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`sanam pirSi suli midgas,
gabrazebuli var. ise, ubral-
giorgi abaSiZe
od ki ara, Zalian gabrazebuli
var! darwmunebuli var, rom am
qveyanaSi yvela saRad moazrovne adamiani CemsaviT Zalian gabrazebulia,
radgan xmebi mogvpares da arCevnebi gagviyalbes, magram
piradad me Zalian gabrazebisTvis sxva sababic maqvs _ vi-
Rac erTujrediani dupletebi socialur qselSi genialur kar-
diologs, anzor melias Tavs mxolod imitom esxmian, rom nikas
mamaa! am erTujrediani dupletebis diagnozi „qocobaa”! diax,
„qocoba”, karga xania, diagnozia, diagnozi, romelic, saube-
durod, ar ikurneba da „qocobiT” daavadebulebs verc anzor
melia gankurnavs, Tumca Cemi respondenti ambobs, rom bolom-
de ibrZolebs, rom am qveynis saTaveSi iseTi xelisufleba mo-
vides, romelic qarTul saqmes gaakeTebs da xalxs mixedavs!
ise, sanam intervius Semog-
TavazebT, im emociur gancxadebas
gagaxsenebT, romelic
ramdenime dRis win, anu maSin,
roca xelisuflebam nika melias
xelaxali dasja gadawyvita
da e. w. eleqtrosamajuris moxsnis
gamo prokuraturam enm-s
politsabWos liderisTvis aRkveTi
RonisZiebis gamkacrebis
moTxovniT sasamarTlos mimar-
Ta, anzor meliam sasamarTlos
ezoSi gaakeTa:
„nika isjeba samSoblos siyvarulis
gamo, CemTvis gansakuTrebiT
mZimea es yvelaferi
imitom, rom mSobeli var! patimrobaSi
myofi nika melia ufro
saSiSi iqneba am mTavrobis-
Tvis, vidre gareT myofi.
Tqvenc xedavdiT, Tu ra upiratesobiT
igebda da Semdeg
rogor datrialda yvelaferi.
SeuZlebelia, rom mSvidad uyuro
am situacias, miT umetes,
rom Seni Svilia. Cemi Svilia da
yovelTvis Cems Tavs vusvam xolme
kiTxvas, ratom Cemi Svili?
magram Tu ara Cemma Svilma,
vin unda gaakeTos qarTuli saqme?
bavSvobidan gamoirCeoda
Tavisi gulwrfelobiT, patiosnebiT,
vaJkacobiT, tyuili
man ar icoda, lideri iyo!
ar unda am mTavrobas aseTi
adamianebi, saqarTvelos ki
sWirdeba imitom, rom sxvanairad
daviRupebiT!
yvela dargi ispoba, xom xedaven
TviTonac? kobaxiZem gamoiaros
da naxos, rogor suls
vRafavT eqimebi da klinikebi,
ramxela fasebi aqvs wamlebs,
avadmyofebi ver yiduloben da
nika aris, Turme, teroristi.
girao erTxel gadaixada nikam,
bina CavdeT da erTsa da
imave saqmeze orjer xom ar gadaixdis?
am mTavrobisgan yvelafers
cuds velodebiT da ukve mzad
varT me da Cemi meuRle _ nika
rom wavida politikaSi da dinebis
sawinaaRmdegod airCia
moZraoba, mSobeli ras unda
elodos?
taSiT ivaniSvili magas ar
daajildoebs. bevrjer hqondaT
mcdeloba, gadaebirebinaT
nika, magram ar gamouvidaT da
axla patimroba surT, Tumca
unda icodes, rom patimrobaSi
myofi nika ufro saSiSi iqneba
am mTavrobisTvis, vidre gareT!”
sabednierod, mamis prognozi
ar gamarTlda _ „ocnebam”
nika melias daWera ver gabeda
da mxolod imas dasjerda, rom
damatebiT 40 aTasis gadaxda
daakisra. rogorc anzor melia
„qronika+~-sTan ambobs, am Tanxis
gadaxdas ar apireben.
mokled, Cveni gamocema gTavazobT
eqskluziur inter-
vius anzor meliasTan:
_ batono anzor, yvelam viciT,
rom „ocnebam” xalxs xme-
bi mohpara, magram isic viciT,
rom pirvel adgilze moparvis
gareSec gavidoda. hoda, Tqve-
ni azriT, ivaniSvilis gundma
arCevnebi ase totalurad ra-
tom gaayalba?
_ amaze mec bevrs vfiqrob...
mTavroba arCevnebis gasayalbeblad
rom emzadeboda, amas
kobaxiZisa da kalaZis gamosvlebic
adasturebs, romlebic
ambobdnen, 60 procentze mets
aviRebTo, arada, xalxis ganwyoba
zustad icodnen da ician.
amitom mzad iyvnen, xaxvi, kartofili,
pomidori da kidev ra-
Racebi, maT Soris, fulic daerigebinaT,
magram ar elodnen,
rom koronavirusis epidemiis
gamo saarCevno ubnebTan amdeni
raodenobis adamiani mividoda.
is rezervi ki, romelic
„ocnebas” xalxis mosasyidad
hqonda gamoyofili, sakmarisi
ar aRmoCnda.
sxvaTa Soris, TavianTi Sida
kvlevebiTac icodnen, rom xalxis
ganwyoba maT mimarT uaryofiTi
iyo da mxolod im Sem-
TxvevaSi gaimarjvebdnen, Tu
amomrCevlis aqtiuroba naklebi
iqneboda, magram piriqiT moxda.
„ocneba” gamouval mdgomareobaSi
aRmoCnda da, xelisuflebis
dakargvis SiSiT qaosuri
gadawyvetileba miiRo, rom ar-
Cevnebi gaeyalbebina, raSic gamocdili
qalbatoni Jvania daexmara.
amitom qarTveli eris
winaSe am qalbatonma aucileblad
unda agos pasuxi!
ise, „mTavarma arxma” Jvanias
im daqalebisa da Zmakacebis
gvarebi gamoaqvyena, romlebic
gayalbebaSi monawileobdnen..
is, rac maT gaakeTes, samarcxvinoa
_ TiTqos ar ician, rom
orjer ori oTxia!
darwmunebuli var, opozicias
Zalac eyofa da energiac,
es gayalbebebi daasabuTos, saaSkaraoze
gamoitanos da mTel
msoflios aCvenos, rom saqar-
TveloSi arCevnebi gayalbda!
amas qarTveli xalxi aravis apatiebs!
_ geTanxmebiT, magram, ba-
tono anzor, weRan pandemia
axseneT da, erT kiTxvas am ko-
nteqstSi dagisvamT, anu amas
winaT mixeil saakaSvilma ga-
nacxada, kovidinficirebulTa
raodenobas „ocneba” xalxis
dasaSineblad beravso. zogadad,
es mosazreba sazogadoebaSic
musirebs. Tqven, rogorc
eqims, risi Tqma SegiZli-
aT, xelisufleba koronas xa-
lxis protestis Sesakaveblad
xom ar iyenebs?
_ TbilisSi uamravi cxeleb-
anzor melia:
`nika magaT ar
dauTmobs _
fizikuradac Zlieria,
ganaTlebulicaa,
vaJkacicaa da, aba,
romelime Seejibros!~
is centria, Tumca miuxedavad
amisa, saavadmyofoebi isea gadatvirTuli,
rom ori dRe
damWirda, koviddadasturebuli
pacienti specializebul
klinikaSi gadameyvana. SeiZleba,
zogs sezonuri gripic aqvs...
saerTod, mosaxleoba gripis
vaqcinas ikeTebs da kovidinficirebulTa
ricxvi, albaT,
Semcirdeba. axla ki ar mgonia,
es ricxvi Zalian gaberili iyos,
radgan adgilebi marTla
araa.
_ mokled, xalxs korona
utevs, xelisufleba ki, imis
nacvlad, rom pandemias ebrZo-
los, Tqvens vaJs esxmis Tavs.
arada, privatul saubrebSi
„qocebic” ki amboben rom gl-
danSi arCevnebi upirobod nika
meliam moigo. „ocneba” nikas
winaaRmdeg e. w. specoperacias
`mTelma saqarTvelom icis, nikas rogor moeqcnen
da parlamentidan rogor gamoabunZules. is
parlamentarebi, romlebic nikas arakacurad
moeqcnen, istoriaSi Savi asoebiT Sevlen - maT
kolega dasaWerad gawires da ar mgonia, es
kargi saqcieli iyos, miT umetes, rom yvelam
icis, nika maqinaciebSi CarTuli araa!~
specoperaciaze ratom atar-
ebs?
_ mTelma saqarTvelom icis,
nikas rogor moeqcnen da parlamentidan
rogor gamoabunZules.
is parlamentarebi, romlebic
nikas arakacurad moeqcnen,
istoriaSi Savi asoebiT
Sevlen _ maT kolega dasaWerad
gawires da ar mgonia, es kargi
saqcieli iyos, miT umetes, rom
yvelam icis, nika maqinaciebSi
CarTuli araa!
amas imitom ar vambob, rom
Cemi Svilia. bavSvobidan aseTia
_ tyuils ver itans, pirdapiri
da Zalian mozomilia, anu bebia,
dedis deda, raWveli iyo
da nikasac raWuli simSvide da
Tavdajerebuloba aqvs. wyobidan
rom gamoiyvano da mis Tavmoyvareobaze
imoqmedo, Zalian
unda moindomo. politikam
ki, xom xedavT, rogor daZaba.
samSoblos Ralatsa da TvalTmaqcobas
ver itans. nikasaviT
sufTa pirovneba kobaxiZes awyobs,
mdinaraZes, milioner kalaZes
Tu „vardo mrecxavs”?
nikas Tavi erT biznesSic ar
aqvs Cayofili. rac gvaqvs, Cemidan
da Cemi mSoblebidan modis!
nikas materialurad araferi
Seuqmnia.
me da Cemma meuRlem mxolod
kargi swavla-ganaTleba miveciT,
ojaxisa da samSoblos siyvaruli
CavunergeT! nikasnairi
patiosnebi RmerTma gvimravlos!
sxvaTa Soris, 5 Tve nika
ar menaxa, 31 oqtombers vnaxe
da aRfrTovanebuli davrCi.
_ ratom?
_ mis gverdiT mxolod jansaRi,
ganaTlebuli, nakiTxi da
Zalian erTguli axalgazrdebi
trialeben!
rac Seexeba imas, Tu ratom
gaxda nika „ocnebisTvis” aseTi
miuRebeli, gldans _ amxela
ubans igebda da amitom! kobiaSvili
maJoritari oTxi weli
iyo, magram mosaxleobas arc
unaxavs. nikam ki, saarCevno kampaniis
dros, TiToeuli ojaxi
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