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Terapiuli daniSnuleba. xelovneba<br />
xom aucilebelia adamianis cxovrebis<br />
srulyofisTvis.<br />
kiTxvaze, Tu rogor uyurebs<br />
Tavisuflebis cnebas, ambobs, rom<br />
Tavisufleba unda modiodes<br />
Signidan, unda iyo kompleqsebis<br />
gareSe da ar mibaZo sxvas. SeiZleba,<br />
viRacis gavlena gqones, magram<br />
sakuTari me unda daitovo:<br />
„ramdenime welia vakvirdebi da<br />
mivxvdi, rom sxvebisgan ganvsxvavdebi<br />
imiT, rom var ufro metad<br />
Tavisufali, ar maqvs socialuri<br />
Tu sxva saxis kompleqsebi da rom<br />
xelovneba Zalian did Tavisuflebas<br />
aZlevs adamians. aZlevs saku-<br />
Tari Tavis gamoxatvis unars”.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom am Tavisufali<br />
axalgazrdis cxovrebaSi<br />
jer namdvili da sruli siyvaruli<br />
ar mosula, mas mainc sjera<br />
misi, ambobs, rom cxovrebis srulyofisTvis<br />
swored es grZnobaa<br />
aucilebeli da roca mas daeufleba,<br />
ukve sakuTar Tavsac bolomde<br />
ipovis.<br />
„qronika+~-ma Tea Sengelaia-<br />
sTan blicinterviuc Cawera:<br />
namdvili Tea aris _ uSualo<br />
adamiani, romelic yovelTvis<br />
eZebs pasuxebs kiTxvebze da mudmivad<br />
eZebs sakuTar Tavs. mas ar<br />
uyvars saqmis gadadeba.<br />
rom ara Tea, vqnebodi _ supergmiri,<br />
Wonder Women (qali saocreba).<br />
araferi menaneba _ sakuTari dis-<br />
Tvis da im sayvareli adamianisTvis,<br />
romelic jer ar gamoCenila.<br />
vnanob _ ukan arasdros vixev da<br />
amitomac arafers vnanob.<br />
grZnoba, romelic ar unda gax-<br />
undes, aris _ faseuli megobroba<br />
da es Taobebs unda gadayves!<br />
fraza, romelsac xSirad viy-<br />
eneb _ Do what u love, love what you do!<br />
Don’t estimate yourself!<br />
mizani, romelsac ukve mivaRwie<br />
_ Cemi da Cemi dis mizani bavSvobidan<br />
iyo is, rom gvemRera da musikas<br />
gavyolodiT. jer kidev bevri<br />
daxvewa da muSaoba sWirdeba amas,<br />
rom ufro met adamianSi CavdoT<br />
siyvaruli.<br />
Sansi rom mqondes, davibadebo-<br />
di _ 1960 wels londonSi. swored<br />
am dros ibadeboda da yalibdeboda<br />
yvelaze saintereso musikaluri<br />
kultura, romelmac Cemze<br />
didi gavlena moaxdina. saerTod ki<br />
inglisi CemTvis Zalian did da<br />
saintereso musikasTan asocirdeba.<br />
yvelaze giJuri, rac gamikeTe-<br />
bia, aris _ bevri ram, magram axla<br />
erTi maxsendeba: 17 wlis viyavi,<br />
SeyvarebulTan viCxube, maSin mar-<br />
Tvis mowmoba ar mqonda, Tumca<br />
amas xeli ar SeuSlia, rom mamaCemis<br />
manqana daukiTxavad wameyvana<br />
da Cemi Seyvarebulis saxlSi<br />
mivsuliyavi. axla Zalian sasacilod<br />
maxsendeba.<br />
spontanuri var? _ yvela saqmesa<br />
Tu urTierTobaSi profesiulis<br />
garda. iq sworad dagegmili da<br />
gansazRvruli maqvs yvelaferi.<br />
danarCen urTierTobebsa da mdgomareobaSi<br />
spontanuroba Zalian<br />
saxaliso da dasamaxsovrebelia.<br />
Cemi momavlis gegma aris _ gamovuSvaT<br />
axali videoklipi. manamde<br />
albomi gamovuSviT da axlac<br />
imaves vgegmavT, Tumca aq ufro<br />
treki Seva. ar gvyavs menejeri. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom Cveni koncepti<br />
Zalian sainteresoa, varT<br />
tyupebi, gvaqvs duo bendi, TviTon<br />
vqmniT musikas da a. S., menejerebisTvis<br />
ufro mniSvnelovani biznesis<br />
keTebaa, am mimarTulebiT<br />
vmuSaobT. viciT, rom Zalian bevrma<br />
xelovanma sakuTari qveynidan<br />
gaiTqva saxeli msoflioSi da ratom<br />
ar SeiZleba, rom gogonebma<br />
saqarTvelodan moaxerxon igive?!<br />
vfiqrob, rom es savsebiT SesaZlebelia<br />
da amaze unda vimuSaoT.<br />
minda, sazogadoebas vuTxra _<br />
mTavaraia, erTmaneTi gviyvardes,<br />
urTerTgageba da pativiscema ar<br />
movakloT erTmaneTs, ufro metad<br />
motivirebulebi viyoT da ar gveSinodes<br />
nabijis gadadgmis, ufro<br />
Tavisuflebi, ukompleqsoebi, metad<br />
laRebi da uSualoebi viyoT<br />
da yvelaferi Zalian kargad iqneba!<br />
Tea dResac dauRalavad muSaobs<br />
Tavisi miznebis srulyofisTvis.<br />
muSaobs kvlevebzec da musikazec.<br />
ar nebdeba da Tavs modunebis<br />
saSualebas ar aZlevs. albaT,<br />
aman ganapiroba is, rom maTi<br />
Semoqmedebis gacnobis Semdeg maT<br />
musikebs yoveldRe vusmen da ar<br />
mbezrdeba!<br />
me-13 gverdidan<br />
- saWiroa am situaciisTvis mzad viyoT<br />
im TvalsazrisiT, rom amas maqsimalurad<br />
winaaRmdegoba gavuwioT Cvens partniorebTan<br />
urTierTobiT.<br />
_ mTavrobaSi Tu xedavT msgavsi mzady-<br />
ofnis niSnebs?<br />
_ ver vityvi, rom es mzadyofna mkveTrad<br />
Cans. ubralod, imeds vitoveb da minda, rom<br />
aseTi mzadyofna iyos.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, obieqturobisTvis minda<br />
giTxraT, _ magaliTisTvis, 2008 wlis mais-<br />
Si mixeil saakaSvilma Tavisive mTavrobis<br />
wevrebs rogor Tavze daamxo yvelaferi,<br />
romlebic mas afxazeTze Setevas urCevdnen.<br />
maSin xom afxazeTi iyo Setevis mTavari<br />
sagani da ara cxinvalis regioni. man Tavze<br />
daamxo zustad im argumentebiT, razedac<br />
axla gesaubrebiT, rom amas SeiZleboda savalalo<br />
Sedegebi moetana. es yvelaferi 2008<br />
wlis maisSi xdeboda.<br />
samwuxarod, mere misi midgomebi Seicvala,<br />
rodesac darwmunebuli viyavi 2008 wlis<br />
maisis Semdgom TveebSi, rom saakaSvilis<br />
xelisufleba am moufiqrebel nabijs ar<br />
gadadgamda. iciT am procesis mimarT Cemi<br />
damokidebuleba, arasodes miTqvams, rom<br />
saqarTvelom daiwyo omi. me vambob, rom<br />
saakaSvilis mTavrobam konkretuli brZola<br />
daiwyo, xolo omi ruseTma daiwyo. man<br />
konkretuli brZola daiwyo, ramac sababi<br />
misca rusebs im qmedebebisTvis, rac Semdeg<br />
moxda. saerTod, mimaCnia, saakaSvilma icoda<br />
ra, rom xafangi dauges, mainc gayo Tavi<br />
am xafangSi.<br />
paraleli ratom gavavle: maSinac ar megona,<br />
rom xelisufleba aseT gauazrebel<br />
nabijze wavidoda. axlac imeds vitoveb, rom<br />
xelisufleba momzadebulia aseTi gziT<br />
movlenebis SesaZlo ganviTarebisTvis. ar<br />
maqvs xelisuflebasTan pirdapiri urTier-<br />
Toba da, aqedan gamomdinare, ver getyviT,<br />
saboloo jamSi, mzad aris Tu ara. imeds vitoveb,<br />
rom aris.<br />
_ mixeil saakaSvilis bolo xmaurian<br />
gancxadebebs rogor SeafasebT? qarTuli<br />
sabanko seqtori miwasTan gaaswora da a. S.<br />
_ Tu sabanko seqtorTan dakavSirebiT es<br />
yvelaferi realobasTan axlosaa, am seqtoris<br />
transformacia rbilad unda moxdes,<br />
raTa qveyanaSi arsebuli erT-erTi Zlieri<br />
instituti Tavze ar dagvemxos. am SemTxvevaSi<br />
CemTvis es midgoma savsebiT misaRe-<br />
N12 (233) 17.04-23.04.2018 w.<br />
mamuka areSiZe: `omi ara mxolod<br />
islamuri fundamentalizmis<br />
winaaRmdeg, aramed<br />
energomatareblebis derefnebis<br />
gamoc mimdinareobs~<br />
bia. sabanko seqtorSi yvelaferi ise rom ar<br />
aris, rogorc es Cvens qveyanas Seefereba,<br />
esec faqtia. TavisTavad, Zalian Zlieri da<br />
mniSvnelovani, gamarTuli institutia, magram<br />
es, xSir SemTxvevaSi, aris ara saxelmwifosTvis,<br />
aramed sakuTari TavisTvis.<br />
Tumca amave saxelmwifos savizito baraTad<br />
gamodgeba, _ investorebi imitom Semodian,<br />
rom ician, sabanko seqtori Ronieri<br />
da sandoa.<br />
meore mxriv, es sabanko seqtori ver<br />
uzrunvelyofs saqarTveloSi socialuri<br />
fonis gaumjobesebas. amitom am Zvrebs,<br />
romelic SeiZleba mTavrobamac gadadgas,<br />
mivesalmebi. oRond es Zvrebi orientirebuli<br />
ar unda iyos sabanko seqtoris Sesustebasa<br />
da dangrevaze. sworad orientirebaze,<br />
ki batono.<br />
_ rac Seexeba saakaSvilis gancxadebas<br />
welsve xelisuflebis mTlianad Secvlasa<br />
da qveyanaSi mis dabrunebaze?<br />
_ es ambavi realurad ar gamoiyureba,<br />
rac misi gundis wevrebmac Zalian kargad<br />
ician. saprezidento arCevnebSi gamarjvebis<br />
Sansi „nacmoZraobis” warmomadgenels,<br />
praqtikulad, ar gaaCnia.<br />
rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania, maRali<br />
albaTobiT darwmunebuli var, rom mixeil<br />
saakaSvili saprezidento arCevnebze ar Camova.<br />
iseT situaciaSi, rodesac mas Sansi ar<br />
aqvs, rom saTanado formaSi iyos, Tavs arasodes<br />
Caigdebs. formaSi imas vgulisxmob,<br />
rom mas xelebi nawilobriv mainc Tavisufali<br />
unda hqondes. saqarTveloSi Camosvlis<br />
SemTxvevaSi (sadac is Ziebis obieqtia),<br />
icis, rom sazRvarzeve daiWeren. da sazRvarze<br />
daWerili saakaSvili ukve ar aris is<br />
kaci, romelsac SeeZleba situacia marTos<br />
da is funqcia Seasrulos, romelic saku-<br />
Tar Tavs mianiWa.<br />
aseve icis, rom qarTuli sazogadoebis<br />
didi nawilisTvis is miuRebelia.<br />
_ mmarTvel koaliciaSi garkveuli dapirispirebebia,<br />
saiT midis „qarTuli oc-<br />
nebis” SigniT procesebi?<br />
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom parlamentSi<br />
„ocnebis” warmomadgenlebi am situacias<br />
fuTaven, sinamdvileSi Subi xalTaSi ar<br />
daimaleba. jer erTi, bevrni arian da meorec<br />
_ yvelas Zalian uyvars laparaki da<br />
iqidan ambavi gamodis. kargad Cans, rom seriozuli<br />
dapirispirebaa Zvelebsa da axlebs<br />
Soris da am dapirispirebas Zalian<br />
cudi Sedegi moaqvs. mimaCnia, rom biZina<br />
ivaniSvili droze unda Caerios am situaciaSi<br />
da Tan Zalian mkveTrad unda Caerios.<br />
amiT yvelas Tavisi adgili unda miuCinos.<br />
aRaraa saWiro saubari, rom biZina<br />
ivaniSvili situaciis marTvaSi ar monawileobda,<br />
radgan „ocnebis” nebismieri politikuri<br />
figura masTan aris afilirebuli.<br />
amitom vfiqrob, rom ivaniSvili TviTon<br />
unda Caebas saprezidento maraTonSi. da,<br />
saerTod, am ambavs unda miexedos, radgan<br />
es kontproduqtiuli situaciaa. dRes geopolitikuri<br />
viTarebac uaRresad mwvavea da<br />
am dros Cveni saparlamento deputaciis<br />
warmomadgenlebi erTmaneTTan qiSpoben.<br />
_ Tqven icnobT ivaniSvils, ramdenad<br />
realuria formalur ZalauflebaSi misi<br />
dabruneba?<br />
_ vicnob-meTqi cota rTuli saTqmelia,<br />
radgan 2014 wlis Semdeg ivaniSvili saer-<br />
Tod ar minaxavs. amitom es pirobiTi cnebaa,<br />
SeiZleba misi midgomebi Seicvala, magram<br />
imaze vsaubrob, Tu ra sWirdeba mdgomareobis<br />
gajansaRebas. biZina ivaniSvilis mosvliT<br />
bevrad ufro gaZlierdeba saxelisuflebo<br />
vertikali, radgan xSir SemTxvevaSi<br />
vxedavT, rom Cinovnikebs gadawyvetilebis<br />
miReba uWirT. nawils gadawyvetilebis miReba<br />
saerTod ar unda, magram aris nawili,<br />
romelsac uWirs. es imitom xdeba, rom dRevandeli<br />
xelisufleba garkveuli jgufebisgan<br />
Sedgeba. da Tu xelisufleba monoliTuri,<br />
qveynis saWiroebebze orientirebuli<br />
ar iqneba, maSin saqme ar gamova.<br />
xelisuflebis monoliTad qceva SeuZlia<br />
erT adamians da es aris biZina ivaniSvili.<br />
esec im SemTxvevaSi, Tu is xelisuflebaSi<br />
iqneba.<br />
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