca saer-<br />
Tod arc adardebda sxvis mimarT<br />
arsebuli usamarTloba. rac ukve<br />
vnaxeT, imis mixedviT ki samarTlianobis<br />
aRdgena misTvis SurisZieba<br />
iyo da iZia kidec.<br />
gaxsovT, saakaSvil-ivaniSvilis<br />
pirveli Sexvedra prezidentis rezidenciaSi<br />
2012 wels? ase mgonia,<br />
swored maSin uTxra an gaifiqra<br />
ivaniSvilma, rom „xom Segisruleo”...<br />
Semdeg ki ukve gareT, aSkarad<br />
kmayofili ivaniSvilis fraza:<br />
„Cven Cvens oponentebs _ vacxadebdiT<br />
da vacxadebT dResac _ moveqceviT<br />
ara ise, rogorc imsaxureben,<br />
aramed ise, rogorc imsaxurebs<br />
Cveni qveyana, Cveni qarTveli<br />
xalxi, Cveni saqarTvelos mosaxleoba,<br />
Cveni kultura”.<br />
ramdenic unda amtkicos ivaniSvilma<br />
da misma garemocvam, rom<br />
batonma biZinam politikaSi mosvla<br />
qveynis gadarCenis mizniT gadawyvita,<br />
Znelad dasajerebeli iqneba.<br />
ufro da ufro realuri xdeba,<br />
rom is politikaSi piradi SurisZiebis<br />
motiviT Sevida.<br />
cxadia, im periodisTvis, qveyanaSi,<br />
sadac namdvilad mimdinareobda<br />
reformebi da yalibdeboda<br />
saxelmwifo institutebi, sadac<br />
ganaxlebis suli araTu igrZnoboda,<br />
aramed xelSesaxebi iyo, magram<br />
raoden ar unda uWirdeT amis aRiareba<br />
yofili xelisuflebis calkeul<br />
Tu umravles momxreebs _ ir-<br />
Rveoda da fexqveS iTeleboda adamianis<br />
uflebebi, ivaniSvilis politikaSi<br />
gamoCenam, erTgvarad,<br />
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`biZina ivaniSvilis mier gaJRerebuli anekdoti<br />
gaxsovT? ai, is - qali rom `imnairi~ ar iyo da<br />
`butkaSi~ agzavnidnen. mag anekdotis ar iyos,<br />
ar yofila da ar aris ivaniSvili politikosi<br />
da zustad misive anekdotis gmiriviT aiZules,<br />
`iq~ - politikaSi Sesuliyo. Semdeg `imnair~<br />
garemoSi yofna ar moewona da rogorc Zvel<br />
dros, axlac Soridan, fantomiviT gascems<br />
gankargulebebs, avalebs da aRasrulebinebs ise,<br />
rom Tavad `arafer SuaSia~. SuaSi namdvilad<br />
ar aris - TavSia da es aris problema~<br />
`Tumca "ocnebis" liderebs iluzia awuxebT da,<br />
albaT, marTla fiqroben, rom xalxs "bRuja-<br />
bRujad" aqvs fuli. iqneb, amitomac aravin<br />
fiqrobs biznesgaremos gajansaRebaze da<br />
normaluri sagadasaxado reJimis Seqmnaze.<br />
rac Sexeba pensionerebsa da socialurad<br />
daucvelebs, arc es segmenti uWers mxars<br />
xelisuflebas. segmentis TiToeul individs<br />
sjera, rom mas meti sikeTe ekuTvnis da isic<br />
xom viciT, rom sazogadoebis es fena<br />
mniSvnelovnad imedgacruebulia imis gamo, rom<br />
mas ivaniSvilis, diax, ivaniSvilis gamarjvebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, minimum, vercxlis "saraia" undoda,<br />
Tu oqrosi ara. axla adamianis madliereba-<br />
umadurobis gancdis gansjas ar daviwyeb,<br />
radganac isedac cnobilia, rom umaduroba da<br />
xelisuflebisgan metis ndoma mokvdavTa<br />
udidesi sisustea~<br />
pozitiuri roli iTamaSa.<br />
2012 wlis 1 oqtomberi tragedia<br />
iyo aTi aTasobiT gayeyeCebuli<br />
qarTvelisTvis, romlis funqcia<br />
mquxare taSis dakvrisa da „mi-<br />
Sa, miSas” skandirebiT Semoifargleboda;<br />
aTasobiT nabadmoxuruli<br />
CinovnikisTvis, romelTaTvisac<br />
samSoblo sakuTari kuWidan<br />
iwyeboda; asobiT „nacionaluri”<br />
TavxedisTvis, romlebic wminda<br />
rasis warmomadgenlebad miiCnevdnen<br />
Tavs; aTobiT elitaruli mliqvnelisTvis,<br />
romlebmac milionebis<br />
gamo yvelaferi ikadres da akadres;<br />
erTeuli gvirgvinosnebisTvis,<br />
romlebmac qveyanaSi konstituciisa<br />
da sxva kanonebis nacvlad,<br />
erTi samarTali: „me var kanoni”<br />
daamkvidres.<br />
ra Seicvala? ivaniSvili „wavida”<br />
da axla zemoT moyvanili abzaci<br />
SegviZlia, ase CamovayaliboT:<br />
diax, 2012 wlis 1-li oqtomberi<br />
sasargeblo aRmoCnda aTi aTasobiT<br />
gayeyeCebuli qarTvelisTvis,<br />
romlis funqcia mquxare taSis dakvrasa<br />
da „biZina, biZinas” skandirebiT<br />
Semoifargleba; aTasobiT nabadmoxuruli<br />
CinovnikisTvis, romelTaTvisac<br />
samSoblo sakuTari<br />
kuWidan iwyeba; asobiT „meocnebe”<br />
TavxedisTvis, romlebic wminda<br />
rasis warmomadgenlebad miiCneven<br />
Tavs; aTobiT elitaruli mliqvnelisTvis,<br />
romlebic milionebis<br />
gamo yvelafers kadruloben; er-<br />
Teuli gvirgvinosnebisTvis, romlebmac<br />
qveyanaSi konstituciisa<br />
da sxva kanonebis nacvlad, erTi<br />
samarTali: „me var kanoni” daamkvidres.<br />
radgan ivaniSvils surda Zalaufleba,<br />
magram ara _ pasuxismgebloba,<br />
man arCevnebis Semdeg realurad<br />
igrZno, ra didi tvirTia,<br />
roca saarCevnod gacemul dapirebebs<br />
ver asruleb; ra damamcirebeli<br />
iqneba saprezidento arCevnebis<br />
Semdeg, Sen mier „dasmul” prezidents<br />
eaxlo uSiSroebis sabWos<br />
sxdomaze da „sufris TavSi” ar<br />
ijde; „ra ubedurebaa”, viRac Sens<br />
karTan idges da TavSesafars gTxovdes,<br />
bankis kreditebis gadavadebas<br />
gemudarebodes, „ra dros Ziliao?!”<br />
_ giyvirodnen da a. S. gana,<br />
umjobesi ar aris, flobde realur<br />
Zalauflebas da ar gqondes<br />
pasuxismgebloba? ho, ivaniSvilma<br />
es gza airCia.<br />
amasobaSi ki, qveyana rom gaCerebulia,<br />
amas ukve araTu „ocnebis”<br />
gulanTebuli aqtivistebi, aramed<br />
Tavad „ocnebis” liderebic xvdebian.<br />
politikuri nebis deficit-<br />
Tan, panikur SiSsa da araprofesionalizmTan<br />
erTad, xelisuflebis<br />
umTavresi problema partnioris<br />
aryolaa. diax, xelisuflebas arc<br />
erT sferosa da segmentSi araTu<br />
megobari, partnioric ki ar hyavs<br />
da es mniSvnelovnad ganapirobebs<br />
im politikur da ekonomikur stagnacias,<br />
romelSic amJamad qveyana<br />
imyofeba.<br />
axla ufro detalurad: ivaniSvilis,<br />
anu „ocnebis” xelisuflebas<br />
ar hyavs partniori saerTa-<br />
Soriso arenaze. es ki imas niSnavs<br />
da Sedgebic iqiT midis, rom qveyana<br />
dRiTi dRe kargavs imijs saer-<br />
TaSoriso asparezze.<br />
xelisuflebis arapragmatuli<br />
nabijebi ruseTTan mimarTebiT<br />
TvalnaTelia. mxolod politika-<br />
Si gauTviTcnobierebeli obivateli<br />
SeiZleba moatyuo imiT, rom<br />
kargia, roca ruseTi yoveldRe ar<br />
axsenebs saqarTvelos. faqti ki is<br />
aris, rom qveyanaSi hibruduli omi<br />
mZvinvarebs da xelisufleba mas<br />
arafriT da aranairad ar upirispirdeba.<br />
am omSic rom vmarcxdebiT,<br />
amis dasturia sxvadasxva gamokiTxva,<br />
sadac ruseTis poziciebi<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobaSi ga-<br />
Zlierebulia.<br />
ruseTi Cvengan xarks ar krefs,<br />
mas wasaRebi ukve waRebuli aqvs da<br />
cocva-cocviTac miaqvs. ra Tqma<br />
unda, kremli samomavlod arc<br />
ufro msuye naWerze ityvs uars,<br />
Tumca es naWeri ruseTma, sakuTari<br />
mtacebluri da imperiuli bunebidan<br />
gamomdinare, Tavad unda wai-<br />
Ros da miZleuli arafrad sWirdeba.<br />
xom cxadia da faqtia, rom „wiwmatur-alkoholurma”<br />
garRvevam<br />
kremli xelisuflebis partniorad<br />
ver aqcia.<br />
nurc imis mtkicebas daiwyebs<br />
Cveni xelisufleba, rom mas aSS miaCnia<br />
strategiul partniorad.<br />
ara, ar miaCnia! ubralod, pozaa<br />
amaze saubari. strategiuli partnioris<br />
dRis wesrigSi Tundac<br />
ukrainis konteqstSi saqarTvelo<br />
iSviaTad gaismis. da es namdvilad<br />
aris „ocnebis” politikis damsaxureba.<br />
gaxsovT, oqtombris arCevnebSi<br />
gamarjvebisTanave miiwvies bi-<br />
Zina ivaniSvili TeTr saxlSi da<br />
uari ganacxada, _ dasruldes arCevnebi<br />
Tavad amerikaSi da dalagdneno.<br />
aSS-is dalagebas eloda kaci,<br />
romelsac qveyana hqonda dasalagebeli<br />
da am saqmeSi namdvilad sWirdeboda<br />
mniSvnelovani partniori.<br />
maSin „ocnebis” spikerebma ivaniSvilis<br />
es gadawyvetileba, lamis,<br />
diplomatiur saxelmZRvaneloebSi<br />
Seitanes. saocari komentarebi<br />
movismineT _ aravin icis, rogor<br />
dasruldeba arCevnebi amerikaSi<br />
da araa saWiro sulswrafobao. mokled,<br />
Tu obama damarcxdeba, es<br />
vizitic wyalSi gadayrili iqnebao.<br />
arada, TeTri saxlis strategiuli<br />
xedva saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT<br />
ovaluri kabinetis binadris vinaobaze<br />
sulac ar aris damokidebuli.<br />
amdeni rom ar gesmis politikur<br />
gunds, romel sagareo warmatebaze<br />
unda visaubroT?!. obamas xelmeored<br />
gaprezidentebis Semdeg<br />
batonma ivaniSvilma saqmeebi moimizeza<br />
da ganacxada, _ didi xniT qveyanas<br />
ver davtovebo. iqneb, kvirikaSvilis<br />
trampis magidaze Camoyrdnobaa<br />
diplomatiuri garRveva,<br />
Tu RaribaSvilis „mmarTvelobisas”<br />
derefnebSi Sexvedra da xelis<br />
CamorTmeva?<br />
Tumca sazogadoebis gonieri<br />
nawilis mexsierebas kidev erTi _<br />
metad mniSvnelovani fraza Semor-<br />
Ca: „300 metrisTvis oms xom ar<br />
daviwyebT”... Tan roca gjera, rom<br />
„vladimir vladimiroviCma ar icis<br />
araferi” da yvelafers rus generalsa<br />
da, lamis, efreitors daabraleb,<br />
Tan frazasac daayoleb:<br />
„mzad varT ruseTTan urTierTobebis<br />
dasaregulireblad”. „ocnebisa”<br />
da misi mxardamWerebisTvis<br />
bzeJinski ki ara, Sarl moris de<br />
taleiran-perigori xar da obama<br />
da trampi ra mosatania?!!<br />
qarTuli politikis imbecilizmia<br />
is, rom ruseTis umTavresi<br />
Semakavebeli Zala, _ aSS fexebze<br />
gvkidia da darwmunebulni varT,<br />
patriarqi kirili mogvigvarebs<br />
yvela sakiTxs. mokled, saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebisTvis partniori<br />
arc aSS-a. es sulac ar niSnavs<br />
imas, rom aSS-Si saqarTvelo fexebze<br />
kidiaT. ubralod, axla, radgan<br />
Cven Tavs ar viwuxebT, arc<br />
Tavad wuxdebian zedmetad.<br />
evropa... movlenebis ganviTareba<br />
cxadyofs, rom male evropasac<br />
gavanawyenebT. saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />
„myisieri” reagireba vizaliberalizaciis<br />
SesaZlo SeCerebaze<br />
aris udidesi ugunureba. saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebaSi ar esmiT,<br />
Tu ratom gaiqca da garbis saqarTvelodan<br />
mosaxleoba da ratom<br />
eZebs TavSesafars evropaSi. imis<br />
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garantia _ SiSi!<br />
nacvlad, rom ekonomikaSi gatardes<br />
Zireuli reformebi, Seiqmnas<br />
damatebiT samuSao adgilebi da<br />
adamianebs SeeqmnaT Rirseuli cxovrebis<br />
pirobebi, Wkuiskolofebma<br />
savizo reJimis damrRvevebis dasjis<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRes. isev<br />
ver iazrebs xelisufleba mizezebs.<br />
isev SecdomiT reagirebs da<br />
amiT, isev da isev, qmnis safrTxeebs.<br />
ho, evropuli warmatebebi _<br />
asocirebis xelSekruleba da vizaliberalizacia<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />
ruduneba ki ara, evropuli<br />
istitutebis mier buqsirze<br />
akidebuli da ZaliT miRweuli Sedegia,<br />
rodesac maT mier inicirebul<br />
winadadebebze, ubralod, „uxerxulia”<br />
uaris Tqma. Sesabamisad,<br />
arc evropaa saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />
partniori. TanamSromloba<br />
kidev sxva rames niSnavs.<br />
xelisuflebas partniorebi ar<br />
hyavs arc Sida politikur cxovrebaSi.<br />
gamarjvebuli koaliciidan<br />
gayrili partiebi dRes misi mowinaaRmdegeebi<br />
arian. TviT „ocnebis”<br />
`2012 wlis 1 oqtomberi tragedia iyo aTi<br />
aTasobiT gayeyeCebuli qarTvelisTvis, romlis<br />
funqcia mquxare taSis dakvrisa da "miSa, miSas"<br />
skandirebiT Semoifargleboda; aTasobiT<br />
nabadmoxuruli CinovnikisTvis, romelTaTvisac<br />
samSoblo sakuTari kuWidan iwyeboda; asobiT<br />
"nacionaluri" TavxedisTvis, romlebic wminda<br />
rasis warmomadgenlebad miiCnevdnen Tavs;<br />
aTobiT elitaruli mliqvnelisTvis,<br />
romlebmac milionebis gamo yvelaferi ikadres<br />
da akadres; erTeuli gvirgvinosnebisTvis,<br />
romlebmac qveyanaSi konstituciisa da sxva<br />
kanonebis nacvlad, erTi samarTali: "me var<br />
kanoni" daamkvidres~<br />
wiaRSic umravlesobis politikuri<br />
konglomerati imdenad ekleqturia,<br />
rom cxadze ucxadesia _<br />
maT mxolod piradi keTildReoba<br />
aerTianebT.<br />
ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebas _<br />
„qarTul ocnebas” _ partniorebi<br />
arc danarCen politikur speqtr-<br />
Si hyavs. ise, qarTveli politikosebis<br />
vnebebi Zalauflebasa da<br />
fulze gadis. Sesabamisad, rogorc<br />
ki romelime „lideri” gaigebs, vis<br />
uxdis biZina ivaniSvili da vis ras<br />
hpirdeba, is moCvenebiTad metad<br />
moidreks wels, magram gaborotdeba<br />
da realurad daiwyebs sakuTar<br />
TamaSs, an sxva gundis wevri xdeba.<br />
ar aris saWiro Tavis mokatuneba<br />
da imaze saubari, rom „ocnebis”<br />
xelisuflebas megobrebi hyavs saerTaSoriso<br />
institutebSi. realurad,<br />
ar hyavs! metic, saxelmwifos<br />
mier daqiravebuli piar da lobisturi<br />
kompaniebi gaognebulni arian,<br />
radgan damqiravebeli amocanasac<br />
ki ver uxsnis da usaxavs. meeqvse<br />
welia, xelisufleba, calkeuli<br />
saerTaSoriso warumateblobisas<br />
gveubneba, saqme „nacionalebma”<br />
da maTma lobistebma gagvifuWeso.<br />
calke sakiTxia, yoveli aseTi gancxadebis<br />
Semdeg xelisufleba acxadebs,<br />
rom ususuri „arsebaa” da<br />
araviTari strategiuli gaTvla<br />
ar gaaCnia. magram rogor fiqrobT,<br />
romelime kompanias kontraqtis<br />
dakargva surs? ara! Sesabamisad, im<br />
lobistebsac gadasarevad esmiT,<br />
rom maTTvis ama Tu im saerTa-<br />
Soriso institutSi saqarTvelos<br />
imijis Sesaqmnelad da calkeuli<br />
sakiTxebis lobirebisTvis saxelmwifos<br />
fulia gadaxdili. am kompaniebs<br />
axasiaTebT memkvidreobiTi<br />
TanamSromloba da Tu xelisuflebaSi<br />
piariT dakavebul pirebs sakuTari<br />
merkantiluri zraxvebi ar<br />
aqvT, ratom ver usazRvraven maT<br />
konkretul davalebebs? Tu es<br />
davalebebi miSas dros imitom<br />
sruldeboda, rom misi eSinodaT?<br />
iqneb, merabiSvilis an adeiSvilis<br />
eSinodaT saerTaSoriso kompaniebs?<br />
aqve movrCebi piaris Temas, romelic<br />
qveynis SigniTac sakmaod<br />
warumatebelia. mosaxleoba sworad<br />
imasac ki ver igebs, Tu ras ake-<br />
Tebs xelisufleba kargs da warmatebulad.<br />
piarze pirdapiraa mibmuli<br />
mediis Temac. raoden gasakviradac<br />
ar unda mogeCvenoT, xelisuflebas<br />
partniori arc mediaSi<br />
hyavs. mavani ityvis, xelisuflebisa<br />
da mediis partnioroba vis<br />
gaugiao da Secdeba. xelisuflebisa<br />
da mediis megobroba ar SeiZleba,<br />
Torem partnioroba namdvilad<br />
SesaZlebelia. dRevandel xelisuflebas<br />
ki mravlad hyavs jibis mediasaSualebebi,<br />
romelTac „megobar<br />
medias” uwodebs, xolo kritikul<br />
medias mtrad racxs. Sesabamisad,<br />
xelisufleba mediasegment-<br />
Sic upartniorod aris darCenili.<br />
meore segmenti, romelTanac<br />
aseve aranormaluri damokidebuleba<br />
aqvs xelisuflebas, aris arasamTavrobo<br />
seqtori. aqac TvalnaTliv<br />
Cans „nakvebni” da „kvebisTvis”<br />
mzadmyofni. esec is mimarTulebaa,<br />
sadac xelisufleba kisris<br />
motexis kandidatia, radgan dro-<br />
Ta ganmavlobaSi „nakvebTa” mier xelisuflebis<br />
sawinaaRmdegod gake-<br />
Tebuli erTi gancxadebac ki ufro<br />
wonadi iqneba, vidre imaTi, vinc<br />
marTlac obieqturad akritikebs,<br />
miuTiTebs da gnebavT, gulSematkivrobs<br />
xelisuflebas. Sesabamisad,<br />
is forma, rac mediasTan da<br />
arasamTavrobo seqtorTan saurTierTod<br />
airCia xelisuflebam, swored<br />
am xelisuflebis dasamTavreblad<br />
aris zedgamoWrili da ara<br />
qveynisa da, Tu gnebavT, xelisuflebis<br />
sakeTildReod.<br />
biznesi... aq saqme ufro rTuladaa,<br />
vidre vinmes SeuZlia warmoidginos.<br />
qarTul bizness mama ar<br />
hyavs, xolo ekonomikas _ deda. msxvilma<br />
kompaniebma da biznesmenebma<br />
moaxerxes da xelisuflebasTan,<br />
anu baton biZinasTan urTierTobebi<br />
daalages. es sulac ar niSnavs<br />
imas, rom maT Tavisuflad curva<br />
SeuZliaT. ubralod, ician, rom<br />
ivaniSvilis interesebis sferoSi<br />
ar unda SeiWran. sxva mxriv xelisuflebis<br />
yvela warmomadgenelTan<br />
`Tumca sazogadoebis gonieri nawilis<br />
mexsierebas kidev erTi - metad mniSvnelovani<br />
fraza SemorCa: "300 metrisTvis oms xom ar<br />
daviwyebT"... Tan roca gjera, rom "vladimir<br />
vladimiroviCma ar icis araferi" da<br />
yvelafers rus generalsa da, lamis,<br />
efreitors daabraleb, Tan frazasac<br />
daayoleb: "mzad varT ruseTTan<br />
urTierTobebis dasaregulireblad". "ocnebisa"<br />
da misi mxardamWerebisTvis bzeJinski ki ara,<br />
Sarl moris de taleiran-perigori xar da<br />
obama da trampi ra mosatania?!!~<br />
aris SesaZlebeli saqmeebis dalageba.<br />
saSualo fena qveyanaSi kvlav<br />
ar arsebobs. mcire bizenesi suls<br />
Rafavs da yoveldRe gakotrebis<br />
molodinSia. Sesabamisad, ukanono<br />
garigebebiT mcxovrebi an/da gakotrebisa<br />
da daWeris molodinSi<br />
myofi qarTveli biznesmenebi sulac<br />
ar arian xelisuflebis partniorebi.<br />
Tumca „ocnebis” liderebs iluzia<br />
awuxebT da, albaT, marTla<br />
fiqroben, rom xalxs „bRuja-bRujad”<br />
aqvs fuli. iqneb, amitomac<br />
aravin fiqrobs biznesgaremos gajansaRebaze<br />
da normaluri sagadasaxado<br />
reJimis Seqmnaze.<br />
rac Sexeba pensionerebsa da socialurad<br />
daucvelebs, arc es segmenti<br />
uWers mxars xelisuflebas.<br />
segmentis TiToeul individs sjera,<br />
rom mas meti sikeTe ekuTvnis<br />
da isic xom viciT, rom sazogadoebis<br />
es fena mniSvnelovnad imedgacruebulia<br />
imis gamo, rom mas<br />
ivaniSvilis, diax, ivaniSvilis gamarjvebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, minimum, vercxlis<br />
„saraia” undoda, Tu oqrosi<br />
ara. axla adamianis madlierebaumadurobis<br />
gancdis gansjas ar<br />
daviwyeb, radganac isedac cnobilia,<br />
rom umaduroba da xelisuflebisgan<br />
metis ndoma mokvdavTa<br />
udidesi sisustea.<br />
axalgazrdoba? narkoliberalizaciasa<br />
da Cadebis winaaRmdeg<br />
mimarTul aqciebze axalgazrdebis<br />
konsolidireba gvaCvenebs, ramdenad<br />
aris momavali Taoba xelisuflebis<br />
partniori.<br />
viRac mkiTxavs, _ ki magram, xom<br />
hyavs ivaniSvils, anu „ocnebas”<br />
madlieri adamianebic, sazogadoebaSi<br />
avtoritetuli personebi,<br />
romlebic misi araTu partniorebi<br />
da mxardamWerebi, aramed megobrebic<br />
ariano. gipasuxebT, _ er-<br />
Teulebi da ara sami aTasze meti<br />
adamiani, romelsac ivaniSvili uxdida<br />
Tu uxdis sakuTari fondidan<br />
premiebsa Tu damsaxurebul pensiebs.<br />
ratom erTeulebi? imitom, rom<br />
im siaSi myof TiToeul personas<br />
miaCnia, yvelaze meti misTvis unda<br />
mieca. ise, Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />
Tavis droze, robiko sturuas<br />
2000 lars rom uxdida da buba<br />
kikabiZes _ 5000-s, aq aSkarad „usamarTlobasTan”<br />
gvaqvs saqme. Sedegad,<br />
sajarod Tu ara, gulSi mainc<br />
iginebian „meocnebe” avtoritetebi.<br />
Sesabamisad, am damsaxurebuli personebidan,<br />
rac ar unda moxdes, ivaniSvilis<br />
mxares arasodes dadgebian<br />
misi politikuri mowinaaRmdegeebi,<br />
xolo momxreebi isedac<br />
gabutulni arian da araviTar partniorobaze<br />
saubari ar aris.<br />
vinRa darCa ivaniSvilis mxardamWeri?<br />
isini, romlebic „nacionalebs”<br />
esvrian kvercxebs da maT<br />
dapatimrebas moiTxoven? aramc da<br />
aramc. TiToeuli maTgani darwmunebulia,<br />
rom swored maT ekuTvnodaT<br />
Tanamdebobebi TviTmmarTvelobebSi,<br />
saministroebsa da Tqven<br />
warmoidgineT, ministrTa kabinetSic<br />
ki.<br />
maSin raze dgas ivaniSvilis xelisufleba?<br />
SiSze! sazogadoebis<br />
SiSze, rom „nacionalebis” „sisxlismsmelma”<br />
frTam ar daibrunos<br />
xelisufleba. ivaniSvilis xelisufleba<br />
revanSis SiSze dgas da raoden<br />
paradoqsulic ar unda iyos,<br />
am dromde ver gaiazra es Tavad<br />
„nacionalurma moZraobam” da prodasavlurma<br />
opoziciam. da ramdenic<br />
ar unda iwuwonon, ramdenic ar<br />
unda abralon sxva garemoebebs politikurma<br />
liderebma Tu sazogadoebis<br />
sxvadasxva fenis warmomadgenlebma,<br />
swored es SiSi aris<br />
jerac saqarTvelos politikuri<br />
momavlis ganmsazRvreli.<br />
siaxle<br />
elementarul<br />
maTematikaSi<br />
(qveyndeba sainformacio<br />
daniSnulebiT)<br />
wrewiris rkalis jeradi ricx-<br />
vis dasadgenad, anu im ricxvisa,<br />
romelic wrewirSi mocemuli rka-<br />
lis raodenobas unda asaxavdes,<br />
saWiroa qordasa da rkalis Sesabamisi<br />
kuTxis simaRles Soris Se-<br />
fardebis ricxviTi mniSvnelobis<br />
namravli amav qordaze gamoyenebul<br />
iqnas kuTxisave simaRlis gar-<br />
vamagebuli sigrZis gamyofad.<br />
sxva sityvebiT, es igivea, rac<br />
Sesabamisi tolferda samkuTxedis<br />
fuZisa da simaRlis Sefardeba<br />
(magaliTad, fuZis ganayofi sima-<br />
Rleze) gamravldes imav fuZeze,<br />
raTa miRebuli namravli gamoyenebul<br />
iqnas imav simaRlis gar-<br />
vamagebuli sigrZis gamyofad.<br />
ukanaskneli<br />
ariTmetikuli<br />
moqmedebis Sedegad miRebuli ga-<br />
nayofi iqneba Cven mier saZieblad<br />
dasaxuli ricxvi mocemuli wrewiris,<br />
romelze gayofiTac miiRe-<br />
ba Sesabamisi rkali.<br />
ramdenadme dawvrilebiT:<br />
mocemuli gvaqvs wrewiri qo-<br />
rdiT, moniSnuli rkaliTa da<br />
qordis orive mxridan daSvebul<br />
radiusTa Sorisi kuTxiT.<br />
amocanis ZiriTadi kiTxvaa, _<br />
ra sigrZisaa rkali?<br />
pasuxi moiTxovs Semdeg martiv<br />
ariTmetikul moqmedebaTa Cata-<br />
rebas:<br />
1) davadginoT fuZesa da sima-<br />
Rles Soris Sefardebis ricxvi-<br />
Ti mniSvneloba da<br />
2) gavamravloT igi fuZeze<br />
(miRebuli namravli gamoyenebul<br />
unda iqnas kuTxis simaRlis garvamagebuli<br />
ricxviTi mniSvnelo-<br />
bis gamyofad);<br />
3) gavamravloT kuTxis simaR-<br />
le ricxv rvaze;<br />
dabolos:<br />
4) gavyoT es garvamagebuli<br />
ricxvi Cven mier winare moqmede-<br />
baTa (kerZod, mesamis) SemweobiTa<br />
da Sedegad miRebulze.<br />
am bolo moqmedebis (anu gar-<br />
vamagebuli simaRlis gayofis)<br />
Sedegad egad miRebuli ricxvis saxiT<br />
gveqneba rkalis sigrZis damdgeni<br />
(Cven mier ,,jerad ricxvad” moxs-<br />
eniebuli) gamyofi im wrewirisa,<br />
romelic warmodgeba mocemuli<br />
tolferdas ferdTa (igive radi-<br />
usTa oreulis) jamis namravliT<br />
pi ricxvze.<br />
saxeldobr, am bolo operaci-<br />
is Sedegad miRebuli, igive jera-<br />
dad wodebuli ricxvi warmog-<br />
vidgeba im saSualebad, romliTac<br />
gveZleva SesaZlebloba, absoluturi<br />
sizustiT iqnes uzrunvely-<br />
ofili wrewiris rkalis sigrZis<br />
ricxviTi mniSvnelobis dadgenac.<br />
Sedegis utyuaroba dadastur-<br />
ebulia araerTjeradi SemowmebiT.<br />
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erTiani saprezidento kandidatis idea dRiTi dRe aqtu-<br />
aluri xdeba. opoziciaSi „dimitri gelovanis” Zebnis procesi<br />
saakaSvilis gancxadebis Semdeg kidev ufro gaaqtiurda. yo-<br />
fili prezidentis pozicia, sul mcire, imas niSnavs, rom „na-<br />
cionaluri moZraoba” mzadaa, ar daayenos Tavisi partiuli<br />
kandidati da erTiani opoziciuri kandidatis SesarCev kon-<br />
sultaciebSi CaerTos.<br />
uli gulwrfelobiT SesaniSnavad<br />
warmoaCens Tavisi qmris politikuri<br />
gundis survilebsa da orientirebs.<br />
Tavad ugulavas cixidan<br />
ganTavisuflebac erTi didi kiTxvis<br />
niSania, romelic „evropul saqarTvelosTan”<br />
dakavSirebiT aqvs<br />
sazogadoebas. rogor aRmoCnda<br />
aZes daabraleben erTianobidan<br />
TavianT gaZromas da xan _ saakaSvils.<br />
Tumca Sejerdeba Tu ara er-<br />
Tiani saprezidento kandidati, es<br />
mxolod erTi partiis neba-survilze<br />
araa damokidebuli. Tu „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelo” calke aRmo-<br />
Cndeba, amiT procesi namdvilad ar<br />
biciebs sxvebic amJRavneben, magaliTad<br />
daviT usufaSvili, romelic<br />
martSi qveynis gadarCenis jer arnaxuli<br />
gegmis gacnobas gvpirdeba.<br />
parlamentis Tavmjdomareobis Semdeg<br />
usufaSvilis garSemo bevri<br />
molodini gaCnda, magram, imavdroulad,<br />
_ bevri kiTxvis niSanic. ra<br />
ivaniSvilis mTavari koSmari<br />
opoziciis erTiani<br />
saprezidento kandidati<br />
vin emzadeba erTobis CasaSlelad?<br />
„nacionalebis” es pozicia, bunebrivia,<br />
erTiani kandidatis ideis<br />
ganxorcielebas kidev ufro realisturs<br />
xdis, Tumca yvelaze saintereso<br />
politikuri procesi<br />
saakaSvilis gancxadebis Semdeg ganviTarda.<br />
rogorc ki yofilma prezidentma<br />
saprezidento arCevnebze er-<br />
Tiani kandidatis garSemo opoziciis<br />
gaerTianebas dauWira mxari,<br />
pirveli, vinc amis gamo aRSfoTda<br />
da SeSfoTda, ara „qarTuli ocneba”,<br />
aramed „nacionalebisgan” gamoyofili<br />
„evropuli saqarTvelo”<br />
aRmoCnda. maT Zalian mtkivneulad<br />
ganicades is perspeqtiva, rom opozicias,<br />
SesaZloa, saerTo kandidati<br />
hyavdes. es yvelaferi maT gancxadebebSi<br />
warmoCinda, roca saerTo<br />
kandidatis garSemo dawyebul<br />
konsultaciebSi CarTvaze, mzadyofnis<br />
nacvlad, yvelas isteriuli<br />
lanZRva daiwyes, upirveles yovlisa,<br />
yofili prezidentisa da yofili<br />
parlamentis Tavmjdomaris.<br />
bokeria-ugulavas gundis aseTi<br />
gawiwmateba, bunebrivia, Tavad saakaSvilis<br />
gancxadebebmac gamoiwvia.<br />
ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, saakaSvilis<br />
gancxadebebma „evropul saqarTvelos”<br />
imis saSualeba misca,<br />
rom erTiani kandidatis Sesaxeb ki<br />
aRar elaparakaT, aramed yofili<br />
liderisTvis pasuxis dabrunebaze<br />
meti aqcenti gaekeTebinaT.<br />
saakaSvilma, sityva-sityviT, Semdegi<br />
ganacxada: „me aravisTan ar<br />
gamovricxav TanamSromlobas, garda<br />
rusebis im Ria agentebisa, rogorebic<br />
arian inaSvili da viRacebi.<br />
ra Tqma unda, arc „evropul saqarTvelosTan”<br />
gamovricxav Tanam-<br />
Sromlobas. is xalxi, vinc „evropul<br />
saqarTveloSia”, Tu isini ar arian<br />
pirdapir ivaniSvils miyidulebi<br />
da me namdvilad mimaCnia, rom<br />
aseTi xalxic aris iq, Tumca umetesoba<br />
maTgans es ar exeba, am xalx-<br />
Tan aris samuSao. im xalxs maqsimalurad<br />
unda xelis Sewyoba da samomavlo<br />
gaerTianebaSi Semoyvana”.<br />
yofil TanagundelebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT aseTi gancxadeba, bunebrivia,<br />
Zalian mravalmxrivi interpretaciis<br />
saSualebas iZleva.<br />
pirvel rigSi, naTlad Cans, _ saakaSvili<br />
darwmunebulia, rom „evropul<br />
saqarTveloSi” arian politikuri<br />
liderebi, romlebmac ivaniSvilisgan<br />
fuli aiRes (savaraudod,<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” gasaxleCad<br />
da TavianTi partiis Camosayalibeblad),<br />
Tumca arian iseTebic,<br />
romlebsac, misi varaudiT,<br />
fuli ar auRiaT da swored maT-<br />
Tan SeiZleba muSaoba. am gancxadebiT<br />
Cans, rom yofili prezidenti<br />
Tavisi gundis yofil wevrebs<br />
isev TavisTan epatiJeba. bunebrivia,<br />
rom es yvelaferi wonasworobas<br />
daakargvinebda „evropuli saqarTvelos”<br />
im liderebs, romlebic<br />
saakaSvilma Tavisi gancxadebiT,<br />
praqtikulad, Riad daadanaSaula<br />
ivaniSvilisgan fulis aRebaSi. aravisTvis<br />
saidumlo araa, rom am<br />
saqmeSi mTavari eWvmitanilebi arian<br />
moZraobis uSualo liderebi,<br />
giga bokeria da gigi ugulava. yvelaze<br />
mZafri reaqcia saakaSvilis<br />
gancxadebas swored maTgan mohyva.<br />
giga bokeriam eqsprezidentis winadadebas<br />
„gadagvarebuli lideris<br />
urTierTgamomricxavi azrebis<br />
bodva” uwoda. misive TqmiT:<br />
„prodasavluri opozicia unda TanamSromlobdes.<br />
ubralod, es TanamSromloba<br />
ver iqneba saakaSvilis<br />
figuris garSemo TanamSromloba”.<br />
kidev ufro Sors wavida da yofil<br />
liderTan dasabrunebeli yvela<br />
xidis dawva gadawyvita „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” araformalurma<br />
liderma, ufro zustad, lideris<br />
colis statusis mqone Tamar<br />
CergoleiSvilma. man super liberaluri<br />
wyevla-krulva gaugzavna<br />
erT dros mis uZlieres liders:<br />
„gadagvarebuli politikuri impotentis,<br />
igive miSa saakaSvilis intervius<br />
da braldebebs rac Seexeba<br />
_ eg toqsikuri da boroti klouni<br />
rac met braldebas isvris Cveni<br />
misamarTiT, miT ukeTesi. Cven unda<br />
vupasuxoT, vupasuxoT mxolod<br />
imitom, rom kidev ufro naTeli<br />
gaxdes, rom mag moralurad degradirebul<br />
arsebasTan aRaraferi<br />
gvakavSirebs. magram gulisrevis<br />
garda, cxadia, arafers imsaxurebs<br />
eg safrTxobela”, _ wers CergoleiSvili<br />
da Tavisi arastandart-<br />
ugulava, yovelgvari Sewyalebisa<br />
da sxva kanonieri meqanizmebis gareSe,<br />
Tavisuflebaze? rodidan<br />
gaxda patimris ganTavisuflebisTvis<br />
sakmarisi argumenti is, rom<br />
man nawilobriv aRiara danaSauli?!!<br />
es da kidev sxva bevri kiTxva<br />
araerTxel amotivtivdeba, Tumca<br />
dRes es ar gaxlavT Cveni ganxilvis<br />
sagani.<br />
bokeria-ugulavas gundis pirvelma<br />
reaqciebma, erTiani opoziciuri<br />
kandidatis garSemo konsolidaciaze,<br />
ukve bevri ram gaxada na-<br />
Teli. pirvel rigSi is, rom „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelo” yvelafers<br />
ecdeba, rogorme am erTobas dausxltes<br />
da Tavisi partiuli kandidati<br />
daayenos. amisTvis bokeria<br />
yvelanair mizezs moiSveliebs. magaliTad<br />
imas, Tu rogor gaubeda<br />
miSam da rogor uwoda mas biZinas<br />
mosyiduli; an, magaliTad, burjanaZis<br />
faqtors aamoqmedebs. rogor<br />
SeiZleba, prorusul partiebTan<br />
erTad saerTo kandidatze vimsjeloT?<br />
da a. S. arada, SarSan,<br />
roca burjanaZesTan, „patriotTa<br />
aliansTan” da kidev bevr sxva araprodasavlur<br />
partiasTan erTad<br />
erTiani konstituciis varianti<br />
iwereboda, bokeriasa da ugulavas<br />
amis gamo diskomforti ar SeqmniaT.<br />
rogorc Cans, am diskomfortis<br />
gamomwvevi mizezi ara Tavad politikuri<br />
procesi, aramed qveynis kuluaruli<br />
mmarTvelia. Tu biZinas<br />
es ar anerviulebs, „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” liderebi burjanaZesTanac<br />
dasxdebian salaparakod<br />
da nebismier sxvasTTanac, magram<br />
Tu mama-marCenals ar endomeba,<br />
mizezebs ra dalevs da xan burjan-<br />
SeCerdeba, samagierod, „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” saboloo lustracia<br />
moxdeba. aseve araa gamoricxuli,<br />
rom amas Tavad partiis seriozuli<br />
rRvevac mohyves, radgan<br />
eWvgareSea, rom ase Riad ivaniSvilis<br />
TamaSi am gundis bevr wevrs<br />
SeiZleba, arc moundes.<br />
amasobaSi ki arasaparlamento<br />
opoziciuri partiebi ukve adastureben,<br />
rom 2018 wlis oqtombris<br />
saprezidento arCevnebisTvis saerTo<br />
kandidatis gamosavlenad politikuri<br />
konsultaciebi aqtiurad<br />
mimdinareobs. Tan es procesi<br />
ukve sam Tveze metia, daiwyo da<br />
movlenaTa SesaZlo ganviTarebis<br />
bevri scenaric moiTela. saprezidento<br />
arCevnebSi monawileobis<br />
Sesaxeb Salva naTelaSvilma da nino<br />
burjanaZem ganacxades. maT, imavdroulad,<br />
gaaxmovanes, rom saer-<br />
To kandidatis SerCevis process<br />
xels ar SeuSlian da Tu aseTi ram<br />
realurad moxerxda, maTi xmac saerTo<br />
yulabas SeuerTdeba. Tumca<br />
burjanaZem isic ganacxada, rom<br />
masze ukeTes kandidats opozicia<br />
versad ipovis. „Cemze ukeTesad<br />
amas, principSi, naklebad Tu vinme<br />
gaakeTebs”, _ ganacxada parlamentis<br />
yofilma spikerma da Tavisi Tavi<br />
opoziciis saerTo kandidatebis<br />
saerTo siaSi mkafiod moniSna.<br />
igive svla gaakeTa Salva naTelaSvilmac.<br />
man pirvelma gaaJRera<br />
Tavisi saprezidento ambiciebis<br />
Sesaxeb da yvelas araorazrovnad<br />
Seaxsena, rom is 25 welia, ibrZvis<br />
prezidentobisTvis da axlac amis-<br />
Tvis apirebs brZolas.<br />
SedarebiT mokrZalebulad, magram<br />
TavianT saprezidento am-<br />
politikur poziciazea dRes daviT<br />
usufaSvili? aris is realurad<br />
opozicia, Tu nelTbil politikur<br />
partiebs kidev erTi daemateba?<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi im faqtma,<br />
rom arCevnebis Semdeg usufaSvils<br />
erTi sityvac ar dascdenia<br />
gayalbebaze da arc erT saerTo<br />
opoziciur protests Tu sarCels<br />
is ar SeuerTda, bevri daafiqra.<br />
apolitikur sainiciativo<br />
jgufs eZebs kvlav aleko elisaSvili,<br />
romelic, albaT, kvlav<br />
damoukidebel kandidatad mogvevlineba<br />
da kvlav xelisuflebis<br />
resursiT antiopoziciur saqmes<br />
gaakeTebs. Tu opozicia erTian<br />
kandidatze SeTanxmda, elisaSvilis<br />
kandidatura „ocnebisTvis” kidev<br />
ufro mniSvnelovani gaxdeba,<br />
vidre es Tbilisis meris arCevnebze<br />
iyo. opoziciis mier saerTo<br />
kandidatis dasaxelebas erTi ZiriTadi<br />
mizani aqvs: is, rom opozicia<br />
erTmaneTs xmebs aRar waarTmevs<br />
da yvela opoziciurad ganwyobili<br />
amomrCevlis xma saerTo kandidatis<br />
yulabaSi wava. esaa xelisuflebisTvis<br />
movlenaTa ganviTarebis<br />
yvelaze arasasurveli scenari.<br />
maSveli rgoli ki isev elisa-<br />
Svili SeiZleba gaxdes, romelsac,<br />
xelisuflebis davalebiT, saxelisuflebo<br />
televiziebi dRe da Rame<br />
daapiareben da amomrCevels misi<br />
saxiT alternativas SesTavazeben,<br />
_ ar mogwonT arc erTi partia, amogividaT<br />
yelSi politika, ai, upartio<br />
da apolitikuri elisaSvili...<br />
gagrZeleba 31-e gv.<br />
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`amasobaSi ki arasaparlamento opoziciuri<br />
partiebi ukve adastureben, rom 2018 wlis<br />
oqtombris saprezidento arCevnebisTvis<br />
saerTo kandidatis gamosavlenad politikuri<br />
konsultaciebi aqtiurad mimdinareobs. Tan es<br />
procesi ukve sam Tveze metia, daiwyo da<br />
movlenaTa SesaZlo ganviTarebis bevri<br />
scenaric moiTela. saprezidento arCevnebSi<br />
monawileobis Sesaxeb Salva naTelaSvilma da<br />
nino burjanaZem ganacxades. maT, imavdroulad,<br />
gaaxmovanes, rom saerTo kandidatis SerCevis<br />
process xels ar SeuSlian da Tu aseTi ram<br />
realurad moxerxda, maTi xmac saerTo<br />
yulabas SeuerTdeba~<br />
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elene induaSvili<br />
„qronika+~-s Tbilisis #31-e sabavSvo baRis yofili Tanam-<br />
Sromlis Svili, qalbatoni lali mWedliSvili, daukavSirda da<br />
dedamiss _ cisana beriZesa da baRis gamge Tea efremiZes Soris<br />
dapirispirebis detalebze esaubra. sabavSvo baRis gamge sxva Tan-<br />
amSromels _ xaTuna maCaiZesac daupirispirda da gaaTavisufla.<br />
Cven davinteresdiT, ra iyo maT<br />
Soris dapirispirebis mTavari mizezebi.<br />
rogorc gairkva, dapirispireba<br />
krebidan daiwyo:<br />
erT-erT krebaze baRis maswavlebelma<br />
xaTuna maCaiZem gamge Tea<br />
efremiZes nebarTva sTxova, bavSvebisTvis<br />
gankuTvnili sakvebis dar-<br />
Cenili nawili, gadayris magivrad,<br />
baRis gaWirvebuli TanamSromlisTvis<br />
mieca. „me ver daviZineb, roca<br />
vici, rom Cemi kolega mSieria”,<br />
_ aRniSna xaTuna maCaiZem.<br />
pedagogebma gaiziares misi azri,<br />
maT Soris, cisana beriZemac. gamgem<br />
calke saubrisas xaTuna maCaiZes<br />
ganucxada, rom misi saqcieliT<br />
TiTqos aRmzrdelebs umxedrebda.<br />
pedagogebsa da TanamSromlebs,<br />
gamgis moTxovniT, sakuWnaoSi Cumad,<br />
malulad uwevT kveba.<br />
uaxloes warsulSi xaTuna ma-<br />
CaiZes ojaxuri problemebis gamo<br />
(Svilis avadmyofoba) biuletenis<br />
aReba mouwia. vadis gasvlis Semdeg<br />
man gamges Seatyobina, rom samsaxurSi<br />
dabrunebas ver axerxebda,<br />
razec sapasuxod gamgisgan dapireba<br />
miiRo, rom aranairi problema<br />
ar Seiqmneboda, Tumca samsaxurSi<br />
dabrunebul xaTunas ufrosma misi<br />
ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb acnoba.<br />
aRniSnul sakiTxze xaTuna maCaiZem<br />
sasamarTlos mimarTa moTxovniT,<br />
dausabuTon, Tu ratom dakarga man<br />
samsaxuri.<br />
Cveni respondentisgan vigebT,<br />
rom Tea efremiZisTvis ar aRmoCnda<br />
sakmarisi erTi TanamSromlis<br />
samsaxuridan gaSveba da man misi<br />
dedac, cisana beriZe, ararealuri<br />
mizeziT gaaTavisufla.<br />
lali mWedliSvili, ganTavisu-<br />
flebuli cisana beriZis Svili:<br />
_ gamgesa da qalbaton cisanas<br />
Soris dapirispireba ufro adre<br />
daiwyo asakobrivi zRvaris gamo.<br />
dedas moixseniebda, rogorc „bebers”,<br />
xolo baRs, rogorc „saTnoebis<br />
saxls”.<br />
_ es informacia Tqvenamde<br />
rogor movida?<br />
_ dedas telefoniT vesaubrebodi.<br />
laparakis dros yovelTvis<br />
mesmoda bavSvebis xma. vkiTxe, _ sad<br />
xar-meTqi? da man tiriliT mipasuxa,<br />
rom mas erT-erTi moswavlisTvis<br />
fexis dadgmas abraleben da<br />
amis gamo ganTavisuflebis gancxadebaze<br />
awerinebda xels gamge, Tea<br />
efremiZe.<br />
meore dRes es ambavi Cemma Zmam,<br />
vladimer mWedliSvilmac gaigo. is<br />
gamgesTan mivida da uTxra, _ Tu<br />
qalbatonma cisanam rame daaSava, me<br />
vixdi bodiSs, rom Tqven SegawuxeT,<br />
aseve bavSvis mSobelsac movuxdi<br />
bodiSs im SemTxvevaSi, Tu videoTvaliT<br />
dafiqsirebul kadrebs<br />
maCvenebTo, razedac qalbatonma<br />
Team uari ganucxada da mosTxova,<br />
rom daetovebina sabavSvo baRi.<br />
am ambis Semdeg gamgem „dazaralebuli”<br />
bavSvis mSobeli daibara<br />
da saTvalTvalo kameris kadrebi<br />
aCvena, Tumca mSobelma ganacxada,<br />
rom aRmzrdels, am kadrebis mixedviT,<br />
misi SvilisTvis fexi ar daudgams.<br />
„ra Tqma unda, is skamze zis,<br />
radgan beberia”, _ ase moixsenia<br />
mSoblis TandaswrebiT gamgem yofili<br />
TanamSromeli.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom bavSvis<br />
mSobels aranairi pretenzia ar<br />
aqvs da ar apirebda saCivris Setanas,<br />
aRniSnulze pasuxismgebloba<br />
aiRo baRis axali TanamSromelma,<br />
Teona maxaraSvilma, romelmac<br />
daadastura, rom kadrebSi dainaxa,<br />
rogor daadga fexi aRmzrdelma<br />
aRsazrdels, Tumca ara imas, vizec<br />
gamge edaveboda, aramed mis Svils<br />
(Teona maxaraSvilis Svilic amave<br />
baRis aRsazrdelia).<br />
cisana beriZe uaryofs im faqts,<br />
rom man Tavis moswavles fexi daadga<br />
da ambobs, rom misi ganTavisufleba<br />
samsaxuridan ukanonoa.<br />
amJamad am davasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sasamarTlo mimdinareobs.<br />
_ Tqven ambobT, rom baRSi axa-<br />
lmiRebul vinme Tea beriZes, rom-<br />
elic dedaTqvens pirze adgas,<br />
sxva maswavleblebis mimarTac<br />
aqvs agresia. riT SegiZliaT es<br />
axsnaT, aT, an daadasturoT?<br />
_ bavSvebis sauzmis dro iyo,<br />
rodesac qalbatoni, romlis vinaobasac<br />
gamiznulad ar vasaxeleb,<br />
misive surviliT, sadilis asaRebad<br />
mivida. iqve Tea efremiZe imyofeboda.<br />
sasadilos TanamSromels<br />
qudi exura, saidanac Tma uCanda.<br />
amis gamo gamgem agresiulad moglija<br />
qudi Tavidan da Zirs daugdo,<br />
xolo TviTon dadgenil wesebs ar<br />
daemorCila da Tavsaburavis gareSe<br />
Sevida sasadilo oTaxSi.<br />
qalbatoni Tea efremiZis mxridan<br />
Seuracxmyofeli terminebisa<br />
da replikebis gamoyenebas mSoblebic<br />
adastureben, am ambebis Semdeg<br />
ki yvela sabuTis mopoveba daviwye<br />
sasamarTloSi warsadgenad.<br />
gadavwyvite, aseve, dedis daxasiaTeba<br />
mimetana sasamarTlo procesze.<br />
daxasiaTebaze TanamSromlebis<br />
xelmowera mWirdeboda. ramdenime<br />
dRis Semdeg baRSi mivedi,<br />
sadac meTodisti Semxvda. mas furceli<br />
gavuwode da vuTxari, rom<br />
mxolod Tanxmobaze an uaryofaze<br />
unda moewera xeli. meTodistma mi-<br />
Txra, _ gamges vaCveneb da vkiTxav,<br />
Semeqmneba Tu ara problemebi xelmoweris<br />
gamoo? amaze vupasuxe, _<br />
nuTu, Tqveni azri ar gagaCniaT-me-<br />
Tqi?.. CvenTan erTad imyofeboda<br />
erT-erTi maswavlebeli, romelmac<br />
am faqtis mere gadawyvita, daxasiaTebis<br />
furceli aeRo da miTxra,<br />
rom me mivitan TanamSromlebTan<br />
da xelmowerebs SevagrovebT cisana<br />
maswvleblisTviso. Semdeg wamovedi,<br />
am ambis momswre iq myofi<br />
mSoblebi iyvnen.<br />
ramdenime dRis Semdeg cisana<br />
beriZes misi TanamSromlebi ukav-<br />
Sirdebian da uxsnian, rom gamge<br />
Tea efremiZe maT problemebs uqmnis<br />
da ukrZalavs xelmoweras daxasiaTebaze.<br />
Tea efremiZis reaqciis Semdeg<br />
iZulebuli gavxdi, baRSi wavsuliyavi,<br />
radgan pedagogoebis ufleba-movaleoba<br />
mindoda wamekiTxa da<br />
amomewera. meTodistis kabinetis<br />
win momiwia gaCereba, Cem mopirdapire<br />
mxares Tea efremiZe krebas<br />
atarebda. Cemi yuriT gavigone, Tu<br />
rogor uyviroda pedagogebs qalbatoni<br />
Tea da ekiTxeboda, Tu vin<br />
Seatyobina cisana maswavlebels<br />
daxasiaTebasTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
Team gadawyvita, TanamSromlebis<br />
mimarT muqaraze gadasuliyo,<br />
rom „jeoselis” ofisSi mividoda<br />
da TanamSromlebisve dawerili gancxadebebis<br />
safuZvelze miiRebda<br />
amonawers Semosuli da gasuli<br />
zarebs Sesaxeb. amiT gaigebda, Tu<br />
vin miawoda informacia da vin daukavSirda<br />
cisana maswavlebels, gagebuli<br />
informaciis Semdeg ki yvelas<br />
gauSvebda samsaxuridan. krebis<br />
paralelurad, qalbatoni Tea<br />
telefonze saubrobda da viRacasTan<br />
arkvevda, ra da rogor unda<br />
gaekeTebina am sakiTxTan dakav-<br />
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dapirispireba<br />
31-e baga-baRSi:<br />
aRmzrdeli gamges<br />
ciliswamebasa da<br />
ukanonod<br />
ganTavisuflebaSi<br />
adanaSaulebs<br />
SirebiT.<br />
5 dekembers diliT mivedi sabav-<br />
So baRSi, rom daxasiaTebis furceli<br />
wamomeRo, TanaSemwe Semxvda<br />
da miTxra: „iseTi problema Segveqmneboda<br />
daxasiaTebaze xelismoweris<br />
gamo, rom furclebis daxeva<br />
mogviwia”.<br />
me da Teas saerTo megobari<br />
gvyavs, mas davureke da vuTxari,<br />
rom sjobda, Tea ar wasuliyo „jeoselSi”,<br />
radgan Tu igi am gziT Seecdeboda<br />
informaciis garkvevas,<br />
me sasamarTlos ZaliT gavarkvevdi,<br />
Tu ris safuZvelze moiTxova<br />
amonaweri „jeoselidan” da es kidev<br />
Cemi damatebiTi mtkicebuleba<br />
iqneboda Tea efremiZis winaaRmdeg.<br />
_ yvelafris miuxedavad, sasamarTlosTvis<br />
informaciis mop-<br />
ovebas agrZelebdiT?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, sasamarTlosTvis<br />
mtkicebulebis mopovebas isev<br />
vagrZelebdi, xSirad miwevda Teas-<br />
Tan Sexeba da momixseniebda, rogorc<br />
intrigans.<br />
mxolod TeasTan ar mqonia SekamaTeba,<br />
Taliko CanqselianTan (31-<br />
e baRis iuristi) Sexvedrac momiwia.<br />
Talikomac Semiqmna problema<br />
sabuTebis SegrovebasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, radgan msurda, logopedis<br />
axsna-ganmarteba da krebis<br />
oqmi mimeRo.<br />
amdeni winaaRmdegobisa da Taliko<br />
CanqselianTan dapirispirebis<br />
mere iZulebuli gavxdi, misTvis<br />
meTqva, rom patruls gamoviZaxebdi,<br />
an saCivars davwerdi mis saxelze.<br />
roca es yvelaferi vuTxari,<br />
mas gaecina, radgan Taliko Canqseliani<br />
iuristia da misive TqmiT,<br />
saCivars TviTonve ganixilavda da<br />
TviTonve gamoitanda daskvnas.<br />
yvela winaaRmdegobis miuxedavad,<br />
sabuTebis nawilis wamoReba<br />
movaxerxe, magram videomasalebi<br />
ar gadmomces. amaze iZulebuli<br />
gavxdi, saCivriT mimemarTa „bagabaRebis<br />
marTvis saagentosTvis”,<br />
sadac Sevxvdi direqtoris moadgile<br />
nino burZeniZes. masTan gavisaubre,<br />
velaparake zemoT aRniSnul<br />
problemebze, man momismina,<br />
saCivari miiRo, ganixila da damidastura,<br />
rom aravis ganuxilavs<br />
msgavsi informacia cisana beriZis<br />
ganTavisuflebis Sesaxeb. mirCia,<br />
rom Sevxvedrodi direqtor kaxaber<br />
gvancelaZes.<br />
sanam direqtors SevxvdebodiT,<br />
meore moadgile, administraciis<br />
ufrosi daviT kekenaZe vnaxeT, masac<br />
gadaveci sruli informacia. mi-<br />
Txra, rom igi yvela sakiTxSi gaerkveoda.<br />
gasaubrebis dros gvancelaZem<br />
Canqselianis Sesaxeb mkiTxa, Tu<br />
ratom hyavs mxolod erT baRs<br />
iuristi? sabolood, baRSi arsebul<br />
mdgomareobaze movaxsene...<br />
_ ra girCiaT kaxaber gvan-<br />
celaZem?<br />
_ Semegrovebina yvela detali<br />
da gancxadeba Semetana baga-baRebis<br />
saagentoSi; gancxadeba gamekeTebina<br />
aseve imis Sesaxeb, rom Canqselianma<br />
videomasala ar gadmomca.<br />
Sevitane gancxadeba kancelariaSi<br />
gvancelaZis miTiTebiT, sadac<br />
araswori wesiT miiRes igi.<br />
kancelariaSi muSaobs Taliko<br />
Canqselianis da, amitom vifiqre,<br />
rom aucileblad mis xelSi moxvdeboda<br />
Cemi gancxadeba. moviTxove,<br />
rom Cemi uflebebis dacviT<br />
aeRoT gancxadeba, moeweraT xeli<br />
da registaciis nomeri moecaT.<br />
rogorc vivaraude, mTxovdnen<br />
meTqva, ra informacia iyo gancxadebaSi,<br />
radgan uke mcnobdnen da<br />
icodnen, Tu rasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
mivdiodi maTTan. kategoriulad<br />
moviTxove, rom Cemi saCivari da<br />
gancxadeba Canqselians ar ganexila,<br />
Tumca gamovedi Tu ara, gancxadeba<br />
ukve maT xelT iyo.<br />
_ Semdeg raime pasuxi miiReT<br />
kaxaber gvancelaZisgan?<br />
_ saboolo pasuxi eleqtronuli<br />
fostiT miviRe, sadac ewera,<br />
rom baRis administracias braleuloba<br />
ar miuZRvis, xels awerda<br />
kaxaber gvancelaZe.<br />
mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi Tea<br />
efremiZe ambobda, rom mas veravin<br />
Seexeba. minda, simarTle gavigo:<br />
ratom veravin Seexeba?!<br />
dedaCemi, romelic 74 wlisaa,<br />
muSaobis 46 wlis uwyvet staJs<br />
iTvlis. mas sruli ufleba aqvs,<br />
rom imuSaos da amas 49 mSoblis xelmowerac<br />
adasturebs, sadac iTxoven,<br />
rom dbrundes cisana maswavlebeli<br />
da mzad arian, sasamarTloze<br />
wardgen. amboben, rom yvelaferi<br />
tyuilia, rac TiTqosda<br />
„dasvrili CustiT” aRsazrdelisTvis<br />
fexis dabijebas exeba.<br />
aRniSnuli saqme bundovanebiT<br />
moculia, Cveni respondenti ki simarTlis<br />
garkvevisTvis brZolas<br />
bolomde apirebs da imedovnebs,<br />
rom yvelaferi dedamisis sasargeblod<br />
dasruldeba.<br />
„qronika+~-ma ramdenjerme scada,<br />
meore mxares, _ baga-baRis administracias<br />
dakavSireboda, Tumca<br />
amaod. mas Semdeg, rac Tea efremiZes<br />
(gamge) davukavSirdiT, man<br />
jer ganacxada, rom telefoniT<br />
komentaris gakeTeba ar surs, Tumca<br />
alternatiul SeTavazebaze,<br />
rom baRSi mividodiT da iq CavwerdiT,<br />
ar gvipasuxa, mogvianebiT ki<br />
mis mobilurze zars sxva qalbatoni<br />
pasuxobda da gveubneboda, rom<br />
qalbatoni Tea gasulia.<br />
„qronika+~ werilSi naxseneb pirebs,<br />
maTi survilis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
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Tis gverdebs momdevno nomerSi<br />
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mcire bizness valdebuleba<br />
eqneba, kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dadgenil SemTxvevebSi gamoiyenos<br />
mxolod sakontrolosalaro<br />
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zednadebi”.<br />
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ian brunvis gadasaxads Tvis<br />
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cnobilia, rom axali sakanonmdeblo<br />
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mier inicirebul sxva reformebTan<br />
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periodSi davaanonsebT, saSualebas<br />
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rogorc es aRniSnulia yvela<br />
wamyvani saerTaSoriso finansuri<br />
institutis angariSSi”, _<br />
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aRniSnuli gancxadebis gakeTebas<br />
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basTan aqtiuri komunikaciis<br />
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ReT:<br />
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aqvs axali reformebis talRa.<br />
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gaeparaT, naxsenebi iyo termini `brunvis<br />
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mixedviT, azrobrivad sworic iqneba,<br />
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finansTa saministros mier yvela<br />
im garemoebis detaluri analizi<br />
gakeTda, romelic aRniSnul<br />
reformas exeba. mimdinare<br />
wlis sabiujeto parametrebis<br />
Sesrulebis mimarTulebiT<br />
riskebi ar arsebobs.<br />
aRniSnuli reforma SeTanxmebulia<br />
saerTaSoriso savaluto<br />
fondTan. Sesabamisad, arsebobs<br />
mxolod pozitiuri molodini<br />
imisa, rom saSualovadian<br />
da grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi<br />
moxdeba sagadamxdelo bazis<br />
zrda da Sedegad, qveynis biujetSi<br />
damatebiT Semosavlebs<br />
miviRebT.<br />
_ ra gavlenas iqoniebs igi<br />
rogorc qveynis ekonomikaze,<br />
ise mewarmeTa zogad mdgomar-<br />
eobasa da eqsportis wilze?<br />
_ saqarTvelos mTavrobis,<br />
finansTa saministros axali iniciativa,<br />
sxva reformebTan er-<br />
Tad, saSualebas iZleva, kidev<br />
ufro daCqardes ekonomikuri<br />
zrda da saqarTvelo gaxdes<br />
lideri qveyana regionSi ekonomikuri<br />
zrdis TvalsazrisiT,<br />
rogorc es aRniSnulia yvela<br />
wamyvani saerTaSoriso finansuri<br />
institutis angariSSi. rac<br />
Seexeba mewarmeTa zogad mdgomareobas,<br />
kidev erTxel unda<br />
aRiniSnos, rom axali sagadasaxado<br />
iniciativa, erTi mxriv, daawesebs<br />
uprecedentod dabal<br />
sagadasaxado tvirTs 1%-is odenobiT,<br />
xolo, meore mxriv,<br />
mniSvnelovnad gaamartivebs sagadasaxado<br />
administrirebas.<br />
mewarmeebi rac SeiZleba nakleb<br />
dros unda xarjavdnen sagadasaxado<br />
organoebTan urTier-<br />
Tobisas da isini mTlianad unda<br />
iyvnen fokusirebulebi TavianT<br />
ekonomikur saqmianobaze. miRebuli<br />
gadawyvetilebiT mcire<br />
mewarmeebi ganTavisufldebian<br />
damatebiTi buRalteriis warmoebisgan.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis<br />
mier ganxorcielebuli da<br />
dagegmili reformebis mizania,<br />
rac SeZleba meti adamiani dasaqmdes,<br />
Seiqmnas winapirobebi sa-<br />
Sualo da mcire biznesis ganvi-<br />
TarebisTvis da ekonomikuri<br />
zrda iyos yovlismomcveli da<br />
TiToeul moqalaqes Seexos.<br />
saintereso gaxldaT sferos<br />
eqspertebis Sefasebebi aRniSnul<br />
sakiTxze, Tu ramdenad<br />
sworad gaTvlili reformaa igi<br />
da ra Sedegebs SeiZleba velodoT<br />
misgan?<br />
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akaki comaia<br />
Jimi moqmedebs. es Tanabrobis<br />
princips arRvevs _ zogierTi<br />
ufro privilegirebul mdgomareobaSia,<br />
zogi _ naklebad. me<br />
problemas ufro am nawilSi<br />
vxedav.<br />
zogadad ki gadasaxadebis<br />
Semcirebas mivesalmebi, magram<br />
sasurveli iqneba, Tu es sagadasaxado<br />
baza da tvirTi Tanabrad<br />
Semcirdeba yvelaze da ara<br />
mxlod erT jgufze. swored es<br />
gaxlavT am reformis uaryofi-<br />
Ti mxare, amdenad zust Sefasebas<br />
ver gavakeTeb, rom mcire<br />
mewarmeebisTvis ekonomikuri<br />
stimulis micema met mcire mewarmes<br />
warmoSobs, an isini met<br />
ekonomikur aqtivobas ganavi-<br />
Tareben, Sedegad ki met Semosavals<br />
moitanen, an meti adamiani<br />
dasaqmdeba am jgufze gazrdili<br />
SeRavaTebis gamo.<br />
rac Seexeba biujetze gavlenas,<br />
roca vsaubrobT mcire mewarmeebze,<br />
aq ar moiazreba sazogadoebis<br />
didi jgufi, saidanac<br />
gadasaxadebidan miRebuli<br />
Semosavlis mniSvnelovani nawili<br />
formirdeba, Sesabamisad,<br />
ar mgonia, rom sagadasaxado Semosavlebis<br />
kuTxiT saxelmwifom<br />
didi Semosavali dakargos.<br />
xolo is faqti, rom saerTa-<br />
Soriso savaluto fondi mxars<br />
uWers raime konkretul RonisZiebas<br />
an reformas, ar niSnavs,<br />
rom igi calsaxad kargia da ar<br />
SeZleba am reformis gakritikebac<br />
ki.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom saer-<br />
TaSoriso savaluto fondis, an<br />
msoflio bankis warmomadgenlebis<br />
kvalifikaciaSi eWvi ar<br />
Semaqvs, Cemi pozicia maqvs da<br />
vfiqrob, rom am konkretul sakiTxSi<br />
arc savaluto fonds da<br />
arc sxva organizacias, romelic<br />
mxars uWers am wamowyebas, ar<br />
veTanxmebi da skeptikurad vuyureb<br />
am reformas. vemxrobi,<br />
roca gadasaxadebi da sagadasaxado<br />
tvirTi erTnairad mcirdeba<br />
absoluturad yvela biznessubieqtze<br />
da yvela Tanabar<br />
pirobebSi rCeba.<br />
soso arCvaZe _ ekonomikis<br />
eqsperti:<br />
_ gasul wels ZalaSi Sevida<br />
estonuri modeli, iq SezRudva<br />
ar iyo saSualo da msxvili biznesisTvis,<br />
magram ufro xel-<br />
CasaWidi maTTvis gaxda. axlandeli<br />
gadawyvitileba mcire mewarmeTa<br />
dasaxmareblad wingadadgmuli<br />
nabijia.<br />
aq garkveuli Sedegi namdvilad<br />
iqneba, imitom rom izrdeba<br />
mcire warmoebis zRvari,<br />
mcirdeba dabegvris forma da<br />
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`miuxedavad imisa, rom saerTaSoriso<br />
savaluto fondis, an msoflio bankis<br />
warmomadgenlebis kvalifikaciaSi eWvi ar<br />
Semaqvs, Cemi pozicia maqvs da vfiqrob,<br />
rom am konkretul sakiTxSi arc<br />
savaluto fonds da arc sxva<br />
organizacias, romelic mxars uWers am<br />
wamowyebas, ar veTanxmebi da skeptikurad<br />
vuyureb am reformas. vemxrobi, roca<br />
gadasaxadebi da sagadasaxado tvirTi<br />
erTnairad mcirdeba absoluturad<br />
yvela biznessubieqtze da yvela Tanabar<br />
pirobebSi rCeba~<br />
aman SeiZleba damatebiTi stimuli<br />
gauCinos ara marto amJamad<br />
moqmed mcire mewarmeebs, aramed<br />
im moqalaqeebs, romlebic<br />
dRemde rigi mizezebisa da, maT<br />
Soris, finansuri faqtorebis<br />
gamo „fexs iTrevdnen” am sferoSi<br />
CasarTavad. es xels Seuwyobs<br />
biznesaqtivebis gazrdas<br />
rogorc raodenobrivad, ise<br />
xarisxobrivad, geografiulad<br />
da ufro meti adamiani CaerTveba.<br />
saSualo da grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi<br />
bizness naklebi gadasaxadi<br />
eqneba, magram dasaqmebulTa<br />
Semosavali gaizrdeba<br />
da saSualo da grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi<br />
sakuTari gazrdili<br />
Semosavlebidan biujetSi<br />
meti Semosavali iqneba, amitom<br />
fiskaluri kuTxiT marto dRevandeliT<br />
ar unda vixelmZRv-<br />
aneloT, xvalindeli da momavlis<br />
perspeqtiviT ufro meti<br />
Tanxa Seva biujetSi da amas unda<br />
mivesalmoT. Tumca naTqvamia,<br />
„eSmakebi detalebSiao”, amitom<br />
rodesac aRniSnuli winadadeba<br />
parlamentSi kanonproeqtis<br />
saxiT Seva, kidev erTxel<br />
SevxedavT, SevafasebT rogorc<br />
Ria, ise dafarul aspeqtebs.<br />
rac Seexeba mcire biznesis<br />
statusis zeda zRvars, anu 500<br />
000 lars, saqarTveloSia es Tanxa<br />
didi masStabis, Torem evropaSi<br />
3 mln evroze naklebi<br />
brunva mcire biznesad iTvleba.<br />
im 100 000-lariani Semosavlisa<br />
da brunvis mqone biznesmensac<br />
eqneba saSualeba, stimuli<br />
da sakmaod didi perspeqtiva,<br />
rom brunva gaizados da 500<br />
000 lars miuaxlovos, an gascdes!<br />
saboloo jamSi, dadebiTad<br />
unda SevafasoT es reforma,<br />
Tumca yvelaze mniSvnelovania<br />
`zogadad ki gadasaxadebis Semcirebas mivesalmebi, magram sasurveli iqneba,<br />
Tu es sagadasaxado baza da tvirTi Tanabrad Semcirdeba yvelaze da ara<br />
mxlod erT jgufze. swored es gaxlavT am reformis uaryofiTi mxare,<br />
amdenad zust Sefasebas ver gavakeTeb, rom mcire mewarmeebisTvis<br />
ekonomikuri stimulis micema met mcire mewarmes warmoSobs, an isini met<br />
ekonomikur aqtivobas ganaviTareben, Sedegad ki met Semosavals moitanen, an<br />
meti adamiani dasaqmdeba am jgufze gazrdili SeRavaTebis gamo~<br />
`Cven dRes arsebul zRvars 5-jer vzrdiT. aseve, 5-<br />
jer vamcirebT gadasaxadebs Cveni mewarmeebisTvis<br />
da nacvlad dRes arsebuli 5%-iani zRvrisa,<br />
CamovdivarT 1%-ian niSnulamde. Cveni mizania,<br />
mewarmeebi, rac SeiZleba, nakleb dros xarjavdnen<br />
sagadasaxado organoebTan urTierTobisas da<br />
isini mTlianad iyvnen fokusirebulebi TavianT<br />
ekonomikur saqmianobaze. Cven miviReT<br />
gadawyvetileba, rom mcire mewarmeebi<br />
gavaTavisufloT yvelanairi damatebiTi<br />
buRalteriis warmoebisgan. mcire bizness<br />
valdebuleba eqneba, kanonmdeblobiT dadgenil<br />
SemTxvevebSi gamoiyenos mxolod sakontrolo-<br />
salaro aparati da sasaqonlo zednadebi~<br />
is, Tu ra saxes miiRebs saboloo<br />
dokumenti. cnobilia, rom<br />
misi momzadebis dros patara<br />
lafsusic ki gaeparaT, naxsenebi<br />
iyo termini „brunvis gadasaxadi”,<br />
arada, msgavsi gadasax-<br />
mamuka baxtaZe<br />
adi saqarTveloSi ar moqmedebs.<br />
SeiZleba vilaparakoT gadasaxadze<br />
brunvis sididis mixedviT,<br />
azrobrivad sworic iqneba, Tumca<br />
gamarTuli terminologii-<br />
Ta da zedmiwevniTi sizustiT<br />
unda iyos yvelaferi Sesrulebuli,<br />
sazogadoeba SecdomaSi<br />
ar unda SeviyvanoT. aseTi lafsusebi<br />
arsad aris gamoricxuli,<br />
Tumca vnaxoT, sabolood,<br />
ra iqneba.<br />
gela tyeSelaSvili _ pro-<br />
fesori:<br />
_ dRevandeli moqmedi kanonmdeblobiT<br />
mcire biznesi ise-<br />
Ti mcire Semosavlis mqone bizness<br />
ewodeboda, rom araTu<br />
mcire, aramed wvrili biznesi<br />
gamodioda. dRes ukve saubaria<br />
naxevari milion larze, am monacems<br />
kidev ara uSavs, isic kargia,<br />
rom SeRavaTebi aqvT buRaltrul<br />
saqmianobaSi. biujet-<br />
Si biznesidan Semosavlebi, faqtobrivad,<br />
ar iyo, radgan mcire<br />
bizness, Cveni kanonmdeblobidan<br />
gamomdinare, miekuTvneboda,<br />
magaliTad, mkeravi, mewaRe<br />
da a. S.<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi ar arsebobs<br />
saSualo klasi da mcire biznesi,<br />
iqneb, am kuTxiT am reformam<br />
daZras da saSualo klasis<br />
Camoyalibeba daiwyos, Tumca<br />
amas wlebi sWirdeba.<br />
es yvelaferi biujetze did<br />
gavlenas ar moaxdens, magram<br />
sazogadoebisTvis SeiZleba mciredi<br />
sargebeli hqondes. sagadasaxado<br />
sistema qveyanaSi tvirTs<br />
warmoadgens da am tvirTs rom<br />
gauZlo, an monopollisti unda<br />
iyo, an kargad fesvgadgmuli<br />
biznesi unda gqondes. am reformiT<br />
ki SesaZloa, raRac daiwyos<br />
da kargi Sedegic miviRoT.<br />
zemoT aRniSnulidan gamomdinare,<br />
mas dadebiTad Sevafasebdi<br />
iseve, rogorc mogebis<br />
gadasaxadis reinvestirebas, igive<br />
estonur models. aqve unda<br />
aRiniSnos, rom es axali iniciativa<br />
moklevadian perspeqtiva-<br />
Si biujetze did gavlenas ar<br />
moaxdens, ar Seamcirebs mas,<br />
Tumca grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi<br />
dadebiT asaxvas hpovebs,<br />
sagadasaxado baza gaizrdeba.<br />
vfiqrob, reformebis ganxorcieleba<br />
unda gagrZeldes, rom<br />
sagadasaxado baza gaizardos<br />
iseve, rogorc gadasaxadebis<br />
gadamxdelebis raodenoba.<br />
iniciativa parlaments uaxloes<br />
dReebSi gadaegzavneba.<br />
iniciatorebis mizania, rom igi<br />
pirveli ivlisidan amoqmeddes.<br />
ramdenad araTanabar garemoSi<br />
Caayenebs is adamianebis garkveul<br />
jgufs da ra droSi aisaxeba<br />
ekonomikaSi am reformiT<br />
miRweuli dadebiTi maCvenebeli,<br />
rTuli saTqmelia. aucilebelia,<br />
rom yvela detali gaTvlili<br />
da sworad Camoyalibebuli<br />
iyos.<br />
procesebi ukve<br />
dawyebulia da misi<br />
sabolood dasrulebis<br />
Semdegac<br />
SemogTavazebT<br />
zust detalebs.<br />
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CaliT daxuruli qveynis<br />
romel klinikebs swyalobs<br />
saswrafo daxmareba quTaisSi?<br />
bolo dros, qveynis masStabiT<br />
aqtiurad wamoWril Temas, romelic<br />
saswrafo samedicino daxmarebis<br />
muSaobaSi korufciuli faqtebis<br />
SesaZlo arsebobas exeba, quTaisic<br />
SeuerTda. adgilobrivTa er-<br />
Ti nawili miiCnevs, rom aRniSnuli<br />
samsaxuri da konkretuli klinikebi<br />
SeTanxmebulad moqmedeben.<br />
amaSi calsaxad darwmunebulia<br />
„Tavisufali saqarTvelos” adgilobrivi<br />
lideri, gogi wulaia, romlis<br />
TqmiTac, quTaisis saswrafo<br />
iZulebulia, upiratesoba mianiWos<br />
„eveqsis” hospitalebs.<br />
„quTaisis saswrafo samedicino<br />
daxmareba upiratesobas aniWebs<br />
„eveqsis” klinikas, rac monopoliaa<br />
da qalaqSi arakonkurentunariani<br />
garemos Seqmnas uwyobs xels. es<br />
namdvilad ar aris saswrafos TanamSromlebis<br />
danaSauli. zewola<br />
modis Tbilisdan. quTaisSi saswrafos<br />
TanamSromlebi, SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
kapikebze muSaoben. esec samarcxvinoa,<br />
rom TbilisSi eqimebs<br />
1000-1500 lari aqvT xelfasi, qu-<br />
TaisSi ki 400-500 lari. es aris marazmi”,<br />
_ acxadebs wulaia.<br />
quTaisis saswrafo samedicino<br />
daxmarebis centris eqimTa brigadebs,<br />
romelTa gankargulebaSic<br />
10 specialuri avtomobilia, dRe-<br />
Ramis ganmavlobaSi, saSualod,<br />
165-170 gamoZaxebaze gasvla uwevT.<br />
es arcTu ise mcire cifria imis-<br />
Tvis, rom pacientebi qalaqSi arsebul<br />
yvela klinikaSi gadanawildnen.<br />
miuxedavad amisa, sxvadasxva<br />
saxis pretenzia samedicino dawesebulebebisgan<br />
mainc ismis.<br />
klinika „bomondis” xarisxis<br />
marTvis menejer fatman rogavas<br />
gancxadebiT, zogjer 2-3 dRe ise<br />
gava, maTTan pacienti ar SehyavT.<br />
misive TqmiT, saswrafo samedicino<br />
daxmarebis centridan kviraSi,<br />
daaxloebiT, 10 pacients iReben.<br />
klinika „lj”-is xelmZRvanel<br />
zaza lominaZis ganmartebiT ki pacientis<br />
survils xSirad ar akmayofileben<br />
da maTi moTxovnis miuxedavad,<br />
isini sxva samedicino centrebSi<br />
gadahyavT. lominaZe aseve<br />
yuradRebas amaxvilebs teritoriul<br />
midgomazec da ganmartavs, rom<br />
xSirad klinikasTan axlos mcxovreb<br />
pacients gacilebiT Sor manZilze<br />
arsebul sxva samedicino<br />
dawesebulebaSi aTavseben.<br />
samedicino dawesebulebebis<br />
mxridan gamoTqmul pretenziebs<br />
ar eTanxmebian uSualod saswrafo<br />
samedicino samsaxurSi. sagangebo<br />
situaciebis koordinaciisa da gadaudebeli<br />
daxmarebis centris<br />
quTaisis raionuli samsaxuris menejer<br />
maia ruxaZis gancxadebiT,<br />
pacientebis hospitalizaciis kuTxiT<br />
raime saxis problema ar arsebobs<br />
da samedicino brigadebs isini<br />
teritoriisa da rigiTobis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
gadahyavT. rac Seexeba<br />
gogi wulaias mxridan gamoTqmul<br />
SeniSvnebs, ruxaZe mas usafuZvlod<br />
miiCnevs.<br />
aris Tu ara qveyana CaliT<br />
daxuruli?!<br />
cnobilia, rom moqalaqis sakuTreba<br />
xelSeuxebelia da mas saxelmwifo<br />
unda icavdes, Tumca xSirad<br />
ase ar xdeba. magaliTad wyaltubos<br />
raionis sofel zeda JoneT-<br />
Si mcxovrebi mayvala dangaZis saq-<br />
30<br />
xviCa vaSaymaZe<br />
me gamodgeba, romlis kuTvnil teritoriaze<br />
wiaRiseulis mopoveba,<br />
misive mtkicebiT, kanonis darRveviT<br />
xdeba. dangaZeebis miwis nakve-<br />
Ti im teritorias esazRvreba, sadac<br />
Sps „anre 2006" da Sps „svaia”<br />
licenziis safuZvelze wiaRiseuls<br />
moipoveben. Tumca maTi moqmedebis<br />
areali, dangaZis TqmiT, gascda<br />
sazRvrebs da samuSaoebi mis<br />
kuTvnil teritoriazec gagrZelda.<br />
„2005 wels am davas Cemi meuRle<br />
Seewira. wlebis Semdeg vnaxe sabu-<br />
Tebi, rom teritoria Cveni ojaxis<br />
sakuTrebaa. mivmarTe sasamarTlos,<br />
SeeCerebina Cvens sakuTrebaSi<br />
granitis mopovebis samuSaoebi,<br />
magram sasamarTlom 2014 wlidan<br />
jer saqmis ganxilva ver daiwyo.<br />
mosamarTlem ganacxada, rom Sesa-<br />
Zloa, am saqmis ganxilvas xuTi weli<br />
dasWirdes da Sps-s saqmianobas<br />
xuTi weli ver gavaCerebo. e. i. Cemi<br />
uflebebi am qveyanaSi daucvelia.<br />
veridebi konfliqts da vcdilob,<br />
provokacias ar avyve, magram rodemde<br />
gagrZeldeba ase?” _ ganacxada<br />
mayvala dangaZem quTaisSi gamarTul<br />
brifingze, romelic partia<br />
„Tavisufali saqarTvelos”<br />
adgilobrivi lideris, gogi wulaias<br />
mxardaWeriT gaimarTa.<br />
„me ar vici, konkretulad vin<br />
aris marTali. es unda daadginos<br />
sasamarTlom, magram sasamarTlo<br />
aWianurebs am saqmes, raTa Sps-ebi<br />
ar dazaraldnen. moqalaqe ar ainteresebT.<br />
aseTi damokidebulebis<br />
gamo moqalaqeebi iZulebuli xdebian,<br />
alternatiuli gzebiT eZion<br />
samarTali, maT Soris, mimarTon<br />
qurdul samyaros. es iwvevs qurduli<br />
samyaros gaaqtiurebas. mere<br />
ukvirT arsebuli statistika. movuwodeb<br />
yvelas, daicvan adamianis<br />
uflebebi, ar gauCinon moqalaqes<br />
usamarTlobis gancda, radgan amas<br />
arasaxarbielo Sedegi eqneba”, _<br />
ganacxada wulaiam faqtis Sefasebisas.<br />
Tavad mayvala dangaZe danebebas<br />
ar apirebs da sasamarTlosTan aqciis<br />
mowyobas aanonsebs. „Tu ar<br />
moyveba reagireba, sasamarTloSi<br />
Calas mivitan da yvelas vaCveneb,<br />
rom qveyana CaliT aris daxuruli”,<br />
_ acxadebs igi.<br />
quTaisSi vandalizmis<br />
faqtebi gaxSirda<br />
Zelskamebis, lampionebisa Tu<br />
sxva bevri ramis dazianebis faqtebi<br />
quTaisSi xSirad xdeboda, magram<br />
bolo dros yvelaferma mas-<br />
Staburi saxe miiRo. adamianTa er-<br />
Ti nawili miiCnevs, rom mosaxleobaSi,<br />
gansakuTrebiT ki axalgazrdebSi,<br />
agresiam mkveTrad moimata<br />
da amis gamo isini ase gamoxataven<br />
Sinagan mdgomareobas.<br />
ramdenime xnis winaT samxatvro<br />
galereis mimdebare teritoriaze<br />
ucnobma pirma eleqtronuli biblioTekis<br />
didi stendi daaziana.<br />
analogiuri faqti manamde cisferyanwelTa<br />
quCazec moxda, sadac aseve<br />
daudgenelma pirma igive stendi<br />
Seiwira. damnaSaveebis povna<br />
dRemde ver moxerxda.<br />
aRniSnuli stendebi proeqt<br />
`quTaisis saswrafo samedicino daxmareba<br />
upiratesobas aniWebs `eveqsis~ klinikas, rac<br />
monopoliaa da qalaqSi arakonkurentunariani<br />
garemos Seqmnas uwyobs xels. es namdvilad ar<br />
aris saswrafos TanamSromlebis danaSauli.<br />
zewola modis Tbilisdan. quTaisSi saswrafos<br />
TanamSromlebi, SeiZleba iTqvas, kapikebze<br />
muSaoben. esec samarcxvinoa, rom TbilisSi eqimebs<br />
1000-1500 lari aqvT xelfasi, quTaisSi ki 400-500<br />
lari. es aris marazmi~, - acxadebs wulaia~<br />
„qalaqi-biblioTekis” farglebSi<br />
gasuli wlis bolos damontaJda,<br />
risTvisac adgilobrivi biujetidan<br />
25 aTasi lari gaixarja. proeqtis<br />
farglebSi qalaqis sxvadasxva<br />
ubanSi mcire da didi zomis stendebi<br />
ganTavsda, romelTa umravlesoba<br />
ukve pirvandeli saxiT aRar<br />
gamoiyureba.<br />
gasul kviras ki yofil puSkinis<br />
quCaze, aseve daudgeneli pirebis<br />
agresias turizmis sainformacio<br />
centris mier damontaJebuli<br />
maniSnebeli Seewira.<br />
ukve masobrivia Zelskamebis dazianeba.<br />
quTaisis skverebSi iSviaTad<br />
Tu naxavT iseT skams, romelsac<br />
raime detali gatexili ar<br />
hqondes. samwuxaroa, rom, jerjerobiT,<br />
vandalizmis Camdeni arc<br />
erTi pirovneba gamovlenili da<br />
dasjili ar aris miuxedavad gake-<br />
Tebuli gancxadebebisa, rom gamo-<br />
Zieba mimdinareobs. teritoriebze,<br />
sadac xSirad msgavsi SemTxvevebi<br />
xdeba, kamerebia damontaJebuli.<br />
quTaislebs ainteresebT, Tval-<br />
Tvalis es saSualeba quCis dekoratiulad<br />
gaformebisTvis ganaTavses<br />
da biujetidan Tanxebi imisTvis<br />
ixarjeba, rom igi pirdapiri<br />
daniSnulebisTvis gamoiyenebodes?<br />
kiTxva, jerjerobiT, pasuxgaucemelia,<br />
Tumca yvela Tanxmdeba, rom<br />
vidre is pirebi ar gamovlindebian,<br />
romelTa garTobasa da Sinagani<br />
emociis gamoxatvis saSualebas<br />
msxvreva warmoadgens, manamde msgavsi<br />
faqtebis aRkveTa SeuZlebeli<br />
gaxdeba. adgilobriv xelisuflebaSi<br />
ki acxadeben, rom dazianebuli<br />
stendebi aucileblad<br />
aRdgeba, rac, bunebrivia, biujetidan<br />
damatebiTi Tanxebis gaRebis<br />
xarjze unda moxdes.<br />
sajaro moxele da<br />
SeuTavsebeli saqmianoba<br />
„Tanamdebobis pirebma 2017-18<br />
wlebSi arasrulad Seavses deklaracia,<br />
ar asaxes informacia sakuTari<br />
an/da ojaxis wevrTa komerciul<br />
saqmianobaSi monawileobis<br />
Sesaxeb da aseve, ewevian TanamdebobasTan<br />
SeuTavsebel saqmianobas”,<br />
_ naTqvamia „saerTaSoriso gamWirvaloba-saqarTvelos”<br />
mier Catarebul<br />
kvlevis im nawilSi, romelic<br />
municipalitebebSi dasaqmebul<br />
Tanamdebobis pirebs exeboda.<br />
organizaciam kvlevis fargleb-<br />
Si Tanamdebobis pirTa 70-mde qonebrivi<br />
deklaracia Seiswavla. Sedegad,<br />
wyaltubos municipalitet-<br />
Si deklaraciis arasrulad Sevsebis<br />
5 faqti, Terjolis municipalitetis<br />
SemTxvevaSi ki 4 gamovlinda.<br />
aseve TerjolaSi dafiqsirda<br />
3 faqti TanamdebobasTan Seu-<br />
Tavsebeli saqmianobis Sesaxeb.<br />
„aRniSnuli warmoadgens sajaro<br />
samsaxurSi interesTa SeuTavseblobisa<br />
da korufciis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonis moTxovnaTa darRvevas”, _<br />
acxadben organizaciaSi.<br />
Terjolis municipalitetSi<br />
darRvevebi aRmoaCines sakrebulos<br />
Tavmjdomaris maodgile nodar<br />
fanCuliZis, sakrebulos fraqcia<br />
„qarTuli ocneba _ mrewvelebis”<br />
Tavmjdomare konstantine amaSukelis,<br />
Terjolis mer bondo sofromaZis,<br />
safinanso-sabiujeto samsaxuris<br />
xelmZRvanel avTandil uriadmyofelisa<br />
da ekonomikisa da<br />
qonebis marTvis samsaxuris xelmZRvanel<br />
nugzar fanCuliZis<br />
mier Sevsebul deklaraciebSi.<br />
nodar fanCuliZem 2018 wels<br />
Sevsebul deklaraciaSi ar miuTi-<br />
Ta, rom igi aris Sps „imereTi<br />
2017"-is 100%-iani wilis mesakuTre<br />
da Sps „berta imereTis” direqtori,<br />
rac warmoadgens sajaro<br />
samsaxurSi interesTa SeuTavseblobisa<br />
da korufciis Sesaxeb<br />
kanonis moTxovnaTa darRvevas.<br />
sakrebulos fraqcia „qarTuli<br />
ocneba _ mrewvelebis” Tavmjdomare<br />
konstantine amaSukelis mier<br />
2017 wels Sevsebuli deklaraciiT<br />
dgindeba, rom igi aris Sps „sxivisa”<br />
da Sps „sxivi 2015"-is direqtori<br />
da mewile. amaSukeli deklaraciaSi<br />
uTiTebs, rom aRniSnulma<br />
samewarmeo iuridiulma pirebma<br />
saqmianoba Sewyvites 2017 wlis TebervalSi,<br />
Tumca sajaro reestris<br />
monacemebiT, kvlevis periodSi<br />
orive mewarme subieqts aqtiuri<br />
statusi hqonda. aRniSnuli faqtic<br />
kanonis uxeSi darRvevaa.<br />
kanonis moTxovna ugulebelyofilia<br />
Terjolis meris, bondo<br />
sofromaZis SemTxvevaSic, roca man<br />
ar miuTiTa is, rom igi aris Sps<br />
„axal doneSi” 100%-iani wilis<br />
mflobeli. msgavsi saxis SeniSvnebi<br />
daafiqsira „saerTaSoriso gam-<br />
Wvirvaloba-saqarTvelom” zemoT<br />
aRniSnuli sxva pirebis qonebrivi<br />
deklaraciebis Seswavlisas.<br />
rac Seexeba wyaltubos municipalitets:<br />
sakrebulos „qarTuli<br />
ocneba _ konservatorebis” Tavmjdomare<br />
sergo kirkitaZem 2017<br />
wlis seqtembers Sevsebul deklaraciaSi<br />
ar miuTiTa, rom aris<br />
Sps „dansis” 100%-iani wilis mesakuTre.<br />
aseve deklaraciis miRma darCa<br />
informacia imis Sesaxebac, rom<br />
misi meuRle ana wiwilaSvili Sps<br />
„progresi+ 2006"-is direqtoria.<br />
sakrebulos fraqcia „erTiani<br />
nacionaluri moZraobis” Tavmjdomare<br />
mamuka saRareiSvilis 2017<br />
wels Sevsebul deklaraciaSi ar<br />
iyo asaxuli is, rom igi Sps „kurortmSenis”<br />
25%-iani wilis mflobelia.<br />
qonebrivi deklaraciebis<br />
Sevsebisas araswori monacemebis<br />
dafiqsireba, samwuxarod, iSviaTobas<br />
ar warmoadgens. „saerTaSoriso<br />
gamWvirvaloba-saqarTvelo” gegmavs,<br />
am mimarTulebiT samomavlodac<br />
gaagrZelos muSaoba da sazogadoebas<br />
detaluri informacia<br />
miawodos.<br />
`samedicino dawesebulebebis mxridan<br />
gamoTqmul pretenziebs ar eTanxmebian<br />
uSualod saswrafo samedicino samsaxurSi.<br />
sagangebo situaciebis koordinaciisa da<br />
gadaudebeli daxmarebis centris quTaisis<br />
raionuli samsaxuris menejer maia ruxaZis<br />
gancxadebiT, pacientebis hospitalizaciis<br />
kuTxiT raime saxis problema ar arsebobs da<br />
samedicino brigadebs isini teritoriisa da<br />
rigiTobis gaTvaliswinebiT gadahyavT. rac<br />
Seexeba gogi wulaias mxridan gamoTqmul<br />
SeniSvnebs, ruxaZe mas usafuZvlod miiCnevs~<br />
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imeruli eskizebi<br />
Seasrulebs Tu ara<br />
kulturis ministri<br />
dapirebas?<br />
quTaisis iakob gogebaSvilis<br />
saxelobis Tojinebis saxelmwifo<br />
Teatri isev reabilitacias elis.<br />
miuxedvad imisa, rom jer kidev<br />
gasul wels koleqtivi cnobas sareabilitacio<br />
samuSaoebis dawyebis<br />
Taobaze sixaruliT Sexvda, procesi<br />
jerac ar daZrula. Teatris xelmZRvanelis<br />
gancxadebiT, reabilitaciis<br />
proeqti qalaqis meriis<br />
CarTulobiT momzadda, magram mas<br />
Semdeg, rac koleqtivi adgilobrivi<br />
daqvemdebarebidan saministros<br />
dafinansebaze gadavida, process<br />
quTaisis TviTmmarTveloba gamoeTiSa.<br />
Sedegad, Teatris Senobis<br />
rekonstruqciis programa mimdinare<br />
wlis dafinansebul proeqtebs<br />
Sorisac ver moxvda.<br />
„proeqtSi Sesworebebis Setana<br />
gaxda saWiro, magram amasobaSi axali<br />
weli daiwyo da igi biujetSi<br />
ver moxvda. saministros sxvadasxva<br />
proeqti aqvs, daaxloebiT, 60 milionis<br />
farglebSi. SesaZloa, aqedan<br />
gamoiZebnos CvenTvis Tanxebi”,<br />
_ imeds ar kargavs Teatris direqtori,<br />
Teimuraz baRdavZe.<br />
quTaisis Tojinebis Teatris<br />
reabilitaciisTvis 550 aTasi laria<br />
saWiro. Senoba foies, darbazis,<br />
fasadis srulad garemontebasa da<br />
saxanZro usafrTxoebis normebis<br />
dacvisTvis aucilebeli samuSaoebis<br />
Catarebas moiTxovs.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom quTaisis<br />
Tojinebis Teatri 1946 wels Seiqmna.<br />
Senoba, sadac amJamad igia gan-<br />
Tavsebuli da romelic saWiro<br />
pirobebs veranairad akmayofilebs,<br />
bolos 1987 wels garemontdda.<br />
ramdenime aTeuli welia, msaxiobebs<br />
nestsa da mtverSi uwevT<br />
muSaoba. miuxedavad amisa, isini er-<br />
Ti dRiTac ar gaCerebulan. dReisTvis<br />
Teatris repertuarSi 23<br />
speqtaklia. koleqtivs kulturis<br />
saministro 250 aTasi lariT afinansebs,<br />
rac, bunebrivia, arasakmarisia.<br />
marTalia, danaklisis Sevsebas<br />
dasi sakuTari SemosavlebiT cdilobs,<br />
magram garedan dauxmareblad<br />
sarekonstruqcio samuSaoebis<br />
Catareba warmoudgenelia. qu-<br />
Taisis Tojinebis TeatrSi sjeraT,<br />
rom ministri aucileblad Seasrulebs<br />
pirobas.<br />
„nacionalurma moZraobam”<br />
quTaisis TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
muSaoba Seafasa<br />
quTaisis adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
100-dRiani muSaoba<br />
„erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis”<br />
wevrma, giga SuSaniam sagangebod<br />
gamarTul brifingze Seafasa. opozicia<br />
qalaqSi dadebiT Zvrebs ver<br />
xedavs da adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
araefeqtian saqmianobaze<br />
saubrobs.<br />
„saxezea xelfasebisa da biurokratiis<br />
zrda da amis Sedegad qu-<br />
Taisis TviTmmarTvelobas „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” Senaxva 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
1 888 000 lariT meti daujdeba,<br />
rac sakmarisi iqneboda<br />
oTxi sabavSvo baRis asaSeneblad”,<br />
_ acxadebs giga SuSania da dasZens,<br />
rom mxolod sakrebuloSi xelovnurad<br />
Seqmnili oTxi fraqciis<br />
SenaxvisTvis biujetidan weliwadSi<br />
144 aTasi lari unda daixarjos.<br />
misive TqmiT, dekemberSi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobaSi 55 aTasi laris<br />
premia gaica, rac srulad dafaravda<br />
im quTaiselTa komunalur<br />
gadasaxadebs, romlebsac gadauxdelobis<br />
gamo saaxalwlod elenergiis<br />
miwodeba SeuwydaT.<br />
100-lariani komunaluri vau-<br />
Ceri saSualo da dabalSemosavliani<br />
abonentebisTvis; medikamentebis<br />
50-lariani vauCeri pensionerebisTvis;<br />
50 aTasi lari yvela<br />
skolas da kidev ramdenime muxli,<br />
romelTa Sesrulebasac „erTiani<br />
nacionaluri moZraoba” saarCevno<br />
periodSi xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />
SemTxvevaSi mosaxleobas dahpirda,<br />
giga SuSanias gancxadebiT, isev<br />
dRis wesrigSia. Tumca miiCnevs,<br />
rom yvelafer amis misaRwevad<br />
brZolam sakrebulos darbazidan<br />
quCebSi unda gadainacvlos.<br />
ivaniSvilis mTavari koSmari<br />
opoziciis erTiani saprezidento kandidati<br />
26-e gverdidan<br />
Sedegad ki miviRebT imas, rom opoziciis<br />
saxeliT da xelisuflebis resursebiT<br />
moaspareze elisaSvilisTvis micemuli yvela<br />
xma opoziciis damarcxebasa da xelisuflebis<br />
gamarjvebas moxmardeba.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom ukve bevri politikuri<br />
lideri afiqsirebs Tavis saurvils,<br />
iyos saprezidento kandidati, yvela xvdeba,<br />
rom sayovelTao da myari SeTanxmebisTvis<br />
umjobesia, prezidentobis apolitikuri<br />
kandidati. politikur partiebs Soris konkurencia<br />
imdenad mwvavea, rom saeWvoa, er-<br />
Tobis ideam gadawonos. romelime opoziciuri<br />
lideris saerTo kandidatad dasaxeleba<br />
ararealisturad imitomac gamoiyureba,<br />
rom Zneli warmosadgenia, 15-ma Tu 20-ma<br />
partiam erTad aRiaros liderad erT-erTi<br />
TavianTi konkurenti, Seuqmnas mas opoziciis<br />
lideris imiji da gamarjvebis SemTxveva-<br />
Si xom, saerTod, magram maRali Sedegis<br />
miRebis SemTxvevaSic ki sakuTari xeliT,<br />
langarze miarTvas is uzarmazari fora,<br />
romelic am lidersa da mis partias momaval<br />
saparlamento arCevnebSi eqneba. amas<br />
daamateT is uamravi ideologiuri gansxvaveba,<br />
romelic arsebobs partiebs Soris da<br />
bolos ar gamogrCeT prodasavluroba da<br />
prorusuloba da naTlad gamoCndeba, rom<br />
romelime politikuri lideris erTian<br />
opoziciur kandidatad aRzeveba warmoudgeneli<br />
ram aris.<br />
aseTi politikuri Seuwynareblobis vi-<br />
TarebaSi erT-erT yvelaze perspeqtiul<br />
proeqtad prezident margvelaSvilis<br />
garSemo gaerTianeba ganixileba. miT umetes,<br />
rom opoziciaSi ukve arc malaven, rom<br />
prezidentis rezidenciaSi mimdinare sakonstitucio<br />
ganxilvebis dros saprezidento<br />
arCevnebis perspeqtivebzec sakmaod<br />
xSirad saubrobdnen. ramdenadac CvenTvis<br />
cnobili gaxda, bolo dros sakmaod gaxSirda<br />
prezidentis administraciaSi sxvadasxva<br />
opoziciuri partiis stumroba. rogorc<br />
Cans, margvelaSvili sul ufro da ufro<br />
Sedis meore saprezidento vadis azartSi.<br />
gamomdinare iqidan, rom margvelaSvili<br />
arc erTi politikuri partiis wevri araa,<br />
mas politikuri gundi ar hyavs. ramdenimekaciani<br />
administracia am funqcias, bunebrivia,<br />
ver SeiTavsebs. saWiroa seriozuli<br />
politikuri zurgi, media da saarCevno resursebi,<br />
romlebic politikur partiebs<br />
aqvT.<br />
margvelaSvils didi finansuri resursebi<br />
rom ar aqvs, cnobilia, amitom marto is<br />
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`bokeria-ugulavas gundis pirvelma reaqciebma, erTiani<br />
opoziciuri kandidatis garSemo konsolidaciaze, ukve bevri<br />
ram gaxada naTeli. pirvel rigSi is, rom `evropuli<br />
saqarTvelo~ yvelafers ecdeba, rogorme am erTobas<br />
dausxltes da Tavisi partiuli kandidati daayenos. amisTvis<br />
bokeria yvelanair mizezs moiSveliebs. magaliTad imas, Tu<br />
rogor gaubeda miSam da rogor uwoda mas biZinas<br />
mosyiduli; an, magaliTad, burjanaZis faqtors aamoqmedebs~<br />
am brZolaSi ver wava. imisTvis, rom Tavisi<br />
xedvebi amomrCevlamde miitanos, mas media<br />
mxardaWera da ufaso politikuri reklama<br />
sWirdeba; imisTvis, rom miRebuli xmebi daicvas<br />
ubnebze, mas warmomadgenlebi sWirdeba;<br />
imisTvis, rom xmebi ar moparon cesko-<br />
Si, mas iq wevrebi sWirdeba; seriozuli saarCevno<br />
kampaniisTvis mas, aseve, agitatorebi<br />
da koordinatorebi sWirdeba yvela sofelSi;<br />
da rac mTavaria, gamarjvebisTvis sWirdeba<br />
amomrCevlis darwmuneba, rom mas aqvs<br />
Zala, SeeWidos xelisuflebas da piradad<br />
ivaniSvils. am Zalis demonstrirebas ki gundis<br />
gareSe veravin SeZlebs. amomrCevelic,<br />
swored, Zalis gamoCenaze amaxvilebs yuradRebas.<br />
aris didi gaerTianeba, e. i. iqaa<br />
Zala. mxolod aseTi Zalis gamoCenis SemTxvevaSi<br />
midis amomrCeveli arCevnebze masobrivad.<br />
aseTi Zala qmnis imeds, rom gamarjvebis<br />
Sansi arsebobs, es imedi ki, Tavis<br />
mxriv, motivacias qmnis, rigebi davayenoT<br />
saarCevno ubnebTan.<br />
amitomacaa yovelgvar saR azrs moklebuli<br />
zogierTi meocnebe eqspertis mosazreba,<br />
rom TiTqos margvelaSvilis interesSi<br />
ar Sedis opoziciasTan TanamSromloba<br />
da maTi prezidentobis kandidatad<br />
dafiqsireba. argumentebi Semdegia: Tu margvelaSvilis<br />
kandidaturas „nacionalebi”<br />
mxars dauWeren, maSin margvelaSvili „naci”<br />
gaxdeba da es mas daRupavs; Tu margvelaSvilis<br />
kandidaturas nino burjanaZe dauWers<br />
mxars, maSin margvelaSvili avtomaturad<br />
gaxdeba prorusi; xolo Tu margvelaSvils<br />
mxars dauWeren 0%-iani partiebi,<br />
maSin margvelaSvili avtomaturad ganuldeba<br />
da a. S.<br />
ivaniSvilis am maamebeli eqspertebis<br />
logika mxolod ivaniSvilis SiSebSi SeiZleba<br />
vipovoT. „qarTuli ocnebis” mTavari<br />
koSmari, dResdReobiT, swored erTiani kandidatis<br />
gamoCenis perspeqtivaa. es SiSebi<br />
ki eleqtoratis dakargvam gamoiwvia. bolo<br />
sam arCevnebSi „ocnebam” SesaniSnavad dainaxa,<br />
rom saprezidento arCevnebSi gamarjvebisTvis<br />
saWiro 50%-ze meti amomrCeveli<br />
maT ar hyavT. erTi adgilobrivi arCevnebi<br />
iyo da 44%-ze meti ver miiRes, Semdeg saparlamento<br />
arCevnebze 48% Zlivs Seagroves<br />
da SarSandel adgilobrivze ukve totaluri<br />
gayalbeba dasWirdaT imisTvis, rom kalaZe<br />
samarcxvino 51%-iT gamxdariyo Tbilisis<br />
meri.<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania is garemoeba, rom<br />
yvela am arCevnebze, xelisuflebis gadamrCenelad,<br />
qveyanaSi arsebuli maJoritaruli<br />
saarCveno sistema gamodioda. rom ara<br />
maJoritarebi, faqtia, am procentebiT da<br />
aseTi mxardaWeriT „qarTuli ocneba” ver<br />
ijdeboda umravlesobiT verc sakrebuloebSi<br />
da verc parlamentSi. saprezidento<br />
arCevnebSi ki ivaniSvili maJoritarebis<br />
imedad veRar iqneba. aq mxolod is gaimarjvebs,<br />
vinc 50%-ze met xmas miiRebs. opoziciam<br />
ki Tu erTmaneTs kandidaturebi ar dauyena<br />
da xmebi ar waarTva, gamodis, rom xelisuflebis<br />
kandidatma obieqtiurad Sei-<br />
Zleba waagos da amis albaToba marTla<br />
maRalia. miT umetes, rom „ocnebis” rigebSi<br />
jer ar gamoCenila iseTi kandidati, romelzec<br />
seriozuli fsonis dadeba SeiZlebodes.<br />
swored aseTi scenaris ganviTarebas<br />
ebrZvian meocnebe eqspertebi, roca erTiani<br />
opoziciuri kandidatis ideas aufasureben.<br />
SesaZloa, margvelaSvils bevr politikur<br />
partiasTan Ria TanamSromloba didad<br />
arc epitnavebodes, magram politikuri<br />
mocemuloba aseTia, _ an erTiani kandidatis<br />
statusi da mTel Tu ara umravlesoba<br />
opoziciur partiasTan erTad „ocnebasTan”<br />
radikalur dapirispirebaSi gadasvla, an<br />
saprezidento ambiciebis daviwyeba da duSeTSi<br />
hamakSi kotriali, sruliad gaurkveveli<br />
samomavlo perspeqtiviT (ivaniSvilis<br />
pirobebSi gansakuTrebiT).<br />
saboloo jamSi, Tu politikosebi Tavisi<br />
piradi ambiciebis gverdze gadadebas da<br />
saerTo kandidatze SeTanxmebas moaxerxeben,<br />
qveyanaSi sruliad axali politikuri<br />
garemo Seiqmneba. garemo, romelsac ivaniSvilis<br />
mmarTvelobis dasasrulis dasawyisi<br />
daerqmeva. saprezidento arCevnebSi opoziciis<br />
gamarjveba ki realuri winapiroba<br />
iqneba imisTvis, rom 2020 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebamde dRevandeli xelisufleba<br />
saerTod veRar miaRwevs.<br />
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fraqcias sami wevri hyavda, Tumca<br />
sami kviris Semdeg fraqciis<br />
erTma wevrma ganacxada, _ ukacravad,<br />
azri Sevicvale da fraqcias<br />
vtovebo. es maSin, roca fraqciis<br />
2 wevri maRalanazRaurebad xelfass<br />
iRebs, xolo mesame wvers,<br />
marTalia, warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
xarji, saSualod, TveSi, 400 lari<br />
aqvs, Tumca ori wevri kuluarulad<br />
xelfass uyofs, e. i. TiTo<br />
wevris jamagiri 900 laramdea.<br />
hoda, ucnaurad unda moeCvenos<br />
kacs 900 larze uaris ganacxadi.<br />
ai, am ucnaurobis mizezi erTia:<br />
Tu lagodexis parlamentis ma-<br />
Joritars daumorCileblobas<br />
gamoucxadeb, maSin daisjebi, dageSleba<br />
fraqciac da Sinapatimrobac<br />
mogesjeba.<br />
32<br />
sakuTrebuli principiT, raTa<br />
sakrebuloSi „politikuri nokauti”<br />
daeZliaT.<br />
sakrebulos opoziciuri Zalebi,<br />
davafiqsirebT ra xvalindel<br />
sxdomaze erTian pozicias sakrebuloSi<br />
arsebul viTarebaze, imeds<br />
gamovTqvamT, rom sakrebulos<br />
is wevrebi mmarTveli partiidan,<br />
romelTa obieqturobac ukve<br />
dafiqsirda, zewolis miuxedavad,<br />
bolomde iqnebian marTalni saku-<br />
Tar poziciasa da arCevanSi dRevandel<br />
sxdomaze”.<br />
Tumca sakrebulos sxdomaze<br />
Sedegi mainc dadga _ rogorc<br />
oficialuri feisbuqgverdiT mosaxleobas<br />
sakrebulom amcno:<br />
„dRes, 16 Tebarvals, lagodexis<br />
municipalitetis sakrebulos<br />
riggareSe sxdoma Catarda. warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
organos wevrebma<br />
sxdomis dRis wesrigiT gaTvaliswinebul<br />
Svid sakiTxze imsjeles.<br />
maT Soris, lagodexis municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulos fraqcia<br />
„qarTuli ocneba _ mrewvelebis”<br />
gauqmebis cnobad miRebis, arasasoflo-sameurneo<br />
daniSnulebis<br />
miwis normatiuli fasis dadgenisa<br />
da lagodexis municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulos politikur Tanamdebobis<br />
pirTa da sakrebulos aparatis<br />
profesiul sajaro moxele-<br />
maka mosiaSvili<br />
599 97 25 55<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom kanoniT<br />
partias mxolod erTi fraqciis Seqmnis ufleba aqvs, „qarTul-<br />
ma ocnebam” kanoni daarRvia da sakrebuloebSi, minimum, sami<br />
fraqcia Seqmna, maT Soris, yvelaze gaxSirebulia „qarTuli<br />
ocneba”, „qarTuli ocneba _ mrewvelebi”, „qarTuli ocneba _<br />
konservatorebi”. aRniSnul faqts axmetis fraqcia „nacionaleb-<br />
is” Tavmjdomare sasamarTloSi asaCivrebs. sanam sasamarTlo ve-<br />
rdiqts gamoitans, manam sami kviris win lagodexis municipali-<br />
tetSi fraqcia „mrewvelebi _ qarTuli ocneba” daarsda.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
maS, ase! ambavi lagodexeli<br />
„mrewvelebisa” da ara marto<br />
„mrewvelebisa”...<br />
lagodexis sakrebulos opoziciuri<br />
partiis wevrebis mimarTvam<br />
socialur qselSi didi gamoxmaureba<br />
gamoiwvia. maTi gancxadebiT,<br />
parlamentis wevri guram ma-<br />
WaraSvili uxeSad ereva sakrebulos<br />
saqmianobaSi da Sesabamisi<br />
kvorumis ararsebobis dros, sakrebulos<br />
reglamentiT gaTvaliswinebuli<br />
saTanado procedurebis<br />
daucvelad da arauflebamosili<br />
pirebis daxmarebiT, sakrebulo<br />
iRebs arasamarTlian gadawyvetilebas.<br />
samiode kviris winaT sakrebulos<br />
komisiebSi axali sakiTxi Sevida<br />
sakrebuloSi aparatis reorganizaciis<br />
Taobaze. laparakia<br />
iyo, sadRac, ori adamianis gan-<br />
Tavisuflebaze. xelSekrulebebiT<br />
ayvanili ramdenime TanamSromeli<br />
ki gaaTavisufles ara imitom, rom<br />
maT mxolod xelSekrulebis vada<br />
amoewuraT, aramed imitom, rom<br />
maT patroni ar hyavdaT. paralelur<br />
reJimSi mimdinareobs kidev<br />
aaipebis reorganizacia, rasac<br />
sakrebulos opoziciam ar dauWira<br />
mxari. bolo movlenebma cxadyo,<br />
rom lagodexSi yvela sakadro<br />
cvlilebas Tavad maJoritari<br />
deputati axorcielebs... ratom?<br />
ase miiCnevs dRes opozicia. visac<br />
maJoritarTan patroni ver gamou-<br />
Cnda, imaTze gadatyda joxi. jam-<br />
Si, sakrebulos saboloo gadawyvetilebiT:<br />
4 Statidan miiRes 2<br />
Stati, anu funqciebi 2 Stats gauzardes,<br />
xolo 2 Stati gaauqmes.<br />
2 kviris winaT swored sakrebulos<br />
aparatis reorganizaciaze<br />
opoziciam kritikuli damokidebuleba<br />
gamoiCina. sakrebulos<br />
wevrTa azriT, es ar iyo marTebuli<br />
da mxolod 2 adamianisTvis Catarebuli<br />
aparatis reorganizacia<br />
komikurad gamoiyureboda. biuros<br />
sxdomas eswreboda rogorc<br />
opozicia, aseve „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
sakrebulos komisiis wevrebic.<br />
albaT, gamorCeulia is faqti, rom<br />
lagodexis „qarTul ocnebas” sakmaod<br />
axalgazrda deputatebi<br />
hyavs sakrebuloSi, romelTac aRmoCnda,<br />
rom rcxvenodaT maJoritaris<br />
miTiTeba reorganizaciis<br />
Sesaxeb. ase rom, biuros sxdomaze<br />
sakrebulos „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
ramdenime wevri opoziciis moTxovnas<br />
SeuerTda, rac imas niSnavda,<br />
rom reorganizacias mxars ar<br />
dauWerdnen. Tumca biuros sxdoma<br />
dasrulebuli ar iyo, rom ma-<br />
Joritari deputatis biurodan<br />
saswrafod werilma ifrina da<br />
„ocnebis” biuros wevrebi adgilze<br />
gamoiZaxes. muqara martivi iyo,<br />
_ maJoritarma gadawyvita, urCebi<br />
daesaja da ori fraqcia daeSala,<br />
saboloo jamSi ki ukve Semdeg<br />
biuros sxdomaze axali sakiTxi<br />
Sevida: „qarTuli ocneba _ mrewvelebis”<br />
cnobad miRebis gauqmebis<br />
(samarTlebrivi termini, _ red.)<br />
Sesaxeb.<br />
imisTvis, rom fraqcia daiSalos,<br />
saWiroa fraqciis sami adamianidan<br />
erTi mainc gavides. ase aRmoCnda<br />
aqac, erTma deputatma piradi<br />
azri moiSvelia da amis gamo<br />
datova fraqcia. aman ki avtomaturad<br />
fraqcia „qarTuli ocneba _<br />
mrewvelebis” daSla gamoiwvia. argumenti,<br />
_ ra piradi azri hqonda<br />
deputats? _ aseTi iyo: kacia da<br />
gunebao, minda da axla ase vfiqrobo...<br />
Tumca ukve sadamsjelo biuros<br />
sxdomaze is „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
wevrebi ar gamocxaddnen,<br />
romlebsac wina biuros sxdomaze<br />
pretenzia hqondaT da opoziciasTan<br />
erTad akritikebdnen reorganizaciis<br />
moTxovnas. argamocxadebul<br />
deputatebs mizezad eTvlebodaT<br />
erT maTgans Svebuleba,<br />
xolo meores _ 2 dRiT samsaxuridan<br />
ganTavisufleba janmrTelobis<br />
mizeziT, ris gamoc arc biuros<br />
sxdomas daeswreboda da<br />
arc sakrebulosas. ase rom vTqvaT,<br />
xmas vinc iRebda, iqidan ramdenime<br />
„SinapatimrobaSi” gauSves<br />
droebiT. aRmoCnda, rom biuros<br />
sxdomaze arc fraqcia „nacionalebis”,<br />
arc fraqcia „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelosa” da arc fraqcia<br />
„damoukideblebis” Tavmjdomareebi<br />
Sevidnen, ramac is gamoiwvia,<br />
rom sakrebulos biuroze kvorumi<br />
ar Sedga. did sagonebelSi Cavardnilma<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomare<br />
karlo jamburiam biuros<br />
Catarebis axali meTodi moifiqra<br />
da komisiis Tavmjdomareebi, romlebic<br />
sxdomaze biuros sxdomaze<br />
ar an ver gamocxaddnen, maTi<br />
moadgileebi moiwvia...<br />
samarTlebrivad ki: TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
kodeqsis mixedviT biuros<br />
wevrebi arian sakrebulos,<br />
komisiisa da fraqciis Tavmjdomareebi.<br />
aseve sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris<br />
moadgilec. biuros sxdomaze<br />
daswreba sajaroa da yvelas<br />
SeuZlia daeswros, Tumca Tu<br />
reglamentSi gansazRvruli ar<br />
aris, rom komisiis wevris aryofnis<br />
SemTxvevaSi mis moadgiles<br />
ufleba aqvs, daeswros biuros sxdomas,<br />
Sesabamisad, biuros sxdomaze<br />
misi daswrebac mis wevrobas<br />
ar iTvaliswinebs. ase rom,<br />
Tu sakrebulos reglamentSi es am<br />
formiT ar aqvs daregulirebuli,<br />
e. i. biuros wevrebad verc komisiisa<br />
da verc fraqciis Tavmjdomareebi<br />
CaiTvleba, xolo biuro rom<br />
Catardes, amisTvis kvorumia saWiro.<br />
eva lomTaZe _ sakrebulos<br />
wevri:<br />
„lagodexis municipalitetis<br />
sakrebulos biuros sxdoma, romelic<br />
gansazRvruli droiT gu-<br />
Sin or saaTze unda dawyebuliyo,<br />
sakmaod dagvianebiT daiwyo. vi-<br />
xelisuflebis rRveva<br />
lagodexidan daiwyo<br />
Tareba, romelic sakrebuloSia<br />
Seqmnili, TiTqmis bolo ori kviris<br />
ganmavlobaSi, ra Tqma unda,<br />
gamoiwvevda im situacias, raSic<br />
mmarTvelma gundma Tavi Caiyena<br />
lagodexSi, saqarTvelos parlamentis<br />
wevr guram maWaraSvilis<br />
xelmZRvanelobiT. sakrebulos<br />
opoziciurma Zalebma, sakrebulos<br />
fraqcia „erTianma nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam”, „evropuli saqar-<br />
Tvelosa” da sakrebulos fraqcia<br />
„damoukideblobis”, aseve sakrebulos<br />
wevrebis erTma nawilma „qarTuli<br />
ocnebidan” mas Semdeg, rac<br />
sakuTari uaryofiTi da erTiani<br />
pozicia gamoxata sakrebulos<br />
aparatis reorganizaciasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
sakrebulos biuros wina<br />
sxdomaze, daiwyo saqmis garCevebi,<br />
mmarTveli partiis im wevrebis<br />
deputatTan dabarebebi, romlebTanac<br />
TavianTi Sexedulebebi<br />
hqondaT sakrebuloSi mimdinare<br />
procesebze. sadamsjelo moqmedebis<br />
gamoxatuleba iyo „urCTa<br />
Wkuis saswavleblad” sakrebulos<br />
fraqcia „qarTuli ocneba mrewvelebis”<br />
daSla (arada, es fraqcia<br />
sul axlaxan Camoyalibda).<br />
biuros dRevandeli sxdoma, romlis<br />
kanonierebac namdvilad iwvevs<br />
eWvs, Catarda reglamentis muxlebis<br />
„Wrisa da kopirebis” gan-<br />
`jamSi, `ocnebam~ Tavisi gaitana, magram<br />
xvalindeli dRis SiSi ufro metad gauRrmavda.<br />
ratom? imitom, rom daumorCileblobis talRa<br />
municipalitetSi izrdeba, xval an zeg<br />
Tavmjdomaris impiCmentic mosalodnelia.<br />
axalgazrda nakads moqalaqeebTan Sexvedris<br />
ridi ezrdebaT, rac imas niSnavs, rom<br />
maWaraSvils Tavis tkivili emateba. lagodexSi<br />
amboben, rom yvelaferi amiT ar dasruldeba,<br />
SeiZleba dRes sakrebulodan 2 adamiani<br />
gauSvan, xval aaipebidan gayaron adamianebi,<br />
bevri ojaxi darCes mSieri, Tumca sakrebulo<br />
ufro da ufro kritkuli gaxdeba, rac<br />
finalSi adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
dapirispirebas gamoiwvevs. mTavari moqalaqeebis<br />
interesia, faqti erTia - xelisuflebis rRveva<br />
lagodexidan dawyebulia! mrewvelobam ki<br />
lagodexi ver gadaarCina!~<br />
Ta saStato nusxisa da Tanamdebobrivi<br />
sargoebis damtkicebis Sesaxeb.<br />
riggareSe sxdomaze sakrebulos<br />
wevrebma lagodexis municipalitetis<br />
2018 wlis biujetSi<br />
cvlilebis Setanis Taobazec imsjeles<br />
da sxva sakiTxebTan er-<br />
Tad mxari dauWires 6-dan 18 wlamde<br />
SSm pirTa socialuri dacvis<br />
xarjis zrdas 2900 lariT. warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
organos wevrTa<br />
umravlesobam dRis wesrigiT ga-<br />
Tvaliswinebul sakiTxebs mxari<br />
dauWira”.<br />
sakrebulos sxdomas maJoritaris<br />
biuros warmomadgenelic<br />
eswreboda swraf despanad.<br />
lagodexis sakrebulo parlamentis<br />
lagodexis maJoritaris-<br />
Tvis did Tavis tkivilad iqca, _<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom „samefo<br />
karidan” miTiTebiT maWaraSvilma<br />
urCebi dasaja, urCebi mainc ur-<br />
Cebad darCnen. marTalia, „ocnebis”<br />
urCma axalgazrda wevrebma samarTlebrivi<br />
safuZveli Seiqmnes<br />
da zogi ar gamocxadda sxdomaze,<br />
Tumca sakrebulos dawyebamde<br />
sakrebulos Tavmjdomare karlo<br />
jamburiam erTi saaTiT adre daxuruli<br />
TaTbiri kvlav Caatara,<br />
rom vinme axali mowinaaRmdege ar<br />
gamosCenoda.<br />
jamSi, „ocnebam” Tavisi gaitana,<br />
magram xvalindeli dRis SiSi<br />
ufro metad gauRrmavda. ratom?<br />
imitom, rom daumorCileblobis<br />
talRa municipalitetSi izrdeba,<br />
xval an zeg Tavmjdomaris impiCmentic<br />
mosalodnelia. axalgazrda<br />
nakads moqalaqeebTan Sexvedris<br />
ridi ezrdebaT, rac imas niSnavs,<br />
rom maWaraSvils Tavis tkivili<br />
emateba.<br />
lagodexSi amboben, rom yvelaferi<br />
amiT ar dasruldeba, Sei-<br />
Zleba dRes sakrebulodan 2 adamiani<br />
gauSvan, xval aaipebidan gayaron<br />
adamianebi, bevri ojaxi<br />
darCes mSieri, Tumca sakrebulo<br />
ufro da ufro kritkuli gaxdeba,<br />
rac finalSi adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
dapirispirebas gamoiwvevs.<br />
mTavari moqalaqeebis interesia,<br />
faqti erTia _ xelisuflebis<br />
rRveva lagodexidan dawyebulia!<br />
mrewvelobam ki lagodexi<br />
ver gadaarCina!<br />
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Zmebs, debs, ZmisSvilebs disSvilebs, naTesavebs, mezoblebsa<br />
da naTlulebs uTxari, movidnen, yvelas unda mivxedoo...<br />
gurjaanis raikomis mdivanmac daureka dedas da uTxra:<br />
dedi, raikomis mdivnad daviniSne, Cems Zmebs, debs, ZmisSvilebs,<br />
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raikomis mdivani var da yvelas keTilebi unda mo***ao.<br />
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ar icoda, an icoda da Segnebulad<br />
mavneblobda.<br />
_ da rom gavagrZeloT, da-<br />
gibara da giTxraT, rom unda<br />
daweroT gacxadebebi. ai, mere<br />
ra moxda?<br />
_ mere moxda is, rom avdeqi<br />
da uari ganvacxade, radgan wasasvleli<br />
arsad mqonda da arc<br />
axla maqvs. me aq vmuSaob, konkursiT<br />
daviniSne, aravis movuybiZaSvil-mamidaSviloba<br />
gurjaanulad<br />
hoda, ram gamaxsena es anek-<br />
doti da isev aqaurobam...<br />
axla amas yvelaze pirveli<br />
Cemi redaqtori berulava waikiTxavs,<br />
imedi maqvs, im megre-<br />
li kacis xaTriT da am kaxeli<br />
raikomis mdivnis muRamiT am<br />
anekdots statiidan ar amomigdebs...<br />
Tqven da Cemi redaq-<br />
tori kaxur-megrul iumorze<br />
ramdens icinebT, amazea, Ziri-<br />
Tadad, statia...<br />
ase rom, Tu zugdidSi nepotizmi<br />
mosula, ai, CvenTan, kaxeTSi<br />
nepotizmi, Turme, ar mo-<br />
sula. is dRec gamiTenda, roca<br />
kaxelebze vwer da vambob: „nep-<br />
otizmi sad aris? ar aris!”<br />
maS, ase! dislokaciis adgili<br />
gurjaania, statiis personaJebi<br />
ki arCeuli meri ar-<br />
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pressamsaxuris ufrosi zviad<br />
biaSvili arian. arc meti, arc<br />
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biZaSvil-mamidaSviloba gur-<br />
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zviad biaSvili _ yofili<br />
Jurnalisti, dRes gurjaanis<br />
meriis pressamsaxuris xelmZRvaneli<br />
da ganyofilebis ufro-<br />
si.<br />
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„kaxeTis xmaSi”, 2010 wlidan<br />
muSaobas agrZelebs telekompania<br />
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menejeri da politikursazogadoebrivi<br />
toqSous prodiuseri.<br />
mogvianebiT, televiziaSi<br />
korespondentad iwyebs<br />
muSaobas. 2011 wlidan muSaobas<br />
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gazeT „gurjaanSi” da 2015 wlis<br />
maisidan dRemde aris gurjaanis<br />
municipalitetis presasTan<br />
da sazogadoebasTan urTier-<br />
Tobis ganyofilebis ufrosi.<br />
gasuli wlidan aris uvado sajaro<br />
moxele. miRebuli aqvs<br />
ramdenime fuladi jildo, igive<br />
premia.<br />
_ zviad, premia ratom aiRe?<br />
imitom, rom kargad muSaobdi<br />
Tu imitom, rom yvelas misces<br />
dResaswaulze da, maT Soris,<br />
Senc?<br />
_ adre maseTi kiTxva sxva<br />
Jurnalistmac damisva da rac<br />
mas vuTxari, igives getyviT<br />
Tqvenc: Cemi muSaoba mTlad Cemi<br />
Sesafasebeli ar aris, Tumca<br />
vfiqrob, rom cudad ar vmu-<br />
Saob.<br />
_ winasaarCevno periodSi<br />
Tu yofilxar rodesme romelime<br />
partiis StabSi mivleni-<br />
li samuSaod an damxmared?<br />
_ arasodes, arc StabSi vyofilvar<br />
rodesme, arc romelime<br />
partiaSi, es iyo Cemi pozicia..<br />
_ dRes xom ar nanob, arapar-<br />
tiuli rom xar?<br />
_ ara. mxardamWeri viqnebodi<br />
vinmesi da me visac vuWerdi<br />
mxars, yvelam kargad icoda da<br />
am pozicias arCevnebze Cemi misvliT<br />
vafiqsirebdi. vfiqrobdi,<br />
rom Jurnalistic da sajaro<br />
moxelec unda iyos apolitikuri,<br />
radganac saxelmwifom miiRo<br />
es gadawyvetileba, sajaro<br />
samsaxurSi Caatara reforma,<br />
axali regulaciebi miiRo da<br />
Tqva, rom Cven viyaviT profesiuli<br />
sajaro moxeleebi. mimaCnia,<br />
sworad moviqeci, rom arc<br />
erT politikur aqciaSi ar CaverTe...<br />
me vemsaxurebi saxelmwifosa<br />
da xalxs...<br />
_ axali meris mosvlis pir-<br />
veli dRidan ra xdeba Sens<br />
Tavs?<br />
_ axalma merma 2017 wlis 13<br />
noembridan daiwyo muSaoba.<br />
misi uflebamosilebis pirveli<br />
dRe es iyo, amave dRes dagvibara<br />
yvela samsaxuris ufrosi,<br />
sajaro moxele da mogvTxova,<br />
rom gancxadebebi dagvewera samsaxuridan<br />
wasvlis Sesaxeb mxolod<br />
im mizeziT, rom mas Tavis<br />
gundTan erTad surda muSaoba.<br />
es iyo misi pozicia!<br />
_ es gundi sad iyo aqamde,<br />
papas baRSi ijda? quCaSi da-<br />
dioda? sadme muSaobda?<br />
_ ar vici, ra gipasuxoT, magram<br />
rogorc man ramdenjerme<br />
gurjaanis televiziaSi isaubra,<br />
igive aRniSna da axsena, rom<br />
adamianebs moiyvanda, Tundac,<br />
sabanko seqtoridan. aqedan Cven<br />
viciT, rom xandamaSvili „liberTi<br />
bankis” gurjaanis filialis<br />
mmarTveli iyo da savaraudod,<br />
albaT, am bankSi hyavs Tavisi<br />
gundi. es ki gasagebia, magram<br />
kanonma xom gansazRvra, misi<br />
gundi ra aris? misi gundi aris<br />
meris moadgileebi, imis qvemoT<br />
ukve samsaxuris ufrosebi da<br />
ganyofilebis ufrosebi, eseni<br />
arian profesiuli sajaro moxeleebi.<br />
arCil xandamaSvilma an<br />
ar icoda kanoni, an icoda da<br />
Segnebulad sCadioda gadacdomas.<br />
rasac me axla meubneba da<br />
yoveldRiurad disciplinur<br />
gadacdomaze brZanebebs vibareb,<br />
esec igivea. ase rom, an man<br />
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vanivar. monawileoba miviRe konkursSi<br />
da damniSnes, Sesabamisad,<br />
uvadod. man Cem garda danarCensac<br />
mosTxova, rogorc<br />
giTxariT. wina gamgeblis, gergiZis<br />
dros movedi da aqve isic<br />
unda aRvniSno, rom gergiZis<br />
StabSi ar vyofilvar.<br />
_ kargi, Sen ar waxvedi. sxva<br />
vin wavida samsaxuridan?<br />
_ kulturis samsaxuris ufrosi,<br />
Sida auditis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi, qonebis marTvis ganyofilebis<br />
ufrosi, administraciul<br />
erTeulebTan urTierTobis<br />
ganyofilebis ufrosi da<br />
zedamxedvelobis samsaxuris<br />
ufrosi. administraciuli samsaxuris<br />
ufrosic wavida. ar<br />
vici, mas uTxra Tu ara wasvla,<br />
magram faqtia, isic wavida. amas<br />
winaT disciplinuri warmoebisas,<br />
CemTan erTad daiwyo safinanso<br />
samsaxuris ufrosis disciplinaruli<br />
warmoebac. mar-<br />
Talia, maSin Cem mimarT warmoeba<br />
Sewyda, magram safinanso samsaxuris<br />
ufrosma gafrTxileba<br />
miiRo.<br />
_ ras ukavSirdeboda pirve-<br />
li disciplinuri warmoeba?<br />
_ pirveli disciplinuri<br />
warmoeba Cem mimarT daiwyo, anu<br />
im saqmis Sesrulebas medaveboda,<br />
romelic aravis dauvalebia,<br />
Cemi uSualo zedamxedveli administraciuli<br />
samsaxuris ufrosi<br />
da TviTon meria. arc er-<br />
Ts da arc meores CemTvis davaleba<br />
ar moucia, anu me unda<br />
momemzadebina daskvna, rom merias<br />
SeZleboda, konsolidirebuli<br />
tenderis Sedegad SerCeuli<br />
mauwyeblebis garda, kidev<br />
sxva mauwyebelTan daedo xel-<br />
Sekruleba da maTgan sainformacio<br />
momsaxureba gveyida.<br />
_ axla Semdeg disciplinur<br />
warmoebaze gadavideT...<br />
_ ki batono: mixeil iaSvilis<br />
bavSvTa klinikasTan arsebulma<br />
sisxlis bankma 9 Tebervals aqcia<br />
Caatara: „gaiRe sisxli, gadaarCine<br />
bavSvebis sicocxle”.<br />
iq yvela msurvels SeeZlo misuliyo,<br />
ubralod, aucileblad<br />
kriteriumebi unda daekmayofilebina.<br />
ase rom, gurjaanis municipalitetis<br />
meri movida da,<br />
samwuxarod, ver daakmayofila<br />
es kriteriumebi da sisxlis ga-<br />
RebaSi monawileoba ver miiRo.<br />
gagrZeleba 34-e gv.<br />
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biZaSvil-mamidaSviloba<br />
33-e gverdidan<br />
_ fotoebi ver gadauRe, magram,<br />
ai, pressamsaxuri valde-<br />
buli aris Tu ara icodes, mers<br />
ra jgufis sisxli aqvs?<br />
_ Tu imas gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />
rom kabinetSi Sesvlisas gurjaanis<br />
meri imuqreba, policias<br />
gamoviZaxeb, Tu ar datove kabinetio,<br />
me saidan unda vicode<br />
misi sisxlis jgufi? saerTod,<br />
minda, statiaSi aRniSnoT, rom<br />
gurjaanis meri 13 noembris mere<br />
ugulebelyofis reJimSi mamyofebs,<br />
iyenebs maJoritar deputat<br />
daviT sonRulaSvilis<br />
piarsamsaxurs, yvela Sexvedraze<br />
dahyavs amaTi gadamRebi<br />
jgufi, Cven ar gveZaxis, sadac<br />
raRac xdeba da TviTon mivdivarT,<br />
iq ar gviSvebs. iyo aseTi<br />
SemTxveva, rom meri bazris movaWreebs<br />
Sexvda, es Sexvedra<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis administraciuli<br />
samsaxuris Senobis<br />
darbazSi Sedga. es informacia<br />
arCil xandamaSvilis pirad feijze<br />
daido, mivediT da ar SegviSves.<br />
iq Jurnalistebi iyvnen<br />
da dainaxes, rom Cven, meriis<br />
TanamSromlebi, ukan gamogvabrunes.<br />
Semdeg ukve arasrulfasovani<br />
muSaobis gamo gvsayvedurobs,<br />
arafers gvavalebs, ar<br />
gveubneba, ar gvekontaqteba, ignorirebulebi<br />
varT, is iZulebuls<br />
mxdis, gancxadeba davuwero<br />
da wavide, Cemi samsaxurebrivi<br />
instruqciiT dakisrebuli<br />
movaleobebis SesrulebaSi<br />
xels miSlis da amas akeTebs ara<br />
sxva vinme, aramed Tavad meri!<br />
amis fonze cdilobs moZebnos<br />
raime mizezi, rom auditis samsaxurma<br />
disciplinuri warmoeba<br />
daiwyos da brali damdos<br />
arasrulfasovan muSaobaSi.<br />
am ramdenime dRis win telekompania<br />
„gurjaans”aseTi ram<br />
uTxra, rom me ar momwons misi<br />
muSaoba TqvenTvis kargad cnobil<br />
„feisbuqTan” da vebgverd-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiTo. anu gurjaanis<br />
presasa da sazogadoebasTan<br />
urTerTobis samsaxuri marTavs<br />
feisbuq gverds „gurjaanis municipaliteti”<br />
da vebgverds<br />
gurjaani.ge-s. ai, am vebgverds<br />
teqnikuri problemebi aqvs, 13<br />
noembris Semdeg uamravi moxsenebiTi<br />
baraTi davwere meris<br />
saxelze, administraciuli samsaxuris<br />
ufrosis saxelze, rom<br />
es problema gvaqvs da Zalian<br />
gTxovT, hostingis gafarToebis<br />
mizniT mimarToT safinanso<br />
samsaxurs, an raRac zomebi miiRoT.<br />
arsebobs kidev satesto<br />
reJimSi moqmedi meore vebgverdi<br />
gurjaani.gov.ge, romelic<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobisa da<br />
donori organizaciis mxardaWeriT<br />
Seiqmna, magram es imdenad<br />
rTulad samarTavi saitia, rom<br />
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mas teqnikuri personali sWirdeba,<br />
romelic saitis marTvaSi<br />
monawileobis miRebas SeZlebs.<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiTac maqvs<br />
dawerili moxsenebiTi baraTebi<br />
batoni merisa da administraciuli<br />
samsaxuris ufrosis<br />
saxelze, magram arc erT moxsenebiT<br />
baraTze pasuxi ar mimiRia.<br />
samagierod, meri gamodis<br />
da pirdapir eTerSi ambobs, rom<br />
ar moswons vebgverdis muSaoba,<br />
sinamdvileSi ki vebgverds<br />
teqnikuri problema aqvs, romelic<br />
Cemgan damoukidebeli<br />
problemaa...<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, Cven Cixur<br />
mdgomareobaSi gvayenebs<br />
meri. magaliTad, SabaTs gurjaanSi<br />
Tavisufali Widobis<br />
dRe tardeboda. mTeli dRis<br />
ganmavlobaSi gurjaanis sportkompleqsSi<br />
viyavi, gurjaanis<br />
municipalitetis gverdidan<br />
ori laiv-CarTva gavakeTe,<br />
plus saRamos avtvirTe erTi<br />
fotoreportaJi.<br />
_ meri eswreboda?<br />
_ ki, mobrZanda meri, suraTi<br />
gadavuRe, rom Semdeg Sari ar<br />
moedo da ar eTqva, me ratom ar<br />
gadamiRe suraTio. SvilTan da<br />
moadgilesTan erTad movida.<br />
_ anu?<br />
_ anu mTeli dRe vimuSave,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom SabaTi<br />
iyo da me es ar mevaleboda. miT<br />
umetes, es ar iyo gurjaanis municipalitetis<br />
mier Catarebuli,<br />
es Caatara saqarTvelos<br />
Ziudos federaciam. SemeZlo,<br />
saerTod ar mivsuliyavi, magram<br />
amas imitom vakeTeb, rom gurjaanSi<br />
raRac xdeba da minda, es<br />
xalxma gaigos. magram mere rogor<br />
unda vimuSao, Tuki, ase vTqvaT,<br />
gareT vidgebi dRe da Rame?<br />
rodesac mers ar unda, amas<br />
ar dainaxavs. TeTri saxlis pressamsaxuris<br />
doneze rom vimu-<br />
Sao, merisgan aucileblad davimsaxureb<br />
SeniSvnas, imitom,<br />
rom mas ase surs...<br />
es aris misi pirovnuli pozicia,<br />
mas gurjaanis municipalitetis<br />
meria Tavisi kerZo Sps<br />
hgonia da fiqrobs, rom rogorc<br />
unda, ise gadaalagebs, xolo<br />
adamianebs, visac unda SemouSvebs<br />
da visac unda gauSvebs.<br />
iciT, rogor moqmedebs es adamiani?<br />
_ rogor?<br />
_ Sua saukuneebis despotebiviT.<br />
absoluturi monarqebi<br />
rom iyvnen, mefe rom iyo kanonic<br />
da mefe rom iRebda yvelanair<br />
gadawyvetilebas...<br />
meri arCil xandamaSvili miiCnevs,<br />
rom mas aqvs yvelafris<br />
ufleba. mas ar ainteresebs arc<br />
kanoni, arc sakanonmdeblo regulaciebi,<br />
arc saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis mier gatarebuli reformebi...<br />
mivwere premier-ministrs<br />
da parlamentis Tavmjdomares.<br />
albaT Tqven amas gaecnobodiT.<br />
iq mewera, rom es kaci<br />
fexqveS Telavs saqarTvelos<br />
konstitucias. konstituciis<br />
mixedviT adamianebi arian Tavisuflebi<br />
da nebismier gadawyvetilebas<br />
Tavad iReben. me ar<br />
minda gancxadebis dawera da<br />
arsad gadasvla. me mand movedi<br />
da Cems movaleobas vasrulebdi,<br />
ubralod, mers aseTi damokidebuleba<br />
aqvs, rom ar unda<br />
mand vimuSao, aviwydeba, rom me<br />
konkursgavlili, uvadod dani-<br />
Snuli sajaro moxele var da<br />
sulac ar viTvlebi misi gundis<br />
wevrad.<br />
es kaci sakanonmdeblo regulaciebs<br />
arafrad miiCnevs, imasac<br />
arafrad Tvlis, rom evrokavSirTan<br />
saqarTvelos valdebuleba<br />
aqvs sajaro samsaxur-<br />
Si reformis ganxorcielebis.<br />
magitomac daiwyo 2015 wlidan<br />
reformebi sajaro samsaxurSi...<br />
anu es raRacebi, savaraudod,<br />
mers arc waukiTxavs da arc gaugia.<br />
arc ainteresebs.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ mas raRac idea fiqsi aqvs,<br />
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om Tavisi gundi unda moiyvanos<br />
da am gundTan erTad unda<br />
marTos Sps „gurjaanis municipaliteti”<br />
eqskluziurad...<br />
magram mas aviwydeba, rom am<br />
qveyanaSi saxelmwifo samsaxur-<br />
Si me var uvadod daniSnuli sajaro<br />
moxele da is kidev mxolod<br />
4 wliT arCeuli meria. garda<br />
imisa, rom kanonis winaSe pasuxismgebloba<br />
aqvs, mas aseve<br />
aqvs politikuri pasuxismgeblobac<br />
da TiToeul mis qmedebas<br />
politikuri datvirTva aqvs.<br />
me rom gancxadeba davwero,<br />
esec imitom unda, rom misTvis<br />
iuridiuli komforti iqneba<br />
samarTlebrivi TvalsazrisiT.<br />
xom xvdebiT, rasac geubnebiT.<br />
mere me rac unda vTqva, is<br />
aucileblad ityvis, rom man<br />
Tavisi nebiT damiwera gancxadeba<br />
da Semomitanao. mec amitom<br />
ar vuwer gancxadebas. magram<br />
me rom gancxadebas ar vuwer,<br />
man disciplinuri warmoebebi<br />
daiwyo, es ukve devnaa. amiT mai-<br />
Zulebs, rom gancxadeba davuwero,<br />
magram mas gancxadebas ar<br />
davuwer, radgan kanoni da samarTali<br />
Cems mxarezea! ai, ra<br />
xdeba...<br />
_ ramdeni welia, rac mers<br />
icnob?<br />
_ mers Zalian didi xania,<br />
vicnob. is Cemi alali mamidaSvilia!<br />
Cemi naTesavia!<br />
_ anu batoni meris gundSi<br />
naTesavebi ar moiazrebian?<br />
_ me vambob, rom merTan naTesauri<br />
kavSiri maqvs, magram<br />
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gurjaanulad<br />
bolo wlebi ar mqonda masTan<br />
arc kargi da arc aranairi ur-<br />
TierToba. is bevr gadawyvetilebas<br />
iRebs, raTa samsaxuridan<br />
Cem wasvlas miaRwios.<br />
_ meri acxadebs, rom mas<br />
samsaxuri sTxoveT, Tqven am-<br />
bobT, rom man samsaxuridan<br />
wasvla mogTxovaT, romelia<br />
simarTle?<br />
_ misTvis samsaxuri ar miTxovia.<br />
samsaxuri maqvs, magram<br />
mers ar surs Cemi mand yofna.<br />
rogorc aRvniSne, meri gancxadebis<br />
daweras mTxovda. me pozicia<br />
mqonda, rom iseT samsaxurSi<br />
gadavsuliyavi, sadac mer-<br />
Tan aRar meqneboda Sexeba da<br />
aRar viqnebodi masTan aranair<br />
subordinaciaSi. oRond es iyo<br />
iZulebiTi nabiji Cemi mxridan.<br />
am samsaxurSi misi daxmarebis<br />
gareSe var mosuli, Cemi SromiT<br />
da mecadineobiT (meri SeiZleba<br />
ver mixvdes, axla ra vTqvi)<br />
da Tu is ar Semaviwroebs, arsadac<br />
ar msurs gadasvla. msurs,<br />
man Sewyvitos Cemi Seviwroeba<br />
da muSaobis saSualeba momces.<br />
gurjaanis meri arCil xandamaSvili<br />
biaSvilis braldebebs<br />
ar adasturebs, Tumca ambobs,<br />
rom pressamsaxurs muSa-<br />
obaSi xarvezebi aqvs. imasac<br />
adasturebs, rom Tu muSaoba-<br />
Si vinme rames daarRvevs, sayvedursac<br />
gamoucxadebs da sa-<br />
msaxuridanac gaaTavisuflebs.<br />
arCil xandamaSvili:<br />
_ mas Semdeg, rac gurjaanis<br />
meris uflebamosileba miviRe<br />
da TiToeuli samsaxurisa Tu<br />
ganyofilebis muSaobas gavecani<br />
rogorc funqciurad, aseve<br />
pasuxismgebeli pirebis kompetenturobis<br />
kuTxiT, mxolod<br />
amis Semdeg Sevxvdi maT da vTxove<br />
gancxadebis dawera, Semdeg<br />
ki Ria konkursis gamocxadeba,<br />
mxolod da mxolod, imisTvis,<br />
rom saSualeba gvqonoda, Riad<br />
da gamWvirvaled migveRo is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic Tavs gaarTmevdnen<br />
aRniSnuli samsaxurebis<br />
marTvas. anu meriaSi darCebodnen<br />
mxolod is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic Tavisi kompetenciiT<br />
gamoirCeodnen da asec unda<br />
iyos, imisTvis rom meria daemsgavsos<br />
merias!<br />
erTi ramis Tqma minda, rom<br />
gacilebiT mkacri viqnebi, vidre<br />
aqamde vinme yofila. bunebrivia,<br />
gaCndeba kiTxva, ra ma-<br />
Zlevs amis safuZvels?!<br />
yvela TanamSromeli unda<br />
iyos mowodebuli, rom moqalaqeebTan,<br />
saqmesTan, proeqtebTan<br />
mimarTebiT da municipalitetis<br />
interesebidan gamomdinare,<br />
nebismier sakiTxTan mimarTebiT,<br />
iyvnen ara marto kompetenturebi,<br />
aramed yuradRebianebic,<br />
radgan moqalaqes ar<br />
unda uwevdes furcliT xelSi<br />
sam sarTulze asvla-Casvla da<br />
Senobidan ise gasvla, rom rame<br />
ver gaigos, rasac, jerjerobiT,<br />
isev vawydebi.<br />
diax, me imitom var meri, rom<br />
ai, amas unda mivxedo! xalxis<br />
samsaxurSi unda viyoT mec da<br />
meriis yvela TanamSromelic!<br />
axla, rac Seexeba zviad biaSvilis<br />
braldebebs.<br />
pirvel rigSi, madloba Canaweris<br />
gamoqveynebisTvis Cems opoziciur<br />
presisa da sazogadoebasTan<br />
urTierTobis ganyofilebis<br />
ufros biaSvils, romelic<br />
kidev erTxel adasturebs<br />
Cems keTilsindisierebas, gamomdinare<br />
iqidan, rom is iTxovda<br />
samsaxurs, romelic erTerT<br />
saxelmwifo seqtorSi iyo<br />
da Tan maRalanazRaurebadi.<br />
bunebrivia, rom me am Txovnas<br />
verc da arc davakmayofilebdi.<br />
Tumca aqve kidev erTxel unda<br />
davZino, rom Cemi misdami Txovna,<br />
rom gancxadeba daewera, ar<br />
niSnavda imas, TiTqos me gadawyvetili<br />
mqonda misi ganTavisufleba,<br />
an axla maqvs gadawyvetili,<br />
piriqiT, mindoda, rom yvela<br />
TanamSromlisTvis mimeca<br />
SesaZlebloba, sakuTari komptenciebi<br />
da unarebi gamoevlinaT<br />
da daemtkicebinaT, rom isini<br />
ama Tu im samsaxuris xelmZRvanelobas<br />
imsaxurebdnen. zviadma<br />
Cveni saubari Caiwera da gamoaqveyna<br />
kidec, rac me piradad<br />
eWvs miCens, rom am yvelafers<br />
biaSvili imisTvis akeTebs, rom<br />
ar aqvs konkursis gadalaxvis<br />
imedi da Sesabamisad, winaswar<br />
atexili aJiotaJiT iqmnis msxverplis<br />
rols.<br />
xolo is, rom presganyofileba<br />
kargad ver muSaobs, es<br />
marto biaSvils ar exeba. me yvela<br />
samsaxurs miveci davaleba,<br />
warmoedginaT strategia, Tu<br />
rogor unda imuSaos ama Tu<br />
ganyofilebam Tu samsaxurma.<br />
analizis Sedegad marto zviads<br />
ki ara, yvelas davugzavne werilebi<br />
da SeniSvnebi miveci, oRond<br />
es arc sayveduri yofila<br />
da arc gafrTxileba.<br />
axla, rac Seexeba imas, rom me<br />
TiTidan gamowovil mizezebs<br />
veZeb zviadis gansaTavisufleblad:<br />
martivad gpasuxobT, _ meo-<br />
Txe Tve sruldeba, rac gurjaanis<br />
meri var da aseTi erTpirovnuli<br />
gadawyvetileba rom<br />
mqonoda Cafiqrebuli, aqamde<br />
Zalian bevri SesaZlebloba<br />
mqonda mis gasaTavisufleblad.<br />
samsaxurSi daagvianebda? adre<br />
wavidoda samsaxuridan? nebismier<br />
saSualebas gamoviyenebdi<br />
da gavuSvebdi. magram am meTodiT,<br />
arc maqvs survili muSaobis<br />
da arc aris CemTvis misaRebi.<br />
Tu auditis samsaxuri raime<br />
gadacdomas swavlobs biaSvilis<br />
Sesaxeb, jer dados daskvna da<br />
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mxars uWeren da amayoben<br />
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_ upirveles yovlisa, mkiTxvels<br />
mivesalmebi. me gaxlavarT<br />
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da gavizarde samegrelo-<br />
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am saxeliT gamoCena imitom<br />
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rom Cveni warmoebuli produqcia<br />
gansxvavebuli da arastandartuli<br />
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_ winaaRmdegoba bevri iyo,<br />
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dro?<br />
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veloSi?<br />
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li xarT?<br />
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baSi?<br />
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is ki araa, vis ra misia gvaqvs,<br />
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igi.<br />
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ibrZviT?<br />
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Tesad vicxovro; vibrZvi imisTvis,<br />
rom warmatebuli viyo<br />
sakuTari TavisTvis, megobrebisTvis,<br />
mSoblebisTvis Tu qveynisTvis.<br />
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TqvenTvis?<br />
_ rodesac gaivlis wlebi da<br />
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iq sinanuli ar unda gagi-<br />
Cndes, es rom gamekeTebina, netav,<br />
axla rogor viqnebodio.<br />
cxovrebis mTeli azri eg aris,<br />
uazrod ar unda gavataroT is<br />
TiToeuli wuTi, rasac RmerTi<br />
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gamoviyenoT.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, miuxeda-<br />
vad yvela problemisa, mainc<br />
gaqvT Tu ara warmatebis miRwevis<br />
Sansi dRevandel saqar-<br />
TveloSi?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. adgils didi<br />
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ras da rogor Secvlis dro.<br />
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zurgs.<br />
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anebisTvis?<br />
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nebismieri xasiaTis ganeitraleba<br />
SeuZlia musikas.<br />
xsna ki, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
siyvarulia.<br />
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amitom, xalxno, giyvardeT<br />
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erTmaneTs da akeTeT is saqme,<br />
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38<br />
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(9. pen.), 2:1 keini (35), 2:2 eriqseni<br />
(71)<br />
sapasuxo matCi 7 marts<br />
bazeli (Sveicaria) –<br />
manCester siti (inglisi) 0:4<br />
golebi: 0:1 giundogani (14), 0:2<br />
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sapasuxo matCi 7 marts<br />
portu (portugalia) –<br />
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reali (espaneTi) –<br />
psJ (safrangeTi) 3:1<br />
golebi: 0:1 rabio (33), 1:1<br />
ronaldu (45. pen.), 2:1 ronaldu<br />
(83), 3:1 marselo (86)<br />
sapasuxo matCi 6 marts<br />
20 Tebervali<br />
baierni (germania) –<br />
beSiqTaSi (TurqeTi)<br />
Celsi (inglisi) –<br />
barselona (espaneTi)<br />
21 Tebervali<br />
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manCester iunaitedi (inglisi)<br />
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