San Francisco Film Society Oral History Project Interview with ...

MARGARITA LANDAZURI: There’s a letter on file from her in which she kind of specifies, “These
are the clips I want.” She was very much the director, wasn’t she?
CLAUDE JARMAN: I don’t remember that, but I’m sure if that’s what she wanted, we did it. We had
Sam Peckinpah. That was one that, again, they were still anti-violence, so it wasn’t sold out. Shelley
Winters—I’m not sure she came. One year, she didn’t come.
MARGARITA LANDAZURI: I think that was the year she didn’t come. She came some years later,
same year as Natalie Wood.
CLAUDE JARMAN: She called and said, “I’m so sick, I’m so sick. I can’t come, I can’t come. What do
you want me to do?” And I wasn’t going to say, “Get on a plane and come.” So I said, “OK, we’ll try
you again in another year.” “Oh, thank you, ohhh.”
MARGARITA LANDAZURI: (LAUGHS) Yeah, that’s that whiny thing.
CLAUDE JARMAN: It was so pathetic, it was like, oh my God! It’s so funny because when I went to
the Academy Awards—probably five years ago, or whatever—every five years, when they bring the
people on stage—and I’m sitting there with my wife. And behind me I here these people say, “Look at
her, look at her. Oh my God, look at Madonna. Can you believe how she looks? Blah, blah, blah.” And
I’m sitting there thinking, “God, will she just shut up? Who is that?” And I turn around, and it was
Shelley Winters and Estelle Parsons. It reminded me of that scene in Bonnie and Clyde, Warren Beatty
turns around, and says, “Just shut the fuck up.” (LAUGHS) Oh, that was so funny. It was just like, that
immediately went to my mind. But anyway, Shelley did not come. I don’t know what we did that day.
But Peckinpah—
MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Peckinpah—
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