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JG. I understand that Varea had his sights set on climbing to higherpositions and this increase his <strong>CIA</strong> salary.PA. We even had the illusion that Varea could become President, butafter the famous case of “Scrap Metal”, he was so discredited that hereally could not be saved.JG. You mention Rafael Arízaga in your book as leader of the ConservativeParty in Cuenca, and identify him as Arízaga’s father Carlos Vega,noting that the two <strong>CIA</strong> agents were the most important in the Azuayduring the bloody years of the anticommunist campaign. But reallyArízaga Vega’s father was Charles Arízaga Toral, now deceased. Do youhave the wrong name? It was actually the father of Arízaga agent Vega?PA. Arízaga Vega’s father was the person with whom Noland, Chief ofthe <strong>CIA</strong> in <strong>Ecuador</strong>, worked. I was wrong in the name of the father. In myresearch I got the name of Rafael in the <strong>Ecuador</strong>ian Embassy in London.It is however, Arízaga Carlos Toral.JG. Did they receive, father and son, <strong>CIA</strong> money for the anticommunistcampaign?PA. Yes. Noland gave the money to the anticommunist campaign inCuenca. Noland went to Cuenca, but sometimes the father or son wentto Quito. I remember well one night at the “Quito” Hotel, when I waswith Noland and Arízaga Carlos Vega. Noland introduced me and wespent the night together.JG. José María Egas, then poncist leader, has publicly acknowledgedhis collaboration with the <strong>CIA</strong> at the time, and mentioned the name ofCaptain Carlos Roggiero, also poncist, as one of the main links with the<strong>CIA</strong>. What role did Roggiero play?PA. Roggiero was responsible for the people of militant action of the34

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