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`RaribaSvilis dabruneba
18 Tebervals saqarTvelos
nene injgia
premier-ministrma giorgi gaxar-
591 71 39 98
iam mTavrobis administraciaSi
gamarTul brifingze gamoacxada,
rom Tanamdebobas tovebs da amis mizezad nika melias sak-
iTxze massa da mmarTveli gundis sxva warmomadgenlebs Soris
azrTa sxvadasxvaoba daasaxela.
giorgi gaxarias TqmiT, nika melia,
romelsac sasamarTlom patimroba
Seufarda, aris adamiani,
romelic kanonmdeblobas didad
pativs arasdros scemda da romelic
20 ivniss moqalaqeebs parlamentis
Sturmisken mouwodebda.
igi parlamentSi SeWris erT-erTi
organizatori iyo.
„magram, miuxedavad yvelafrisa,
Cemi absoluturad uryevi
poziciaa, rom erTi konkretuli
adamianis mimarT, Tundac kanonieri,
marTlmsajulebiT gansazRvruli
RonisZiebis aRsruleba,
Tu es risks uqmnis Cveni moqalaqeebis
janmrTelobas, sicocxles
an, saerTod, qveyanaSi
qmnis politikuri eskalaciis
SesaZleblobas, aris miuRebeli”,
_ ganacxada gaxariam.
mas Semdeg, rac gaxariam premieris
posti datova, ramdenime
saaTSi mmarTveli partiis Tavmjdomare
irakli kobaxiZem premierministrobis
kandidatad irakli
RaribaSvili waradgina.
RaribaSvili premiris postze
brundeba. is ukve erTxel ikavebda
am Tanamdebobas da ukiduresi
sixistiTa da konfrontaciulobiT
dagvamaxsovra Tavi. wlebia,
RaribaSvili mTavar opoziciur
partias „radarebidan gaqrobiT”
emuqreba da metic: igi acxadebda,
rom „nacionaluri moZraoba”
saerTod unda gauqmebuliyo.
saxelmwifoebrivad
ra
datvirTva hqonda gaxarias mou-
lodnel gadawyvetilebas? ras
niSnavs RaribaSvilis dabruneba
premieris postze? ra mocemulo-
bis winaSe dgas opozicia?
aRniSnuli Temebis Sesaxeb
„qronika+~ politolog gia xux-
aSvils esaubra:
_ bolo periodSi xSirad gves-
moda, rom gaxaria Tanamdebobas
tovebda. man am nabijis gadasa-
dgmelad politikurad yvelaze
Sesaferisi dro moZebna. ra mo-
tivi dainaxeT mis am qmedebaSi?
_ motivebi da, maT Soris, pragmatuli
gaTvlebi SeiZleba bevri
iyos. ar vfiqrob, rom Cven axla
amaze unda visaubroT. saerTod,
politika ar aris is sfero, sadac
unda gvqondes imis gancda, rom
politikosebi angelozebiviT mxolod
moralur gadawyvetilebebs
miiReben. SesaZloa, gaxarias
am gadawyvetilebaSi bevri mizezi
iyos, maT Soris, racionaluri komponentic,
magram mTavaria is,
rom es iyo qarTuli saxelmwifos
saxeliT swori gadawyvetileba,
raTa daezRvia qveyana Zalian seriozuli
eskalaciisgan da man es
gaakeTa swori aqcentebiT. sxvaTa
Soris, arc zurab Jvania iyo angelozi,
isic politikosi gaxldaT
da qarTul sazogadoebas mas-
Tanac bevri pretenzia hqonda, magram
saWiro momentSi man analogiuri
nabiji gadadga da aCvena ma-
Rali politikuri klasi. igive
gaakeTa dRes gaxariam. maRali
politikuri klasi ki niSnavs imas,
rom es aris politikosis imgvari
qmedeba, rasac dramatul ganvi-
TarebaSi garkveuli pozitiuri
koreqtivebi Seaqvs, rac am SemTxvevaSi
ganxorcielda. SeiZleba,
bevri visaubroT imaze, rom gaxariam
am nabijiT Tavi gadairCina,
magram ar mgonia, amaze saubari da
amiT misi am qmedebis daknineba
swori iyos. opoziciamac unda
daafasos misi es qmedeba. es ar ni-
Snavs, rom Tu rame kiTxvebi gvaqvs
masTan, aRar unda davsvaT da
yvelaferi unda CamovweroT, magram
opoziciam es nabiji unda
daafasos. rom ara gaxarias es
gadawyvetileba, dRes qveyana Sei-
Zleba, absoluturad sxva realobaSi
yofiliyo. Cven vxedavdiT
rogorc viTardeboda movlenebi,
gaxarias gadadgomam ki SeaCera
movlenebis SesaZlo Zalian dramatuli
ganviTareba. cxeli Tavebi
cotaTi mainc gaagrila da
qveyanam miiRo pauza, roca Sansi
gvaqvs, davfiqrdeT da ufskrul-
Si ar gadaviCexoT. ase rom, gaxarias
am konkretul qmedebas mxolod
pozitiurad Sevxedavdi da
mis am nabijs Sevafaseb, rogorc
Zalian iSviaT, maRali klasis
politikur qmedebad.
_ gaxariam Tanamdebobidan
gadadgomis mizezad nika melias
dapatimrebis sakiTxi daasaxela
da ganacxada, rom massa da
mmarTveli gundis sxva warmomad-
genlebs Soris am Temaze azrTa
sxvadasxvaoba iyo. premierma misi
am gancxadebiT aRiara, rom
politikuri marTlmsajulebaa?
_ ra Tqma unda, es Zalian mniSvnelovania,
Tumca isedac viciT,
rom CvenTan politikuri marTlmsajulebaa,
rom, samwuxarod, adamianebis
dapatimrebasa da maT
politikur devnaSi marTlmsajuleba,
rogorc instrumenti, ise
gamoiyeneba. premierma es aqcentebi
daayena. es is Temaa, romelic
CvenTvis isedac cnobilia, magram
premier-ministris piriT naTqvami
Zalian sayuradReboa, maT Soris,
urwmuno TomebisTvis Cvens ucxoel
partniorebSi, rom raRac
arajansaRi xdeba qveyanaSi. ase
rom, misi es nabiji amitom aris
Zalian mniSvnelovani momavali
ganviTarebisTvis.
_ „qronika+~-sTan „kar-
tografebis saqmeze” saubrisas
aRniSneT, rom giorgi gaxariam
swori pozicia daikava da aseve
ganacxadeT, rom mmarTvel gund-
Si raRac jgufi rusul TamaSs
TamaSobda. axla, roca gaxaria
gadadga da premierobis kandi-
datad irakli RaribaSvili
dasaxelda, xom ar fiqrobT, rom
swored im jgufis, romelic
ruseTis interesebis sasargeblod
moqmedebda, mTavari war-
momadgeneli brundeba premieris
xmamaRla apelirebs imaze, rom vi-
Racam qarTuli miwa gayida, konteqstSi
TavisTavad moiazreba,
rom viRacam iyida, anu ukanonod
SeiZina. faqtobrivad, es aris iribi
braldeba azerbaijanis misamar-
TiT, rom maT viRacas gadauxades
raRaca da ukanonod iyides qarTuli
miwebi, rac strategiuli
partniorisa da, SeiZleba iTqvas,
regionSi Cveni mTavari megobris
misamarTiT Zalian mZime braldebaa.
Cven azerbaijanTan erTad
gvaqvs erTini geopolitikuri, satranzito
funqcia, azerbaijanis
gareSe, ubralod, funqcias vkargavT.
rodesac isteriuli toniT
aseTi ritorika iwyeba, miuxedavad
imisa, xelisufleba TanamSromlobs
Tu ara ruseTTan, bunebrivia,
es Sedis ruseTis interesSi.
amas akeTeben sibriyviT, Segnebulad
Tu Seugneblad, ra mniSvneloba
aqvs? _ Sedegi erTia. roca xelisuflebaSi
xar, sibriyve aranaklebi
danaSaulia, vidre Segnebuli
angaJireba mtris mxridan. ra
mniSvneloba aqvs, sibriyviT daazianeb
saxelmwifo interess Tu
Segnebulad? _ Sedegi erTi da igivea.
Cven vxedavT socialur
qselebsa da sxvadasxva jgufSi
maSin rogori narativi iqmneboda,
rom azerbaijani aris okupanti,
anu nel-nela xdeboda „ruseTi
okupantias” gzavnilis Canacvleba
„azerbaijani okupantiaTi”. aseve
ismoda mowodebebi, rom „sokar-
Si” sawvavi ar CavasxaT da a. S.
Zalian seriozulad muSaobdnen
amaze. amis paralelurad ki ambobdnen:
„naxeT, ra kargia erTmorwmune
ruseTi, rukebi mogvca
imis dasadastureblad, rom gareji
Cvenia”. anu ruseTi kargia da
azerbaijani cudia, _ es narativi
gasdevda laitmotivad mTel am
istorias. Tu rame gamosaZiebelia,
unda gamoiZion, magram ratom iyeneben
amas propagandad? am propagandis
Sedegi aris is, razedac
visaubreT. Sesabamisad, Segnebulad
gaatarebs vinme ruseTis interesebs
saqarTveloSi Tu sibriyviT
gaakeTebs amas, CemTvis mniSvneloba
aRar aqvs, radgan orive
SemTxvevaSi es aris danaSauli!
_ Tqven razedac axla isaubgia
xuxaSvili:
`eseni axla arian
Cveni pacientebi,
romlebsac
SeuZliaT oTaxSi
yvelafris dalewva
da amis saSualeba
ar unda mivceT~
postze?
_ saTqmels cota ufro Sevarbileb:
„rusul TamaSs Tama-
Sobs da ruseTis agentebi arian”,
_ am terminologiiT ar msurs
saubari, magram faqtia, rom arsebobs
es jgufi, romlis nabijebic
xSirad, garkveulwilad, xels uwyobs
rusuli narativis Semotanas
Cvens cxovrebaSi da, Sesabamisad,
sasargebloa ruseTisTvis. es keTdeba
ruseTTan SeTanxmebiT Tu
Sinagani ganwyobiTa da monaTesave
grZnobiT _ sxva sakiTxia. igive
gavrilovze, miuxedavad imisa,
„qarTuli ocneba” gavrilovTan
TanamSromlobs Tu ara, urTier-
Toba aqvs/ar aqvs, gabutulia Tu
gabrazebulia masze, vxedavT, rom
melias mimarT „qarTuli ocnebisa”
da gavrilovis ritorika erTi
erTze emTxveva erTmaneTs. Sesabamisad,
Cven Tu aviRebT universalur
princips, „Cemi mtris
mteri Cemi megobaria”, SeiZleba
gavrilovi da „qarTuli ocneba”
ar megobroben da erTmaneTSi ar
ixilaven sakiTxebs, magram maT
radgan saerTo mteri hyavT melias
saxiT, rac TavisTavad sasaciloa,
Sesabamisad, isini bunebrivi
mokavSireebi gamodian. igivea,
rodesac garejis Temaze vsaubrobT.
samarTlebriv nawilSi ar
Seval, gamoZieba mimdinareobs da
Tu ramea gamosaZiebeli, gamoiZion.
arc imis momxre var, rom
iveri melaSvili gmirad Seracxon,
magram arc imaze var Tanaxma,
rom moRalated gamoacxadon.
vfiqrob, orive es ganwyoba politikuria
da aranairi kavSiri ar
aqvs realobasTan. is Cveulebrivi
adamiania, romelic Tavis movaleobas
asrulebda. mTavari Tema arc
gaxlavT es, vin aris iveri melaSvili.
am SemTxvevaSi mTavaria is,
rom rodesac xelisufleba ase
`e. i. mas ar hyavs aravin da atrialebs am
RaribaSvilsa da viRacebs. kontrolis
TvalsazrisiT, biZina ivaniSvili ar wasula. is
marTvas CamoSorda. me ar mgonia, rom is
qveyanas marTavs, magram is akontrolebs
xelisuflebas. strategiuli, msxvili
gadawyvetilebebi miiReba misi kontrolis qveS.
dRes Seiqmna mocemuloba, rodesac
magarbiWobanas moTamaSeebma qarTul
saxelmwifoebriobasTan brZolaSi gaimarjves,
anu mTavari gaxda `yvelas moverioT, xelebi
gadavugrixoT, daviWiroT~, - am sagiJeTSi
arian SigniT~
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