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genaneba raime?<br />
_ cxovelebisTvis ar menaneba<br />
araferi.<br />
_ ra aris yvelaze mniS-<br />
vnelovani SenTvis (saqmeSi)?<br />
_ siamovnebis miReba.<br />
_ ra aris yvelaze Rirebuli<br />
adamianSi? ras afaseb yve-<br />
laze metad?<br />
_ principebis erTgulebas,<br />
Tundac am principebs bevri<br />
mcdarad afasebdes. cxovreba<br />
ucnauri ramea, is, ris gamoc<br />
dRes ikicxebi, rodesme, Tundac,<br />
Seni sicocxlis dasrulebis<br />
Semdeg, SeiZleba saamayo<br />
magaliTad monaTlon. amitom<br />
mTavaria, gqondes Seni faseulobebis<br />
sistema da arasdros<br />
gadauxvio mas, Torem konformisti<br />
gaxdebi.<br />
_ gadawyvetileba gaqvs,<br />
romelic ginania?<br />
_ patara viyavi, ar maxsovs<br />
zustad, albaT, ase, 8-9 wlis,<br />
gubeSi bayayebs qvebs vesrodi.<br />
ratomRac, darwmunebuli viyavi,<br />
rom ar moxvdebodaT, magram<br />
erT-erTs moxvda da mokvda.<br />
dRemde maxsovs, rogor ganvicade.<br />
albaT, axla sasacilod<br />
Cans, magram, realurad, cxovrebaSi<br />
yvelaze metad maSin<br />
vinane, im wams.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebs yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ rogorc ukve vTqvi, konformizmi.<br />
mzad var, davxoco<br />
adamianebi, romlebic garkveuli<br />
miznebidan gamomdinare<br />
Sexedulebebs icvlian, principebs<br />
Ralatoben, an saerTodac<br />
ar aqvT msgavsi moraluri<br />
faseulobebi.<br />
_ risTvis ar genaneba dro?<br />
_ „beWdebis mbrZaneblisTvis”.<br />
_ Tavisufal dros ras<br />
akeTeb xolme?<br />
_ periodulad, an sezonurad<br />
vici barebis amoCemeba<br />
da iq davdivar xolme. Semdeg<br />
mudmivad vwuxvar imaze, rom<br />
qarTvelebs ase Zalian gviyvars<br />
ludi da fexburTi, magram arc<br />
erTi ar gvivarga.<br />
_ maqsimalisti xar (yvelafris<br />
umaRles donemde Ses-<br />
ruleba giyvars xolme? ginda,<br />
rom sul pirveli iyo Sens<br />
saqmeSi)? Tu xar/ar xar, raSi<br />
gamoixateba maqsimalistoba,<br />
an piriqiT?<br />
_ albaT, mainc ar var maqsimalisti,<br />
radganac sul mgonia,<br />
rom ufro meti SemiZlia, magram<br />
am ufro mets ar vTxov<br />
xolme sakuTar Tavs. SeiZleba,<br />
amas sizarmace hqvia.<br />
_ ra Janris, vis musikas us-<br />
men xolme?<br />
_ Cveni mSoblebis Taoba rasac<br />
usmenda, 70-80-iani wlebis<br />
klasikur da araklasikur<br />
roks.<br />
_ ras gaZlevs yoveli axa-<br />
li gaTenebuli dRe?<br />
_ axal SesaZleblobebs.<br />
_ raze ocnebob?<br />
_ vocnebob safexburTo komentatorobaze<br />
da „el klasikos”<br />
wayvanaze. kidev imaze, rom<br />
Cems wignze filmi gadaiRon.<br />
iqneb, rodesme romelime asruldes<br />
kidec, ara mgonia, zedmetad<br />
utopiuri ocnebebi iyos.<br />
_ Tu gyavs filmis, an wign-<br />
is gmiri, romelsac ggonia,<br />
rom hgavxar.<br />
_ ki, daTo, Cemi wignis gmiri,<br />
vgavar ki arada, me var, albaT.<br />
_ vin aris misabaZi magali-<br />
Ti SenTvis? ratom?<br />
_ vcdilob, aravis mivbaZo,<br />
radganac maTze ukeT maTi Tavis<br />
TamaSi mainc ar gamomiva.<br />
rac ar unda maRali donis msaxiobi<br />
TamaSobdes adolf hitlers,<br />
Tavad hitlerze ukeT<br />
mainc ver iTamaSebs.<br />
_ dRes ra problemas xedav<br />
im sfero(eb)Si, sadac moRvaweob<br />
da, zogadad, saqarTvelo-<br />
Si?<br />
_ fuli gviyvars, zedmetad<br />
gviyvars. aqedan modis yvela<br />
problema.<br />
_ rogor SeiZleba am prob-<br />
lemis mogvareba?<br />
_ mova dro, rodesac fuliT<br />
veRarafers viyidiT. albaT,<br />
Cven maSin cocxlebi aRar viqnebiT,<br />
magram swored maSin mogvardeba<br />
yvela msgavsi problema.<br />
_ rodis isveneb xolme da<br />
rogor?<br />
_ zafxulSi kaklis CrdilSi<br />
wamowolili. eg aris dasveneba,<br />
sxva yvelaferi dasvenebis<br />
mogonili formaa.<br />
_ vin genatreba yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ giorgi jafariZe, Cemi<br />
saukeTeso megobari, romelmac<br />
2 wlis winaT dagvtova.<br />
_ Seni azriT, Tavisufali<br />
xar?<br />
_ ara, Cven yvela Seqmnili<br />
saxelmwifo da politikuri<br />
sistemebis monebi varT, romlebsac<br />
gvgonia, rom es aris Tavisufleba.<br />
_ ra aris Tavisufleba<br />
SenTvis?<br />
_ Tavisufleba aris ufleba,<br />
akeTo yvelaferi, rac Sen mogwons<br />
da sxvas arafers uSavebs.<br />
_ cxovrebis ra etapze xar<br />
axla?<br />
_ ar vici. Tu xval movkvdi,<br />
aRmoCndeba, rom cxovrebis bolo<br />
etapze vyofilvar, Tu arada,<br />
SeiZleba, sawyisic iyos.<br />
_ sakuTari Tavi napovni<br />
gaqvs (am kiTxvis pasuxi gan-<br />
sakuTrebiT mainteresebs)?<br />
_ am kiTxvaze pasuxi arasdros<br />
meqneba. 4 wlis winaT rom<br />
eTqva vinmes, wigns dawer da<br />
leqciebs waikiTxavo, albaT,<br />
sasacilod ar meyofoda.<br />
_ raime misia gaqvs cxovre-<br />
baSi?<br />
_ ara, rogorc wesi, adamianebi<br />
misiebiT ar ibadebian,<br />
TviTon iqmnian am miznebsa da<br />
misiebs. amitomac ar gviyvars<br />
xolme xandaxan raRac misiiT<br />
movlenili adamianebi, Cvenze<br />
ukeTesebi gvgonia da jvars<br />
vacvamT yvelanairi gagebiT.<br />
_ ra aris is, risTvisac<br />
ibrZvi?<br />
_ sakuTari Tavi.<br />
_ Seni neba rom iyos, ras<br />
Secvlidi, an gamoasworebdi<br />
Sens cxovrebaSi, an qveyanaSi,<br />
zogadad?<br />
_ Cemi neba rom iqneba, magaze<br />
mere davfiqrdebi. sanam<br />
raRacis Secvla SegeZleba, manamde<br />
rom iwyeb fiqrs, es gviCens<br />
xolme adamianebs nevrozs<br />
zustad.<br />
_ ra aris cxovrebis azri<br />
SenTvis?<br />
_ am kiTxvaze rac ar unda<br />
gipasuxo, yvelaferi sisuleled<br />
gamoCndeba.<br />
_ rogor fiqrob, gaqvs Tu<br />
ara warmatebis miRwevis Sansi<br />
dRevandel saqarTveloSi?<br />
_ warmateba cudi sityvaa,<br />
maRizianebs, imitom, rom CemTvis<br />
arasaintereso rameebs arqmeven.<br />
warmatebaa kargi samsaxuri, warmatebaa<br />
didi Semosavali, warmatebaa<br />
kargi saxli, manqana,<br />
socialuri statusi. mere?!<br />
_ gaqvs iseTi principi,<br />
romelsac ar uRalateb aras-<br />
dros?<br />
_ ki, yvela principi aseTia.<br />
mTavari ki is aris, rom arasdros<br />
gaxde konformisti.<br />
_ rom ara is, vinc axla xar,<br />
vin iqnebodi?<br />
_ axla vin var, rom gavigeb,<br />
magaze pasuxic Semdeg mecodineba.<br />
_ ra aris Seni samomavlo<br />
gegma?<br />
_ ar maqvs.<br />
_ raze fiqrob xolme yve-<br />
laze xSirad?<br />
_ naxevardacvis xazze.<br />
_ visi imedi gaqvs cxovre-<br />
baSi?<br />
_ iRblis.<br />
_ ras moaqvs yvelaze didi<br />
simSvide SenTvis da rogor<br />
ggonia, sad aris xsna adami-<br />
anebisTvis?<br />
_ simSvide hqvia foTlebis<br />
Srials, xsna ki arsadaa. ai, ase<br />
poeturad Tu prozaulad gipasuxeb.<br />
_ sayvareli gamonaTqvami,<br />
rasac yvelaze xSirad iyeneb<br />
xolme.<br />
_ ratom svam kiTxvas, romelzedac<br />
pasuxi ukve ici (Sen ar<br />
mogmarTav, gamonaTqvami maqvs<br />
aseTi)?<br />
_ vin xar realurad da<br />
visTan xar namdvili Tornike?<br />
_ daorTqlil sarkesTan.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili<br />
sazogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ mainc unda davixocoT da<br />
iqneb...<br />
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