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gamoyvanili da sazogadoebas
aRizianebs. aSkaraa, rom es ivaniSvils
Zalian moswons da imdens
ver xvdeba, rom kobaxiZis
gamoxtomebi mis imijze aisaxeba
cudad.
_ laSa, darbevis detale-
bzec minda gkiTxoT. pandemiis
dros, noembris civ Rames, adamianebisTvis
civi wylis Wavlis
miSveba daxvretis tolfasia.
ratom mimarTa xelisufle-
bam am gzas?
_ imitom, rom moZaladea. Zalian
kargad ician, Tu ra Sedegebi
mohyveba amas, magram mainc
wavidnen am nabijze da adamianebi
sasikvdilod gaimetes. me gadavrCi
gaciebas, magram yvela
ver gadarCeboda. ceskosTan
cecxli gvqonda danTebuli da
aqciis monawileebis nawili iq
Sreboda da Tbeboda. gavSrebodiT,
waviwevdiT win da isev
wylis Wavls gvesrodnen.
_ eqimebis nawili aqciis
monawileebisTvis wylis miSvebas
protestiT Sexvda. samagi-
erod, muSketerebad wodebuli
eqimebi gayuCdnen. yvelgan rom
korona elandebaT, civ Rames
wylis Wavlis miSvebaze Tqves,
rom amaze komentars ver gaakeTeben.
maT samarcxvino komen-
tarze Tqven ras ityviT?
_ ver vityvi, rom maTgan ase-
Ti Sefaseba moulodneli iyo.
isini xom ivaniSvilisa da misi
partiis piarSikebad Camoyalibdnen.
amboben imas, rac xelisuflebas
awyobs. amitom ar gaaprotestes
noembris Rames xalxis
wylis WavliT darbeva. Zalian
gavbrazdi, aseTi komentari rom
gaakeTes, magram moulodneli
ar yofila. zafxulSi aWaraSi
koronam ifeTqa, magram xelisuflebis
moTxovniT muSketerebma
aWaris Caketva ar moiTxoves.
samagierod, Caketes mestia. arada,
iq Zalian cota SemTxveva
gamovlinda.
_ baTumi dendrologiuri
parkis gamo ar Caketes, sadac
adamianebi distanciis dacvis
gareSe, uniRbod gadaadgilde-
bodnen.
_ aWaraSi saTanado RonisZiebebi
sxvadasxva mizeziT ar gaatares.
marto dendrologiuri
parkis gamo ar moqceulan ase.
aWaris ambavma erT Zalian cud
daskvnamde mimiyvana. ar minda
davijero, rom es asea, magram
sxva axsna amas, ubralod, ar
aqvs.
_ ra daskvnamde mixvediT?
_ im daskvnamde mivedi, rom
ivaniSvilis xelisufleba koronaviruss
aRar ebrZvis da is
Tavis nebaze miuSva, riTac asobiT
Cveni moqalaqe, faqtobrivad,
sasikvdilod gawira.
_ xelisuflebam sikvdil-
isTvis is adamianebic gawira,
vis dasarbevadac wylis Wavli
gamoiyena.
_ es adamianebic gawires.
zafxulSi baTumi rom Caketiliyo,
dRes koronis gavrcelebis
mxriv aseTi savalalo mdgomareoba
ar gveqneboda. roca erTi
da ori SemTxveva fiqsirdeboda,
mTeli qveyana Caketes. samagierod,
maSin araferi moimoqmedes,
roca koronam ifeTqa. vfiqrob,
muSketerebma amasan dakav-
SirebiT ganmartebebi unda gaakeTon.
_ muSketerebis azri ukve
aRar aris saintereso.
_ ranairad iqneba saintereso,
yvelam icis, rom isini ityvian
mxolod imas, rac xelisuflebas
awyobs. xelisufleba am pandemias
saTavosod iyenebs. ase
iyo gazafxulze, roca mTeli
qveyana Caketes da ase axlac.
_ axla mTeli qveyana ar Cau-
ketiaT. jer mxolod did qal-
aqebSi daaweses avtomanqanebiT
gadaadgilebaze SezRudva.
_ es aris Cveulebrvi komendatis
saaTi, romlis SemoRebac
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`im daskvnamde mivedi, rom ivaniSvilis xelisufleba koronaviruss aRar
ebrZvis da is Tavis nebaze miuSva, riTac asobiT Cveni moqalaqe,
faqtobrivad, sasikvdilod gawira~
aris sruli uazroba da absurdi.
_ ratom aris uazroba?
_ imitom, rom es aranair
Sedegs ar gamoiRebs. vinmem amixsnas,
ra Sedegs moitans 22.00
saaTidan 05.00 saaTamde gadaadgilebis
SezRudva. ivaniSvils
etyoba, hgonia, rom korona mxolod
Ramis saaTebSi vrceldeba.
am versias Tu ganaviTarebda,
muSketerebic daeTanxmebodnen.
aba, mis winaaRmdeg xom ar wavidodnen.
_ am SezRudvebis dawesebas
ivaniSvilis Zilis reJimTanac
xom ar aqvs rame saerTo?
„qarTuli ocnebis” lideri xom
22 saaTze iZinebs da diliT 6
saaTze dgeba.
_ namdvilad ar gamikvirdeba,
Tu specialurad SearCies es
dro. etyoba, ivaniSvils unda,
`es muSketerebi aqamdec kiTxvis niSnebs
badebdnen, magram 8 noembers cercvaZem da
amiran gamyreliZem Zalian cudi rame ikadres.
roca adamianebi wylis WavliT daarbies, Tavad
unda gamosuliyvnen da gangaSi aetexaT. roca
amaze Jurnalistebma komentari sTxoves, Tqves
rom am Temaze eqspertebad ver gamodgebian~
rom mTelma qveyanam 22 saaTze
daiZinos, rom mas mSvidi Zili
araferma daufrTxos. es SezRudvebi
misi mSvidi Zilis garanti
ufroa, vide koronasTan efeqtiani
brZolisken gadadgmuli
nabiji. raRac sisulele moigones.
kacma amaT rom daujeros
ifiqrebs, rom korona mxolod
Ramea saSiSi. korona dRisiTac
vrceldeba. gadaxedon gadaWedil
sazogadoebrv transports
da gviTxran, aris Tu ara es sa-
SiSi? muSketerebi arc amaze
iReben xmas. am Temaze yuradRebis
gamaxvileba xelisuflebis
interesebSi jer ar Sedis. es
muSketerebi aqamdec kiTxvis
niSnebs badebdnen, magram 8 noembers
cercvaZem da amiran
gamyreliZem Zalian cudi rame
ikadres. roca adamianebi wylis
WavliT daarbies, Tavad unda gamosuliyvnen
da gangaSi aetexaT.
roca amaze Jurnalistebma komentari
sTxoves, Tqves rom am
Temaze eqspertebad ver gamodgebian.
_ amxela eqimebma davijero,
ar ician, ra SeiZleba mohyves
pandemiis dros civ Rames ad-
amianebis civi wyliT darbevas?
_ Zalian kargad ician, magram
amaze saubari ar isurves. ai,
esaa qveynis tragedia da sircxvili,
am eqimebs! Tu ar ician, ra
mosdevs sxeulis gadaciebas,
maSin mTlad kargad yofila Cveni
saqme. samedicino saswavleblis
nebismieri pirvelkurseli
getyviT, rom sxeulis gadacieba
xels uwyobs respiratoruli
daavadebebis gavrcelebas. darwmunebuli
var, rom Zalian bevri
adamiani gacivda mag saRamos,
bevric koronavirusiT dainficirda.
eqimebma es araTu ar
gaaprotestes, komentaris gakeTebac
ki ar isurves. es Zalian
cudia. amis gamo cercvaZesac da
gamyreliZesac magrad SercxvebaT.
jer isini xelisuflebis
gamarTlebis reJimSi arian.
_ magas sjobda, saTanadod
momzadebuliyvnen virusTan sa-
brZolvelad.
_ gvabolebdnen, mzad varTo
da ra miviReT, jandacvis sistema
srulad aris CamoSlili.
_ xelisufleba ar aRiarebs,
rom problemebia.
_ aRiareba ra saWiroa, isedac
yvelaferi naTelia. 112 gamoZaxebaze
ar midis. saavadmyofoeb-
Si adgilebi ar aris. adamianebs
eubnebian, saxlSi darCiT da wyali
dalieTo.
imedi maqvs, rom 8-9 noembris
darbevis Sedegad bevri adamiani
ar gaxdeba avad. imis imedic
maqvs, rom maT mkurnalobaze
uars ar ityvian. iseTi situacia
Seiqmna, rom aq yvelaferi Sei-
Zleba moxdes.
_ Tqven uSualod movlenebis
epicentrSi iyaviT. am dar-
bevis gamo xalxi Tu SeSinda?
_ aravin SeSinebula. xom
mogiyeviT, mogviSvebdnen Wavls
da davsveldebodiT, mivirbendiT
koconTan, gavSrebodiT da
isev aqciaze mivrbodiT. arc xalxi
da arc liderebi ar SeSinebulan.
arada, yvela acnobierebs,
Tu ra safrTxesTan aris
sxeulis gadacieba dakavSirebuli.
qarTveli xalxis SeSineba
aseTi ioli ar aris. Cven es
araerTxel davamtkiceT da amas
ivaniSvilsac davumtkicebT.
_ xalxi aseT darbevebs ua-
resi protestiT rom pasuxobs,
viciT, magram axla koronis
faqtoria gasaTvaliswinebeli.
_ am faqtors viTvaliswinebT.
maqsimalurad vicavT distancias,
varigebT pirbadeebs.
vcdilobT, rom yvelas ekeTos
pirbade, magram roca civ wyals
gvasxamen, verafers gavxdebiT.
axla Cven ori virusis winaaRmdeg
vibrZviT: erTia kovid-19 da
meore _ biZina-41. es meore virusi
ufro saxifaToa.
_ riT aris ufro saxifaTo?
_ es virusi Tu ar davamarcxeT,
CaTvaleT, rom verc koronas
gavumklavdebiT da xalxi
SimSiliT daiRupeba. xelisuflebaSi
„ocnebis” darCena saqarTvelos
dasasruls niSnavs.
Cven es xelisufleba arCevnebiT
davasruleT, magram rusma oligarqma
arCevani mogvpara. axla
iZulebuli varT, quCis aqciebiT
davibrunoT es arCevani.
_ daibrunebT?
_ unda davibrunoT. sxvanairad
es qveyana daiRupeba. xalxis
ganwyoba da opoziciis SemarTeba
maZlevs imis Tqmis uflebas,
rom Cven arCevans davibrunebT.
oligarqsa da mis msaxurebs
ukanonoba aRar gauvaT. ivaniSvili
arc gasul wels apirebda
daTmobaze wasvlas, magram mouwia.
axlac ase iqneba. mTavari isaa,
rom ukan daxevas aravin apirebs,
ukan dasaxevi gza, ubralod,
ar aris.
_ xelisuflebis momxreebi
fiqroben, rom ukve daixieT ukan.
_ Cven ukan ar dagvixevia.
_ ukandaxevad CaiTvala is,
rom ceskosTan darbevis Semdeg
aqcia aRar gagrZelda.
_ es ukandaxeva ar yofila. es
swori gadawyvetileba iyo. Zalian
bevri provokatori Semoagzavna
xelisuflebam aqciaze.
ceskos Senoba miyruebul da
bnel adgilzea. aseT adgilze
provokaciebis mowyoba advilia.
provokaciebis Tavidan acilebis
mizniT daviSaleT. protesti
gagrZeldeba. ra SegviZlia, amas
male naxavs xelisufleba.
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