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say, “Mr. Astaire, when you did this scene in here, what were you—?” So, it wasn’t like, “Tell us, Fred, what’s it like to be a dancer?” It was more personal. And he was able to bring it out. So it was much more of a— MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Well, he had such enthusiasm. CLAUDE JARMAN: Yes. And he was really able to—because he knew. And Arthur Freed, the same. He knew all the musicals: Meet Me in St. Louis, An American in Paris. And the audience was beginning to pick up, and there were beginning to be more and more people. So it was more interesting. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Oh, the other thing about Opening Night, of course, was the revealing gowns. CLAUDE JARMAN: Oh, was that Jayne Mansfield and Carroll Baker who showed up? MARGARITA LANDAZURI: What were their gowns like? CLAUDE JARMAN: I can’t remember, but obviously they were—We were beginning to get more of a Hollywood touch. It was kind of becoming a time when people wanted to be seen, and they could be seen up here. So, it was good. Part of the result of—let’s see, the selection committee—myself, Niven Busch, Ernest Callenbach, Conrad, Herb Gold and Marshall Naify. So we were the people who were— MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Ernest Callenbach was <strong>Film</strong> Quarterly, right? CLAUDE JARMAN: Yes. And so we were the ones who were up against—we were the evil, Shirley was the good. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Did you ever make it up <strong>with</strong> her? CLAUDE JARMAN: Absolutely. We moved on. She moved on. 19
MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Did she attend the Festival in subsequent years? CLAUDE JARMAN: No, I don’t think so. But she never was around that much. She went to Washington. She was an ambassador in Czechoslovakia and in Africa. Her life moved on to different things. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Do you think she would be willing to talk about the Festival for the archival interviews? CLAUDE JARMAN: Maybe. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: I know that she doesn’t do press interviews, that kind of thing—or very rarely—but this is something for the archives. I’m hoping that maybe she would be able to. CLAUDE JARMAN: She’s very elusive. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Yes, yes she is. Oh, Roman Polanski, what about his tribute? CLAUDE JARMAN: I don’t remember that much about it. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: OK. CLAUDE JARMAN: At that point, he hadn’t achieved all the notoriety that he went on to achieve. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: George Cukor must have been memorable. He’s a great storyteller. CLAUDE JARMAN: Yes. MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Oh, this was a Herb Caen story about [Shirley Temple] calling him on the telephone—I don’t know—maybe to ask him to take part, and he wouldn’t believe it was her. 20
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