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„ocneba” kontrolidan gamovida.
Zalauflebis dakargvis SiSiT Sepyrobilebma wylis WavliT
daarbies 100-mde adamiani. gamoiyenes mxuTavi airic, Tum-
ca bolo momentamde amas ar aRiarebdnen. airi da wylis Wavli
8-9 ivnisis Rames kidev ramdenjerme gamoiyenes opoziciis
winaaRmdeg, magram saprotesto ganwyoba ver Caaqres. pirvel
darbevaSi moyva „strategia aRmaSeneblis” erT-erTi lideri,
ana kobaxiZec. misi TqmiT, aranairi aucilebloba ar iyo, rom
Zala gamoeyenebinaT. kobaxiZe fiqrobs, rom 100-mde adamians
xelisufleba sxvebis dasaSineblad gausworda.
ra moxda ceskosTan? ratom
daiwyo xelisuflebam darbeva?
ras erCodnen qalebsa da Jur-
nalistebs? SeSinda Tu ara
xalxi? ratom wava xelisufleba
daTmobaze? _ amis Sesaxeb ana
kobaxiZe „qronika+~-s esaubreba:
_ ana, xelisufleba acxadebs,
rom is iZulebuli gaxda, wylis
Wavli gamoeyenebina, radgan
opoziciis momxreebi radikalur
qmedebebs mimarTavdnen. ra Caid-
ineT aseTi, rom xelisufleba
iZulebuli gaxda, wylis Wavli
gamoeyenebina?
_ arc ukanono da arc radikaluri
nabiji opozicias ar
gadaudgams. Cven arCevnebi mogvpares
da amis gasaprotesteblad
gamovediT quCaSi. imas, rac centraluri
saarCevno komisiis SenobasTan
moxda, aranairi gamarTleba
ar aqvs. gansakuTrebiT
pirveli darbevaa gaumarTlebeli.
roca Cveni darbeva daiwyes,
sul raRac, 100 adamiani viyaviT.
mivediT Tu ara ceskosTan, maSinve
wylis Wavli gamoiyenes. Tan
es yovelgvari gafrTxilebis
gareSe gaakeTes. kanoniT, roca
wylis Wavls iyeneb, amis Sesaxeb
adamianebi unda gaafrTxilo. wylis
Wavlis garda gamoiyenes
raRac airi. aman aqciis monawileebSi
Tvalebisa da yelis wva
gamoiwvia. bevri cudad gaxda.
_ Sss karga xans uaryofda,
rom maT aqciis monawileebis
winaaRmdeg mxuTavi gazi gam-
oiyenes.
_ bolos mainc mouwiaT aRiareba,
rom wylis WavlTan erTad
raRac tipis gazic gamoiyenes.
_ amboben, gazi ar iyo, wiwakis
sprei gamoviyeneTo.
_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs, ras
daarqmeven am gazs?! maT mier
gamoyenebulma gazma adamianebs
seriozuli problemebi Seuqmna.
bevri veRar sunTqavda.
_ Tu mSvidad mixvediT ceskosTan,
ase ratom gagimetaT xe-
lisuflebam?
_ Cveni aqcia iyo absoluturad
mSvidobiani. xalxis raodenobac
mcire iyo. ramdenime aTass
policiels veranair problemas
ver SevuqmnidiT da verc ceskoSi
SeviWrebodiT. maT darbeva
sul sxva mizniT ganaxorcieles
_ egonaT, rom amiT xalxs Sea-
Sinebdnen. mogexsenebaT, roca
darbeva daiwyo, opoziciisa da
aqciis monawileebis kolona jer
kidev gzaSi iyo.
_ es 100 adamiani iq ase adre
rogor aRmoCnda? rame mizezi
gqondaT, rom adgilze adre mis-
uliyaviT?
_ adre misasvlelad aranairi
mizezi ar gvqonda, moxda ise, rom
zogi rusTavelidan ceskosTan
manqanebiT gaemarTa. amitom aRmovCndiT
iq opoziciur kolonaze
adre. kolonam 15 kilometramde
gamoara fexiT, rom ceskomde
mosuliyo. 15 kilometris gavla
ioli ar aris. vfiqrob, imitom
daiwyes Cveni darbeva, rom
egonaT, kolonaSi myofi adamianebi
SeSindebodnen da gaiqceodnen.
moxda piriqiT, kolonidan aravin
gaqceula da ukve saxlSi wasuli
adamianebic ceskosTan movidnen.
darbevaze xalxs yovelTvis mwvave
reaqcia aqvs.
_ aqciis monawileebi amboben,
rom gansakuTrebiT Jurnal-
istebsa da qalebs erCodnen
robokopebi. ras erCodnen an me-
dias, an qalebs?
_ Jurnalistebs Segnebulad
da damiznebiT esrodnen wylis
Wavls. maT daazianes kamerebi,
dazianebebi miayenes Jurnalistebsa
da operatorebs. „qarTul
ocnebas” ar awyobda, rom xalxs
simarTle gaego, amitomac moxvdnen
dartymis qveS Jurnalistebi.
_ qalebs ras gerCodnenT?
daSavebulia ramdenime qali.
adre qalebis cemasa da da-
zianebas mainc eridebodnen.
_ ramdenime qali daSavda, bevri
dagvasveles, magram ver vityvi,
rom qalebi Segnebulad
vyavdiT mizanSi amoRebuli. Cven-
Tan qalebi yovelTvis brZolis
wina xazze arian. axlac wina xazze
aRmovCndiT da davzaraldiT
kidec. mamakacebic seriozulad
dazaraldnen. ramdenimes Tvali
dauzianda seriozulad. aravin
icis, aqciis ramdeni monawile gacivdeba.
am yinvaSi civi wylis
dasxma rogor SeiZleba?! garda
imisa, rom amis saWiroeba ar iyo,
wylis Wavli yovelgvari gafrTxilebis
gareSe gamoiyenes.
_ momdevno darbevis Semdeg xom
gagafrTxilaT xelisuflebam?
_ arc SemdegSi gagvafrTxilebdnen,
magram pirvel darbevas
didi xmauri mohyva. yvelam gaaprotesta,
rom gaufrTxileblad
gamoiyenes wylis Wavli. sagangebo
gancxadeba gaakeTa saxalxo
damcvelmac.
_ bevri fiqrobs, rom ulti-
matumis wayeneba da ceskosTan
misvla Secdoma iyo. Tqven ras
ityviT?
_ arc ultimatumis wayeneba
iyo Secdoma, arc _ ceskosTan
misvla da protestis gamoxatva.
Cven vaprotestebT arCevnebis
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ana kobaxiZe:
`xelisuflebas
daTmobaze
wasvla mouwevs~
gayalbebas. arCevnebi ki ceskom
gaayalba. normaluria, rom ceskos
Tavmjdomaris gadayeneba moviTxoveT
da isic nomaluria, rom
moTxovnis Seusruleblobis Semdeg
ceskosTan wavediT.
_ am ultimatumiT erTgvar
provokaciaze waxvediT. xom
icodiT, rom sam saaTSi ivaniSvili
Tamar Jvanias ar gadaay-
enebda?
_ Tu ar viaqtiureT da xma ar
`adre misasvlelad aranairi mizezi ar gvqonda,
moxda ise, rom zogi rusTavelidan ceskosTan
manqanebiT gaemarTa. amitom aRmovCndiT iq
opoziciur kolonaze adre. kolonam 15
kilometramde gamoara fexiT, rom ceskomde
mosuliyo. 15 kilometris gavla ioli ar aris.
vfiqrob, imitom daiwyes Cveni darbeva, rom
egonaT, kolonaSi myofi adamianebi
SeSindebodnen da gaiqceodnen. moxda piriqiT,
kolonidan aravin gaqceula da ukve saxlSi
wasuli adamianebic ceskosTan movidnen~
amoviReT, saerTod ar gadaayenebs
Jvanias ivaniSvili. arc xelaxali
arCevnebi Catardeba.
roca arCevans gparaven, iZulebuli
xar, sakuTari xmis dasacavad
ibrZolo.
_ roca ceskosTan waxvediT,
ar gifiqriaT, rom darbeva iqne-
boda?
_ darbevas velodiT, magram
100 kacis gamoCenas Tu aseTi ambavi
moyveboda ar gvegona. xelisufleba
Zalian SeSinebulia
da Secdomas Secdomaze uSvebs.
samagierod, Cven varT myarad,
_ xalxic mtkiced dgas?
_ ufro mtkicedac ki, vidre
opozicia. ivaniSvilma xom pirvel
rigSi maT mopara arCevani. rodesac
ceskosTan aqcia daSlilad
gamocxadda, xalxis didi nawili
ukmayofilo darCa. maT Tqves,
rom isini ukanonobis gasaprotesteblad
gamovidnen quCaSi da
saxlSi wasvla ar surdaT. maTi iq
datoveba ar SeiZleboda da amitom
daviSaleT droebiT. roca
saWiro gaxdeba, ceskosTan isev
mivalT. arc mxuTavi airis gveSinia
da arc _ wylis Wavlis.
_ arada, axla wylis Wavli
Zalian saSiSia.
_ saSiSia, magram cvlilebebi
Tu ar moxda, am qveyanaSi cxovreba
iqneba saSiSi. Cven normaluri
qveynis aSeneba gvinda da amitom
mzad varT yvelanairi gamowvevisTvis.
Cveni brZola aucileblad
gamoiRebs Sedegs. davibrunebT
moparul xmebs da SevqmniT
koaliciur mTavrobas.
_ es im SemTxvevaSi moxdeba, Tu
xelisufleba daTmobaze wamova.
_ maT sxva gza arc aqvT. „qar-
Tuli ocneba” axla ar aris im
mdgomareobaSi, rom daTmobaze
ar wamovides.
_ amis Tqmis safuZvels ra
gaZlevT? gaxariam da kalaZem
isaubres dialogis aucileblobaze.
es sakmarisia aseTi prog-
nozis gasakeTeblad?
_ aqamde isini dialogsac ar
axsenebdnen. axla amboben, rom sa-
Wiroa dialogio. es ukve kargia.
_ dialogi axsenes, magram ko-
mpromisze wavalTo, ar uTqvamT.
_ mouwevT daTmobaze wasvla.
gaxsovT, SarSanac ra did gulze
iyo xelisufleba, roca sakonstitucio
cvlilebebi Caagdes?
gviTxres, dialogisTvis kari daketiliao.
saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobis
CarTulobis Semdeg dialogzec
wamovidnen da daTmes
kidevac. axlac igive moxdeba _
xelisuflebas daTmobaze wasvla
mouwevs.
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