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`sanam pirSi suli midgas,

gabrazebuli var. ise, ubral-

giorgi abaSiZe

od ki ara, Zalian gabrazebuli

var! darwmunebuli var, rom am

qveyanaSi yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani CemsaviT Zalian gabrazebulia,

radgan xmebi mogvpares da arCevnebi gagviyalbes, magram

piradad me Zalian gabrazebisTvis sxva sababic maqvs _ vi-

Rac erTujrediani dupletebi socialur qselSi genialur kar-

diologs, anzor melias Tavs mxolod imitom esxmian, rom nikas

mamaa! am erTujrediani dupletebis diagnozi „qocobaa”! diax,

„qocoba”, karga xania, diagnozia, diagnozi, romelic, saube-

durod, ar ikurneba da „qocobiT” daavadebulebs verc anzor

melia gankurnavs, Tumca Cemi respondenti ambobs, rom bolom-

de ibrZolebs, rom am qveynis saTaveSi iseTi xelisufleba mo-

vides, romelic qarTul saqmes gaakeTebs da xalxs mixedavs!

ise, sanam intervius Semog-

TavazebT, im emociur gancxadebas

gagaxsenebT, romelic

ramdenime dRis win, anu maSin,

roca xelisuflebam nika melias

xelaxali dasja gadawyvita

da e. w. eleqtrosamajuris moxsnis

gamo prokuraturam enm-s

politsabWos liderisTvis aRkveTi

RonisZiebis gamkacrebis

moTxovniT sasamarTlos mimar-

Ta, anzor meliam sasamarTlos

ezoSi gaakeTa:

„nika isjeba samSoblos siyvarulis

gamo, CemTvis gansakuTrebiT

mZimea es yvelaferi

imitom, rom mSobeli var! patimrobaSi

myofi nika melia ufro

saSiSi iqneba am mTavrobis-

Tvis, vidre gareT myofi.

Tqvenc xedavdiT, Tu ra upiratesobiT

igebda da Semdeg

rogor datrialda yvelaferi.

SeuZlebelia, rom mSvidad uyuro

am situacias, miT umetes,

rom Seni Svilia. Cemi Svilia da

yovelTvis Cems Tavs vusvam xolme

kiTxvas, ratom Cemi Svili?

magram Tu ara Cemma Svilma,

vin unda gaakeTos qarTuli saqme?

bavSvobidan gamoirCeoda

Tavisi gulwrfelobiT, patiosnebiT,

vaJkacobiT, tyuili

man ar icoda, lideri iyo!

ar unda am mTavrobas aseTi

adamianebi, saqarTvelos ki

sWirdeba imitom, rom sxvanairad

daviRupebiT!

yvela dargi ispoba, xom xedaven

TviTonac? kobaxiZem gamoiaros

da naxos, rogor suls

vRafavT eqimebi da klinikebi,

ramxela fasebi aqvs wamlebs,

avadmyofebi ver yiduloben da

nika aris, Turme, teroristi.

girao erTxel gadaixada nikam,

bina CavdeT da erTsa da

imave saqmeze orjer xom ar gadaixdis?

am mTavrobisgan yvelafers

cuds velodebiT da ukve mzad

varT me da Cemi meuRle _ nika

rom wavida politikaSi da dinebis

sawinaaRmdegod airCia

moZraoba, mSobeli ras unda

elodos?

taSiT ivaniSvili magas ar

daajildoebs. bevrjer hqondaT

mcdeloba, gadaebirebinaT

nika, magram ar gamouvidaT da

axla patimroba surT, Tumca

unda icodes, rom patimrobaSi

myofi nika ufro saSiSi iqneba

am mTavrobisTvis, vidre gareT!”

sabednierod, mamis prognozi

ar gamarTlda _ „ocnebam”

nika melias daWera ver gabeda

da mxolod imas dasjerda, rom

damatebiT 40 aTasis gadaxda

daakisra. rogorc anzor melia

„qronika+~-sTan ambobs, am Tanxis

gadaxdas ar apireben.

mokled, Cveni gamocema gTavazobT

eqskluziur inter-

vius anzor meliasTan:

_ batono anzor, yvelam viciT,

rom „ocnebam” xalxs xme-

bi mohpara, magram isic viciT,

rom pirvel adgilze moparvis

gareSec gavidoda. hoda, Tqve-

ni azriT, ivaniSvilis gundma

arCevnebi ase totalurad ra-

tom gaayalba?

_ amaze mec bevrs vfiqrob...

mTavroba arCevnebis gasayalbeblad

rom emzadeboda, amas

kobaxiZisa da kalaZis gamosvlebic

adasturebs, romlebic

ambobdnen, 60 procentze mets

aviRebTo, arada, xalxis ganwyoba

zustad icodnen da ician.

amitom mzad iyvnen, xaxvi, kartofili,

pomidori da kidev ra-

Racebi, maT Soris, fulic daerigebinaT,

magram ar elodnen,

rom koronavirusis epidemiis

gamo saarCevno ubnebTan amdeni

raodenobis adamiani mividoda.

is rezervi ki, romelic

„ocnebas” xalxis mosasyidad

hqonda gamoyofili, sakmarisi

ar aRmoCnda.

sxvaTa Soris, TavianTi Sida

kvlevebiTac icodnen, rom xalxis

ganwyoba maT mimarT uaryofiTi

iyo da mxolod im Sem-

TxvevaSi gaimarjvebdnen, Tu

amomrCevlis aqtiuroba naklebi

iqneboda, magram piriqiT moxda.

„ocneba” gamouval mdgomareobaSi

aRmoCnda da, xelisuflebis

dakargvis SiSiT qaosuri

gadawyvetileba miiRo, rom ar-

Cevnebi gaeyalbebina, raSic gamocdili

qalbatoni Jvania daexmara.

amitom qarTveli eris

winaSe am qalbatonma aucileblad

unda agos pasuxi!

ise, „mTavarma arxma” Jvanias

im daqalebisa da Zmakacebis

gvarebi gamoaqvyena, romlebic

gayalbebaSi monawileobdnen..

is, rac maT gaakeTes, samarcxvinoa

_ TiTqos ar ician, rom

orjer ori oTxia!

darwmunebuli var, opozicias

Zalac eyofa da energiac,

es gayalbebebi daasabuTos, saaSkaraoze

gamoitanos da mTel

msoflios aCvenos, rom saqar-

TveloSi arCevnebi gayalbda!

amas qarTveli xalxi aravis apatiebs!

_ geTanxmebiT, magram, ba-

tono anzor, weRan pandemia

axseneT da, erT kiTxvas am ko-

nteqstSi dagisvamT, anu amas

winaT mixeil saakaSvilma ga-

nacxada, kovidinficirebulTa

raodenobas „ocneba” xalxis

dasaSineblad beravso. zogadad,

es mosazreba sazogadoebaSic

musirebs. Tqven, rogorc

eqims, risi Tqma SegiZli-

aT, xelisufleba koronas xa-

lxis protestis Sesakaveblad

xom ar iyenebs?

_ TbilisSi uamravi cxeleb-

anzor melia:

`nika magaT ar

dauTmobs _

fizikuradac Zlieria,

ganaTlebulicaa,

vaJkacicaa da, aba,

romelime Seejibros!~

is centria, Tumca miuxedavad

amisa, saavadmyofoebi isea gadatvirTuli,

rom ori dRe

damWirda, koviddadasturebuli

pacienti specializebul

klinikaSi gadameyvana. SeiZleba,

zogs sezonuri gripic aqvs...

saerTod, mosaxleoba gripis

vaqcinas ikeTebs da kovidinficirebulTa

ricxvi, albaT,

Semcirdeba. axla ki ar mgonia,

es ricxvi Zalian gaberili iyos,

radgan adgilebi marTla

araa.

_ mokled, xalxs korona

utevs, xelisufleba ki, imis

nacvlad, rom pandemias ebrZo-

los, Tqvens vaJs esxmis Tavs.

arada, privatul saubrebSi

„qocebic” ki amboben rom gl-

danSi arCevnebi upirobod nika

meliam moigo. „ocneba” nikas

winaaRmdeg e. w. specoperacias

`mTelma saqarTvelom icis, nikas rogor moeqcnen

da parlamentidan rogor gamoabunZules. is

parlamentarebi, romlebic nikas arakacurad

moeqcnen, istoriaSi Savi asoebiT Sevlen - maT

kolega dasaWerad gawires da ar mgonia, es

kargi saqcieli iyos, miT umetes, rom yvelam

icis, nika maqinaciebSi CarTuli araa!~

specoperaciaze ratom atar-

ebs?

_ mTelma saqarTvelom icis,

nikas rogor moeqcnen da parlamentidan

rogor gamoabunZules.

is parlamentarebi, romlebic

nikas arakacurad moeqcnen,

istoriaSi Savi asoebiT

Sevlen _ maT kolega dasaWerad

gawires da ar mgonia, es kargi

saqcieli iyos, miT umetes, rom

yvelam icis, nika maqinaciebSi

CarTuli araa!

amas imitom ar vambob, rom

Cemi Svilia. bavSvobidan aseTia

_ tyuils ver itans, pirdapiri

da Zalian mozomilia, anu bebia,

dedis deda, raWveli iyo

da nikasac raWuli simSvide da

Tavdajerebuloba aqvs. wyobidan

rom gamoiyvano da mis Tavmoyvareobaze

imoqmedo, Zalian

unda moindomo. politikam

ki, xom xedavT, rogor daZaba.

samSoblos Ralatsa da TvalTmaqcobas

ver itans. nikasaviT

sufTa pirovneba kobaxiZes awyobs,

mdinaraZes, milioner kalaZes

Tu „vardo mrecxavs”?

nikas Tavi erT biznesSic ar

aqvs Cayofili. rac gvaqvs, Cemidan

da Cemi mSoblebidan modis!

nikas materialurad araferi

Seuqmnia.

me da Cemma meuRlem mxolod

kargi swavla-ganaTleba miveciT,

ojaxisa da samSoblos siyvaruli

CavunergeT! nikasnairi

patiosnebi RmerTma gvimravlos!

sxvaTa Soris, 5 Tve nika

ar menaxa, 31 oqtombers vnaxe

da aRfrTovanebuli davrCi.

_ ratom?

_ mis gverdiT mxolod jansaRi,

ganaTlebuli, nakiTxi da

Zalian erTguli axalgazrdebi

trialeben!

rac Seexeba imas, Tu ratom

gaxda nika „ocnebisTvis” aseTi

miuRebeli, gldans _ amxela

ubans igebda da amitom! kobiaSvili

maJoritari oTxi weli

iyo, magram mosaxleobas arc

unaxavs. nikam ki, saarCevno kampaniis

dros, TiToeuli ojaxi

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