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`RaribaSvilis dabruneba

18 Tebervals saqarTvelos

nene injgia

premier-ministrma giorgi gaxar-

591 71 39 98

iam mTavrobis administraciaSi

gamarTul brifingze gamoacxada,

rom Tanamdebobas tovebs da amis mizezad nika melias sak-

iTxze massa da mmarTveli gundis sxva warmomadgenlebs Soris

azrTa sxvadasxvaoba daasaxela.

giorgi gaxarias TqmiT, nika melia,

romelsac sasamarTlom patimroba

Seufarda, aris adamiani,

romelic kanonmdeblobas didad

pativs arasdros scemda da romelic

20 ivniss moqalaqeebs parlamentis

Sturmisken mouwodebda.

igi parlamentSi SeWris erT-erTi

organizatori iyo.

„magram, miuxedavad yvelafrisa,

Cemi absoluturad uryevi

poziciaa, rom erTi konkretuli

adamianis mimarT, Tundac kanonieri,

marTlmsajulebiT gansazRvruli

RonisZiebis aRsruleba,

Tu es risks uqmnis Cveni moqalaqeebis

janmrTelobas, sicocxles

an, saerTod, qveyanaSi

qmnis politikuri eskalaciis

SesaZleblobas, aris miuRebeli”,

_ ganacxada gaxariam.

mas Semdeg, rac gaxariam premieris

posti datova, ramdenime

saaTSi mmarTveli partiis Tavmjdomare

irakli kobaxiZem premierministrobis

kandidatad irakli

RaribaSvili waradgina.

RaribaSvili premiris postze

brundeba. is ukve erTxel ikavebda

am Tanamdebobas da ukiduresi

sixistiTa da konfrontaciulobiT

dagvamaxsovra Tavi. wlebia,

RaribaSvili mTavar opoziciur

partias „radarebidan gaqrobiT”

emuqreba da metic: igi acxadebda,

rom „nacionaluri moZraoba”

saerTod unda gauqmebuliyo.

saxelmwifoebrivad

ra

datvirTva hqonda gaxarias mou-

lodnel gadawyvetilebas? ras

niSnavs RaribaSvilis dabruneba

premieris postze? ra mocemulo-

bis winaSe dgas opozicia?

aRniSnuli Temebis Sesaxeb

„qronika+~ politolog gia xux-

aSvils esaubra:

_ bolo periodSi xSirad gves-

moda, rom gaxaria Tanamdebobas

tovebda. man am nabijis gadasa-

dgmelad politikurad yvelaze

Sesaferisi dro moZebna. ra mo-

tivi dainaxeT mis am qmedebaSi?

_ motivebi da, maT Soris, pragmatuli

gaTvlebi SeiZleba bevri

iyos. ar vfiqrob, rom Cven axla

amaze unda visaubroT. saerTod,

politika ar aris is sfero, sadac

unda gvqondes imis gancda, rom

politikosebi angelozebiviT mxolod

moralur gadawyvetilebebs

miiReben. SesaZloa, gaxarias

am gadawyvetilebaSi bevri mizezi

iyos, maT Soris, racionaluri komponentic,

magram mTavaria is,

rom es iyo qarTuli saxelmwifos

saxeliT swori gadawyvetileba,

raTa daezRvia qveyana Zalian seriozuli

eskalaciisgan da man es

gaakeTa swori aqcentebiT. sxvaTa

Soris, arc zurab Jvania iyo angelozi,

isic politikosi gaxldaT

da qarTul sazogadoebas mas-

Tanac bevri pretenzia hqonda, magram

saWiro momentSi man analogiuri

nabiji gadadga da aCvena ma-

Rali politikuri klasi. igive

gaakeTa dRes gaxariam. maRali

politikuri klasi ki niSnavs imas,

rom es aris politikosis imgvari

qmedeba, rasac dramatul ganvi-

TarebaSi garkveuli pozitiuri

koreqtivebi Seaqvs, rac am SemTxvevaSi

ganxorcielda. SeiZleba,

bevri visaubroT imaze, rom gaxariam

am nabijiT Tavi gadairCina,

magram ar mgonia, amaze saubari da

amiT misi am qmedebis daknineba

swori iyos. opoziciamac unda

daafasos misi es qmedeba. es ar ni-

Snavs, rom Tu rame kiTxvebi gvaqvs

masTan, aRar unda davsvaT da

yvelaferi unda CamovweroT, magram

opoziciam es nabiji unda

daafasos. rom ara gaxarias es

gadawyvetileba, dRes qveyana Sei-

Zleba, absoluturad sxva realobaSi

yofiliyo. Cven vxedavdiT

rogorc viTardeboda movlenebi,

gaxarias gadadgomam ki SeaCera

movlenebis SesaZlo Zalian dramatuli

ganviTareba. cxeli Tavebi

cotaTi mainc gaagrila da

qveyanam miiRo pauza, roca Sansi

gvaqvs, davfiqrdeT da ufskrul-

Si ar gadaviCexoT. ase rom, gaxarias

am konkretul qmedebas mxolod

pozitiurad Sevxedavdi da

mis am nabijs Sevafaseb, rogorc

Zalian iSviaT, maRali klasis

politikur qmedebad.

_ gaxariam Tanamdebobidan

gadadgomis mizezad nika melias

dapatimrebis sakiTxi daasaxela

da ganacxada, rom massa da

mmarTveli gundis sxva warmomad-

genlebs Soris am Temaze azrTa

sxvadasxvaoba iyo. premierma misi

am gancxadebiT aRiara, rom

politikuri marTlmsajulebaa?

_ ra Tqma unda, es Zalian mniSvnelovania,

Tumca isedac viciT,

rom CvenTan politikuri marTlmsajulebaa,

rom, samwuxarod, adamianebis

dapatimrebasa da maT

politikur devnaSi marTlmsajuleba,

rogorc instrumenti, ise

gamoiyeneba. premierma es aqcentebi

daayena. es is Temaa, romelic

CvenTvis isedac cnobilia, magram

premier-ministris piriT naTqvami

Zalian sayuradReboa, maT Soris,

urwmuno TomebisTvis Cvens ucxoel

partniorebSi, rom raRac

arajansaRi xdeba qveyanaSi. ase

rom, misi es nabiji amitom aris

Zalian mniSvnelovani momavali

ganviTarebisTvis.

_ „qronika+~-sTan „kar-

tografebis saqmeze” saubrisas

aRniSneT, rom giorgi gaxariam

swori pozicia daikava da aseve

ganacxadeT, rom mmarTvel gund-

Si raRac jgufi rusul TamaSs

TamaSobda. axla, roca gaxaria

gadadga da premierobis kandi-

datad irakli RaribaSvili

dasaxelda, xom ar fiqrobT, rom

swored im jgufis, romelic

ruseTis interesebis sasargeblod

moqmedebda, mTavari war-

momadgeneli brundeba premieris

xmamaRla apelirebs imaze, rom vi-

Racam qarTuli miwa gayida, konteqstSi

TavisTavad moiazreba,

rom viRacam iyida, anu ukanonod

SeiZina. faqtobrivad, es aris iribi

braldeba azerbaijanis misamar-

TiT, rom maT viRacas gadauxades

raRaca da ukanonod iyides qarTuli

miwebi, rac strategiuli

partniorisa da, SeiZleba iTqvas,

regionSi Cveni mTavari megobris

misamarTiT Zalian mZime braldebaa.

Cven azerbaijanTan erTad

gvaqvs erTini geopolitikuri, satranzito

funqcia, azerbaijanis

gareSe, ubralod, funqcias vkargavT.

rodesac isteriuli toniT

aseTi ritorika iwyeba, miuxedavad

imisa, xelisufleba TanamSromlobs

Tu ara ruseTTan, bunebrivia,

es Sedis ruseTis interesSi.

amas akeTeben sibriyviT, Segnebulad

Tu Seugneblad, ra mniSvneloba

aqvs? _ Sedegi erTia. roca xelisuflebaSi

xar, sibriyve aranaklebi

danaSaulia, vidre Segnebuli

angaJireba mtris mxridan. ra

mniSvneloba aqvs, sibriyviT daazianeb

saxelmwifo interess Tu

Segnebulad? _ Sedegi erTi da igivea.

Cven vxedavT socialur

qselebsa da sxvadasxva jgufSi

maSin rogori narativi iqmneboda,

rom azerbaijani aris okupanti,

anu nel-nela xdeboda „ruseTi

okupantias” gzavnilis Canacvleba

„azerbaijani okupantiaTi”. aseve

ismoda mowodebebi, rom „sokar-

Si” sawvavi ar CavasxaT da a. S.

Zalian seriozulad muSaobdnen

amaze. amis paralelurad ki ambobdnen:

„naxeT, ra kargia erTmorwmune

ruseTi, rukebi mogvca

imis dasadastureblad, rom gareji

Cvenia”. anu ruseTi kargia da

azerbaijani cudia, _ es narativi

gasdevda laitmotivad mTel am

istorias. Tu rame gamosaZiebelia,

unda gamoiZion, magram ratom iyeneben

amas propagandad? am propagandis

Sedegi aris is, razedac

visaubreT. Sesabamisad, Segnebulad

gaatarebs vinme ruseTis interesebs

saqarTveloSi Tu sibriyviT

gaakeTebs amas, CemTvis mniSvneloba

aRar aqvs, radgan orive

SemTxvevaSi es aris danaSauli!

_ Tqven razedac axla isaubgia

xuxaSvili:

`eseni axla arian

Cveni pacientebi,

romlebsac

SeuZliaT oTaxSi

yvelafris dalewva

da amis saSualeba

ar unda mivceT~

postze?

_ saTqmels cota ufro Sevarbileb:

„rusul TamaSs Tama-

Sobs da ruseTis agentebi arian”,

_ am terminologiiT ar msurs

saubari, magram faqtia, rom arsebobs

es jgufi, romlis nabijebic

xSirad, garkveulwilad, xels uwyobs

rusuli narativis Semotanas

Cvens cxovrebaSi da, Sesabamisad,

sasargebloa ruseTisTvis. es keTdeba

ruseTTan SeTanxmebiT Tu

Sinagani ganwyobiTa da monaTesave

grZnobiT _ sxva sakiTxia. igive

gavrilovze, miuxedavad imisa,

„qarTuli ocneba” gavrilovTan

TanamSromlobs Tu ara, urTier-

Toba aqvs/ar aqvs, gabutulia Tu

gabrazebulia masze, vxedavT, rom

melias mimarT „qarTuli ocnebisa”

da gavrilovis ritorika erTi

erTze emTxveva erTmaneTs. Sesabamisad,

Cven Tu aviRebT universalur

princips, „Cemi mtris

mteri Cemi megobaria”, SeiZleba

gavrilovi da „qarTuli ocneba”

ar megobroben da erTmaneTSi ar

ixilaven sakiTxebs, magram maT

radgan saerTo mteri hyavT melias

saxiT, rac TavisTavad sasaciloa,

Sesabamisad, isini bunebrivi

mokavSireebi gamodian. igivea,

rodesac garejis Temaze vsaubrobT.

samarTlebriv nawilSi ar

Seval, gamoZieba mimdinareobs da

Tu ramea gamosaZiebeli, gamoiZion.

arc imis momxre var, rom

iveri melaSvili gmirad Seracxon,

magram arc imaze var Tanaxma,

rom moRalated gamoacxadon.

vfiqrob, orive es ganwyoba politikuria

da aranairi kavSiri ar

aqvs realobasTan. is Cveulebrivi

adamiania, romelic Tavis movaleobas

asrulebda. mTavari Tema arc

gaxlavT es, vin aris iveri melaSvili.

am SemTxvevaSi mTavaria is,

rom rodesac xelisufleba ase

`e. i. mas ar hyavs aravin da atrialebs am

RaribaSvilsa da viRacebs. kontrolis

TvalsazrisiT, biZina ivaniSvili ar wasula. is

marTvas CamoSorda. me ar mgonia, rom is

qveyanas marTavs, magram is akontrolebs

xelisuflebas. strategiuli, msxvili

gadawyvetilebebi miiReba misi kontrolis qveS.

dRes Seiqmna mocemuloba, rodesac

magarbiWobanas moTamaSeebma qarTul

saxelmwifoebriobasTan brZolaSi gaimarjves,

anu mTavari gaxda `yvelas moverioT, xelebi

gadavugrixoT, daviWiroT~, - am sagiJeTSi

arian SigniT~

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