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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`RaribaSvilis gapremiereba represiulisamTavrobo wyaroebidan naTe-giorgi abaSiZeli xdeba, rom „ocnebaSi” panikaa_ isedac aWril situacias gior-gi gaxarias moulodnelma gadadgomam bolo mouRo. Sesabamis-ad, ivaniSvilis gundi, romelsac oligarqi TiTqos gaemijna,axla iseT mdgomareobaSia, wyalwaRebuli xavss rom eWidebaxolme. am SemTxvevaSi „ocnebis” xavsi irakli RaribaSvilia, anurigiT „meocnebeebs” hgoniaT, rom RaribaSvili CasaZirad gan-wirul partias napiramde mSvidobianad gaiyvans, magram Sidaklanuri omi iseT fazaSi Sedis, rom „ocnebas” RaribaSvili kiara, TviT politikis qurumebic veRar gadaarCenen!amasobaSi, isic ar undadagvaviwydes, rom dasavleTmammarTveli partiis mimarT tonigaamkacra, anu Tu gayalbebuli31 oqtombris arCevnebis Semdegfasilitatori elCebi opoziciaserTgvar „naJims” ukeTebdnen, gindaTu ara, boikotze uari Tqvida parlamentSi Sedio, axla yvelaferisxvanairadaa _ msofliosgavleniani moTamaSeebi xelisuflebasmouwodeben, rom evroatlantikurRirebulebebs pativisces da viTarebis eskalaciasxeli ar Seuwyos.erTi sityviT, qarTuli politikisjokeri axla opoziciasaqvs. am mosazrebas iziarebserovnuli moZraobis ZirZveliwarmomadgeneli, „ilia WavWavaZissazogadoebis” lideri, TamarCxeiZec.Cveni respondenti bolodroindelimovlenebis Sefasebisasambobs, rom „ocnebis” yvelawevris ukan erTi adamiani dgas daigi _ arc meti, arc naklebi _biZina ivaniSvilia.ise, kargad Tu davakvirdebiT,gaxarias gadadgomam da premieradRaribaSvilis dasaxelebam,marTlac, naTelyo, romivaniSvilis politikidan meoredwasvla Cveulebrivi triuki iyoda meti araferi.„RaribaSvilis gapremierebareaqciul-represiuli politikisgagrZelebis udavo survilsgamoxatavs. am survilis realizaciasSeiZleba, xeli SeuSalosmxolod adekvaturma saer-TaSoriso zewolam da sazogadoebisprotestma.ise, bevrs egona, rom ivaniSvilimarTla wavida. me ki vfiqrob,gamoCnda, vin marTavs qveyanas....melias daWeris gadadebasTandakavSirebiT rac moxda, udidesimniSvnelobisaa, magram gadadebaxom ar niSnavs Sesaferisi momentisdadgomamde gadadebas daroca xalxis simravle aRar iqneba,operaciis mere ganxorcielebas?gaxariamac xom es Tqva, mx-olod maSino, magram imedia, esxelisuflebis realuri marcx-ia”, _ acxadebs Tamar CxeiZe._ qalbatono Tamar, vidregiorgi gaxarias gadadgomasa dairakli RaribaSvilis „meored-mosvlaze” visaubrebT, aseTkiTxvas dagisvamT: nika meliassaqmis gacocxlebisTanave op-oziciam saubari axal erovnulmoZraobaze daiwyo. Tqven, ro-gorc erovnuli moZraobis ZirZ-veli warmomadgeneli, ras fiqrobT,Zveli da axali erovnu-li moZraoba erTmaneTs ramiTTu hgavs? anu damoukidebelsaxelmwifoSi dRis wesrigSierovnuli moZraobis dawyebisaucilebloba ratom dadga?_ marTalia, dRes saqarTvelode iured damoukidebelia, magrammaSindel da axlandel erovnulmoZraobas Soris is paralelia,rom TiTqmis igive problemebsigive imperia gviqmnis, anu saSualebasar gvaZlevs, rom Cvenidamoukidebloba realuri iyos._ damisabuTeT, mowinaaRmde-ge igive Zala, e. i., ruseTiratomaa? sxvaTa Soris, marTl-morwmune „qocebis” logikiT,nika melia damnaSavea, yovelSemTxvevaSi, igi kanons ar emor-Cileba, amitom unda daisajos daaq ruseTi ra SuaSiao? metic: giavolskim isic Tqva, gavrilovisTema ubadrukiao..._ es volskisgan bunebrivipoziciaa da arc SeiZleba, romgavrilovis Tema man sxvanairadaRiqvas._ ratom ar SeiZleba?_ volski Tavadaa im Zaliswarmomadgeneli, romelzedacvsaubrobT!_ mokled, ssrk-s drosgasagebia, magram kremli axlaratom gvebrZvis?_ mizezi igivea _ ruseTs arsurs da, baltiispireTisgan gansxvavebiT,saqarTvelos dakargvasjer kidev ver Seguebia. ise,Tu Sansi miecema, cxadia, baltiispireTisdabrunebasac Seecdeba,Tumca amisTvis dRes veribrZvis. aseve ver ibrZvis aRmosavleTqveynebis dasabruneblad.saqarTveloSi ki Tavisi realuriZalauflebis SenarCuneba ufrometad „gauvida”. amitomac Tavisaraoficialur sazRvrebSisaqarTvelos SenarCunebas cdilobs.icis, rom dRes es SeuZlebelia,magram cdilobs, aq Tavisigavlena ar dakargos._ gasagebia, rom „ocneba”rusul narativebs atarebs, magram2012-mde, 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi,am qveynis saTaveSi pro-dasavluri xelisufleba iyo.„nacionalurmamoZraobam”rusuli gavlenebis aRmofxvraratom ver SeZlo?_ jer erTi, es ambavi ase martivadar xdeba. meorec, im azrisganSors var, rom TavidanruseTs imis erTgvari garantiaar hqonda, ai, Cems gavlenebs „nacionalebis”drosac Sevinar-Cunebo. saerTod, iciT, ra xdeba?Tamar CxeiZe:`kobaxiZeZalian borotirobotia!~_ ra?_ 2012 wlamde saqarTveloSixelisuflebebi ruseTisa dadasavleTis erTgvari konsensusissafuZvelze icvlebodaxolme da, bunebrivia, sxva SemTxvevaSiromelime Zala xelisuflebaSiver movidoda. mokled,ruseTs „nacionalebis” drosac,albaT, Seuqmnes imis iluzia, romyvelaferi Zveleburad iqneboda,magram mere movlenebi sxvanairadganviTarda: „nacionalurmamoZraobam” da, kerZod, saakaSvilma,ruseTis qveSevrdomoba armoindoma da damoukidebelipolitikis warmoebas, aseve qveynisTanamedrove ganviTarebisrelsebze gadayvanas Seecada.swored amis gamo ruseTmasaakaSvilis xelisuflebidanCamoSorebis specoperaciis ganxorcielebadaiwyo._ Tuki saqarTveloSi xelisuflebebiruseTisa da dasavle-Tis konsensusis safuZvelzeicvlebodnen, es mocemuloba2012 wels ratomRa dairRva?_ ar vici, 2012 wels dasavleTsra pozicia hqonda, magramise Cans, rom xelisuflebis SecvlissawinaaRmdegod ar Careula,anu SesaZloa, dasavleTmac miiCnia,rom saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis„ocnebiT” Secvla cudsarafers moitanda._ anu dasavleTi maSin ivaniS-vils uWerda mxars?_ ar mgonia, rom ivaniSvilisxelisuflebaSi mosvla dasavle-Tis gadawyvetileba iyo. es ufroruseTis gadawyvetileba gaxl-`asea Tu ise, ivaniSvili marTvis realurberketebs mainc flobs da mxolod kobaxiZeski ara, danarCensac marTavs! ase rom ar iyos,aba, riT xsniT, rom gaxariam ver SeZlo,Tavisi gaetana? is premier-ministri iyo daTanamdebobrivad sruli ufleba hqonda,gundis wevrebTan SeuTanxmeblad gadaewyvita,Zaladobrivi aqcia unda ganxorcielebuliyoTu ara, magram es ver SeZlo da arCia,pasuxismgebloba, romelic TvalebisdaTxrasTan erTad daawveboda, aecilebina!~daT, Tumca faqtia, rom amis gamoarc dasavleTs gaugiJebia Tavi!_ ise, bolo wuTamde e. w.fasilitatori elCebi opozi-cias parlamentSi Sesvliskenmouwodebdnen da iseTi STabeWdilebaiqmneboda, rom diplomatiurikorpusi TiTqos „ocneb-is” wisqvilze asxamda wyals. amasriT xsniT, qalbatono Tamar?_ imiT, rom dRevandeli xelisuflebadasavleTisTvismaincdamainc misaRebi ar iyo._ amas ris safuZvelze am-bobT?_ es arCevnebamde periodSiZalian kargad gamoikveTa _ albaT,gaxsovT, arCevnebamde ramdenimeTviT adre rogori gancxadebebickeTdeboda, Tumca merees toni SedarebiT Seicvala._ ratom?_ dasavleTma, rogorc Cans,wina planze stabilurobis faqtoridaayena, anu „qocebis” xelisuflebammisi darwmuneba Se-Zlo, Cveni varianti sjobso._ ras gulisxmobT?_ ai, stabiluroba ariso.mokled, faqtia, rom dasavleTsdestabilizaciis SeeSinda,Tumca isic faqtia, rom opoziciaspirdapir mxardaWeras vergamoucxadebda...calkeul gamonaklisebs Tu ar8 N2 (334) 22.02-28.02.2021 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.compolitikis gagrZelebis survilia!~CavTvliT, opoziciam boikotis,rogorc Zalian seriozuli iaraRis,gamoyeneba SeZlo _ parlamentSiar Sevida da raki es moxda,dasavleTis poziciac gardauvladSeicvleba. sxvaTa Soris,amis niSnebi ukve aris.saerTod, dasavleTis faqtorsdidi mniSvneloba aqvs, magrames faqtoric, met-naklebad,qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebzeadamokidebuli, anu winaaRmdegobaramdenad adekvaturia._ gaxarias gadadgomis Semdeg,Tqveni azriT, politikuri jok-eri vis xelSia _ „ocnebis” Tuopoziciis?_ jer vityvi, rom xelisuflebamTlianad damarcxebulia,Tumca aqeTken Zalian seriozulinabiji gadaidga. amitom Zal-Ta wonasworobas, romelicopoziciis mxaresaa gadaxrili,SenarCuneba unda._ qalbatono Tamar, didipolitikuri gamocdileba gaqvTda imis ar geSiniaT, rom dResqveyanaSi yvelaze mTavari poli-tikuri figura irakli kobaxiZea_ marTalia, igi premierobis kan-didatad ar dasaxelda, magrammmarTvel partias udgas saTave-Si..._ ar mgonia, rom irakli kobaxiZerealuri mTavari piri iyos._ aba, mTavari piri vinaa?_ mgonia, rom mTavari pirimainc ivaniSvilia, kobaxiZe ki,ubralod, Savi saqmeebis gasakeTebladhyavs gamoSvebuli._ neba momeciT, ar dageTanx-moT da ai, ratom: erTi versiiT,ivaniSvilis mTavari mizanisaakaSvilis politikidan gayvanaiyo, rac nawilobriv Ses-rulebulia _ dRes yvelaze, asevTqvaT, moTxovnadi opozi-cioneri nika meliaa..._ ki batono..._ amasTan, ar dagaviwydeT,rom ivaniSvilma politikidanwasvlis Sesaxeb ramdenime kviriswin sajarod ganacxada._ asea..._ sxvaTa Soris, giorgi gax-ariam Tanamdeboba ise datova,rom ar uTqvams, gundis wevradvrCebio._ diax, ar uTqvams..._ mokled, is, rac xdeba, iqneb,ivaniSvilis scenari araa da yve-laferi kobaxiZem dagegma?_ is, rac mediiT vrceldeba,vici, magram, simarTle giTxraT,sakmarisi informacia ar maqvs,rom darwmunebuli viyo, ivaniSvilipolitikidan wasulia!vfiqrob, ivaniSvili CrdilSiufro metad gadavida, vidreaqamde iyo, Tumca Seqmnili situaciidangamomdinare, es CrdilSigadasvla mTlianad blefi araa._ anu?_ ivaniSvili mTlianad wasasvleladufro xelsayrel poziciaSidadga, anu Tu movlenebimisTvis da ruseTisTvis araxelsayreladganviTarda, maSinmTlianad wava da iqidan wasvla,sadac axlaa, ufro advili iqneba,Tumca am poziciidan dabrunebacgacilebiT iolia!`ruseTs ar surs da, baltiispireTisgan gansxvavebiT, saqarTvelos dakargvasjer kidev ver Seguebia. ise, Tu Sansi miecema, cxadia, baltiispireTisdabrunebasac Seecdeba, Tumca amisTvis dRes ver ibrZvis. aseve ver ibrZvisaRmosavleT qveynebis dasabruneblad. saqarTveloSi ki Tavisi realuriZalauflebis SenarCuneba ufro metad `gauvida~. amitomac Tavisaraoficialur sazRvrebSi saqarTvelos SenarCunebas cdilobs. icis, romdRes es SeuZlebelia, magram cdilobs, aq Tavisi gavlena ar dakargos~erTi sityviT, asea Tu ise,ivaniSvili marTvis realur berketebsmainc flobs da mxolodkobaxiZes ki ara, danarCensac mar-Tavs!ase rom ar iyos, aba, riT xsniT,rom gaxariam ver SeZlo,Tavisi gaetana? is premier-ministriiyo da Tanamdebobrivadsruli ufleba hqonda, gundiswevrebTan SeuTanxmeblad gadaewyvita,Zaladobrivi aqcia undaganxorcielebuliyo Tu ara, magrames ver SeZlo da arCia, pasuxismgebloba,romelic TvalebisdaTxrasTan erTad daawveboda,aecilebina!mokled, raxan darwmunda, romyvelaferi es misTvis, saboloojamSi, wamgebiani iqneboda, amitomxmaurianad gaecala da gadadga!gaxarias sruli Zalauflebarom hqonoda da mis ukanivaniSvili ar mdgariyo, is, rac,misi azriT, ar unda momxdariyo,ar moxdeboda da amiT yvelaferidamTavrdeboda, anu brZanebas argascemda, misi brZanebis gareSe kiZaladobrivi aqcia ver ganxorcieldeboda!mokled, gamoCnda, rom gaxariarealur Zalauflebas arflobda, Torem ase rom ar yofiliyo,maSin gundis reaqciulmowodebebze damokidebuli ariqneboda.ise, gaxaria, rogorc Cans, meliasdaWeris winaaRmdegic iyo..._ am mocemulobidan gamomdinare,Tqveni SefasebiT, ivaniS-vili gaxarias ukan idga TukobaxiZis ukan dgas?_ ivaniSvili yvelas ukan dgas!ivaniSvilma, Cemi azriT, berketebiSeinarCuna, Tumca fiqrobs,rom iseT poziciaSi gadavida,rom pasuxismgebloba moxsniliaqvs, magram SeuZlebelia, pasuxismgeblobamoixsnas!_ ase ratom fiqrobT?_ gaxarias iuridiulad sru-`es winaaRmdegoba rom ar yofiliyo, SesaZloa, gadadgomazegancxadeba arc gaxarias gaekeTebina. mokled, Tu dasavleTis, asevepolitikuri Zalebisa da sazogadoebisgan sakmarisi winaaRmdegobaiqneba, maSin iZulebuli gaxdebian, daTmobaze wavidnen. saboloojamSi, im situaciidan, romelic axla qveyanaSia Seqmnili,erTaderTi gamosavali vadamdeli arCevnebia, magram Tu sakmarisiwinaaRmdegoba ar iqneba, maSin droebiT isev reaqcia gaimarjvebs~li Zalaufleba unda hqonoda,magram rom ar hqonda, es misigadadgomidanac gamoCnda.sxvaTa Soris, Zalis gamoyenebazegadawyvetilebis miRebaarc kobaxiZes SeeZlo, arc _ mdinaraZesda arc _ TalakvaZes._ saubari saiTken migyavT?_ sasamarTlo Tavisufalirom araa, amaze saubaric ar Rirs.amitom igive mosamarTle,romelmac melias dapatimrebisgadawyvetileba miiRo, zemoxsenebulpirovnebebs ki ara, vi-Rac sxvas daemorCila._ sxvaTa Soris, roca Tqva,melias daWeraze gundsa da gax-arias sxvadasxva mosazrebagvqondao, koobaxiZem daadastu-ra, diax, sasamarTlo politize-buliao._ diax, asea, magram sxva ramesvambob._ ras?_ imas, Tu vin flobs realurberketebs._ hoda, es „sxva”, vinc realurberketebs flobs, kobaxiZe xomaraa?_ meeWveba._ ratom?_ kobaxiZe, ubralod, robotia,Tan Zalian boroti roboti _sxvis borot ganzraxvebs didisixaruliTa da iniciativiT asrulebs!_ qalbatono Tamar, „ocneba”,rogorc amboben, komunistebisxelisuflebas hgavs. vinaidankomunistebis bunebas kargadicnobdiT, ras elodebiT, movlenebirogori scenariT ganvi-Tardeba da „ocneba” ra nabijebsgadadgams?_ yvela xelisufleba, romelicdemokratiuli araa, cxadia,erTmaneTs raRac kuTxiT hgavs!xelisufleba ise moiqceva, ramdenicgauva, anu Tu gauva, isegaagrZelebs, rogorc iqceva._ kerZod?_ imis Sesaferiss momentsdaelodeba, rac kobaxiZem daaanonsa._ kobaxiZem ra daaanonsa?_ melias dapatimrebis Sesaferisimomenti, magram ukve gamoCnda,rom dasavleTisgan adekvaturiwinaaRmdegoba arsebobs.ise, es winaaRmdegoba rom aryofiliyo, SesaZloa, gadadgomazegancxadeba arc gaxariasgaekeTebina.mokled, Tu dasavleTis, asevepolitikuri Zalebisa da sazogadoebisgansakmarisi winaaRmdegobaiqneba, maSin iZulebuli gaxdebian,daTmobaze wavidnen.saboloo jamSi, im situaciidan,romelic axla qveyanaSiaSeqmnili, erTaderTi gamosavalivadamdeli arCevnebia, magram Tusakmarisi winaaRmdegoba ar iqneba,maSin droebiT isev reaqciagaimarjvebs._ anu?_ saerTod, „ocnebis” xelisuflebareaqciulia, magram gansakuTrebuladreaqciuli mimdinareobacaagamokveTili kobaxiZis,mdinaraZisa da sxvaTa saxiT...N2 (334) 22.02-28.02.2021 w.9
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