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PAGE 24 — SUNDAY VANGUARD, JANUARY 26, 2020<br />

It’s been 50 years s<strong>in</strong>ce the Nigeria civil<br />

war ended. What is your take on the<br />

subject matter, ‘Never Aga<strong>in</strong>?’<br />

Well, I have a personal experience with the<br />

civil war. I <strong>was</strong> 16 years old <strong>an</strong>d I lived <strong>in</strong><br />

Gboko, Benue State at the beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g of the<br />

war. The war started <strong>in</strong> Benue. Nigeri<strong>an</strong> troops<br />

entered Biafra territory through Benue, my<br />

community as a matter of fact <strong>an</strong>d soldiers<br />

were stationed <strong>in</strong> Makurdi <strong>an</strong>d Gboko<br />

pr<strong>in</strong>cipally because yo c<strong>an</strong> enter northern<br />

Cross River State from Gboko, so I saw it. But<br />

more th<strong>an</strong> that, there <strong>was</strong> a build-up to that<br />

war. In that build-up, there were some issues.<br />

There were riots <strong>in</strong> then-Western Nigeria<br />

<strong>an</strong>d the present day Benue State.<br />

There <strong>was</strong> a controversial census<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1963 <strong>an</strong>d the boycott of the 1964<br />

general elections by the East which<br />

produced the government. The<br />

build-up to the 1966 coup had to do<br />

with certa<strong>in</strong> issues that probably even<br />

predated <strong>in</strong>dependence; maybe some people<br />

felt that the way government <strong>was</strong> formed after<br />

<strong>in</strong>dependence <strong>an</strong>d even after the 1964<br />

elections <strong>was</strong> not satisfactory. Crisis<br />

sometimes do not happen overnight. There is<br />

a build-up <strong>an</strong>d if you do not m<strong>an</strong>age that buildup<br />

very well, crisis c<strong>an</strong> explode <strong>in</strong>to someth<strong>in</strong>g<br />

that is not good for the society. So, we had the<br />

1966 coup. There <strong>was</strong> a pattern of that coup<br />

that some people suggest <strong>was</strong> responsible for<br />

a counter-coup aga<strong>in</strong>st the Igbo, <strong>an</strong>d that led<br />

to the decision by then-governor of Eastern<br />

Region, Colonel Emeka Odumegwu-<br />

Ojukwu to take the region out of Nigeria. Of<br />

course, there <strong>was</strong> some attempt at a<br />

conference <strong>in</strong> Aburi. So we had the civil war<br />

which started from the federal side as police<br />

action. But after a while, it became civil<br />

war. And when we talked about lessons<br />

learned, if what led to that war <strong>was</strong> a<br />

problem of the national question, maybe<br />

we have not done enough to address that<br />

question.<br />

But the other po<strong>in</strong>t is also that <strong>in</strong> a<br />

country of more th<strong>an</strong> 600 ethnic groups,<br />

when you talk about justice, fairness <strong>an</strong>d<br />

equity, it must apply to all, not just one<br />

particular group. To some of us who<br />

are nationalists, therefore, all ethnic<br />

nationalities <strong>in</strong> Nigeria are entitled to<br />

fairness, equity <strong>an</strong>d justice.<br />

In your own estimation, do you<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k those th<strong>in</strong>gs have been well<br />

addressed?<br />

Well, <strong>in</strong> measures. For <strong>example</strong>,<br />

when then-Head of State, General<br />

Yakubu Gowon, created 12 states<br />

at the beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g of the war, he<br />

seemed to have addressed the<br />

agitation for creation of more<br />

regions. You know we started<br />

our Nigeri<strong>an</strong> federation<br />

with three regions but, by<br />

1963, we had the<br />

Midwest Region<br />

created out of Western<br />

Region but there were<br />

agitations for more<br />

states. In northern<br />

Nigeria, there <strong>was</strong><br />

agitation for a region<br />

<strong>in</strong> the north-east<br />

spearheaded by the<br />

Borno Youth Movement <strong>an</strong>d there <strong>was</strong> also<br />

<strong>an</strong> agitation <strong>in</strong> the middle-belt region<br />

spearheaded by the United Middle-Belt<br />

Congress. And <strong>in</strong> the Eastern Region, you had<br />

agitation for Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers Region.<br />

But, more th<strong>an</strong> that, when we had<br />

constitutional government under military rule<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1979, there <strong>was</strong> <strong>an</strong> attempt to <strong>in</strong>troduce<br />

<strong>in</strong>to our Constitution certa<strong>in</strong> pr<strong>in</strong>ciples like<br />

the federal character pr<strong>in</strong>ciple. Some people<br />

said that pr<strong>in</strong>ciple attempts to address<br />

lopsided representation <strong>in</strong> national<br />

govern<strong>an</strong>ce but it also has the tendency to shortch<strong>an</strong>ge<br />

competition. That is <strong>an</strong> argument<br />

which persists. I th<strong>in</strong>k that agitation cont<strong>in</strong>ues<br />

for greater equity, greater fairness <strong>an</strong>d greater<br />

justice <strong>in</strong> Nigeria <strong>an</strong>d one c<strong>an</strong> see where that<br />

is reasonable because there have been<br />

questions of fiscal federalism for <strong>example</strong>:<br />

what happens to the resources of Nigeria? Do<br />

we have too much of those federally generated<br />

or appropriated resources go<strong>in</strong>g to the Federal<br />

Government? I believe we c<strong>an</strong> give more<br />

resources to states <strong>an</strong>d local governments.<br />

<strong>How</strong> far are we implement<strong>in</strong>g federal<br />

character? Maybe attempts at<br />

implementation have not been good enough;<br />

so there are all these questions. But <strong>in</strong>justice is<br />

not someth<strong>in</strong>g that c<strong>an</strong> be said to be meted<br />

out to only one section of the country. I don’t<br />

w<strong>an</strong>t to talk about my community. We have<br />

done a lot for this country but they pretend as<br />

if we don’t exist or they th<strong>in</strong>k we don’t have the<br />

capacity to threaten secession. But people from<br />

my community, about 60% of them, fought<br />

the civil on behalf of Nigeria but people<br />

pretend that that sacrifice is not import<strong>an</strong>t.<br />

We are noth<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

Look<strong>in</strong>g at the Aburi Accord that eventually<br />

failed <strong>an</strong>d other issues that culm<strong>in</strong>ated <strong>in</strong>to<br />

the civil war; would you say Ojukwu <strong>was</strong><br />

right <strong>in</strong> call<strong>in</strong>g for that secession?<br />

I saw <strong>an</strong> op<strong>in</strong>ion piece written by <strong>an</strong> Igbo<br />

person blam<strong>in</strong>g Ojukwu for not listen<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

Zik among others. He said Ojukwu <strong>was</strong><br />

possibly so up<strong>set</strong> with the kill<strong>in</strong>g of the Igbo <strong>in</strong><br />

other parts of Nigeria <strong>an</strong>d how the crisis turned<br />

out to be that he <strong>was</strong> not rational at that time.<br />

I like to put myself <strong>in</strong> his shoes <strong>an</strong>d wonder<br />

what I would have done; it is<br />

very difficult to suggest that<br />

somebody would have been<br />

rational with those th<strong>in</strong>gs that<br />

happened <strong>an</strong>d I th<strong>in</strong>k whatever<br />

it <strong>was</strong> that started those th<strong>in</strong>gs,<br />

it is possible that they could also<br />

go overboard. I th<strong>in</strong>k the<br />

counter-coup <strong>was</strong> probably a<br />

military th<strong>in</strong>g. So, if it <strong>was</strong> a<br />

military affair, maybe it <strong>was</strong><br />

enough but now spill<strong>in</strong>g over<br />

to the communities <strong>an</strong>d the<br />

massacre of people <strong>was</strong> ugly.<br />

•Professor Yima Sen<br />

The Igbo still feel shortch<strong>an</strong>ged<br />

<strong>in</strong> Nigeria 50 years<br />

after the war. C<strong>an</strong> that be<br />

justified?<br />

This idea has been<br />

sensationalized. War is not<br />

good <strong>an</strong>d when a war ends <strong>an</strong>d<br />

you lose, you c<strong>an</strong>not celebrate.<br />

I w<strong>an</strong>t to give <strong>an</strong> <strong>example</strong>. The<br />

bomb<strong>in</strong>g of Nagasaki <strong>an</strong>d<br />

Hiroshima rema<strong>in</strong>s a problem<br />

<strong>in</strong> Jap<strong>an</strong> up till today. There<br />

are the effects of those bombs<br />

as we speak. Germ<strong>an</strong>s lost the<br />

First World War <strong>an</strong>d they were very <strong>bad</strong>ly<br />

treated by the victors. They were made to pay<br />

reparations for los<strong>in</strong>g the war <strong>an</strong>d, because of<br />

that maltreatment, Hitler led Germ<strong>an</strong>s <strong>in</strong>to<br />

the Second World War <strong>an</strong>d that Second World<br />

War <strong>was</strong> even worse th<strong>an</strong> the First World War<br />

for Germ<strong>an</strong>y, Italy <strong>an</strong>d Jap<strong>an</strong>. Although<br />

Germ<strong>an</strong>y is a very strong economy <strong>in</strong> Europe<br />

<strong>an</strong>d has very <strong>in</strong>dustrious people, they are very<br />

accomplished people. If you look at the five<br />

decision makers for peace <strong>an</strong>d security<br />

I th<strong>in</strong>k that we<br />

should be<br />

able to<br />

convert some<br />

of these<br />

th<strong>in</strong>gs which<br />

are seen as<br />

threats <strong>in</strong>to<br />

issues for<br />

national<br />

development<br />

matters <strong>in</strong> the world, I am talk<strong>in</strong>g about the<br />

perm<strong>an</strong>ent members of the United Nations<br />

Security Council (US, UK, Fr<strong>an</strong>ce, Russia <strong>an</strong>d<br />

Ch<strong>in</strong>a), those are the mates of Germ<strong>an</strong>y <strong>in</strong> the<br />

world. Germ<strong>an</strong>y should be there but they are<br />

not. The UN system emerged<br />

after WW II. After the civil war<br />

<strong>in</strong> the United States, the<br />

southern part of the America<br />

did not produce a President<br />

until the Jimmy Carter<br />

presidency. Dur<strong>in</strong>g the first Gulf<br />

War, Iraq <strong>in</strong>vaded Kuwait <strong>an</strong>d<br />

some allies from the West<br />

attacked Iraq. Iraq withdrew<br />

from Kuwait but those who<br />

attacked Iraq from the West<br />

were not satisfied <strong>an</strong>d there <strong>was</strong><br />

a second Gulf War <strong>an</strong>d Iraq <strong>was</strong><br />

virtually destroyed <strong>an</strong>d the<br />

leader, Sadam Husse<strong>in</strong>, killed.<br />

Iraq has not recovered from the<br />

war. What I am say<strong>in</strong>g is that<br />

war is not nice but I th<strong>in</strong>k<br />

Gowon<br />

deserves<br />

commendation for his three Rs<br />

(Reconciliation, Rehabilitation<br />

<strong>an</strong>d Reconstruction) <strong>an</strong>d the<br />

‘no victor, no v<strong>an</strong>quished’<br />

pr<strong>in</strong>ciple.<br />

But have the Igbo actually<br />

been properly re<strong>in</strong>tegrated?<br />

I know that some military<br />

officers from the Biafra side were re<strong>in</strong>tegrated<br />

<strong>in</strong>to the Nigeri<strong>an</strong> armed forces. I know that <strong>in</strong><br />

some communities, certa<strong>in</strong> people who left<br />

their properties came back <strong>an</strong>d people gave<br />

the properties back to them then they came<br />

back. And dur<strong>in</strong>g the first democratically<br />

constituted government of Nigeria after the<br />

civil war, <strong>an</strong> Igbo person (Alex Ekwueme) <strong>was</strong><br />

the number two person <strong>in</strong> government <strong>an</strong>d he<br />

<strong>was</strong> most likely go<strong>in</strong>g to succeed President<br />

Shehu Shagari.<br />

2023:<br />

Specifically, what did you take away from the<br />

gather<strong>in</strong>g of ‘Never Aga<strong>in</strong>’ <strong>in</strong> Lagos?<br />

What I took away from the gather<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Lagos<br />

<strong>was</strong> a sober<strong>in</strong>g of reflection on the war. Of course,<br />

there were one or two emotional voices but I <strong>was</strong><br />

impressed with some of the ma<strong>in</strong> contributors who<br />

were call<strong>in</strong>g for reason<strong>in</strong>g but one of them talked<br />

about wars <strong>in</strong> history <strong>an</strong>d this <strong>was</strong> <strong>an</strong> Igbo person<br />

<strong>an</strong>d how nasty they have been to people who were<br />

defeated. One should never call the aftermath of a<br />

war as good but, to <strong>an</strong> extent, it has been because<br />

people are v<strong>in</strong>dictive. Germ<strong>an</strong>y has not recovered<br />

from the two World Wars.<br />

The South-West just came up with Amotekun, a<br />

regional security network, to police their<br />

environment. There has been this debate as to<br />

whether it is legal or not. Is it a th<strong>in</strong>g to be<br />

commended?<br />

I will <strong>an</strong>swer that question like <strong>an</strong> ord<strong>in</strong>ary person<br />

who is concerned about security all over Nigeria,<br />

not just <strong>in</strong> <strong>an</strong>y part of Nigeria. If you look at the<br />

North-East, they have had to employ hunters to assist<br />

the armed forces to deal with Boko Haram. The<br />

question is who are these hunters? There have been<br />

all sorts of vigil<strong>an</strong>te groups around Nigeria. Why<br />

do we need vigil<strong>an</strong>te groups? There are countries<br />

across the world where you hardly need polic<strong>in</strong>g;<br />

you c<strong>an</strong> just go about your bus<strong>in</strong>esses <strong>an</strong>d not be<br />

afraid of crime. The level of <strong>in</strong>security <strong>in</strong> Nigeria<br />

today has reached a level where if people engage <strong>in</strong><br />

self-help, you c<strong>an</strong>not blame them. Insecurity is no<br />

respecter of ethnicity or religion. I know of Ful<strong>an</strong>i<br />

men who have been kidnapped by Ful<strong>an</strong>i b<strong>an</strong>dits<br />

<strong>in</strong> the bush <strong>an</strong>d they are not <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> your<br />

religious or ethnic plead<strong>in</strong>gs. So, if a community<br />

says “look, we c<strong>an</strong> police our community” <strong>an</strong>d if<br />

what they are do<strong>in</strong>g is with<strong>in</strong> the law or the<br />

Constitution, I am not opposed to that k<strong>in</strong>d of<br />

arr<strong>an</strong>gement.<br />

But the Federal Government through the<br />

Attorney General has declared it illegal?<br />

Well, I don’t know. I am not a member of the Federal

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