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skandaluri sqema, romliTac

bavSvmac ki icis, rom 31 oq-

giorgi abaSiZe

tombris arCevnebi gayalbda.

marTalia, „ocneba” ixtibars ar

itexs da Tavs imSvidebs, xmebi aravis mouparavs da calkeuli

xarvezebi, ubralod, adamianuri Secdomebia da meti arafer-

io, magram opozicias gayalbebis utyuari mtkicebulebebi

aqvs. ai, magaliTad, politikuri moZraoba „tribunis” warmo-

madgeneli kote kemularia skandalur gancxadebas akeTebs.

kerZod, kemularias TqmiT, 31 oqtombers, SuaRamisas, ceskos

xelmZRvanel Tamar Jvanias miTiTebiT is specprograma gamoirTo,

romelic saarCevno administraciis serverze daubal-

ansebeli oqmebis atvirTvis saSualebas ar iZleva.

„cesko rom marTavda gayalbe-

bas, amis damadasturebeli bevri

mtkicebuleba dagrovda. pirve-

li is aris, rom 23 saaTis Semdeg

oqmebis atvirTva SeCerda. amas,

Tamaras garda, veravin izamda.

ceskos kompiuterSi daubalansebeli

oqmi ver aitvirTeba _ pro-

grama gamoagdebs, e. i. mosyidva

da daSineba rom ver gamodga sa-

Tanado xmebis Sesagroveblad,

cesko uprecedento danaSaulze

wavida _ gamorTo gayalbebis

sawinaaRmdego programa (Ramis

12 saaTze) da daiwyo oqmebis

gadakeTeba „ocnebis” sasarge-

blod da daubalansebeli oqmeb-

is atvirTva. amas didi gamoZieba

ar sWirdeba. rogorc ki dain-

teresdeba gamoZieba, rogor

aitvirTa daubalansebeli oqmebi,

iqve naTeli gaxdeba, ra Caid-

ines”, _ ambobs kote kemularia

romelic „qronika+~-sTan kidev

erT skandalur gancxadebas ake-

Tebs. kerZod, kemularias TqmiT,

„ocneba” opoziciis mosyidvas

100 milioni dolariT cdilobda,

magram cdunebas yvela opoz-

iciurma subieqtma gauZlo.

gTavazobT skandalur inter-

vius kote kemulariasTan:

_ batono kote, ras ityviT,

qveyanaSi politikuri krizisia?

_ diax, politikuri krizisia.

_ damisabuTeT, ratom?

_ mogexsenebaT, saparlamento

respublikaSi ZiriTadi politikuri

movlena saparlamento arCevnebia,

romliTac saxelmwifos

marTva icvleba. im 9 partiidan,

romelic ceskos monacemebiT parlamentSi

Sevida, rva partia

arCevnebs legitimurad ar cnobs

da protestis ukiduress formas

mimarTavs _ sakanonmdeblo organoSi

ar Sedis. isic ki, visac politologia

pirvel kursze aqvs naswavli,

kategoriulad ityvis,

rom es umZimesi politikuri krizisi

da uprecedento movlenaa.

yovel SemTxvevaSi, piradad me

arc maxsendeba, rom opozicias

arCevnebi aralegitimurad gamoecxadebinos

da parlamentSi ar

Sesuliyos. sxvaTa Soris, am aralegitimurobis

mtkicebulebebic

arsebobs. bolos da bolos, 21-e

saukunea da mtkicebulebebis

mopoveba rTuli araa.

_ sanam mtkicebulebebze ga-

davalT, „ocnebis” pozicias

gagaxsenebT, anu ivaniSvilis gundis

wevrebi Tavs igiJeben, gay-

albeba ar yofilao da iqve dasZ-

enen, kargia, opozicia parlamen-

tSi Tu Semova, magram Tu boi-

kots gaagrZelebs, arc es iqneba

problemao. es ki arada, mdinaraZis

gancxadebiT, biuleteneb-

is gadaTvliT, „ocnebis” xmebi,

Turme, kidev ufro gaizarda...

arda...

_ xelisufleba xilulad da

uxilavad gavyoT.

_ anu?

_ SeSinebuli da gafiTrebuli

mdinaraZeebis gancxadebebze komentars

nu gamakeTebinebT da

ufro zeviT avideT, sadac gadawyvetilebebi

miiReba.

_ ki batono, avideT da iciT,

zeviT ra xdeba?

_ migzavnebi da SeTavazebebia.

sxvaTa Soris, tikaraZis gancxadeba

vnaxe, Cven molaparakebebisa da

SeTanxmebisTvis mzad varTo.

daakvirdiT, amas mTavrobis wevri

ambobs. ramdenime dRis win „magari

biWis”, kobaxiZis gancxadebac

gavixsenoT.

_ kobaxiZe gancxadebas gancx-

adebaze akeTebs da Tqven romel

gancxadebas ixsenebT, kote ba-

tono?

_ erTpartiuli parlamenti ar

ivargebs, kargi ar iqneba da imedi

maqvs, movilaparakebT da

opozicia Semovao.

_ yvelafer amiT saubari

saiTken migyavT?

_ erT arcTu kuluarul da

gadamowmebul informacias gagiziarebT

_ xalxs ugzavnian da sakmaod

solidur Tanxebsac sTavazoben.

nel-nela es imedi uqrebaT

da is Rimili SeacivdaT, romelic

Tavidan hqondaT, _ ras laparakobT,

kaco, Cven cal-calke an

jguf-jgufad viyidiTo. yoCaR,

opozicias da yoCaR, sazogadoebas!

_ batono kote, daakonkreteT,

Suamavali vin iyo an „ocnebam”

romel opozicioners miugzavna?

_ TiTqmis yvelas!

_ „ocnebis” mstovrebi „tri-

bunaSic” movidnen?

_ piradad CemTan aravin mosula,

magram Tbilisi patara qalaqia,

yvela yvelas vicnobT da darwmunebuli

var, yvelgan iqneboda,

_ aba, kaco, ras SvrebiT da

icodeT, aq varTo... magram yvelaferi

es erTianma opoziciam

aisxlita, riTac Zalian kmayofili

var! e. i., Cven axali Taobis

politikosebi gagvezardnen,

romelTac gamarjvebis fasic

ician, Tavisuflebisac da imisic,

rom gamarjveba ar iyideba!

_ socialur qselSi gavr-

celebuli xmiT „ocnebasa” da

opozicias Soris Suamavalis misias

kote kublaSvili asruleb-

da. amis Sesaxeb Tqvenc gsmeniaT?

kote kemularia:

`parlamentSi

Sesvlis sanacvlod

`ocneba~ opozicias

astronomiul

Tanxas _ 100

milion dolars

sTavazobda!~

_ gvar-saxelebs ver davasaxeleb,

magram vici, rom aseTi erTi

ki ara, ramdenimea da isic vici,

rom „ocnebas” imedi nel-nela

ukvdeba, arada, Tavidan sakmaod

maJorul ganwyobaze iyo. sxvaTa

Soris, sajarodac iTqva, rom

SeTanxmeba SesaZloa, dasavleTis

monawileobiT Semdgariyo, magram

es mosazrebac kvdeba. dasavleTi

ver dauSvebs precedents, rom

arCevnebis „oficialuri Sedegebi”

gadakeTdes. ise, imaze, es cesko

rac aris, albaT, calke unda

visaubroT.

_ araa problema, visaubroT,

magram jer es Tema amovwuroT _

„ocneba” opozicias, parlamentSi

Sesvlis sanacvlod, fuls sTavazobda

Tu, ubralod, procente-

bis awevaze evaWreboda?

_ TanxebiT procentebis gadanawilebas.

_ es ras niSnavs?

_ Cven daviklebT da Tqven

mogimatebTo.

_ anu opozicias, parlamentSi

Sesvlis sanacvlod, Tanxas

sTavazobdnen?

_ diax, astronomiuli Tanxa

iyo dasaxelebuli _ 100 milioni

dolari!

_ am 100 milions romelime konkretul

subieqts sTavazobd-

nen?

_ ara, es saerTo Tanxa iyo,

razedac opoziciam, sabednierod,

uari Tqva!

_ sxvaTa Soris, batono kote,

cekoSi xmebis gayalbebaze skand-

aluri gancxadeba gaakeTeT, anu

is sqema gaSifreT, romliTac ar-

Cevnebi mogvpares. am sqemis Sesa-

xeb saidan da rogor SeityveT?

_ is, rac vTqvi, ceskos yofilma

Tavmjdomareebmac daadas-

`tragedia isaa, rom es daubalansebeli oqmebi

ceskos saitze aitvirTa, anu zemoxsenebuli

programa viRacam gamorTo. amitomac vTqvi,

Zalian advilia, gamoZieba daiwyos da

gairkves, es programa Tamarma gamorTo,

giorgim Tu vinme sxvam?~

tures... rogorc vici, jer kidev

2010 wlidan ceskoSi antigayalbebis

programa arsebobs, romelic,

Tavis droze, frangebma daamuSaves.

_ „antigayalbebis programa”

ras niSnavs?

_ daubalansebel oqmebs sistema

ar tvirTavs da, praqtikulad,

ukan abrunebs. ceskos yofilma

Tavmjdomarem erT-erTi satelevizio

gamosvlisas ganacxada, rom

am programis danergvidan ori

wlis Semdeg, anu 2012 wels, ceskos

erTi daubalansebeli oqmic

ki ar daufiqsirebia. axla ki

gveubnebian, rom 90 oqmidan lamis

88 daubalansebelia.

erTi sityviT, tragedia isaa,

rom es daubalansebeli oqmebi

ceskos saitze aitvirTa, anu

zemoxsenebuli programa viRacam

gamorTo. amitomac vTqvi, Zalian

advilia, gamoZieba daiwyos da

gairkves, es programa Tamarma

gamorTo, giorgim Tu vinme sxvam?

_ Tqveni informaciiT, am programis

gamorTva vis xelewifebo-

da?

_ Tamaras gankargulebis gareSe

veravin gamorTavda, Tumca

rogorc meubnebian, Tamaras garda

iq sus-is ramdenime TanamSromelia.

aseve „odereebic” sxedan.

asea Tu ise, pasuxi Tamaras

unda moeTxovos, Tundac samsaxurebriv

gulgrilobaze _ programa

giorgis an murads rom

gamoerTo, Tamaram erTi ambavi

ratom ar atexa da yvelafris

„gapraveba” ratom daiwyo?

sxvaTa Soris, cesko ubnebis

gadaTvlas Seudga, magram gana,

SeiZleba, mgelma, romelmac cxvari

SeWama, mas inventarizacia

davavaloT? mgeli ityvis, yvela

cxvari adgilzeao. hoda, axla,

rogor ggoniaT, xmebs ganmeorebiT

Tamara iTvlis? ki ar iTvlis,

getyviT, rac xdeba.

_ ra xdeba?

_ ai, magaliTad, CuRureTis

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