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CLAUDE JARMAN: Oh, you know what? I think that is true. I think she did say that— I remember<br />

that. She said, “This is Shirley,” and he says, “You gotta be kidding.” I think she called him; he was in<br />

South America somewhere. That is absolutely true. Like, “What kind of a joke is this?” (LAUGHS)<br />

MARGARITA LANDAZURI: I’m surprised they didn’t ask her to sing.<br />

CLAUDE JARMAN: The nice thing about Shirley was she was able to laugh about it. She thought it<br />

was very funny.<br />

MARGARITA LANDAZURI: OK. Anything else on 1966?<br />

CLAUDE JARMAN: Now what happened after ’66 was that the Festival did not do well financially, as<br />

far as I can tell; I wasn’t that privy to it. But anyway, they decided to make a change <strong>with</strong> Bill Boyd.<br />

That’s when they asked me if I would come in and run it for the third year of their commitment. I said,<br />

“I will, but I’m not going to quit my other job.” I said, “I’ll come over at five in the afternoon, and I’ll<br />

start the job then,” which I did. So I kept my other job, and then at five I would go over and take on this<br />

responsibility.<br />

MARGARITA LANDAZURI: Were you paid?<br />

CLAUDE JARMAN: Yes, I was paid. And the week that the Festival was going to open, the executive<br />

director of the Chamber, Bill Dauer, who I got to know pretty well, came in and shut the door. And he<br />

said, “OK.” I said, “I wanna know how much money we’re going to lose this year?” I said, “Well, as I<br />

look at it right now, we have a budget of $120,000. I don’t see us losing a dime.” And he said, “You’re<br />

kidding.” I said, “No.” I said, “In fact, I will make a deal for any amount of money that we make over<br />

$120,000. I want you to give me half.” And he said “OK.” I ended up making about $10,000. This was<br />

my first year. It was also the first year I met George Gund. George Gund came into the office one day<br />

and said, “I’m interested in the <strong>Film</strong> Festival. I’d like to make a $1,000 contribution.” And I said,<br />

“That’s great. What can we do for you?” “Nothing. I just believe in the Festival.”<br />

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