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`es gayalbebebi Cveulebrivi
postsaarCevno saqarTveloSi
giorgi abaSiZe
movlenebi fatalurad viTardeba
da wyali ar gauva, „ocneba”, dRes
Tu ara xval, iZulebuli gaxdeba, ukan daixios, arCevnebis gay-
albeba aRiaros da xelisuflebidan wavides, Tumca rogorc
yvela wyalwaRebuli, ivaniSvilis gundic xavss ebRauWeba da
xalxis protestis ganeitralebas wylis WavliT cdilobs.
ise, „ocneba”, albaT, fiqrobda,
rom gayalbebuli arCevnebi,
rogorc ityvian, xaxviviT SerCeboda
da opoziciuri speqtri
parlamentSi Sevidoda, magram
moxda is, rasac mmarTveli gundi
ar eloda _ sruliad opoziciuri
speqtri meaTe mowvevis
parlaments boikots ucxadebs
da 31 oqtombris arCevnebs aralegitimurad
miiCnevs!
erT-erTi pirveli, vinc parlamentSi
Sesvlaze uari ganacxada,
partia „kanoni da samarTlis”
xelmZRvaneli, „strategia
aRmaSeneblis” erT-erTi lideri,
Tako Carkviani iyo.
„mokled da konkretulad
vityvi: mirekaven da milocaven
parlamentSi Sesvlas. gmad-
lobT, megobrebo, magram es ar
iyo Cveni (Cemi) mizani, anu dep-
utatoba, madloba, vinc xmebi
mogvca, magram cudi da katas-
trofa isaa, rom xelisufleba,
anu „ocneba” darCa totaluri
gayalbebis Sedegad. diax, al-
baT, ufro metad dafiqrdeba
„mavani” da fsevdoopoziciasac
ukeT dainaxavs, naadrevi zeimic
cota arasworia da premieri am
etapze saakaSvili ar iqneba, _
rom davwere, am etapze am poli-
tikur realobaSi-meTqi, bevrs
ar esiamovna, ver gaiges, ratom
vTqvi.
a, batono, rogorc vTqvi, isea
(Tavad Tqva adamianma, es realobaa
am etapze asea).
saTaveSi rusi oligarqia da
aq ki erTmaneTs jijgnis politikuri
speqtri, gamotenilia
„fsevdo tipebiT” da Tu vinme
niWieri gamoCnda, odnav gansxvavebuli
xedviT, „Caqolva” ar
ascdeba.
aki, vambobdi, kompasi gaasworeT
SuSis sasaxlisken-meTqi.
hoda... a, batono, axla viZaxoT
„gayalbebuli arCevnebi”. diax,
gayalbebulia da Suqic Caaqres
ubnebze da biuletenebsac iparavdnen,
daSineba, cema-tyepac
iyo da saCivrebic da videokadrebic
aris. ki batono, asea
udavod da mainc...
rusi oligarqi ivaniSvili darCa!”
_ dawera Tako Carkvianma
arCevnebis dasrulebidan ramdenime
saaTis Semdeg socialur
qselSi, Tumca am gancxadebidan
movlenebi elviseburi siswrafiT
icvleba.
yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT,
8 noembers, saRamos, „ocnebam”
ceskosTan Sekrebili mSvidobiani
momitingeebi wylis WavliT
daarbia.
„daimaxsovre!!! ar SegargebT,
yoveldRe miiReb permanentulad
protests, ar da ver ifeodaleb,
ver „imefeb”! saqarTveloSi a-ravis
gamosvlia xalxis Seuracxyofa!!!
dabolos: „araraobav, dedakaci
unda gerqvas Sen”!
...garewari xelisufleba ambobda,
rom kovidis gavrcelebis
eSinoda, wylis Wavli mSvidobian
momitingeebs rom miuSviT
gafrTxilebis gareSe, aRar
gaRelvebT kovidis gavrcelebis
saSiSroeba, Tqve farisevlebo?
xom viciT, rom wylis Wavli
gavrcelebas uwyobs xels?!!
aRar gaRelvebT xalxi da kovidi?
xalxi daSavda, Tqve TaRliTebo
da korufcionerebo!!!
es xom uaresia, ufro meti
xalxi mova da gagyriT kinwiskvriT!”
_ ase gamoexmaura socialur
qselSi Tako Carkviani 8 noebris
darbevas.
interviu, romelsac gTava-
zobT, „qronika+~-ma Tako Cark-
vianTan 7 noembers Cawera.
aqve, imasac getyviT, rom sxva
opoziciuri Zalebisgan gansxvavebiT,
„strategia aRmaSenebe-
li”, kerZod, Tako Carkviani,
gayalbebul oqmebs sasamarT-
loSi ki ara, prokuraturaSi
asaCivrebs da damnaSaveebis
sisxlis samarTlis wesiT das-
jas iTxovs!
_ Tako, praqtikulad, pirve-
li iyaviT, vinc ganacxada, rom
parlamentSi ar Seva...
_ diax, es gancxadeba arCevnebis
Ramesve, daaxloebiT, samis
wuTebze gavakeTe.
_ es gadawyvetileba sponta-
nurad miiReT?
_ ver vityvi, rom spontanurad
miviRe.
_ anu?
_ gavaanalize da mivxvdi, rom
parlamentSi xalxis ki ara, viRacis
mosamsaxured unda Sevide...
sxvaTa Soris, „strategia aRmaSenebels”
arasodes uTqvams,
parlamentSi meore Zala viqnebio,
magram yvela partiam daaxloebiT
icoda, ra rogor iqneboda.
Zalian beci unda iyo, warmodgena
rom ar gqondes, arCevnebi
SenTvis rogor wava, magram
warmoudgeneli ram moxda.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ jer oqmebi ar gvqonda, magram
savaraudo Sedegi vicodiT...
arasodes arc erT partiaSi
ar vyofilvar, magram roca qveyana
Tavze Camogvemxo, vTqvi,
politikaSi moval-meTqi da es
gadawyvetileba mxolod da mxolod
imitom miviRe, rom raRacis
gakeTeba minda. sakeklucod
da ivaniSvilis brZanebebis Sesasruleblad,
anu parlamentSi
formaluri opoziciis roliT
Sesvlas namdvilad ar vapireb!
sxvaTa Soris, erTi ram mixaria.
_ ra?
_ gayalbebis pirobebSic ki
ori Tvis Seqmnilma „strategia
aRmaSenebelma” oTxi mandati miiRo,
magram CvenTan winaaRmdegoba
aravisgan yofila da parlamentSi
arSesvlis gadawyvetileba
yvelam erTmniSvnelovnad miiRo!
_ gasagebia, rom „strategia
aRmaSeneblis” yvela wevrma am
gadawyvetilebas mxari dauWira,
magram, Cemi azriT, opoziciaSi
situacia Tqven „aWeriT”, anu
sajarod rom ar geTqvaT, par-
lamentSi ar Sevdivaro, rogor
fiqrobT, opozicia boikots
mainc gamoacxadebda?
_ imedi maqvs, rom am gadawyvetilebas
miiRebda. me is gavakeTe,
rac vigrZeni. saerTod,
iciT, rom angariSis gawevebi ar
miyvars, anu gadawyvetilebis
miRebisas aravis arafers vekiTxebi.
mTeli cxovreba amas vamtkiceb
da am arCevnebmac es daamt-
Tako Carkviani:
`ver `imefeb~!
saqarTveloSi
xalxis
Seuracxyofa
aravis gamosvlia!~
kica, rom Ria da gulwrfeli politika
ufro sainteresoa. politika
binZuri maSinaa, roca binZuri
politikanebi akeTeben mas.
Cvens qveyanas maSin eSveleba,
roca kargad gavaanalizebT, rom
politika binZuri araa. sxvas angariSi
iseT rameSi unda gauwio,
rac qveyanas waadgeba, magram
principuli gadawyvetileba pirovnulad
unda miiRo da azri,
SesaZloa, mxolod politikur
partniors hkiTxo. ise, Zalian
mixaria, rom me da giorgi vaSaZem
es gadawyvetileba usityvod
miviReT!
_ marTalia, movlenebi dra-
matulad viTardeba, magram
politikur kuluarebSi mainc
musirebs mosazreba, rom romelime
opoziciurma partiam Sesa-
Zloa, gadawyvetileba Secvalos
da parlamentSi Sevides. aseTi
molodini Tqvenc gaqvT, Tako?
_ xom xedavT, ritorika cota
`is, rac `girCma~ Tqva, ar veTanxmebi. cxadia,
yvelas SeuZlia, Tavisi azri hqondes, magram
aseTma frazam gaiJRera, Tu xelisufleba
daiklebso. daiklebs ras niSnavs? daiklebs,
ra, nucas skolaa? es arasamarTlebrivi
terminia... Cems partias `kanoni da
samarTali~ hqvia. hoda, modiT, axla es
termini - `daiklebs~ Jurnalisturad da
samarTlebrivad gadmovaqarTuloT: daiklebs,
e. i., gayalbebas aRiarebs. ase gamodis, ara?~
Seicvala.
_ „girCs” gulisxmobT?
_ is, rac „girCma” Tqva, ar
veTanxmebi. cxadia, yvelas Seu-
Zlia, Tavisi azri hqondes, magram
aseTma frazam gaiJRera, Tu
xelisufleba daiklebso. daiklebs
ras niSnavs? daiklebs, ra,
nucas skolaa? es arasamarTlebrivi
terminia... Cems partias „kanoni
da samarTali” hqvia. hoda,
modiT, axla es termini _ „daiklebs”
Jurnalisturad da samarTlebrivad
gadmovaqarTuloT:
daiklebs, e. i., gayalbebas
aRiarebs. ase gamodis, ara?
_ diax.
_ mTeli saqarTvelo velodebiT,
rom „ocnebam” gayalbeba
aRiaros da Tu amas gaakeTebs,
Zalian gagvixardeba, magram
„daiklebs” da gamyalbebeli davtovoT
da am samarTlebriv moqmedebaSi
gavyveT? xalxno, ras
vlaparakobT, cota dafiqreba
gvmarTebs!
_ mokled, asea Tu ise, „oc-
neba” gayalbebas ar aRiarebs da
imis winaaRmdegicaa, rom axali
arCevnebi dainiSnos da ambobs,
im amomrCevlebs ra vuTxra,
vinc xma me momcao?.. amasTan,
mindia ugrexeliZe gamodis iniciativiT,
rom raki sakanonmde-
blo organoSi Sesvlaze uars
ambobs, opoziciis mandatebi
„ocnebam” aiRoso. amaze ras
ityviT?
_ Cven maTi amomrCevlis xmebsac
vicavT!
_ es rogor?
_ iseTi totaluri gayalbebaa,
rom prokuraturaSi gancxadebac
SevitaneT.
_ raki totalur gayalbebaze
saubrobT, miTxariT, magaliTad,
saburTalos raionSi, sadac
maJoritarad iyridiT ken-
Ws, ramdeni xma gayalbda?
_ prokuraturaSi sarCeli 97-
ve ubnis gamo SevitaneT.
_ da am gayalbebis dokumen-
tebi gaqvT?
_ sxvaTa Soris, gayalbebis
magaliTad xaTuna gogoriSvilmac
saburTalos raioni moitana
da mixeil saakaSvilmac, rac
SemTxveviTi araa.
_ SemTxveviTi ratom araa?
_ zogma sarCeli sasamarTlo-
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