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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
yovelkvireuli gazeTi<br />
gamodis samSabaTobiT N17 (194) 16.05<br />
05.201<br />
.2017 fasi 2 lari<br />
eqskluzivi<br />
sosos<br />
agonia,<br />
apaTia<br />
gv. 7<br />
da abulia...<br />
brZola gavlenebisTvis<br />
gv. 2<br />
uCa mamacaSvili<br />
&<br />
nika rurua:<br />
`qarTul ocnebaSi~ xarbi<br />
bavSvebiviT cdiloben,<br />
mTlianad SeWamon torti,<br />
romelic maT ar ekuTvniT~<br />
oTar farcxalaZe -<br />
vis airCevs ivaniSvili?!<br />
`xelisufleba<br />
Seicvleba da irakli<br />
dabrundeba policiaSi!~<br />
giorgi gugava:<br />
`prezidents SeuZlia,<br />
gadadges da mTlianad aireva<br />
is dalagebuli konstituciuri<br />
ablabuda, romelic<br />
ivaniSvilma Caifiqra!~<br />
gv. 18 gv. 12<br />
gv. 24<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
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eliso kilaZe<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
politikuri krizisi da dapiri-<br />
spireba biZina ivaniSvilis karze saxezea.<br />
klounadad qceulma konstituciis saerTo-saxalxo ganxilvam<br />
kidev erTxel cxadyo, rom „qarTuli ocneba” mxolod sak-<br />
uTari aqtivistebis partiaa da yvela regionSi konstituciis<br />
ganxilvaze darbazi sajaro moxeleebiT da alag-alag myefare<br />
xmosnebiT iyo savse. xmosnebs, ZiriTadad, opoziciis gamosvlis<br />
dro xmauri, stvena da wamoZaxilebi evalebodaT. gansakuTrebiT<br />
STambeWdavi iyo fraza, _ Tqven rom xalxs xocavdiT?<br />
am frazebis mosmena, ZiriTadad, „evropuli saqarTve-<br />
los” warmomadgenlebs uxdebodaT, radgan „nacionalurma<br />
moZraobam” ganxilvaSi monawileobaze imTaviTve uari Tqva.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
brZola<br />
uCa mamacaSvili<br />
&<br />
oTar<br />
farcxalaZe - vis airCevs<br />
biZina ivaniSvili<br />
laSa Tordia<br />
uCa mamacaSvili<br />
oTar farcxalaZe<br />
soso gogaSvili<br />
quTaisSi konstituciis sayovelTao<br />
ganxilvas piradad veswrebodi.<br />
darbazSi, erTi mxriv, samxaraZe-gogaSvilis<br />
„Spana” iyo mobilizebuli<br />
roza lorTqifaniZis<br />
ZmisSvilis, oTar lorTqifaniZis<br />
organizebiT, magram radgan maTi<br />
gadaReba mobiluri telefoniT<br />
daviwye, destruqcias aSkarad moeridnen.<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” mxardamWerTa<br />
Soris aseve sapatio adgilas<br />
ijda Tavad roza lorTqifaniZec.<br />
erTi myvirala xmosani<br />
Cems ukana rigSi ijda. sergi kapana-<br />
Zis gamosvlisas adgilidan wamoxta,<br />
xelebis qneviT yvirili daiwyo,<br />
_ xalxs rom xocavdiT, axla<br />
ras iTxovTo? xmosans iqve vkiTxe,<br />
_ Semaxsene, erTi, sadauri xar da<br />
romeli reJimis msxverpli iyavimeTqi?<br />
aSkarad micno da polemikaSi<br />
gamoyola gadaifiqra. rogorc<br />
mogvianebiT gavarkvie, reJimis msxverpli,<br />
sinamdvileSi, sajaro moxele<br />
da sportuli aaip-is Tanam-<br />
Sromeli, malxaz ratiani yofila.<br />
mquxare taSiT, dazepirebuli<br />
frazebiT da SekiTxvebiT, prezidiumSi<br />
msxdomi deputaciis paTosiT<br />
da parlamentis Tavmjdomaris<br />
demagogiiT Sekreba namdvilad hgavda<br />
komunisturi partiis yrilobas.<br />
rogorc gairkva, moqalaqeebs,<br />
romlebic konstituciis cvlilebebze<br />
azrs gamoTqvamdnen, realurad<br />
konstituciis proeqti wakiTxuli<br />
arc ki hqondaT. amave Sexvedraze<br />
sikvdiliT dasjis aRdgena<br />
da specsamsaxurebis kidev ufro<br />
gaaqtiureba moiTxoves. arada,<br />
sus-i zedmetad aqtiuria, maT<br />
Soris, xelisuflebis sxvadasxva<br />
Stos Soris dapirispirebaSic.<br />
saxelisuflebo wreebs Soris<br />
dapirispireba quTaisSi TvalnaTliv<br />
igrZnoba. givi WiWinaZe formaluri<br />
gubernatoria. mis mimarT<br />
agresias aSkarad mxolod imitom<br />
ar gamoxataven, rom biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
axlo megobaria. saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis win sus-is ufrosis<br />
moadgile soso gogaSvilma quTaisSi<br />
maJoritarebad sakuTari kandidaturebi<br />
ver gaiyvana, samagierod,<br />
„stukaCi” namdvilad ipova<br />
vice-gubernator giorgi WiRvarias<br />
saxiT. es qalaqeli biWi tabi-<br />
Zis quCaze aTen-aRamebs sus-is ufros<br />
qafianiZis kabinetSi. swored<br />
giorgi WiRvarias rekomendaciiT<br />
moxvda quTaisis meri SoTa mur-<br />
Rulia da sakrebulos Tavmjdomare<br />
daviT dvali „qronika+”-is<br />
ararsebuli wyaroebis siaSi.<br />
„antrikotas” quTaisTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT sakuTari gegmebi aqvs. is<br />
adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebze quTaisis meris postze<br />
giorgi WiRvarias kandidaturas<br />
lobirebs misive meore xelisbiWis,<br />
dito samxaraZis rekomendaciiT.<br />
meore mxriv, merad kenWisyris survili<br />
moqmed mers, SoTa murRuliasac<br />
aqvs. gogaSvilsa da qafianiZes<br />
murRuliaze sxva kompromatebi,<br />
rogorc Cans, ar gaaCniaT da<br />
„qronika+”-Tan dapliusebiT cdiloben<br />
moqmedi meris diskreditacias.<br />
is, rom sus-is ufrosis moadgiles<br />
nervebma umtyuna, es jer Cemi<br />
Svilis ukanono dakavebiT gamoCnda,<br />
mere ukve saagento „reportioris”<br />
generaluri direqtoris,<br />
giorgi mamacaSvilis mxridan „mxilebis<br />
kampaniis” dawyebiT. am kampaniaSi<br />
gogaSvili marto ar aris,<br />
mas yofili premier-ministris,<br />
irakli RaribaSvilis naTesavebi,<br />
kerZod ki zviad janyaraSvili umagrebs<br />
mxars.<br />
ratom giorgi mamacaSvili?<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro ambobs, rom<br />
zviad janyaraSvili nugzar fofxaZis<br />
fuWma dapirebebma da Cem<br />
winaaRmdeg kuluarulma brZolebma<br />
Zalian daRala. mas da gogaSvils<br />
fofxaZisTvis sakmaod soliduri<br />
Tanxa aqvT gadaxdili. Sedegad<br />
ki veraferi miiRes. swored<br />
amitom yofila janyaraSvilis da-<br />
Jinebuli moTxovna, brZolis velze<br />
Cem winaaRmdeg Tavad „reportiori”<br />
Semosuliyo. albaT, Sors<br />
arc is droa, roca janyaraSvilgogaSvili<br />
mixvdebian, rom fofxaZe<br />
maT, ubralod, abolebs da<br />
fuls sZalavs. veranair Sedegs „mxilebis”<br />
kampania ver gamoiRebs. me<br />
Cemi simarTle maqvs da Zalian bevr<br />
adamians am qveyanaSi am simarTlis<br />
sjera. arc Jurnalistobaze uaris<br />
Tqmas vapireb da arc gazeTis<br />
gamocemis SeCerebas.<br />
zviad janyaraSvili<br />
2 N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.
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gavlenebisTvis<br />
„qronika+”-is msgavsad, e. w. kaxelebis<br />
klansa da soso gogaSvilsac<br />
erTnairad uSlis nervebs Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa ministris yofili<br />
moadgile gela xvedeliZe. isini mas<br />
pirad mtrad aRiqvamen. xvedeliZis<br />
winaaRmdeg gogaSvilma erTi Zveli<br />
agenti, veteraTa da patriotTa<br />
politikuri moZraobis Tavmjdomare,<br />
gia berZenaZe Semoiyvana.<br />
vin aris gia berZenaZe?<br />
pirvelad is Cems arealSi 2007<br />
wels gamoCnda. badri patarkaciSvilis<br />
saarCevno StabSi misi moZraobis<br />
erT-erTma liderma, rezo<br />
CakvetaZem, videoCanaweri gamoagzavna.<br />
am CanawerSi is samxedro<br />
policiasa da konstituciuri usafrTxoebis<br />
departaments amxelda.<br />
konkretulad, 2007 wlis 7<br />
noembris darbevis mere samxedro<br />
policiam merve polkis teritoriaze<br />
yofili samxedroebi miiyvana,<br />
yvela maTgani dakiTxa da identuri<br />
Cvenebebi daawerina, rom badri<br />
patarkaciSvilis davalebiT goga<br />
xaindrava kitovanis yofil gvardielebs<br />
agrovebda, maT iaraRis<br />
SesaZenad aTi milioni dolari gadasca<br />
da samxedro gadatrialebisTvis<br />
mzadeba midioda, anu Zaladobrivi<br />
gziT konstituciuri wyobilebis<br />
dasamxobad. dakiTxul<br />
samxedroebs Soris iyo gia berZenaZec,<br />
romelmac gamoZiebasTan aqtiurad<br />
iTanamSromla, Cveni Stabisa<br />
da goga xaindravas winaaRmdeg<br />
Cveneba misca da meore dResve<br />
gaaTavisufles. 4000-lariani girao<br />
mas „kudma” gadauxada da amis<br />
mere aravis gaxsenebia arc misi<br />
iaraRis ukanono tareba da arc<br />
„opozicionerobaSi” SeuSlia vinmes<br />
xeli. gia berZenaZe dRes Rrma<br />
paTosiT gvauwyebs, rom saakaSvilis<br />
reJimis msxverplia. 2007 wels<br />
soso gogaSvili farSis distribuciiT<br />
iyo dakavebuli da bunebrivia,<br />
maSindeli politikuri kuluarebi<br />
misTvis ucxo xilia. samagierod,<br />
mas sus-Si agenturis arqivi<br />
daxvda, romelsac aqtiurad<br />
iyenebs xan „qronika+”-is, xanac<br />
gela xvedeliZis winaaRmdeg.<br />
kud-is Zveli „stukaCi” gia<br />
berZenaZe acxadebs: gela xvedeliZes<br />
sadme rom Sexvedroda, aucileblad<br />
scemda.<br />
rodis iyo, kaci vinmes cemas<br />
apirebda da amisTvis sagazeTo<br />
interviuebi sWirdeboda?<br />
sad iyo gia berZenaZe Tavisi<br />
pretenziebiT maSin, roca gela<br />
xvedeliZe Ss ministris moadgile<br />
gaxldaT?<br />
ram SeuSala xeli, enaxa da<br />
urTierTobebi gaerkvia masTan<br />
Tanamdebobidan wamosvlis Sem-<br />
deg?<br />
ratom ambobda pirad saubreb-<br />
Si, rom gela xvedeliZis ZmasTan<br />
megobrobs?<br />
ram gaabraza sinamdvileSi gia<br />
berZenaZe? iman xom ara, rom gela<br />
xvedeliZem is gogaSvilis ms-<br />
gavsad „qarTuli ocnebis” ofiss<br />
ar gaakara, icoda ra maTi kavSire-<br />
bi „kudTan”?<br />
gela xvedeliZe Tanamdebo-<br />
bidan da, Sesabamisad, „qarTuli<br />
ocnebidan” oTxi wlis wamosulia.<br />
Tu berZenaZe aseTi Seucvleli<br />
profesionali iyo, ratom ar<br />
gaikara gverdiT xelisuflebam?<br />
magram berZenaZe „stukaCis”<br />
statuss ver gascda da misi sagazeTo<br />
interviu patara kacis ba-<br />
qibuqia. ufro zustad, kaci am<br />
SefasebaSi sruliad zedmeti sityvaa.<br />
ase mxolod arakacebi iqce-<br />
vian!!!<br />
gela xvedeliZem sajarod, socialur<br />
qsel feisbuqis meSveobiT<br />
SesTavaza mas Sexvedra. rogor moiqceva<br />
berZenaZe? ra didi gamocnoba<br />
magas unda _ ra Tqma unda,<br />
daimaleba!!!<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro ambobs, rom<br />
gogaSvilis skandalebiT ukve yvela<br />
daiRala, mas ukve gadauketes<br />
biznesebi da Sesaferis moments<br />
elodebian Tavdacvis saministro-<br />
Si gadasayvanad. „antrikotas” Tanamdebobidan<br />
demonstraciulad ar<br />
xsnian mxolod imitom, rom es<br />
„qronika+”-s da Cems saxels ar<br />
daukavSirdes.<br />
gacilebiT ufro masStaburi da<br />
sainteresoa dapirispireba yofil<br />
mTavar prokuror oTar farcxalaZesa<br />
da generalur auditor<br />
laSa Tordias Soris. laSa Tordia<br />
„nacebidan” portirebuli „qocia”.<br />
is ambobs, rom oTar farcxalaZem<br />
Tanmxleb pirebTan erTad Sardenze<br />
scema. Tordia acxadebs, rom es<br />
Tavdasxma meriaSi mimdinare Semowmebasa<br />
da farcxalaZis mier SeRavaTiani<br />
pirobebiT SeZenil miwis<br />
nakveTs exeboda. interviuSi is<br />
acxadebs, rom konkretul SemTxvevaSi<br />
saxezea nepotizmis niSnebi.<br />
vin aris oTar farcxalaZe?<br />
is yofili mTavari prokuroria,<br />
romelmac Tanamdeboba e. w.<br />
botasebis skandalis gamo datova.<br />
farcxalaZe biZina ivaniSvilTan<br />
daaxloebuli piria, mas bera ivani-<br />
SvilTan naTel-mironoba akav-<br />
Sirebs. ramdenad SeZlebda laSa<br />
Tordia damoukideblad daewyo<br />
Semowmeba farcxalaZis mier SeZenil<br />
miwebTan dakavSirebiT? an rodis<br />
mere gaxda igi aseTi guladi,<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
gela xvedeliZe<br />
rom sajaro interviuebis micemas<br />
bedavs oTar farcxalaZeze da nepotizmze?<br />
ratom ar akeTebs aqcents<br />
daviT narmaniaze, romelic<br />
sajaro piri da, savaraudod, Cadenili<br />
danaSaulis erTi mxarea da<br />
ratom apelirebs mxolod kerZo<br />
pirze?<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro ambobs, rom<br />
laSa Tordia, realurad, uCa mamacaSvilis<br />
patronaJis qveSaa, mas<br />
xSirad xedaven sapartniori fond-<br />
Si, is uCa mamacaSvils informacias<br />
awvdis mimdinare Semowmebebze da<br />
misgan Sesabamis davalebebs iRebs.<br />
Tavis mxriv, uCa mamacaSvili srulad<br />
akontrolebs sus-s da antikorufciul<br />
samsaxurs, aseve akontrolebs<br />
kaxelebisa da gogaSvilis<br />
meSveobiT Sinagan saqmeTa saministros,<br />
magram ver akontrolebs<br />
prokuraturas, radgan aq farcxalaZis<br />
meSveobiT mxolod biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis kontroli moqmedebs.<br />
amasTan, oTar farcxalaZe seriozul<br />
informacias flobs bizneswreebis<br />
finansuri saqmianobis, gavlenis<br />
sferoebisa da wilebis Sesaxeb,<br />
maT Soris, realuri informacia<br />
aqvs sus-is ufrosisa da misi<br />
moadgilis biznessaqmianobazec.<br />
oTar farcxalaZe sakuTari informirebulobiT<br />
da pirdapiri<br />
kavSirebiT biZina ivaniSvilTan,<br />
pirvel rigSi, swored am jgufisTvisaa<br />
safrTxe. Cveni wyaro ambobs,<br />
rom swored amitom laSa<br />
Tordia uCa mamacaSvilis davalebiT<br />
agrovebs informacias da kompromatebs<br />
oTar farcxalaZeze.<br />
Tu farcxalaZe wiTel xazebs<br />
gadakveTs da biZina ivaniSvils misi<br />
garemocvis Sesaxeb informacias<br />
miawvdis, sapasuxo kompromatebic<br />
mzad iqneba, romelsac paralelur<br />
reJimSi magidaze daudeben biZina<br />
ivaniSvils.<br />
meore versiiT, biZina ivaniSvilma<br />
yvelaferi icis, ras saqmianobs<br />
misi uaxloesi garemocva. maT Soris,<br />
oTar farcxalaZec. misive idea<br />
iyo, uCa mamacaSvils axlos hyoloda<br />
irakli RaribaSvili da misi<br />
garemocva, rom ase gaekontrolebina<br />
maTi politikuri gegmebi,<br />
radgan ivaniSvilisTvis realuri<br />
safrTxe axla „nacebze” metad kaxelebis<br />
dajgufebaa.<br />
mesame versiiT, oTar farcxalaZes<br />
Tavidanve mozomili hqonda<br />
misi sferoebi: benzini gazi,<br />
dizeli gadazidvebi; rac Seexeba<br />
miwebs, es operacia man gundis gareSe<br />
Caatara, swored amitom<br />
SeuSves generaluri auditori meriaSi<br />
Sesamowmeblad da farcxalaZis<br />
winaaRmdeg skandalis agoreba<br />
mas daevala.<br />
orive scenarSi laSa Tordia<br />
swored xelisuflebis erTi Stos<br />
davalebebis Semsrulebelia, mas<br />
mwvane aunTes rogorc Semowmebisas,<br />
ise sajaro gancxadebebis gakeTebis<br />
dros, rac saboloo jam-<br />
Si, oTar farcxalaZis srul diskreditacias<br />
emsaxureba.<br />
auditis samsaxurs Tu maincdamainc<br />
miwebis skandali ainteresebs,<br />
Tbilisis meriaSi bevrad ufro<br />
saintereso kombinacia moxda<br />
mosamarTle nata nazRaiZis Zmis miwebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rasac generaluri<br />
auditoris mxridan Semowmeba<br />
ar mohyolia, iseve rogorc<br />
miwebis yvelaze xmauriani skandali<br />
ukavSirdeba swored sus-is ufrosis<br />
moadgile soso gogaSvils,<br />
_ mas colisdis saxelze 1 500 000<br />
kv.m. miwis nakveTebi aqvs gaformebuli.<br />
arc isaa gamoricxuli. rom auditis<br />
samsaxuris meriaSi Semowmebaze<br />
Sesvla pirdapir ukavSirdebodes<br />
moaxloebuli TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebSi daviT narmanias<br />
xelmeored kenWisyris survils.<br />
rogorc ukve gacxadda, Tbilisis<br />
meris postze kenWisyra Zalian<br />
unda energetikis ministr kaxi<br />
kalaZes, auditis daskvna SeiZleba<br />
lakmusis qaRaldi aRmoCndes, moqmed<br />
mers arCevanis gakeTeba meris<br />
savarZelsa da prokuraturas Soris<br />
mouwios.<br />
dagegmili samTavrobo cvlilebebi<br />
gaurkveveli vadiT gadaido.<br />
giorgi kvirikaSvilis moxsna gadawyvetili<br />
iyo da mis adgilze ekonomikis<br />
ministri giorgi gaxaria<br />
iniSneboda. „qronika+”-is wyaros<br />
informaciiT, biZina ivaniSvili misi<br />
sayvareli deidaSvilis frTis<br />
gaZlierebas moerida da amitomac<br />
fiqrobs, rom kvirikaSvili postze<br />
garkveuli vadiT isev datovos.<br />
miT ufro im fonze, roca TeTr<br />
saxlSi swored kvirikaSvili daibares<br />
da mas, rogorc amboben, sakmaod<br />
mkacri mesijebi gamoatanes<br />
qveynis araformalur mmarTvel-<br />
Tan. erT versiad vadamdeli saparlamento<br />
arCevnebi da xelisuflebis<br />
mSvidobiani gadabarebac<br />
ganixileba. amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis mxridan saqarTvelom<br />
teritoriuli mTlianobis mxardasaWerad<br />
uprecedento aqti gamosca.<br />
saxelmwifo mdivans 90 dRis<br />
vadaSi daevala, okupirebuli afxazeTisa<br />
da „samxreT oseTis” irgvliv<br />
situacia Seiswavlos. 2018<br />
wels „pentagoni” 45 miliardiT<br />
zrdis samxedro xarjebs, es ki imas<br />
niSnavs, rom amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebi ruseTTan kompromisebs<br />
ar apirebs.<br />
saqarTvelos mere ruseTi, ruseTis<br />
mere ukraina _ TeTri saxlis<br />
pozicia da mesijebi sakmaod<br />
mkafioa.<br />
rogorc Cans, rusuli gavlenebis<br />
winaaRmdeg brZolaSi ukraina da<br />
saqarTvelo isev strategiuli partniorebi<br />
iqnebian. vin iqneba biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis mokavSire am did<br />
politikur TamaSSi? is safrange-<br />
Tis moqalaqea, magram safrangeTis<br />
axali prezidenti ruseTTan,<br />
lamis, civi omis madgomareobaSia.<br />
rogorc Cans, ivaniSvili rusebs<br />
danapirebs ver Seusrulebs _ afxazeTis<br />
rkinigzis gaxsna aseTi martivi<br />
sulac ar iqneba.<br />
saqarTvelos aSkarad cxeli<br />
zafxuli elis win _ rogorc<br />
pirdapiri, aseve gadataniTi<br />
mniSvnelobiT.<br />
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Tordias cemis faqti Sardenze mdebare barSi.<br />
2017 wlis 13 maiss saerTaSoriso<br />
organizaciebma saprotesto<br />
werili gaagzavnes da dauyovnebeli<br />
reagirebisken mouwodes mTavrobas.<br />
es organizaciebi gaxlavT:<br />
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saqarTvelo”, „adamianis uflebebis<br />
swavlebisa da monitoringis<br />
centri” (EMC), „saqarTvelos axalgazrda<br />
iuristTa asociacia”, „informaciis<br />
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piris qonebrivi mdgomareobis Sesaxeb<br />
deklaracia Sevsebuli aqvs<br />
orjer, pirveli _ 2013 wlis 5 ivniss<br />
da meore _ 2014 wlis 28<br />
Tebervals. 2013 wels deklaracia<br />
Sevsebuli aqvs, rogorc saqarTvelos<br />
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Sps „roial develofmenTis” (romelic<br />
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TviT adre daregistrirda) mesakuTreebisa<br />
da direqtorebis<br />
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wlis 29 ivnisamde kompania „roial<br />
develofmenTis” 40%-iani wilis<br />
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direqtoric oTar farcxalaZe<br />
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baga-baRebis sammarTvelos sakvebi<br />
produqtebiT momaragebaze.<br />
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sammarTvelos pressamsax-<br />
rTliani arCevnebisa da demokratiis<br />
saerTaSoriso sazogadoeba”,<br />
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demokratiuli iniciativa”.<br />
laSa Tordias gancxadebiT, mas<br />
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oTar farcxalaZe da dacvis<br />
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Zieba daiwyo da mokle xanSi sakmaod<br />
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ar gaxmaurebula da arc gaxmaurdeba<br />
laSa Tordias gamojanmrTelebamde.<br />
ase rom, Cven maT pirvelebi<br />
warmogidgenT.<br />
Sps „roial develofmenTi” 2014<br />
wlis oqtomberSia daregistrirebuli.<br />
misi direqtorebi arian lev<br />
nanikaSvili da rafael eluaSvili,<br />
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_ 25%, manuax nanikaSvili _<br />
25% da Sps hapitron _ i. r. menejment<br />
& investments _ 50%. aRsani-<br />
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kompania „roial develofmenTis”<br />
40%-is wilis mflobeli<br />
da 11 agvistomde kompaniis erT-<br />
flobs Tu ara sasaklaos kaxeTSi oTar farcxalaZe?!<br />
ticiis saministroSi _ mTavar prokurors<br />
(yofili). 2013 wlis deklaraciaSi<br />
miTiTebuli aqvs, rom<br />
is aris Sps „bodi gardis” mewile,<br />
Tumca ar aqvs miTiTebuli kompaniebi<br />
Sps „mitera” da Sps „bi-esar<br />
_ si-di-ji developmenti”. radganac<br />
„roial develofmenTi” deklaraciebis<br />
Sevsebis Semdeg _ 2014<br />
wlis 20 oqtombers daregistrirda,<br />
amitom, bunebrivia, rom es kompania<br />
verc erT deklaraciaSi ver<br />
aisaxeboda. Sps „bi-es-ar _ si-diji<br />
developmenti” 2006 wlis 17<br />
ivliss aris daregistrirebuli da<br />
misi mesakuTre (100%) Sps „roial<br />
develofmenTia”. radgan „roial<br />
develofmenTi” 2014 wlis 20 oqtombers<br />
daregistrirda, Sesabamisad,<br />
Sps „bi-es-ar _ si-di-ji developmentis”<br />
mesakuTrec aRniSnuli<br />
periodis Semdeg gaxda, oTar<br />
farcxalaZe ki Sps „bi-es-ar _ sidi-ji<br />
developmentis” direqtorad<br />
2016 wlis 3 maiss dainiSna. rac<br />
Seexeba Sps „miteras”, es kompania<br />
2005 wlis 3 ivniss aris daregistrirebuli,<br />
romlis 75%-iani wilis<br />
mflobeli qeTevan cqvitiniZe<br />
(oTar farcxalaZis meuRle) da<br />
25%-iani wilis mflobeli ki Tavad<br />
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oTar farcxalaZe<br />
25%-iani wilis mflobeli<br />
2016 wlidan aris, amitom naTelia,<br />
Tu ratom ar aris es informaciac<br />
deklaraciebSi asaxuli. Sps „roial<br />
develofmenTi” movaleTa reestrSi<br />
registrirebuli ar aris<br />
da politikuri partiebis SemomwirvelTa<br />
siaSic misi wevrebi ar<br />
fiqsirdebian. lev nanikaSvili Sps<br />
„nnn – investis” mewilea (66%) belgiaSi,<br />
oTar farcxalaZe ki Sps<br />
„bodi gardis” mewile, Sps „miteras”<br />
mewile (25%) da Sps „bi-es-ar<br />
_ si-di-ji developmentis” direqtoria.<br />
19 proeqtis Sefasebis Sesaxeb<br />
„saerTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba<br />
_ saqarTvelos” mier amomwuravi<br />
informacia fondis vebgverdze ar<br />
oTar farcxalaZe<br />
iyo. aRniSnuli periodebis Semdeg<br />
ki oTar farcxalaZe Sps „roial<br />
develofmenTTan” saerTod aRar<br />
figurirebs. oTar farcxalaZe<br />
2013 wlis dekembramde mTavari<br />
prokuroris Tanamdebobaze muSaobda,<br />
Semdeg ki biznesSi gadainacvla.<br />
rogorc „gamWvirvalobis” angariSSi<br />
weria, igi, aseve, yofil<br />
premier- ministr biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
ojaxTan daaxloebuli piria.<br />
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STabeWdileba rCeba, rom kompania<br />
„roial develofmenTi” specialurad<br />
am proeqtis ganxorcielebisTvis<br />
Seiqmna. am yvelafridan gamomdinare,<br />
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aviaciis nawilebis kompozituri<br />
qarxnis proeqtTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT garkveuli kiTxvebi arsebobs.<br />
ai, aq mivadeqiT mTavars, magram<br />
vinaidan samoqalaqo aviaciis nawilebis<br />
kompozituri qarxnis proeqti<br />
sxva gamoZiebis Temaa, aq Cven<br />
SevexebiT Sps „miteras” _ oTar<br />
farcxalaZisa da misi colis, qeTevan<br />
cqvitiniZis calke bizness, sakiTxs,<br />
Tu ratom icema laSa Tordia?!<br />
faqtebi ki aseTia: ras swavlobs<br />
samsaxuri? kerZo biznesi xe-<br />
uris ufros Tako kvirtias da „miterasTan”<br />
dakavSirebuli sakiTxebis<br />
garkveva sTxova. kerZod, ramden<br />
tenderSia igi gamarjvebuli?<br />
riT amaragebda da a. S.?<br />
paralelurad, soflis meuruneobis<br />
saministros sursaTis uvneblobis<br />
monitroingis grafaSi<br />
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figurirebs. kerZod, aq igi dafiqsirebulia,<br />
rogorc kaxeTSi arsebuli<br />
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dakavSirebiT sursaTis erovnuli<br />
saagentos sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis<br />
departamentis ufros<br />
Tea SveliZes esaubra, romelmac<br />
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romelic yvela tenderisa<br />
da monitoringis grafaSia<br />
miTiTebuli. davrekeT da mamakacma<br />
gvipasuxa, romelmac gamogvicxada,<br />
rom es nomeri „miterasi” ar<br />
aris da SecdomiTaa miTiTebuli.<br />
Cvens kiTxvaze, _ ki magram, erTgan,<br />
davuSvaT, SeiZleba, SecdomiT iyo<br />
(rac absurdia, sakiTxi tenderebis<br />
monitors exeba), magram yvelgan?<br />
yvela saministroSi?<br />
„qronika+” am nomerSi gTavazobT<br />
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da monitoringis oqmebs, sadac<br />
farcxalaZis ojaxis mediaSi gauxmaurebeli<br />
biznesebia mocemuli.<br />
yvela sajaro uwyeba, visac „qronika+”<br />
daukavSirda, Segvpirda, rom<br />
moiZiebda da mogvwerda „miteras”<br />
Sesaxeb. erT-erTi punqti, romelsac<br />
auditis samsaxuri Caujda,<br />
swored es Tema gaxldaT.<br />
gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi<br />
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me marTla Rirsebis sakiTxad mimaCnia,<br />
rom am kriminalur samyarosTan<br />
Sevide brZolaSi ara „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” gamo, an<br />
raime politikuri partiis gamo,<br />
aramed pirovnuli Rirsebis gamo,<br />
radgan ar minda, Cemi wlinaxevris<br />
Svili, Tqveni Svilebi, maTi Tanatolebi,<br />
aseT qveyanaSi cxovrobdnen.<br />
axlandeli Cvens qveyanaSi er-<br />
Ti ramRa gvaklia, rom gacxadebulad<br />
vicodeT „kanonieri qurdebis”<br />
sacxovrebeli saxlebi, sadac<br />
isini saqmeebs arCeven, danarCeni,<br />
faqtobrivad, kalkiT aris gadmotanili<br />
90-iani wlebidan: dadian es<br />
bandformirebebi, maTi wevrebi<br />
ZvelbiWoben, kavSiri aqvT farcxalaZe-kalaZesTan<br />
da atareben<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” interesebs sxvadasxva<br />
doneze...<br />
iman, rac kurierSi vnaxeT,<br />
farcxalaZesTan Sin Sss-s warmomadgenlebis<br />
stumrobam, kaxa TargamaZe<br />
gamaxsena, romelic kriminalebs<br />
xvdeboda da maSin moxda iq<br />
myofTa Casma manqanaSi zewargadafarebuli<br />
saxiT. farcxalaZis kadrebma<br />
gamaxsena swored es _ samarcxvino<br />
ram xdeba da samarcvinos<br />
Tavi davaneboT, saSiSi tendencia<br />
SeimCneva, rom erT kerZo<br />
pirTan, mafiozTan, baton farcxalaZesTan,<br />
romelic ivaniSvilis<br />
ojaxis imdenad uaxloesi piria,<br />
rom sakuTar Svils farcxalaZem<br />
berac ki daarqva, ai, aseT adamian-<br />
Tan, erT kerZo pirTan saxlSi dadis<br />
mTeli saxelmwifo, mTeli Zalovani<br />
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stitucio cvlilebebis ganxilvis daskvniTi etapis CaSlas da<br />
ambobs, rom msgavsi TemebiT ivaniSvili mTavari sakiTxis miC-<br />
qmalvas ver moaxerxebs.<br />
melia „qronika+”-Tan saubarSi<br />
enm-s gegmebsac amxels da ambobs,<br />
rom ramdenime kviraSi cnobili gaxdeba<br />
im araformaluri kriminaluri<br />
jgufebis mTeli Semadgenloba,<br />
romlebic kalaZisa da farcxalaZis<br />
zedamxedvelobiT iqmneba.<br />
nika melias TqmiT, enm sazogadoebasTan<br />
Sexvedrebs gaaaqtiurebs<br />
da yvela Rones ixmars, raTa maT<br />
dainaxon, ras uqadis qveyanas araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba da<br />
„qurduli samyaros” romantizacia-esTetizacia:<br />
„ra Tqma unda, gadafarvaa da es<br />
ikiTxeba, vinaidan es aprobirebuli<br />
meTodia „qarTuli ocnebis”,<br />
rom problema, romelSic gaxveulia<br />
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sxvadasxva sakiTxiT da amis<br />
dasamtkiceblad araerTi magali-<br />
Tis moyvana SeiZleba.<br />
magram is sakiTxi, romelic axla<br />
dgas farcxalaZesTan mimarTebiT<br />
da, zogadad, „qarTul ocnebasTan”<br />
mimarTebiT, Tavisi korufciuli<br />
SigTavsiT, politikuri<br />
midgomebiT Zalian mZime SemTxvevaa,<br />
_ mTeli administraciuli<br />
organoa CarTuli, mTeli biurokratiaa<br />
CarTuli, rom gadafaron<br />
da rom farcxalaZem milionebi iSovos<br />
yovelTviurad. amas veranairi<br />
sxva SemTxveva ver gadafaravs,<br />
amitom Zalian cudi mcdelobaa,<br />
magram is faqtic, rom amas xelisufleba<br />
cdilobs, aranakleb mZimea.<br />
imis nacvlad, rom realuri<br />
gamoZieba daiwyos, xelisuflebas<br />
mTeli struqturebi hyavs mobilizebuli,<br />
rom gadafaros da gamoaZvrinos<br />
ramenairad Tavisi erTerTi<br />
Crdilovani mmarTveli.<br />
es kargad gviCvenebs, ra xelisufleba<br />
gvyavs da xelisufleba, saerTod,<br />
ar gvyavs, _ Cven gvyavs araformaluri<br />
mmarTvelebi yvela<br />
sferoSi. biZina ivaniSvili aris<br />
saTaveSi da qveda doneze aris ramdenime<br />
sxva araformaluri mmarTveli.<br />
erT-erTi aris batoni farcxalaZe,<br />
romelic araformalurad<br />
kurirebs mTel Zalovan struqturebs<br />
Tavisi Zalovani ministrebiT<br />
da paralelurad eweva bizness.<br />
praqtikulad, yvela saxelmwifo<br />
struqturaSi mas Tavisi kadri<br />
hyavs daniSnuli, rogoricaa prokuraturaSi<br />
SoTaZe, romelic, ubralod,<br />
farcxalaZis gavlenis qve-<br />
Saa, batoni badaSvili, romelic<br />
finansur policiaSia da a. S., biznesinteresebi<br />
ki vnaxeT 2016 wlis<br />
25 noembers, roca 13 wuTSi sajaro<br />
reestrma milionobiT qoneba<br />
dauregistrira baton farcxalaZes.<br />
aseve Zalian mZime SemTxvevaa,<br />
gansakuTrebiT TbilisSi da Tbilisis<br />
ubnebSi, radgan batoni farcxalaZe<br />
realurad udgas saTaveSi<br />
kalaZesTan erTad yvela araformalur<br />
dajgufebas, romelSic gaerTianebulebi<br />
arian kunTmagari<br />
moZalade pirebi. es iqneba sabur-<br />
Talo, gldani, naZaladevi, Tu sxva<br />
ubnebi. maTi mizania, rom yvela is<br />
adamiani, romelic winaaRmdegoba-<br />
Si mova „qarTuli ocnebis” interesebTan,<br />
Seaviwroon rogorc quCa-<br />
Si, aseve sxvadasxva dawesebuleba-<br />
Si da amis Sesaxeb „nacionaluri<br />
moZroba” da me piradad, sul cota<br />
xanSi, vapirebT, sazogadoebas konkretulad<br />
gavacnoT is pirebi,<br />
romlebic farcxalaZis am danaSaulebriv<br />
qmedebaSi mokavSireebi<br />
arian.<br />
rTuli mdgomareobaa, gansaku-<br />
TrebiT, TbilisSi, magram ara marto<br />
aq: realurad, sadac uWirs,<br />
xelisufleba yvelgan ixmobs kriminalebs.<br />
uWirT maT dedaqalaqis<br />
sakrebuloSi, sadac midis meri? _<br />
ixmoben kriminalebs da ramdenime<br />
kviris win metaSeebi vnaxeT; uWirs<br />
xelisuflebas sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT?<br />
_ vnaxeT, rogor uswordebian<br />
kriminalurad Ss ministris<br />
moadgiles, generaluri auditis<br />
samsaxuris xelmZRvanels Suagul<br />
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TbilisSi, mxolod imitom, rom<br />
rogorc gairkva, Tordias dokumentebi<br />
aqvs, romelic baton farcxalaZes<br />
korufciaSi amxels. gavixsenoT<br />
korcxeli, sadac xelisufleba<br />
am kunTmagari kriminalebiT<br />
politikosebs daupirispirda da<br />
mere araTu ar dasaja, daawinaura<br />
kidec isini...<br />
Cven ar varT Cabmuli orTabrZolaSi<br />
„qarTul ocnebasTan”.<br />
mimaCnia, rom es ar aris brZola<br />
politikur gaerTianebasTan. CvenTvis,<br />
opoziciisTvis, ar aris oponenti<br />
„qarTuli ocneba” da iq<br />
Tvalis asaxvevad ramdenime politikosis<br />
saxe _ volski Tu beselia.<br />
Cveni opozicia dRes arian kriminalebi<br />
_ farcxalaZe, kalaZe da<br />
maT mier Seqmnili bandformirebebi.<br />
diax, Cven, ganaxlebuli „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba”, yvelafers gavakeTebT,<br />
rom es qveyana sabolood<br />
xelSi ar CavugdoT kriminalebs.<br />
biZina ivaniSvils surs, qveyana<br />
marTos daSinebiT da damonebiT.<br />
„nacionaluri moZraoba”, rogorc<br />
mTavari opoziciuri Zala, diax,<br />
iRebs am gamowvevas da yvelafers<br />
gaakeTebs da srul brZolaSi apirebs<br />
Sesvlas. araformaluri dajgufebebis<br />
yvela kriminalis saxeli<br />
da gvari TanmimdevrobiT<br />
dasaxeldeba.<br />
Cven gvaxsovs gasuli saukunis<br />
90-iani wlebi... namdvilad ar minda,<br />
Tbilisis centraluri ubnebi<br />
da ara mxolod centraluri ubnebi<br />
da ara mxolod Tbilisi, sxva<br />
qalaqebic, kriminalebis kontrolqveS<br />
moeqces. me piradad Cems megobrebTan<br />
erTad yvelafers gavakeTeb,<br />
gavimeore, rom Sevakvdebi,<br />
radgan faqtia, praqtikulad, yvela<br />
sferos kalaZe-farcxalaZis<br />
bandformirebebi Semoasxdnen...<br />
rac Seexeba ivaniSvils, is ara<br />
mxolod mZevalia, ivaniSvili mSvenivrad<br />
acnobierebs, rom ganvi-<br />
Tarebasa da winsvlaze dayrdnobiT<br />
ver SeinarCunebs xelisuflebas<br />
martivi mizeziT, imitom rom<br />
verc erTs ver vxedavT: verc ganviTarebas<br />
da verc progress. metic:<br />
xalxma ukeTesi xvalindeli<br />
dRis rwmena dakarga da aseT pirobebSi,<br />
ra Tqma unda, nebismieri<br />
formaluri Tu araformaluri<br />
mmarTveli kargavs Zalauflebas,<br />
imitom rom es aris qveyana, sadac<br />
sxvadasxva dros, sxvadasxva xelisufleba<br />
aurCevia sazogadoebas,<br />
magram sazogadoebasve gadaurCevia.<br />
ivaniSvils, rogorc Cans, Zalian<br />
kargad moexseneba sazogadoebis<br />
ganwyoba da cdilobs, Zveli biWebis,<br />
kriminalebis, bandformirebebis<br />
meSveobiT danergos SiSi, raTa<br />
gaixangrZlivos araformaluri<br />
mmarTvelis rangSi yofna, magram<br />
mas es ar gamouva...<br />
ar gamouva romantizacia da<br />
esteTizacia am qurduli gagebisa,<br />
rac SeimCneva TbilisSi... aba, gaviaroT<br />
quCebSi, vnaxoT rogoria<br />
Ramis Tbilisi, vnaxoT yoveldRe<br />
ramdeni adamiania dayaCaRebuli da<br />
ramdeni adamiani aris represiebSi<br />
moyolili am bandformirebebis<br />
mxridan, ramdeni hyavT daSinebuli<br />
ise, rom ver bedaven sajarod<br />
saubars.<br />
me vici ramdenime SemTxveva,<br />
rogor gausworda es araformaluri<br />
dajgufeba, kalaZe-farcxalaZis<br />
meTaurobiT, ramdenime adamians.<br />
ar dagimalavT da maTTan<br />
kavSiri maqvs, magram, jerjerobiT,<br />
amis sajarod gacxadebas ver bedaven,<br />
magram Zalian male mova<br />
dro, roca yvelaferze sajarod<br />
isaubreben.<br />
Zalian bevri ram sazogadoebisTvis<br />
xilulia, bevri ram ki jer<br />
ar aris xiluli da sanam marTlac<br />
mTeli qveyana moicva am bandformirebebma,<br />
Cemi azriT, yvela opoziciuri<br />
partiis lideris Rirsebis<br />
sakiTxia, rom win aRvudgeT am<br />
kriminalebis TareSs, radgan Tbilisi<br />
ver iqneba e. w. Zveli biWebis,<br />
Tbilisi ver iqneba bandformirebebis<br />
da Tbilisi ver iqneba kriminalebis<br />
samoqmedo teritoria...<br />
vimeoreb: es Cven vnaxeT 90-iani<br />
wlebis saqarTveloSi da maSin Zalian<br />
Zvirad daujda saxelmwifos<br />
is wlebi, magram vfiqrob, ivaniSvilma<br />
isic Zalian kargad icis,<br />
rogor SeinarCuna xelisufleba<br />
maSin wlebis manZilze SevardnaZem<br />
_ kriminalebis meSveobiT _ da<br />
cdilobs, es taqtika da strategia<br />
gaimeoros, magram „nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba” imdenad Zlieri<br />
politikuri gaerTianebaa, rom mas<br />
namdvilad ZaluZs, es ganzraxva<br />
ivaniSvils sisruleSi ar moayvaninos<br />
da Cven namdvilad vacnobierebT,<br />
rom nomer pirveli gamowveva<br />
dRes, totalur umuSevrobasTan,<br />
gausaZlis siRatakesTan erTad<br />
aris kriminaluri Savi samyaro da<br />
nika melia:<br />
`qveyanaSi<br />
arsebobs<br />
danaSaulebrivi<br />
sindikati,<br />
romelsac<br />
saTaveSi<br />
farcxalaZekalaZe<br />
udgas!~<br />
cxalaZesTan saxlSi imisTvis, rom<br />
kontrzomebi daegegmaT Tordias<br />
winaaRmdeg, arada, arsebobs myari<br />
safuZveli, rom batoni farcxalaZe<br />
pasuxisgebaSi mieces, magram<br />
vin miscems mas pasuxisgebaSi, sakuTar<br />
Tavs xom ar gaasamarTlebs?<br />
am xelisuflebas surs, normad<br />
aqcios, rom kriminal, mafioz, danaSaulSi<br />
eWvmitanil baton farcxalaZes<br />
Ss saministrodan maRalCinosnebi<br />
saxlSi akiTxavdnen, amitom<br />
naTelia is gamowveva, romelic<br />
enm-m miiRo: diax, yvela sofelsa<br />
da qalaqSi, dabaSi unda viroT da<br />
xalxs avuxsnaT, vin aris batoni<br />
ivaniSvili, romelic Zalian cdilobs,<br />
Tavi damalos am uaryofiTi<br />
procesebisgan da ar gamoCndes sajarod.<br />
sazogadoebis nawils ivaniSvilis<br />
arseboba aviwydeba<br />
da periodulad<br />
Tu Seaxsenebs<br />
misi xe, romelic<br />
zRvaze tivtivebs<br />
da axsendeba,<br />
rom am procesebis<br />
mmarTveli<br />
ivaniSvilia.<br />
sxva mxriv, ivaniSvili<br />
cdilobs, am<br />
procesebidan gverdiT<br />
gadges da<br />
CrdilSi iyos. yvela<br />
adamians, vinc<br />
am qveyanaSi cxovrobs,<br />
gvinda SevaxsenoT,<br />
rom ver<br />
iqneba farcxala-<br />
Ze, Tu ar iqneba<br />
ivaniSvili, ver iqneba<br />
kalaZe, Tu ar<br />
iqneba ivaniSvili<br />
da yvelafris Tavi<br />
da Tavi, alfa<br />
da omega, aris ivaniSvili<br />
da ara batoni<br />
parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare kobaxiZe,<br />
an volski<br />
an beselia Tu sergeenko.<br />
arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
nawilisgan Cven vnaxeT da movismineT<br />
sagamoZiebo komisiis Seqmnis<br />
moTxovna. ki batono, Cven vuerTdebiT<br />
am moTxovnas, magram gana,<br />
saWiroa saparlamento komisiis<br />
Seqmna, roca saxezea da gamokveTilia<br />
moZaladeTa jgufi da msxverpli?<br />
gana, viTxovT saparlamento<br />
sagamoZiebo komisiis Seqmnas, roca<br />
cecxlsasroli iaraRiT erTi piri<br />
quCaSi daWris meores, an vinme<br />
banks daayaCaRebs? xom faqtia, rom<br />
aseT dros damnaSaves akaveben? magram,<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, vin daakavebs<br />
farcxalaZes, _ ivaniSvili da<br />
kalaZe daadeben borkilebs?<br />
mogexsenebaT, sasamarTlo,<br />
roca winaswari patimrobis gadawyvetileba<br />
gamoaqvs, bevr detals<br />
Soris xSirad imasac asaxelebs mizezad,<br />
rom gareT yofnis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
SesaZloa, braldebulma pirma<br />
gavlena moaxdinos mowmeebze da<br />
am SemTxvevaSi ras vxedavT? imas,<br />
rom farcxalaZe araTu gavlenas<br />
axdens mowmeebze, praqtikulad,<br />
Tavad awarmoebs gamoZiebas...<br />
kidev erTxel vambob: enm-s mTavari<br />
Zalisxmeva mimarTuli iqneba<br />
iqiTken, rom vamxiloT da gamovaaSkaravoT<br />
is danaSaulebrivi<br />
sindikati, romelic qveyanaSi arsebobs<br />
farcxalaZe-kalaZis TavkacobiT<br />
da uaxloes periodSi, saxelobiTi<br />
siiT, yvela gaigebs am<br />
danaSaulebrivi da kriminaluri<br />
dajgufebebis wevrTa vinaobas...<br />
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aqedan ganviTarda. sxvaTa<br />
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jondi baRaTuria _ „qarTu-<br />
li dasi”:<br />
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nebis ugulebelyofa,<br />
magram isic gasaTvaliswinebelia,<br />
rom am xazma unda gaiaros<br />
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winaaRmdegebi ar unda<br />
viyoT mosaxleobis intersebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebis fonze. isic<br />
calsaxaa, rom Cven uars ver vityviT<br />
aseT ganviTarebaze, magram<br />
mosaxleobis azri gonivrul<br />
farglebSi unda iyos gaTvaliwinebuli<br />
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ra Tqma unda, droTa ganmavlobaSi,<br />
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saSinao, ekonomikur Tu socialur<br />
politikas, damokidebulebas<br />
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lideric iyos sazogadoebisTvis<br />
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masobriv protestSi?!<br />
misaRebi, magram Zalis komponents<br />
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lokaluri ukmayofilebebi<br />
aseTi xasiaTisaa.<br />
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fronti”:<br />
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mosaxleobas axla mTelma saqar-<br />
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ruseTis agenturuli samsaxuris<br />
motiviT Seni sakuTari mosaxleoba<br />
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wminda agenturuli nabiji. Cemi<br />
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ar maxsovs, rom saflavebi gadaeTxaroT<br />
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me maxsovs axlandeli<br />
parlamentis Senobas rom aSenebdnen,<br />
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xelisuflebas Tavze lafis gadasxma<br />
ar aklia, amiT maTi prestiJi<br />
kidev ufro metad daecema<br />
nuls qvemoT.<br />
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ganaxorcielos, magram kanonis<br />
sruli dacviT da, ra Tqma unda,<br />
axsnaganmartebiTi muSaoba mosaxleobasTan<br />
yovelTvis winswrebiT<br />
aris aucilebeli. ganvi-<br />
Tarebul qveynebSi yovelTvis<br />
miRebulia zomebi, rom mosaxleobam<br />
finansurad Tu fizikurad<br />
ar izaralos. magaliTad, rodesac<br />
saqme exeba saflavebis gaTxras,<br />
CemTvis cnobilia SemTxvevebi,<br />
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klubs ufro meti biujeti aqvs,<br />
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xvdeba, medikosebisTvis<br />
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ase dgas...<br />
SuSis sasaxleSi, jer kidev,<br />
Semodgomidan gadawyvetiT ician,<br />
rom gogaSvili raRac formiT<br />
unda gaaneitralon, mSvidad<br />
moiSoron da saxelmwifo<br />
usafrTxoebas Camoacilon, ma-<br />
laferi misi survilis winaaRmdeg<br />
xdeba, rac imis niSania, rom<br />
gogaSvili agoniaSia...<br />
sosos agonia<br />
agoniaSi Cavardnili kacis<br />
zne da xasiaTi ki aseTia: brZola<br />
_ sikvdiliswina da sulTmobrZavis<br />
mdgomareoba. Tu gogaSvili<br />
sus-Si karieras daasrulebs,<br />
es imas niSnavs, rom<br />
misi karieruli momavali iq ukve<br />
SeCerebulia, magram daqoqi-<br />
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ocxliT savse adamianebma ki<br />
yvelaze ukeT ician, Tu ra aris<br />
apaTia. mizezi Zalian martivia,<br />
vinaidan isini miCveulebi arian<br />
aqtiur cxovrebas, energiis<br />
miRebas da gacemas, xolo roca<br />
cxovreba maT ar aZlevs Cveul<br />
sixarulsa da xaliss, isini realurad<br />
grZnoben, Tu ra aris<br />
apaTia. amaSi gasakviri araferia:<br />
mZime stresi, cxovrebis<br />
qaosuri tempi, movlenebi, romlebic<br />
Zalian swrafad viTardeba,<br />
yvelaferi erTad grovdeba<br />
da iwvevs depresiasa da<br />
apaTias. adamians, romelsac<br />
aReniSneba apaTiis niSnebi, mas<br />
araferi ar unda, yvelafris<br />
mimarT gulgrilia, im saqmeebsac<br />
ki, romelTa gakeTebas mcire<br />
dro sWirdeba, xSrad mTel,<br />
aqvs, rom sxvebisTvis sasargeblo<br />
iyos. es SeiZleba erTgvari<br />
niSani iyos sulisa sxeulis<br />
mimarT, rom is mudmivad<br />
iRebs, rac unda, ikmayofilebs<br />
moTxovnebs, Tumca sxvebisTvis<br />
sikeTe ar moaqvs. es erTgvari<br />
TviTlikvidaciis niSaniviTaa.<br />
sosos abulia<br />
unebisyofoba, nebisyofis<br />
paTologiuri sisuste. soso<br />
axla abuliaSia. arsebobs daavadeba<br />
abulia, roca gadawyvetilebis<br />
miReba metad uWirT,<br />
Tu rogor moiqcnen, xan erT<br />
mxares ixrebian, xan _ meores.<br />
mohyavT argumentebi ama Tu im<br />
mimarTulebiT, magram saboloo<br />
daskvnas mainc ver ake-<br />
Teben. yoymani gadawyvetileb-<br />
jva, gamoxmaureba „qronika+”-<br />
is mimarT swored sosos abuliis<br />
TvalsaCino nimuSi aRmoCnda.<br />
nebisyofa mizandasaxuli xasiaTis,<br />
gacnobierebuli, ganzraxuli<br />
moqmedebaa. subieqti<br />
winaswar isaxavs moqmedebis mizans,<br />
awon-dawonis, afasebs mis<br />
Rirebulebas da am Sefasebis<br />
safuZvelze gadawyvets garkveuli<br />
moqmedebis Sesrulebas.<br />
nebisyofis aqtis Sesasruleblad<br />
adamianma sakuTari Tavi<br />
unda gamohyos garesamyarosgan<br />
da garkveuli azriT daupirispiros<br />
igi Tavis Tavs _ moaxdinos<br />
misi obieqtivaciac da<br />
uSualod mocemuli situaciis<br />
mimarT miaRwios garkveul<br />
Tavisuflebas _ anu daeuflos<br />
sosos agonia,<br />
apaTia da<br />
abulia...<br />
gram radgan Tavad gogaSvili<br />
araprognozirebadad miaCniaT,<br />
amitom cota uxerxul situaciaSi<br />
vardebian da sakuTar<br />
gadawyvetilebas ase myisierad<br />
ver iReben.<br />
moqalaqes uTqvams, mokled<br />
moWram sisxli icis da axla<br />
gaRizianebis arc droa da arc<br />
imis saWiroeba, rom kilaZes<br />
vaTqmevinoT, rogorc iqna,<br />
damijereT, batono biZinao?!<br />
amitom gogaSvili sxva uwyebisTvis<br />
unda gaxdes upriani, magaliTad,<br />
kargi iqneba, Tu TavdacvaSi<br />
izorias moadgiled<br />
vixilavT. SesaZloa, ministrs<br />
erTi moadgilis adgili daumaton,<br />
an meore variantiT zaal<br />
kapanaZes, an nukri gelaSvils<br />
Caunacvlon soso...<br />
rogor Seegueba an egueba am<br />
gadawyvetilebas gogaSvili?!<br />
faqtia, bolo periodSi yve-<br />
li matareblis gaCereba rom<br />
SeuZlebelia, es cxadia. yvela<br />
SemTxvevaSi matarebeli zemo<br />
maCxaanisken midis da, ubralod,<br />
gezs ar icvlis...<br />
sosos apaTia<br />
bolo periodSi gogaSvils<br />
zomierze metad ugrZnobloba<br />
dasCemda, yvelafrisadmi gulgrilia,<br />
uinteresoa, uxalisoa.<br />
misi erTaderTi safiqrali<br />
„qronika+”-is diskreditaciaa,<br />
mis mier gonivrulad gamoZiebuli<br />
saqmeebi warsuls Cabarda.<br />
Tumca Secdomebis daSvebis<br />
xelovani rom aris, es cxadi<br />
gaxda. daviT xarSilaZis dakavebis<br />
scenam yvela miTi daangria<br />
gogaSvilis siWkvianesa da<br />
sibrZneze.<br />
biografma xom yvelaferi<br />
unda icodes da, ai, aseTia axla<br />
sosos roli dedamiwaze, sic-<br />
an ramdenime dRes andomebs.<br />
aseTi damokidebulebis xangr-<br />
Zlivi droiT gagrZeleba Zalian<br />
saSiSia, radgan garkveul<br />
situaciebSi aseTi adamianebi<br />
suicidisken midrekilebi arian.<br />
amitomac apaTia sanam ufro<br />
rTul etapze gadava, saWiroa<br />
misi maleve damarcxeba.<br />
soso, kargi iqneba, Tu dRis<br />
bolos aucileblad dausvamT<br />
sakuTar Tavs ramdenime kiTxvas:<br />
pirvel rigSi, Tu ra gaakeTeT<br />
Tqveni TavisTvis sasiamovno<br />
da sasargeblo? aseve gaaanalizebT,<br />
gaakeTeT Tu ara<br />
rame garSemomyofebisTvis? dafiqrdiT,<br />
ratom imyofebiT konkretul<br />
dros konkretul adgilas?<br />
am kiTxvebze pasuxi maSinve<br />
naTels mohfens mTel situacias.<br />
xSirad apaTias aseve<br />
iwvevs „keTili saqmeebis deficiti”.<br />
adamians moTxovnileba<br />
is miRebisas, met-naklebad, yvelas<br />
axasiaTebs, magram abuliis<br />
dros es avadmyofur xasiaTs<br />
iRebs. verafriT axerxeben,<br />
raime arCevani gaakeTon. adamiani<br />
garemos ara mxolod aRiqvams,<br />
warmoidgens, an emociurad<br />
ganicdis mis gavlenas,<br />
aramed mis mimarT gakveul aqtivobasac<br />
iCens. aqtivoba yoveli<br />
cocxali organizmis damaxasiaTebeli<br />
Tvisebaa, magram<br />
adamians, cxovelisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
aqtivobis iseTi specifikuri<br />
formebi axasiaTebs,<br />
romlebic cxovelisTvis miuwvdomelia.<br />
erT-erTi aseTi<br />
Tvisebaa ne-bis-yo-fa. gogaSvilis<br />
unebisyofobis TvalsaCino<br />
nimuSi misive dakveTili statiebi<br />
aRmoCnda. man ver SeZlo<br />
sakuTar miwebsa da ojaxuri<br />
qorwilebis fotoebze moTminebiTa<br />
da nebisyofiT gaemar-<br />
Tavis moqmedebas da, survilisamebr,<br />
marTos igi. magram<br />
nebisyofis Tavisufleba ar<br />
niSnavs mis srul indeterminacias<br />
_ nebisyofis Tavisufleba<br />
mdgomareobs uSualo situaciisgan<br />
damoukideblobaSi.<br />
SuSis sasaxlis binadars Zalian<br />
uyvars samedicino mecniereba,<br />
amavdroulad, man zustad<br />
icis adamianTa fsiqoportretebi.<br />
Sesabamisad, ivaniSvilisTvis<br />
agoniaSi, apaTiasa<br />
da abuliaSi myofi adamianebi<br />
misaRebebi veRar xdebian<br />
***<br />
ra elis sosos? male vnaxavT,<br />
Zalian male.<br />
P. S. Seni janmrTelobis is-<br />
toriis SedgenaRa aklia Sens<br />
biografias, soso...<br />
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daviT xarSilaZis gverdi<br />
#araCadebas!<br />
2017 wlis 13 marts daviT xarSilaZe<br />
eliso kilaZe<br />
policiuri sadamsjelo manqanis msx-<br />
599 17 12 12<br />
verpli mxolod imis gamo gaxda, rom<br />
me, „qronika+”-is damfuZnebeli da<br />
mTavari redaqtori, wlebis ganmavlobaSi vamxel Zalovan uwye-<br />
baSi mokalaTebul zonderebs, jalaTebs, arakeTilsindisier,<br />
korumpirebul TanamSromlebs.<br />
sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi mxolod ori policielis Cveneba<br />
devs, maSin, roca Cemi Svilis dakavebis adgilas, minimum, 12 policieli<br />
imyofeboda, maT Soris, Sinagan saqmeTa saministros ma-<br />
RalCinosani ramaz TaraSvili, romelic piradad xelmZRvanelob-<br />
da daviT xarSilaZisTvis narkotikebis Cadebis specoperacias.<br />
es gverdi „qronika+”-Si iarsebebs manam, sanam Cemi Svili patimari<br />
iqneba. marTalia, am adamianebs yvelaze naklebad awuxebT sindisi<br />
da morali, magram sazogadoeba unda icnobdes CamdebTa briga-<br />
das, romlis kiserzec araerTi udanaSaulo adamianis codvaa.<br />
vin aris ramaz TaraSvili?<br />
is Sinagan saqmeTa saministro-<br />
Si yofili premieris, irakli RaribaSvilis<br />
simamris, Tamaz TamazaSvilis<br />
rekomendaciiT dainiSna.<br />
„qronika+”-is wyaro ambobs,<br />
rom Tanamdebobaze daniSvnaSi<br />
man 50 000 $ gadaixada. mogexsenebaT,<br />
narkotikebis realizacia<br />
TamazaSvilis eqskluzivia. swored<br />
man aawyo TargamaZis dros<br />
cnobili narkotrasa pankisSi.<br />
ramaz TaraSvili, metsaxelad<br />
„Stanga”, TamazaSvilisTvis komfortuli<br />
Tanamdebobis piria.<br />
imis magivrad, rom narkotikebis<br />
ukanono brunvas ebrZodes da<br />
narkorealizatorebis gamovleniT<br />
iyos dakavebuli, TaraSvili<br />
barigebs „kriSavs” da am umoqmedobis<br />
sanacvlod soliduri raodenobis<br />
wilsac iRebs. ramaz<br />
TaraSvili piradad imyofeboda<br />
daviT xarSilaZis dakavebis adgilas,<br />
misi avtomanqanidan is narkotikebi<br />
amoiRes, romelic<br />
zurab vasaZem Cems Svils qurTukis<br />
jibeSi Caudo. ramaz TaraSvili<br />
amtkicebs, rom Tbilisis<br />
meriaSi saqmeze imyofeboda da<br />
daviT xarSilaZis dakavebis adgilze<br />
Seiara, daxeda, rom specoperacia<br />
mSvidad mimdinareobda<br />
da SemTxvevis adgili datova.<br />
mogvianebiT, daviT xarSilaZis<br />
dakavebis adgilze gadaRebuli<br />
firi gamoCnda, romelic utyuarad<br />
adasturebs, rom ramaz<br />
TaraSvilis avtomanqana bolo<br />
tovebs Cemi Svilis dakavebis<br />
adgils.<br />
kukuri wivwivaZe _<br />
metsaxelad „biZiniCi”<br />
iyo dro, roca kukuri wivwivaZe<br />
vano merabiSvilis sadRegr-<br />
Zelos skamze damdgari svamda. is<br />
im kategoriis policielebs miekuTvneba,<br />
yvela davalebis Sesrulebaze<br />
rom Tanaxmani arian da<br />
nebismier sibinZureze aweren<br />
xels. mas metsaxelad „biZiniCs”<br />
imis gamo eZaxdnen, rom biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis biZaSvilis, qeTevan<br />
ivaniSvilis siZe gaxldaT. yvelasTvis<br />
moulodnelad, „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />
Semdeg, „biZiniCma” Tanam-<br />
Sromlebs „pravebis kaCavi” dauwyo.<br />
igi imdenad amazrzenad iqceoda,<br />
rom gvarianad miiJeJa kidec<br />
_ Zvali da rbili gauer-<br />
Tianes, ise scemes. maleve kukuri<br />
wivwivaZe TbilisSi gadmoiyvanes<br />
da mosmenebze daawyebines<br />
muSaoba. „biZiniCi” amtkicebs, _<br />
swored man, lika ivaniSvilis<br />
(eqs) qmarma, operatiuli informacia<br />
miiRo, rom daviT xarSilaZe<br />
13 marts aucileblad iqneboda<br />
boWoriSvilis quCaze da<br />
mas Tan aucileblad eqneboda<br />
didi odenobiT narkotikuli<br />
nivTiereba maSin, roca Cemma<br />
Svilmac ki ar icoda, rom bo-<br />
WoriSvilis quCaze moxvdeboda.<br />
valerian CibiraSvili, zurab<br />
qumelaSvili da zaqaria vasaZe<br />
daviT xarSilaZis winaaRmdeg Catarebuli<br />
policiuri sadamsjelo<br />
operaciis uSualo Semsruleblebi<br />
arian. zaqaria vasaZe<br />
iyo is piri, romelmac rezinis<br />
momwvano xelTaTmanebi gaikeTa,<br />
ramaz TaraSvilis manqanidan ori<br />
paketi fxvnili gadmoitana da<br />
Cems Svils qurTukis jibeSi Caudo.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, Cemi Svilis<br />
qurTuki, romelic, wesiT, erTerTi<br />
mTavari nivTmtkiceba unda<br />
yofiliyo, policielebma moipares<br />
da dRemde gaurkvevel vi-<br />
TarebaSi inaxeba.<br />
valerian CibiraSvili am gaugonari<br />
sadamsjelo operaciis<br />
mowmea. is adasturebs, rom dakavebis<br />
adgilze imyofeboda. CibiraSvilisa<br />
da vasaZis Cvenebebi<br />
wertil-mZimiT hgavs erTmaneTs,<br />
magram arc erTi maTgani ar ambobs,<br />
rom SemTxvevis adgilas kidev<br />
ramdenime policieli imyofeboda.<br />
metic, swored CibiraSvils<br />
uTxra dakavebis Semdeg policiis<br />
SenobaSi miyvanilma Cemma<br />
Svilma, _ es ori paketi fxvnili<br />
saidan moitaneT, subuteqsi<br />
mainc CagedoTo. am uwyinari xumrobis<br />
mere erTi paketi fxvnili<br />
subuteqsis abebiT Secvales.<br />
rac Seexeba zurab qumelaSvils,<br />
is am dromde uSedegod<br />
cdilobs, rogorme „gaapravos”<br />
es gaugonari danaSauli. imdeni<br />
sisulele aqvs Cawerili Cxrekisa<br />
da dakavebis oqmSi, normalur<br />
qveyanaSi da normaluri xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSi zurab qumelaSvili<br />
karga xnis CamoSorebuli<br />
iqneboda samsaxurs da Tanamdebobrivi<br />
uflebamosilebis gada-<br />
Warbebis gamo cixeSic ijdeboda.<br />
rom ara mowme Sorena laliaS-<br />
vefxia lomiZe<br />
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gldanis sapyrobile. sakani N 78.<br />
vili da mis mier Cemi Svilis dakavebis<br />
adgilze gadaRebuli firi,<br />
am dromde aravis ecodineboda<br />
im pirebis vinaoba, romlebic<br />
valerian CibiraSvilTan, zurab<br />
vasaZesTan da zurab qumelaSvilTan<br />
erTad daviT xarSilaZis<br />
dakavebis adgilze imyofebodnen.<br />
arCil oqruaSvili, mixeil<br />
CiviaSvili da aleqsi koberiZe<br />
dReis mdgomareobiT swored<br />
dakavebis adgilze gadaRebuli<br />
firis wyalobiT moxda am policielebis<br />
identifikacia. maTi<br />
fotosuraTebis gasajaroebis<br />
Semdeg Cemma Svilma sakuTari<br />
dakavebis detalebi gaixsena.<br />
samive maTganma daviT xarSilaZis<br />
mimarT dakavebisas araproporciuli<br />
Zala gamoiyena: is<br />
scmes, Caumtvries kbilebi, Tavze<br />
sakuTari sportuli zedis kapiu-<br />
Soni wamoaxures da mxedveloba<br />
SeuzRudes, nacemi asfaltze daagdes.<br />
swored am dros zurab<br />
vasaZem mas qurTukis jibeSi<br />
narkotikebi Caudo. arCil oqruaSvilma<br />
miwaze dagdebul daviT<br />
xarSilaZes sakuTari mobiluri<br />
telefoniT fotoc gadauRo,<br />
romelic, savaraudod, soso gogaSvilisTvis<br />
iyo gankuTvnili.<br />
vin aris arCil oqruaSvili?<br />
arCil oqruaSvili 2000-2002<br />
wlebSi avstriaSi, qalaq venaSi<br />
cxovrobda da maRaziaSi qurdobiT<br />
irCenda Tavs. ramdenjerme<br />
iyo qurdobaze dakavebulic.<br />
erTi periodi, amis gamo, adeportebdnen<br />
kidec da kbilebiT venaze<br />
xorci amoiglija. swored<br />
amis gamo gadaurCa deports. am<br />
faqtis Semdeg arCil oqruaSvili<br />
avstriaSi tansacmlis qurdobaze<br />
kidev ramdenjerme daakaves<br />
da, sabolood, daadeportes<br />
kidec. tansacmlis qurdi rogor<br />
aRmoCnda policiaSi? visi rekomendaciiT?<br />
faqti erTia: adamiani, romelic<br />
tansacmlis qurdobas ar Takilobda,<br />
arc sxva binZuri davalebis<br />
Sesrulebaze ityvis uars.<br />
dadgeba dro da arCil oqruaSvils<br />
aucileblad mouwevs pasuxismgebloba<br />
imaze, rac Cems<br />
SvilTan dakavSirebiT Caidina!<br />
darwmunebuli var, arc kalams<br />
gaagdebs xelidan da wvrilad<br />
moyveba, vin iyo misi damkveTi da<br />
davalebis mimcemi, iseve rogorc<br />
mixeil CiviaSvilic. es ukanaskneli<br />
Zalian cdilobda zegavlenis<br />
moxdenas eqspertze, romelmac<br />
Cems Svils narkologiuri eqspertiza<br />
Cautara. 9-jer erTi da<br />
igive analizis Catarebisas narkotesti<br />
sufTa iyo. gayalbeba imis<br />
gamo ver moxerxda, rom narkotestirebas<br />
adgilze eswreboda<br />
saxalxo damcvelis warmomadgeneli,<br />
advokati da prokurori.<br />
swored amitom mixeil CiviaSvili<br />
eqspertis misamarTiT<br />
mxolod miTiTebebiT da gakvirvebiT<br />
Semoifargla, _ rogor,<br />
bioc ar amouvida? es miniSneba<br />
imitom sWirdebodaT, rom narkotiki,<br />
romelic Cems Svils dakavebis<br />
adgilas Caudes, e. w. bio iyo<br />
da mxolod mogvianebiT Secvales<br />
erTi paketi fxvnili subuteqsis<br />
abebiT. swored amis Semdeg, rac<br />
arc klinikurad da arc testirebiT<br />
daviT xarSilaZes narkotikuli<br />
Troba ar daudginda,<br />
ratomRac eqspertma gadawyvita,<br />
damatebiT laboratoriuli kvleva<br />
iqve, gverdiT oTaxSi Caetarebina<br />
da axla gveubneba, rom laboratoriuli<br />
kvlevisas e. w. buprenorfinis<br />
moxmareba daudginda.<br />
anu zustad im abebs daamTxvies,<br />
romelic Cems Svils Caudes.<br />
zaza reviSvili<br />
kidev erTi policieli, romelsac<br />
mRebriSvilis uwyeba Cemi<br />
Svilis winaaRmdeg Worebis gamavrceleblad<br />
iyenebs, samtredieli<br />
zaza reviSvilia. reviSvili<br />
mis Zvel nacnobebs RmerTisa da<br />
kanonis saxeliT umtkicebs, rom<br />
im biWebma danaSauli aRkveTes da<br />
qeTevan jaWvaZe<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
damnaSave daakaves. morali da<br />
zneoba zaza reviSvilma, jer kidev,<br />
maSin dakarga, roca rkinigzis<br />
sadgurze vagonidan nasvam mdgomareobaSi<br />
myofi piri Camosves, is<br />
gaCxrikes da swored reviSvilma<br />
safulidan fuli mopara. am faqtis<br />
gamo zaza reviSvili policiidan<br />
gaagdes. „ocnebis” mier samsaxurSi<br />
aRdgenili reviSvili,<br />
bunebrivia, yvela binZuri davalebis<br />
Sesrulebaze Tanaxmaa. miT<br />
ufro, rom kukuri wivwivaZesTan,<br />
„biZiniCTan” Zveli megobroba<br />
akavSirebs.<br />
vefxia lomiZe da<br />
qeTevan jaWvaZe<br />
calke Temaa Temida da is ori<br />
mosamarTle, romelmac Cems<br />
Svils warbis Seuxrelad gamoutana<br />
verdiqti.<br />
aRkveTis RonisZiebis dros<br />
mosamarTle vefxia lomiZem dacvis<br />
mxaris arc erTi argumenti<br />
ar gaiTvaliswina. dakavebisa da<br />
Cxrekis oqmebis uzustobebs, maT<br />
Soris, droSi, arc ki Caxeda. upirobod<br />
miiRo prokuraturis<br />
Suamdgomloba da udanaSaulo<br />
adamiani, romelsac narkotikebi<br />
Caudes, gldanis cixeSi gaamwesa.<br />
vefxia lomiZe Cveulebrivi qocia,<br />
adre is TargamaZis policia-<br />
Si muSaobda, koba narCemaSvilTan<br />
megobrobda, biznesiTac iyo<br />
dakavebuli da bolos, 2016 wels,<br />
mosamarTled daniSnes. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, vefxia lomiZes ramdenime<br />
dReSi saxli daewva.<br />
meore mosamarTle, qeTevan<br />
jaWvaZe, romelmac winasasamarTlo<br />
sxdoma Caatara. profesiiT<br />
iuristi saerTod araa, mas sagarejos<br />
humanitaruli instituti<br />
aqvs damTavrebuli, romelic<br />
1996 wels daarsda da 1998 wels<br />
daamTavra. mis winamorbed saswavlebels<br />
ki mxolod sameurneo<br />
samarTalmcodneobis specializacia<br />
hqonda licenziiT miniWebuli.<br />
swored zebrebisa da pingvinebis<br />
mosamarTlem daviT xar-<br />
SilaZis dacvis mxaris arc erTi<br />
Suamdgomloba ar daakmayofila.<br />
metic, mtkicebulebad ar dauSva<br />
mowme Sorena laliaSvilis mier<br />
dakavebis adgilas gadaRebuli<br />
firi da, saboloo jamSi, yvela<br />
Suamdgomlobis Semdeg Sesvenebas<br />
acxadebda, rom Sesabamisi direqtivebi<br />
mieRo. qeTevan jaWvaZes<br />
qomagad umal gamouCnda iusticiis<br />
sabWos mdivani levan murusiZe,<br />
romelmac Tqva, rom Sei-<br />
Zleba harvardic daixuros, magram<br />
mis diploms Zala ar daekargebao.<br />
murusiZis mxridan harvardisa<br />
da sagarejos sainJinro<br />
humanitaruli institutis Sedareba<br />
metismetad didi cinizmi<br />
iyo. qeTevan jaWvaZis diplomi<br />
aucileblad unda gaxdes gamo-<br />
Ziebis dawyebis safuZveli, radgan<br />
mas, ubralod, sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmis ganxilvis kvalifikacia<br />
ar gaaCnia.<br />
daviT xarSilaZis saqmis arsebiTi<br />
ganxilva daiwyo. amjerad<br />
mas saboloo verdiqts mosamar-<br />
Tle xaTuna xarCilava gamoutans.<br />
kukuri wivwivaZe<br />
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saremonto brigadidan 4 dasaqmebuli<br />
amwev danadgarSi, xolo 2<br />
vertikaluri gvirabis (Wauri)<br />
Taroze imyofeboda. bagiris Secvlis<br />
procesSi amwev danadgars<br />
sayrdenad qveS Sedgmuli rkinis<br />
sayrdeni „balka” hqonda. bagiris<br />
Secvlis procesSi „balkam” dakarga<br />
pozicia, ris Sedegadac amwevi<br />
danadgari, daaxloebiT, 400 metris<br />
simaRlidan Cavarda.<br />
amwevi danadgari „badia” teqnikuri<br />
reglamentis „naxSiris Saxtebis<br />
usafrTxoebis Sesaxeb” aR-<br />
Wurvili unda iyos sablokirebeli<br />
mowyobilobiT, romelic, profkavSirebis<br />
informaciiT, dandagars<br />
ar gaaCnda da mis magivrad<br />
saremonto brigadis wevrebi amwevi<br />
danadgaris Sesakaveblad rkinis<br />
„balkas” iyenebdnen.<br />
„savaraudod, darRveul iqna<br />
teqnikuri reglamenti „naxSiris<br />
Saxtebis usafrTxoebis Sesaxeb”<br />
damtkicebis Taobaze”, _ muxli 32,<br />
punqti 5", _ naTqvamia profkav-<br />
Sirebis gancxadebaSi.<br />
gaerTianebuli profkavSirebi<br />
xelisuflebas dasaqmebulTa gaerTianebis<br />
mier momzadebuli rekomendaciebis<br />
Sesabamisi Sromis<br />
inspeqciis dauyovenebliv Seqmnisken<br />
mouwodebs da uaxloes dReebSi<br />
gadawyvetilebis specialuri<br />
brZanebiT gamyarebasa da gamoqveynebas<br />
iTxovs.<br />
„aRniSnuli nabijiT xelisuflebam<br />
naTlad unda daanaxos sazogadoebas,<br />
rom qmediT nabijebs<br />
dgams da mzadaa, uari uTxras im<br />
gaugonar mdgomareobas, romelmac<br />
qveyanaSi dasaqmebis adgilebze<br />
ukve 10 welia, daisadgura.<br />
2007 wlidan dRemde, Sromis isnpeqciis<br />
ararsebobis pirobebSi,<br />
sawarmoo ubeduri SemTxvevebis<br />
Sedegad, 420 adamiani gardaicvala<br />
da 700-ze metma mZime travma<br />
miiRo. im SemTxvevaSi, Tu xelisufleba<br />
profkavSirebis aRniSnul<br />
moTxovnas ar daakmayofilebs,<br />
profkavSirebi qveynis masStabiT<br />
masobrivi gaficvebisTvis mzadebas<br />
daiwyebs”, _ aRniSnulia gancxadebaSi.<br />
irakli petriaSvili _ gaer-<br />
Tianebuli<br />
profkavSirebis<br />
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_ vibrZoloT cocxlebisTvis!<br />
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profkavSirebis gaerTianebis Sromis dacvis samsaxuris informaciiT,<br />
saremonto brigada 6 kacis SemadgenlobiT Sax-<br />
tis vertikalur gvirabSi (Wauri) amwevi danadgaris _ „badi-<br />
as” bagirs cvlida.<br />
irakli petriaSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
`Savi qalaqi~<br />
aleko WeliSvili, viqtor daRundariZe,<br />
gizo gubeliZe, gizo<br />
kublaSvili... oTxi Camqrali sicocxle,<br />
daoblebuli bavSvebi,<br />
daqvrivebuli meuRleebi, ZaZiT<br />
Semosili da sibere gamwarebuli<br />
mSoblebi, korporaciul sixarbes,<br />
saxelmwifo upasuxismgeblobas,<br />
sazogadoebis gulgrilobas, biznesis<br />
diqtaturas, sabazro fundamentalizms,<br />
neolibertarianizmis<br />
„wminda” ideologias Sewiruli<br />
Cveni Zmebi da patiosani, Rirseuli<br />
moqalaqeebi.<br />
mavanTaTvis es saxelebi da<br />
gvarebi, ubralod, statistikaa da<br />
imis Tqmis safuZveli, rom sxva<br />
qveynebSic xdeba Saxtebze ubeduri<br />
SemTxvevebi da ufro metic<br />
iRupeba...<br />
dRes TqvenTvis moralisa da<br />
akaki werTlis „gamzrdelis” „wakiTxvas”<br />
azri ar aqvs. arc gamosavalze<br />
SublSeWmuxnili (gawyvetili<br />
ZarRviT) farisevlur SeSfoTebas<br />
miviRebT, arc gamoZiebis<br />
Sedegebi mainteresebs imitom,<br />
rom zustad vici _ es biWebi Tvi-<br />
Tmkvlelebi ar yofilan.<br />
arc Sromis inspeqcia mimaCnia<br />
gamosavlad imitom, rom sul Cemi<br />
diqtatiT rom Camoayalibon kanonad<br />
yvelaferi _ es guliT, gonebiT,<br />
ideologiur-politikuradaa<br />
miuRebeli da aRsruleba maT xelSia.<br />
dRes mxolod glovis droa!<br />
glovoben Cveni Zmebis ojaxebi,<br />
glovaa profkavSirebSi dakrZalvamde<br />
(xelisuflebam, miuxedavad<br />
mowodebisa, glovis dRec ki ar<br />
gamoacxada)!<br />
dakrZalvis dRes tyibulis Sesasvlelidan<br />
samgloviaro marSiT<br />
(movuwodeb profkavSiris yvela<br />
wevrs, visac amis saSualeba aqvs,<br />
tyibulSi Camovides!) pativi mivagoT<br />
Cvens gardacvlil Zmebs. visac<br />
Camosvlis saSualeba ar aqvs, or<br />
saaTze mTeli qveynis masStabiT<br />
gabmuli sayvirebiT gamoxateT T-<br />
anadgoma da protesti. manamde ki<br />
vikribebiT universitetis pirvel<br />
korpusTan da vmarTavT saprotesto<br />
msvlelobas parlamentis Senobamde!<br />
me vici, rom bevrni varT, magram<br />
unda davamtkicoT, rom erTad<br />
varT. brZolas yovelTvis aqvs<br />
azri da aucileblad dadgeba Sedegi!<br />
es aris omi dasaqmebulTa<br />
`vibrZoloT cocxlebisTvis!<br />
aleko WeliSvili, viqtor daRundariZe, gizo<br />
gubeliZe, gizo kublaSvili... oTxi Camqrali<br />
sicocxle, daoblebuli bavSvebi, daqvrivebuli<br />
meuRleebi, ZaZiT Semosili da sibere<br />
gamwarebuli mSoblebi, korporaciul sixarbes,<br />
saxelmwifo upasuxismgeblobas, sazogadoebis<br />
gulgrilobas, biznesis diqtaturas, sabazro<br />
fundamentalizms, neolibertarianizmis<br />
`wminda~ ideologias Sewiruli Cveni Zmebi da<br />
patiosani, Rirseuli moqalaqeebi. mavanTaTvis<br />
es saxelebi da gvarebi, ubralod, statistikaa<br />
da imis Tqmis safuZveli, rom sxva qveynebSic<br />
xdeba Saxtebze ubeduri SemTxvevebi da ufro<br />
metic iRupeba... dRes TqvenTvis moralisa da<br />
akaki werTlis `gamzrdelis~ `wakiTxvas~ azri<br />
ar aqvs. arc gamosavalze SublSeWmuxnili<br />
(gawyvetili ZarRviT) farisevlur SeSfoTebas<br />
miviRebT, arc gamoZiebis Sedegebi mainteresebs<br />
imitom, rom zustad vici - es biWebi<br />
TviTmkvlelebi ar yofilan~<br />
winaaRmdeg da brZolis wageba nu<br />
SegaSinebT, omis mogebaa mTavari!<br />
brZolis gareSe kidev bevrjer<br />
Segvmosaven ZaZebiT da statistikaSi<br />
migviCenen adgils.<br />
vglovobT da vloculobT<br />
gardacvlilTaTvis!”<br />
„qronika+” saqarTvelos metalurgiuli<br />
da samTo mrewvelobis<br />
muSakTa profkavSirebis xe-<br />
lmZRvanels, Tamaz dolaberiZes<br />
esaubreba:<br />
_ batono Tamaz, kidev erTx-<br />
el, ra moxda mindelis maRaroSi<br />
da ra mizezebma gamoiwvia es<br />
tragedia?<br />
_ 9 maiss, 17:20 saaTze, Sps „saqnaxSiris”<br />
(ji-ai-ji jgufi) tyibulis<br />
elizbar mindelis saxelobis<br />
maRaroze jgufuri sawarmo Sem-<br />
Txveva moxda, romelic tragikulad<br />
dasrulda.<br />
saSaxto awevis zeinklebi: aleko<br />
WeliSvili, viqtor daRundariZe,<br />
gizo gubeliZe da gizo kublaSvili<br />
satvirTo liftze (kleti)<br />
saremonto samuSaoebs asrulebdnen.<br />
maT eqspluataciidan gamoiyvanes<br />
amwevi danadgari, raTa amwevi<br />
bagiri (trosi) SeecvalaT. saremonto<br />
samuSaoebis mimdinareobis<br />
dros amwevi danadgari safiqsacio<br />
sayrdenidan asxlta da SaxtaSi Cavarda,<br />
romlis siRrme 350 metrze<br />
metia. Sesabamisad, zeinklebi, romlebic<br />
am dros danadgaris Tavze<br />
imyofebodnen, Tan Caiyola.<br />
10 maiss, dilis 6 saaTze, samaSvelo<br />
samsaxurebma, ramdenimesaaTiani<br />
Zebnis Semdeg, Zebnis operacia<br />
daasrules _ oTxive zeinklis<br />
cxedari 400 metris siRrmidan<br />
amoiyvanes.<br />
moZiebuli informaciis safuZvelze,<br />
SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom<br />
samuSao adgili saremonto samuSaoebis<br />
Casatareblad saTanadod<br />
ar iyo momzadebuli. garda<br />
amisa, vvaraudobT, rom SesaZloa,<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis sxva normebic<br />
darRveuli iyo.<br />
_ ra unda daadginos muSaobis<br />
procesSi faqtis kvlevis komi-<br />
siam?<br />
_ gamosakvlevia, hqodaT Tu<br />
ara zeinklebs damcavi Rvedebi da<br />
momzadebuli iyo Tu ara saremonto<br />
samuSaoebis werilobiTi ganawes-daSveba,<br />
romelSic asaxuli<br />
unda iyos samoqmedo gegma, Casatarebeli<br />
samuSaoebis mokle aRweriloba,<br />
samuSao adgilis Sesa-<br />
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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
meSaxteebs daemSvidoba<br />
bamisoba Sromis dacvis normebTan<br />
da rogorc Semsrulebeli, aseve<br />
pasuxismgebeli pirebis vinaoba.<br />
_ samuSo adgilebze daRupvi-<br />
sa da dasaxiCrebis bolo wlebis<br />
statistika rogoria?<br />
_ Sss-s mier gamoqveynebuli<br />
statistikis Sesabamisad, 2010 wlidan<br />
dRemde samuSao adgilebze<br />
420 adamiani daiRupa, xolo 600-<br />
mde adamiani daSavda. tyibulSi,<br />
igive periodSi, 24 adamiania daRupuli<br />
da 19 daSavebuli.<br />
_ arsebul mZime mdgomareoba-<br />
ze pasuxismgebloba vis ekisreba?<br />
_ sakanonmdeblo xarvezebsa da<br />
kanonis aRmasrulebeli meqanizmebis<br />
araefeqtianobaze mTavrobaa<br />
pasuxismgebeli, xolo Sromis dacvisa<br />
da usafrTxoebis sistemebis<br />
marTvaze pasuxismgebloba, yvela<br />
SemTxvevaSi, damsaqmebels ekisreba.<br />
_ ra moTxovnebi gaqvT profkavSirebs,<br />
ra nabijebi unda gadaidgas<br />
viTarebis dasaregulire-<br />
blad?<br />
_ unda Seiqmnas Sromis inspeqcia,<br />
unda miiRon kanoni samuSao<br />
adgilebze Sromis usafrTxoebisa<br />
da janmrTelobis dacvis Sesaxeb<br />
da unda moxdes Sromis saerTa-<br />
Soriso organizaciis Sromis usafrTxoebasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli<br />
konvenciebis ratificireba.<br />
_ xelisuflebis pozicia<br />
rogoria da ra nabijebs gadad-<br />
gamT, Tu mTavroba wayenebul<br />
moTxovnebs isev ar Seasrulebs?<br />
_ xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs<br />
yovelTvis enis moCleqiT<br />
uwevT saubari damsaqmeblebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, Sesabamisad, maTi<br />
poziciebi zedmetad Semwynarebluri<br />
da sustia, rac, Tavis mxriv,<br />
imaze miuTiTebs, rom xelisufleba,<br />
garkveulwilad, biznesis gavlenisa<br />
da SantaJis qveS imyofeba.<br />
es ki maT xels uSlis, sazogadoebrivi<br />
dakveTebi ganaxorcielon<br />
da qveynis moqalaqeebis interesebi<br />
jerovnad daicvan.<br />
kompania „saqnaxSiri” Rrma<br />
mwuxarebas gamoTqvams da samZi-<br />
marsa da Tanadgomas ucxadebs<br />
ubeduri SemTxvevis gamo daRu-<br />
puli meSaxteebis ojaxebs:<br />
„miuxedavad kompaniis Zalisxmevisa,<br />
zedmiwevniT Sesruldes<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis normebi, am<br />
konkretul SemTxvevaSi, samwuxarod,<br />
tragediis Tavidan acileba<br />
ver moxerxda.<br />
Seqmnilia mokvlevis jgufi,<br />
mimdinareobs sagamoZiebo RonisZiebebi,<br />
romelic am tragikuli<br />
SemTxvevis gamomwvev mizezebs daadgens.<br />
kompanias miaCnia, rom gamoZiebis<br />
dasrulebamde da tragediis<br />
gamomwvevi realuri mizezebis<br />
dadgenamde am TemiT spekulireba<br />
ar unda moxdes.<br />
Tavis mxriv, „saqnaxSiri” srul<br />
mzadyofnas gamoTqvams, iTanam-<br />
Sromlos gamoZiebasTan da xeli<br />
Seuwyos procesis gamWvirvaled<br />
warmarTvas. kidev erTxel gulwrfelad<br />
gamovxatavT TanagrZnobas<br />
am mZime adamianuri tragediis gamo.<br />
kompania gverdiT udgas daRupuli<br />
meSaxteebis ojaxebsa da maT<br />
axloblebs”.<br />
„saqnaxSiris”<br />
generaluri<br />
direqtoris, jambulat jayelis<br />
TqmiT, kompania yvelafers gaa-<br />
keTebs gardacvlili adamianebis<br />
ojaxebis TanadgomisTvis: „Zalian<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
kargi adamianebi davkargeT, minda,<br />
mivusamZimro maT ojaxebs da<br />
mTel koleqtivs. Cveni kompania<br />
mzadaa, iTanamSromlos gamoZiebasTan,<br />
aseve mzad varT, daxmareba<br />
gavuwioT gardacvlilTa ojaxis<br />
wevrebs. maT SevxvdiT, vesaubreT<br />
da yvelafers gavakeTebT,<br />
rac Cvenze iqneba damokidebuli”.<br />
`xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs yovelTvis<br />
enis moCleqiT uwevT saubari damsaqmeblebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, Sesabamisad, maTi poziciebi<br />
zedmetad Semwynarebluri da sustia, rac,<br />
Tavis mxriv, imaze miuTiTebs, rom<br />
xelisufleba, garkveulwilad, biznesis<br />
gavlenisa da SantaJis qveS imyofeba. es ki maT<br />
xels uSlis, sazogadoebrivi dakveTebi<br />
ganaxorcielon da qveynis moqalaqeebis<br />
interesebi jerovnad daicvan~<br />
maRaroelTa gardacvalebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT saxalxo dam-<br />
cveli gancxadebas akeTebs:<br />
„2017 wlis 9 maiss gavrcelebuli<br />
informaciis Tanaxmad, „saqnax-<br />
Siri ji-ai-ji jgufis” tyibulis<br />
mindelis saxelobis maRaroSi 400<br />
metris simaRlidan lifti Cavarda,<br />
ris Sedegadac liftSi myofi<br />
4 maRaroeli gardaicvala.<br />
samuSao adgilze dasaxiCrebulTa<br />
da daRupulTa ricxvi yovelwliurad<br />
matulobs. 2016 wels<br />
gardaicvala 58 da daSavda 85<br />
adamiani. mdgomareobis gauaresebas<br />
xels uwyobs qveyanaSi Sromis<br />
inspeqciis efeqtiani meqanizmis<br />
ararseboba. mindelis maRaroSi<br />
momxdari faqti da qveyanaSi arsebuli<br />
sagangaSo statistika kidev<br />
erTxel usvams xazs samuSao<br />
adgilebze Sromis usafrTxoebis<br />
problemebis simwvaves, romelzedac<br />
saqarTvelos saxalxo damcveli<br />
bolo 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi aqtiurad<br />
miuTiTebs.<br />
saxalxo damcveli parlamentsa<br />
da mTavrobas wlebia, mouwodebs<br />
miiRos usafrTxoebis wesebis<br />
dacvasTan dakavSirebiT srulyofili<br />
regulaciebi da Seqmnas<br />
maTi Sesrulebis monitoringis<br />
efeqtiani meqanizmi.<br />
saxalxo damcveli miiCnevs, rom<br />
samuSao adgilze daRupvisa da dazianebis<br />
TiToeul SemTxvevaze<br />
pasuxismgebloba ekisreba yvela im<br />
pirs, vinc wlebia, ewinaaRmdegeba<br />
Sromis inspeqciis Seqmnas.<br />
saxalxo damcveli mwuxarebas<br />
gamoTqvams maRaroelTa gardacvalebis<br />
gamo, usamZimrebs gardacvlilebis<br />
ojaxis wevrebs da kidev<br />
erTxel mouwodebs mTavrobasa<br />
da parlaments, konkretuli<br />
qmediTi nabijebi gadadgas Sromis<br />
usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofis<br />
mizniT; Seqmnas Sesabamisi normatiuli<br />
baza da Sromis usafrTxoebisTvis<br />
saWiro regulaciebis<br />
Sesrulebaze zedamxedveli damoukidebeli<br />
saxelmwifo organo,<br />
romelic aRWurvili iqneba Sesasruleblad<br />
savaldebulo miTiTebebis<br />
gacemisa da Sesabamisi sanqciebis<br />
gamoyenebis uflebamosilebiT.<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis mkacri<br />
standartebis gareSe Seqmnili<br />
dRes moqmedi samsaxuri, romelsac<br />
ar gaaCnia iZulebiTi RonisZiebis<br />
araviTari meqanizmi, aris<br />
Tvalis asaxvevad Seqmnili fsevdosistema<br />
da ar gvaZlevs Sromis<br />
usafrTxoebis dasacavad saWiro<br />
realur garantiebs”.<br />
Tamaz dolaberiZe<br />
am fonze, maRali riskis sawarmoebSi<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis mon-<br />
itoringi ganxorcieldeba. 11<br />
maiss gamoica ori ministris er-<br />
Toblivi brZaneba: „saqarTvelos<br />
ekonomikisa da mdgradi ganviTarebis<br />
saministrosa da saqarTvelos<br />
Sromis, janmrTelobisa da<br />
socialuri dacvis saministros<br />
erToblivi monitoringis jgufis<br />
Seqmnis Sesaxeb” (11.05.17; 1-1/200;<br />
01-98/T).<br />
ekonomikisa da jandacvis ministrebis<br />
mier xelmowerili er-<br />
Toblivi brZanebiT, iqmneba monitoringis<br />
jgufi, romelSic<br />
ekonomikis saministros teqnikuri<br />
da samSeneblo zedamxedvelobis<br />
saagentosa da jandacvis saministros<br />
Sromis pirobebis inspeqtirebis<br />
departamentis specialistebi<br />
Sevlen.<br />
„mZime, mavne da saSiSpirobebian,<br />
aseve mometebuli teqnikuri<br />
safrTxis Semcvel samuSao adgilebze,<br />
romlebic Seicavs mometebul<br />
risks adamianis sicocxlisa<br />
da janmrTelobisTvis, Sromis pirobebis<br />
monitoringisa da obieqtis<br />
teqnikuri inspeqtirebis mizniT,<br />
Seiqmnas saqarTvelos ekonomikisa<br />
da mdgradi ganviTarebis<br />
saministrosa da saqarTvelos Sromis,<br />
janmrTelobisa da socialuri<br />
dacvis saministros erToblivi<br />
monitoringis jgufi, saqarTvelos<br />
ekonomikisa da mdgradi<br />
ganviTarebis saministros sistema-<br />
Si Semavali sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli<br />
piris _ teqnikuri da<br />
samSeneblo zedamxedvelobis saagentosa<br />
da saqarTvelos Sromis,<br />
janmrTelobisa da socialuri<br />
dacvis saministros Sromis pirobebis<br />
inspeqtirebis departamentis<br />
warmomadgenelTa SemadgenlobiT”,<br />
_ aRniSnulia brZanebaSi.<br />
erToblivi brZanebis mixedviT,<br />
monitoringis jgufSi, misi wevrebis<br />
garda, SesaZlebelia, kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dadgenili wesiT, sxva<br />
pirebic moiwvion.<br />
rogorc brZanebaSia aRniSnuli,<br />
monitoringis jgufma unda<br />
uzrunvelyos dasaqmebulTa Sromis<br />
pirobebis, aseve samuSao adgilebis<br />
Sefaseba saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dadgenil moTxovnebTan<br />
da teqnikuri inspeqtireba<br />
iseT obieqtebze, sadac<br />
aris mZime, mavne da saSiSpirobebiani,<br />
mometebuli teqnikuri safrTxis<br />
Semcveli samuSao adgilebi<br />
da arsebobs maRali riski adamianTa<br />
sicocxlisa da janmrTelobisTvis.<br />
monitoringis jgufis Seqmnis<br />
gadawyvetileba 11 maiss „Sromis<br />
usafrTxoebisa da janmrTelobis<br />
dacvis Sesaxeb” kanonproeqtze<br />
momuSave jgufis Sexvedraze gadawyda,<br />
romelsac giorgi gaxaria da<br />
daviT sergeenko eswrebodnen.<br />
rogorc Sexvedraze iTqva, daskvniT<br />
etapzea axali kanonproeqti<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebisa da janmrTelobis<br />
dacvis Sesaxeb, Tumca<br />
mis amoqmedebamde, maRali saWiroebidan<br />
gamomdinare, ministrebma<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRes, maRali<br />
riskis obieqtebze momuSave adamianebis<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis prevenciisTvis<br />
monitoringis jgufis<br />
Seqmnis Sesaxeb.<br />
11
iraklis daWeris Sesaxeb sazogadoebam<br />
misi kuTvnili feisbuq<br />
gverdis saSualebiT Seityo: „rogorc<br />
iqna, aixdines ocneba da Semaxes<br />
Tavisi binZuri klanWebi... damiWires!”<br />
_ werda Cxvirkia.<br />
Cxvirkias brali wauyenes sisxlis<br />
samarTlis kodeqsis 225-e muxlis<br />
pirveli nawiliT, rac gulisxmobs<br />
masobrivi areulobis organizebas,<br />
an xelmZRvanelobas, rasac<br />
Tan axlavs Zaladoba, rbeva, cecxlis<br />
wakideba, iaraRis an asafeTqebeli<br />
mowyobilobis gamoyeneba an/<br />
da xelisuflebis warmomadgenlisadmi<br />
SeiaraRebuli winaaRmdegoba.<br />
yvelaferi ki 11 marts baTumSi,<br />
WavWavaZis gamzirze, „baTumi plazasTan”,<br />
daaxloebiT 16:00 saaTze<br />
daiwyo _ maSin, rodesac sapatrulo<br />
policiis TanamSromelma moqalaqe<br />
jer araswori parkirebisTvis<br />
daajarima, Semdeg ki SeuracxyofisTvis<br />
daakava. am yvelaferma<br />
moqalaqeebis protesti gamoiwvia,<br />
rac spontanur aqciaSi gadaizarda.<br />
sapatrulo policiis<br />
muSaobiT ukmayofilo adamianebis<br />
didi nawili policiis mTavar sammarTvelosTan<br />
Seikriba da dakavebulebis<br />
ganTavisufleba da sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosis, kaxa buxraZis<br />
gadayeneba moiTxovas. ukve mogvianebiT<br />
procesebi garTulda, aqciaze<br />
gamoCndnen agresiulad ganwyobili<br />
axalgazrdebi, romlebic<br />
SeiaraRebulni iyvnen jaWvebiTa da<br />
„molotovis koqteilebiT”. uamravi<br />
adamiani daSavda, dazianda<br />
rogorc sapatrulo policiis,<br />
aseve samoqalaqo pirebis avtomobilebi.<br />
gamTeniisas, daaxloebiT,<br />
05:00 saaTze specrazmma aqcia daSala.<br />
aRniSnulis gamo Sss-m gamoZieba<br />
daiwyo.<br />
„qronika+” irakli Cvxirkias<br />
TemiT dainteresda da „erTiani<br />
nacionaluri moZraobis” wevrsa da<br />
„Tavisufali zonis” damfuZnebels,<br />
koba xabazs esaubra:<br />
_ batono koba, Tqven eswrebodiT<br />
irakli Cxvirkias sasamarT-<br />
lo process baTumSi, sadac mas<br />
aRkveTis RonisZiebis saxiT patim-<br />
roba mosamarTle violeta for-<br />
CxiZem Seufarda. procesis das-<br />
rulebis Semdeg Tqven gancxadeba<br />
gaakeTeT, ambobdiT, rom irakli<br />
udanaSauloa, ris safuZvelze ga-<br />
nacxadeT es?<br />
_ is, rom irakli ar aris aqciis<br />
organizatori, amaSi 100%-iT var<br />
darwmunebuli. irakli Cxvirkia im<br />
dRes TbilisSi imyofeboda. Cven<br />
erTad viyaviT „erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” centralur ofisSi,<br />
rodesac baTumSi mosaxleobis<br />
saprotesto aqcia daiwyo. me da<br />
iraklim socialur qselSi gavrcelebuli<br />
masalebis mixedviT erTad<br />
gavigeT am aqciis Sesaxeb. rodesac<br />
informacia gavrcelda da baTum-<br />
Si movlenebi daiZaba, irakli Cxvirkiam<br />
miTxra: „wavideT baTumSi,<br />
koba, es Cveni kuTxea”. me vupasuxe,<br />
rom, savaraudod, diliT Sev-<br />
Zlebdi wasvlas. iraklim ki miTxra,<br />
rom Tu ufro adre gamgzavrebas<br />
moaxerxebda, aucileblad damikav-<br />
Sirdeboda da Tu ver moaxerxebda,<br />
dilas erTad wavidodiT.<br />
daaxloebiT Ramis 01:00 saaTze<br />
me kidev vesaubre iraklis. man mi-<br />
Txra, rom gamgzavreba moaxerxa<br />
12<br />
mariam baSaruli<br />
„Tavisufali zonis” yofili wevri da „erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraobidan” garicxuli irakli Cxvirkia 2017 wlis 23 aprils,<br />
taqsaobis dros, Sua quCaSi kriminaliviT daakaves. saqme 11-12<br />
marts baTumSi ganviTarebul movlenebs da im vandalizms ex-<br />
eba, ramac mniSvnelovnad daazarala qalaqis iersaxe.<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
megobarTan erTad da im wuTisTvis<br />
mcxeTaSi imyofeboda. xazgasmiT<br />
aRvniSnav dros: es xdeba, daaxloebiT,<br />
Ramis 01:00 saaTze, rodesac<br />
manqanebi ukve damwvaria da rodesac<br />
Setakebebs policielebsa da<br />
moqalaqeebs Soris umZimesi forma<br />
aqvs miRebuli. amis Semdeg irakli<br />
Cxvirkias, daaxloebiT, 4-dan 5<br />
saaTamde SualedSi vesaubre. es is<br />
droa, rodesac Cxvirkia baTumSi<br />
Cavida. vurCie, rom frTxilad yofiliyo<br />
da provokacias ar wamogeboda,<br />
iraklim ki mipasuxa: me xalxis<br />
gverdiT unda davdge, rogorme<br />
ganvmuxto situacia. xom vici, xelisufleba<br />
mtyuan-marTlis garCevas<br />
ar daiwyebs da yvelas daiWers.<br />
rodesac misi satelevizio gamosvla<br />
movismine, kidev erTxel davukavSirdi<br />
Cxvirkias. man miTxra,<br />
rom misi es gancxadeba erTaderTi<br />
saSualeba iyo imisa, rom dro mogvego<br />
da xalxi dawynarebuliyoo.<br />
yvela am satelefono zaris, Cxvirkias<br />
adgilsamyofelis movlenebis<br />
dawyebisas ra dros imyofeboda<br />
is mcxeTis misadgomebTan, ra<br />
dros Cavida baTumSi da a. S., xom<br />
umartivesia am informaciis anZebidan<br />
amoReba? policia amaze Tavs<br />
ar iwuxebs Zalian martivi mizezis<br />
gamo _ ivaniSvilis reJimis amocana<br />
is aris, rom maT mier Cadenili<br />
danaSauli „erTian nacionalur<br />
moZraobas da „Tavisufal zonas”<br />
gadaabralon.<br />
_ baTumSi ganviTarebul movlenebs<br />
xelisuflebis mier Cadenil<br />
danaSauls eZaxiT, ra ga-<br />
ZlevT amis Tqmis safuZvels?<br />
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom is adamianebi,<br />
romlebic manqanebze daxtodnen<br />
da sapatrulo policiis<br />
avtomobilebs amtvrevdnen, ekeTaT<br />
niRbebi, veravin damajerebs, rom<br />
maT identifikacias qceviT, tansacmliT<br />
da sxva saSualebebiT policia<br />
ver SeZlebda. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
cxadia, rom policias realurad<br />
ar awyobs am saqmis gaxsna,<br />
radgan isini xelisuflebis zonderebi<br />
iyvnen da maTi daWeris SemTxvevaSi<br />
mTeli farsi gamoaSkaravdeba.<br />
_ raSi awyobda es yvelaferi<br />
xelisuflebas?<br />
_ Cemi azriT, aq ar aris erTi<br />
mizezi. aq Zalian bevri mizezisa da<br />
interesis Tanxvedra moxda. Sevecdebi,<br />
CamovTvalo:<br />
1. movlenebi garkveul etapamde<br />
iyo xelisuflebis sxvadasxva<br />
Stoebs Soris Sidadapirispirebis<br />
Sedegi, xolo rodesac es yvelaferi<br />
daiZaba, xelisuflebam gadawyvita,<br />
maqsimaluri sargebeli mie-<br />
Ro. am mizniT isini Seecadnen:<br />
2. a) gadaefaraT P.S.-is umZimesi<br />
braldebebi xelisuflebis mimarT;<br />
b) gadaebralebinaT es yvelaferi<br />
„erTiani nacionaluri moZraobisTvis”<br />
da „Tavisufali zonisTvis”;<br />
3. moexdinaT aqciebisa da winaaRmdegobis<br />
moZraobis diskrediteba.<br />
swored am mizniT Semoiyvanes<br />
maT vandalebi scenaze da daatriales<br />
is, rac yvelam erTad vixileT.<br />
_ Tu fiqrobT, rom irakli<br />
Cxvirkia udanaSauloa, maSin ra-<br />
tom garicxes igi partiidan?<br />
_ aranair kavSirSi danaSauli<br />
da partiidan garicxva erTmaneT-<br />
Tan ar aris. iraklim daarRvia par-<br />
cisana rostobaia:<br />
tiuli ganawesi. irakli partiidan<br />
udisciplinobisTvis gairicxa, magram<br />
es ar niSnavs, rom irakli aqciis<br />
organizatoria. me Tamamad SemiZlia<br />
vTqva: 1. irakli ar iyo aqciis<br />
organizatori;<br />
2. irakli ar aris kriminali da<br />
damnaSave; 3. irakli patrioti axalgazrdaa!<br />
ai, es aris, Cemi azriT, mTavari.<br />
_ mxolod partiidan gairicxa<br />
irakli, Tu „Tavisufali zonidan-<br />
ac”?<br />
_ irakli „Tavisufali zonidan”<br />
ver gairicxeboda ori martivi<br />
mizezis gamo: Cven varT Tavisufali<br />
nebis adamianebis nebayoflobi-<br />
Ti gaerTianeba, Cvengan adamianebi<br />
sakuTari gancxadebiT midian da<br />
gvierTdebian; irakli Cxvirkiam ba-<br />
Tumis movlenebamde garkveuli<br />
debiuti<br />
`rogorc ki<br />
xelisufleba<br />
Seicvleba,<br />
irakli<br />
aucileblad<br />
gaagrZelebs<br />
samsaxurs<br />
policiaSi!~<br />
droiT adre „Tavisufali zonis”<br />
Tavmjdomare nika WuraZes ganucxada,<br />
rom man datova „Tavisufali<br />
zona” nebayoflobiT, radgan zonis<br />
aqtivobebSi monawileobas ver<br />
axerxebda.<br />
prokuraturas erTmaneTis msgavsi,<br />
kopirebuli Cvenebebis garda<br />
irakli Cxvirkias winaaRmdeg<br />
arc erTi saxis mtkicebuleba ar<br />
gaaCnia. giga futkaraZe, roland<br />
futkaraZe, Temur labJania, roman<br />
diasamiZe, roman gelaZe da imeda<br />
cxadaZe Tavis CvenebebSi aRniSnaven,<br />
rom irakli Cxvirkia maT aqciaze<br />
im dros naxes, rodesac, realurad,<br />
is TbilisSi imyofeboda!<br />
„qronika+” irakli Cxvirkias<br />
dedas, qalbaton cisana rostoba-<br />
iasac esaubra:<br />
_ irakli saxlidan gvian RamiT<br />
wavida, maSin rodesac baTumSi<br />
darbeva ukve dasrulebuli iyo da<br />
procesebi stabilurdeboda. iraklim<br />
damamSvida, _ xom xedav, aqcia<br />
ukve daarbies, sanam me iq Caval, ga-<br />
Tendeba da yvelaferi dasrulebulic<br />
iqnebao. asec moxda, Cemi Svili<br />
baTumSi maSin Cavida, roca yvelaferi<br />
morCenili iyo. erTaderTi,<br />
rasac mis winaaRmdeg iyeneben, es<br />
televiziebisTvis micemuli interviua.<br />
rogor unda daeorganizebina<br />
iraklis es aqcia, roca ba-<br />
TumSic ki ar yofila is dReebi?!<br />
iraklis sasamarTlos Semdeg<br />
CemTan asakiani kaci movida, miTanagrZno.<br />
miTxra, rom Cemi Svili magari<br />
biWia, rom is qveyanaze uzomod<br />
Seyvarebuli axalgazrdaa da<br />
ar SeiZleba, rom im vandalizmis<br />
organizatori yofiliyoo. garda<br />
amisa, man Tqva, rom maSin, rodesac<br />
iq manqanebi iwvoda, sadRac, 10<br />
metrSi saxanZro manqanebi idgnen.<br />
Cven vTxovdiT Caqrobas, Tumca<br />
uarze iyvnen, _ brZanebas velodebiT<br />
da imitom ar vaqrobT jero.<br />
6 wlis iyo irakli, soxumidan<br />
rom wamovediT. bolo wuTamde<br />
viyaviT iq, bolo dRemde vemsaxure<br />
omSi daWrilebs da bolo ukrainuli<br />
gemi rom Camodga „maWarkis”<br />
napirTan, im gems CamovyeviT. mTeli<br />
cxovreba samSoblos siyvaruls<br />
vaswavlidi, uniWieresi Svili<br />
myavs, leqsebsac ki wers, ufasoze<br />
Caabara universitetSi da warmatebiT<br />
daamTavra iuridiuli fakulteti.<br />
zedmiwevniT kargad icis<br />
kanonebi da Tavisi uflebebi. 5<br />
weli gldani-naZaladevis me-9<br />
ganyofilebaSi patiosnad imuSava,<br />
WikaiZe iyo misi ufrosi. arc erTi<br />
sayveduri, arc erTi SeniSvna ar<br />
hqonia am xnis manZilze. dRemde<br />
Senaxuli aqvs forma da dRemde<br />
ambobs, rom rogorc ki xelisufleba<br />
Seicvleba, aucileblad gaagrZelebs<br />
samsaxurs policiaSi.<br />
irakli Cxvirkias interesebs<br />
sasamarTloSi advokati da „er-<br />
Tiani nacionaluri moZraobis” politikuri<br />
sabWos wevri, goga oniani<br />
icavs. onianma Cxvirkias dacva<br />
pirveli sasamarTlo procesis dasrulebisTanave<br />
miiRo, radgan fiqrobs,<br />
rom Cxvirkia politikuri<br />
devnis erT-erTi msxverplia. onianis<br />
TqmiT, aranairi mtkicebuleba<br />
saqmeSi iraklis mimarT ar aris<br />
da metic _ am saqmeze mtkicebulebebze<br />
saubars azric ki ar aqvs,<br />
radgan es ar aris marTlmsajulebis<br />
procesi. calsaxaa, rom Cxvirkias<br />
mimarT politikuri devna<br />
mimdinareobs, bolo sasamarTlo<br />
procesma ki es kidev erTxel daadastura.<br />
saqmeSi aris 6 cru mowme,<br />
romelic prokuraturis mier daweril<br />
Cvenebebs xels awer. darwmunebuli<br />
var es Cvenebebi wakiTxulic<br />
ki ar aqvT. maTgan 5 mowmis<br />
Cveneba sruliad identuria. mimaCnia,<br />
rom yvela adamianis valia,<br />
mxarSi davudgeT irakli Cxvirkias<br />
da yvela politpatimars, romlebic<br />
ivaniSvilis reJimma sakuTari<br />
komfortisTvis cixeSi gamoketa.<br />
goga oniani gldani-naZaladevis<br />
sammarTveloSi muSaobis dros irakli<br />
Cxvirkias erT-erTi ufrosi<br />
iyo. oniani Cxvirkias muSaobis periods<br />
dadebiTad afasebs da ambobs,<br />
rom Cxvirkia rigiTi Tanam-<br />
Sromeli iyo, romelic pirnaTlad<br />
asrulebda masze dakisrebul movaleobas<br />
da mowadinebuli iyo<br />
kriminalis winaaRmdeg sabrZolvelad.<br />
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ezo SatakiSvili<br />
saqarTvelos mesame prezidenti, mixeil saakaSvili, idevne-<br />
ba, idevneba WinWebisTvis _ qiSmiris paltosa da ramdenime xeli<br />
kostiumisTvis. es araa politikuri lideris Cveulebrivi<br />
politikuri devna, esaa gamocxadebuli politikuri devnis<br />
qronika, rac mTavaria, samarcxvino qronika.<br />
samarcxvino imitom, rom am<br />
dedamiwis zurgze yvelam gadasarevad<br />
icis, ratomac idevneba igi da<br />
yvela utifrad dums. utifar dumils<br />
kidev ra uSavs, yvela, visac<br />
ki sindis-namusis muxruWebi aqvs<br />
moSlili, utifrad bodavs, rac im<br />
wuTas mis binZur zraxvebs waadgeba.<br />
yvelam gadasarevad icis, rom<br />
kacs, romelsac 19 miliardis mi-<br />
Tvisebas edavebodnen, bolos brali<br />
dasdes 8 milioni laris aramiznobrivad<br />
gaflangvaSi, qiSmiris<br />
paltosa da 7 kostiumis yidva-<br />
CacmaSi. metic, masaJistis momsaxurebiT<br />
sargebloba dasaxes misi<br />
diqtatorobis utyuar niSnad.<br />
yvelam gadasarevad icis is, rom<br />
sakmarisi iyo, mas qveyana ar daetovebina,<br />
biZina ivaniSvili masac<br />
cixeSi gamoketavda, rogorc gamoketa<br />
baCo axalaia, vano merabiSvili,<br />
gigi ugulava, romelmac,<br />
rogorc ki cixe datova, jarTSi<br />
Caabara saakaSvili.<br />
yvelam gadasarevad icis isic,<br />
rom axlac, saakaSvili saqarTveloSi<br />
rom Semovides, mas dauyovnebliv<br />
daapatimrebs ivaniSvili<br />
da pirad patimrad aqcevs.<br />
yvelam gadasarevad icis, ratomac<br />
ufrTxis ivaniSvili saakaSvils<br />
da miuxedavad mTeli am yvela<br />
„gadasarevad codnisa”, dRemde<br />
bevrs qilikis sagnad aqvs naqcevi<br />
misi saqarTveloSi arCamosvla da<br />
cixeSi arCajdoma _ rogorc pasuxismgeblobisgan<br />
Tavis arideba da<br />
metic, rogorc utyuari niSani imisa,<br />
rom saqarTvelos mesame prezidenti<br />
mSiSaraa, gansxvavebiT im<br />
mamaci xalxisgan, vinc cixeSi zis.<br />
keTdeba es utifari gancxadebebi<br />
da gegoneba, ivaniSvilis sasamarTlo<br />
marTlac iZleodes simarTlis<br />
dadgenis saSualebas. romc<br />
gabedos da daadginos sasamarTlom<br />
udanaSauloba, gegoneba, 13-<br />
gzis gamarTlebuli baCo axalaia<br />
isev ar ijdes cixeSi.<br />
rac mTavaria, gegoneba, ar vicodeT,<br />
rom Tuki ivaniSvili moixelTebs<br />
putinis nomer pirvel<br />
mter saakaSvils, is mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />
piradi patimari ki ara,<br />
momentalurad gaxdeba putinis<br />
piradi patimaric.<br />
da ra surT am TemiT dRemde<br />
mojambazeebs? rom putinma xelT<br />
igdos saakaSvili, iseve rogorc<br />
xelT igdo roma SamaTava? ras miscems<br />
vinmes saakaSvilis gisosebs<br />
miRma yofna? ras miscems putins?<br />
sruliad gasagebia _ misgan daisvenebs.<br />
ras miscems ivaniSvils? _<br />
esec gasagebia, _ udrtvinvel Zils<br />
SuSis sasaxleSi. magram risgan daisveneben<br />
sxvebi, romelTac niskarti<br />
ar ucvdebaT am Temaze amdeni<br />
ybedobiT?<br />
gasagebia isic, ratom arian<br />
gaavebulni „meocnebeebi” da ratom<br />
gahkivian dRemde, gasagebia maTi<br />
usasrulo isterika _ ver iZies Suri,<br />
borkilebi ver daades saakaSvils<br />
da mis yovel gamoCenaze duJi<br />
sdiT. arada, isic ar isvenebs, _ xan<br />
qarTuli teleeTerebidan exmianeba,<br />
xan _ ukrainuli da arcTu iSviaTad<br />
„sienenis” ekranebidan.<br />
„qocebma” bolomde ver gamoscales<br />
SurisZiebisa da gamarjvebis<br />
fiala da es agiJebT, magram ra<br />
rjiT Tavad mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
TanamebrZolebs?<br />
an ra rjis saqarTvelos meoTxe<br />
prezidentad wodebul giorgi<br />
margvelaSvils, romelmac gasul<br />
kviras yaisnaRs yaisnaRi gamosdo<br />
da sruliad samarcxvino gancxadeba<br />
dado „odiSTan” interviuSi:<br />
„pirveli prezidenti movkaliT,<br />
meore gadavayeneT da saxlSi gamovketeT,<br />
mesame, kidev, devniloba-<br />
Sia”, _ sityva-sityviT ase brZana<br />
misma uyaisnaResobam.<br />
is xan, magaliTad, parlamentSi<br />
gamosvlisas saerTod ar axsenebs<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias, xan mis saflavze<br />
gvecxadeba, xan mis stipendias<br />
awesebs da axla gvamcnobs, rom,<br />
Turme, zviad gamsaxurdia movkaliT.<br />
mas, cxadia, ufleba aqvs, amdeni<br />
wlis Semdeg aiRos Tavisi wili<br />
pasuxismgebloba am mkvlelobaze,<br />
magram ra uflebiT gamovyavarT<br />
uklebliv yvela zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
mkvlelebad? am gazeTis furclebze<br />
adrec davwere da axlac<br />
gavimeoreb: arc me, arc Cems winaprebs<br />
ar mouklavT ilia, is mokles<br />
garewrebma, moRalateebma;<br />
arc me da arc sazogadoebis umravlesobas<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
damxobasa da mkvlelobaSi wili ar<br />
migviZRvis. mis damxobasa da mklelobaSi<br />
wili aqvT maT, romelTac<br />
niadagi Seumzades im procesebs _<br />
romlebic gaiTxlaSnen iq, televiziis<br />
kibeebTan, Tu kinos saxlTan<br />
da maT, romlebmac xelSi aiRes<br />
iaraRi da xoces qarTvelebi. an me<br />
ra SuaSi var, an sazogadoebis nawili,<br />
vinc im ubedurebis Sedegi<br />
sakuTar tyavze iwvnia Semdeg?! ra<br />
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gnebavT, Tqveno uyaisnaResobav,<br />
yvelas agvkidoT pasuxismgebloba<br />
da am gziT SeimsubuqoT Tqveni<br />
wili pasuxismgebloba? amitom<br />
CagvZaxiT „magram, me vfiqrob, rom<br />
es erTdroulad yvelas pasuxismgeblobaa”?<br />
diax, Tqveno uyaisnaResobav,<br />
Cven gadavayeneT eduard SevardnaZe.<br />
Cemsa da mravlis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
vinc mxars uWerda „vardebis revolucias”,<br />
Tqven marTals brZanebT,<br />
magram bevri maSinac winaaRmdegi<br />
iyo im procesebisa da nu<br />
daakisrebT maT am pasuxismgeblobas.<br />
es maTTvis, vinc kinaRam saflavSi<br />
Cahyva SevardnaZes, me Tu<br />
mkiTxav, didi pativia. maT ar dau-<br />
WeriaT maSin mxari progresisTvis.<br />
rac Seexeba SevardnaZis saxlSi<br />
gamoketvas, jer erTi, vin gamoketa?<br />
da meorec, ver gavige, ra gnebavdaT,<br />
prezident saakaSvils saseirnod<br />
etarebina? miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom qveyanaSi revolucia moxda,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom arsebobda<br />
araerTi samxili SevardnaZisa<br />
da misi mTavrobis winaaRmdeg, gadamdgar<br />
prezidents xeli aravin<br />
axlo, darCa im rezidenciaSi, sadac<br />
mas, wesiT, aRarc ekuTvnoda yofna,<br />
iyo daculi saxelmwifo doneze,<br />
Rebulobda stumrebs, Jurnalistebs,<br />
Rebulobda pensias! diax,<br />
es pirvelad moxda damoukidebeli<br />
saqarTvelos istoriaSi, rodesac<br />
ar dawyebula xelisufalis<br />
devna Zalauflebis dakargvis Semdeg.<br />
da rogor moxda mere? gagaxsenebdiT,<br />
magram ra azri aqvs, rodesac<br />
iqiT saakaSvils anamusebT?<br />
Turme, nu ityviT da saakaSvili<br />
qveyanas imijs ulaxavs, saqarTveloSi<br />
rom ar Semoesvleba...<br />
„prezident saakaSvils gadadgmuli<br />
aqvs nabijebi, romlis mimarTac<br />
arsebobs kiTxvebi. vfiqrob,<br />
rom man am kiTxvebs unda upasuxos.<br />
ra Tqma unda, qveynisTvis uaryofiTia<br />
is imiji, rom saakaSvils<br />
saqarTveloSi ar Semoesvleba, magram<br />
amas politikosebmac, rogorc<br />
mmarTveli Zalidan, aseve opoziciidan,<br />
prezidentmac, xelisuflebamac<br />
unda mivceT civilizebuli<br />
forma, romelic Seuracxyofas<br />
ar miayenebs arc qveyanas da im<br />
samarTlebriv kiTxvebs, romelic<br />
saakaSvilTan mimarTebiT arsebobs,<br />
upasuxebs adekvaturad”, _ brZanebT<br />
omaxianad, brZanebT Tqven,<br />
utifrobis<br />
proTezi<br />
visac qveynidan Zlivs gagesvlebaT...<br />
da Tqven iqnebiT garanti,<br />
rom ivaniSvili cixeSi ar gamoamwyvdevs<br />
udanaSaulo saakaSvils?<br />
Tu Tqven mier aRzevebul Tqvens<br />
„padrugas” _ nino gvenetaZes Sercxveba<br />
da ar gamoitans dausabuTebel<br />
gadawyvetilebas?<br />
mainc, romel pasuxebs iTxovT,<br />
romelic ukve araerTxel miiReT?<br />
Tu Tqveni ocnebac egaa _ Tqven<br />
avlabarSi, mis mier aSenebul rezidenciaSi<br />
qsovoT da is gldanis<br />
cixeSi iyos gamomwyvdeuli?<br />
ra amoZravebs margvelaSvilis<br />
yaisnaRebs? _ es erTia da ra amo-<br />
ZravebT Tavad saakaSvilis yofil<br />
TanamebrZolebs? _ es, kidev, sxva...<br />
am TemiT spekulaciebi gamijnulebma,<br />
jer kidev, gamijvnamde<br />
daiwyes. maT es im upiratesobis<br />
mosapoveblad sWirdebodaT,<br />
romelic ugulavas unda moepovebina<br />
saakaSvilze. gaixseneT cxeli<br />
zafxulis cxeli postebi da gancxadebebi...<br />
es procesi arc axla sruldeba.<br />
amjerad maT rigebs giorgi va-<br />
SaZec Seemata. es Cven vuxmobT da<br />
vixseniebT vaSaZed, Torem ise reinkarnirebuli<br />
mefe giorgi I yofila:<br />
„uSiSi, viTarca uxorco”.<br />
„reaqciaSi” jaba jiSkarianTan<br />
kamaTisas man omaxianad SesZaxa,<br />
rom masze veranair saqmes ver aR-<br />
Zraven, radgan verafers upovian.<br />
„adeiSvils adeiSvilis mohkiTxe,<br />
saakaSvils _ saakaSvilis. maTgan<br />
gansxvavebiT qveynidan, ici, ratom<br />
ar gavrbivar? isini gaiqcnen,<br />
rogorc Cans, damnaSaveebi iyvnen.<br />
me, maTagn gansxvavebiT, am qveyana-<br />
Si var imitom, rom arc erTi danaSauli<br />
ar Camidenia. arc erTi<br />
adamianis ar meSinia”, _ brZana vaSa-<br />
Zem, uSiSma, viTarca uxorcom.<br />
Turme, fer-xorc-SiSiani saaka-<br />
Svili, „rogorc Cans”, damnaSave<br />
yofila da amitom gaqceula, uxorco<br />
vaSaZe ki imitomaa am qveyana-<br />
Si, rom arc erTi danaSauli ar Caudenia.<br />
Tu es asea da saakaSvili<br />
damnaSavea, ratom cdilobda ase<br />
gaafTrebiT mis partiaSi gavlenebis<br />
mopovebas? ras daiareboda ma-<br />
Sin kievebsa da odesebSi? ukacravad<br />
da maradiuli paraskevi mas Semdeg<br />
daudga, rac „Zexvs” ver Seswvda<br />
maSin bokerias frTis wyalobiT?<br />
saerTod, ra SuaSia an SiSi, an<br />
danaSaulis Cadena-arCadena saqarTveloSi<br />
darCenasTan? iqneb, yvelaferi,<br />
rogorc amboben, piriqi-<br />
Taa? imas ar axles xeli, vinc urTierTobebi<br />
gaarkvia ivaniSvilTan?<br />
vin daiWira ivaniSvilma? _ visic<br />
eSinoda da visganac safrTxes<br />
eloda! amitomac hyavs dRemde gamoketili<br />
axalaiac da merabiSvilic,<br />
sxvebi ki laRad daiarebian.<br />
da es laRad siaruli, zogis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu ivaniSvilTan garigebis<br />
Sedegia, umravlesobis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
iciT, risi Sedegia? _ imis,<br />
rom maTgan aranair safrTxes ar<br />
xedavs! Tqven ki ar xarT uSiSrebi,<br />
ivaniSvils ar eSinia Tqveni da amitomac<br />
xarT did gulze! martivad<br />
rom vTqvaT, vis daekargeT? an bi-<br />
Zinas ra stafilod unda Tqveni<br />
cixeSi gamoketva, an, miT umetes,<br />
putins?<br />
da sanam gaqcevas SiSsa da mSiSrobas<br />
daukavSirebT, kargad gadaxedeT<br />
istorias. vici, wyaroebSi<br />
qeqviT Tavs ar moiklavT, magram,<br />
iqneb, istoriul faqtebze dafuZnebul<br />
serialebs mainc SeavloT<br />
Tvali, sadac naxavT, rogor gaurbian<br />
mters saxelganTqmuli istoriuli<br />
figurebi, swored imitom,<br />
rom tyveobaSi ar aRmoCndnen da<br />
moqmedeba SeeZloT. vimeoreb: Tu<br />
kiTxvasTan mwyralad xarT, naxeT,<br />
uSiSrebo, seriali „Genghis Khan”,<br />
sadac aRmoaCenT, ramdenjer gaiqca<br />
Cingis xani, tyved rom ar Cavardniliyo.<br />
kievSi ki ara, matylis<br />
grovaSic ki imaleboda eg „mSiSara<br />
da mxdali”. naxeT Cingiz yaenze,<br />
uSiSrebo, mezobeli TurqeTis<br />
istoriuli seriali „Dirilis: Ertugrul”<br />
da naxeT, ramdenjer gaiqca osman-<br />
Ta imperiis fuZemdeblis, osman I-<br />
is legendaruli, mamaci mama er-<br />
TuRruli, tyved rom ar Cavardniliyo<br />
da mtris winaaRmdeg emoqmeda.<br />
naxeT Cingiz yaenze, mamacebo,<br />
samxreT koreuli „The Great<br />
Queen Seondeok” _ seriali koreelebis<br />
pirvel qal monarqze,<br />
romelic maT, jer kidev, me-7<br />
saukuneSi hyavdaT. kargad naxeT,<br />
ramdenjer gaiqca uSiSari princesa<br />
dokmani (SemdegSi koreul samefo<br />
Silas didi monarqi), rom Tavi<br />
daeRwia Sinauri Tu gareuli<br />
mtris tyveobisgan da STamomavlobisTvis<br />
daetovebina is, rac datova.<br />
magram eWvi maqvs, kedels cercvs<br />
vayri, eWvi maqvs, es yvelaferi<br />
gadasarevad iciT da mainc Tqvensas<br />
ar iSliT _ pirs „gimSvenebT”<br />
utifrobis proTezi.<br />
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cxra dRis ganmavlobaSi sakonstitucio cvlilebebis say-<br />
ovelTao-saxalxo ganxilva taSis damkvrelTa damkvreluri<br />
aqtivobiT mimdinareobda. administraciuli resursis mobilizeba<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam”, rogorc Cans, winamorbedi xelisu-<br />
flebisgan SesaniSnavad iswavla. qalaqebSi, sadac ganxilvebi<br />
mimdinareobda, srulad iyvnen mobilizebulebi gamgeobis, gu-<br />
berniis, sxvadasxva samxareo uwyebis TanamSromlebi. yvela<br />
Sexvedraze administraciuli resursi, daaxloebiT, 90%-s war-<br />
moadgenda. es xelisuflebas SesaZleblobas aZlevda, Tavis<br />
iniciativebze madlobis SeZaxilebi moesmina, xolo gansxvave-<br />
buli azri lanZRva-ginebiT CaexSo.<br />
bolo Sexvedraze, TbilisSi,<br />
viTareba kardinalurad Seicvala.<br />
xelisuflebas filarmoniaSi Sekrebilma<br />
2000-ma polit-aqtivistmac<br />
ver uSvela. xuTasamde gansxvavebuli<br />
azris mqone axalgazrdam da<br />
opozicionerma politikosebma sajaro<br />
ganxilva CaSales. maTi mxridan<br />
ori mTavari moTxovna ismoda.<br />
pirveli: qarTuli miwis ucxoelebze<br />
gayidvis akrZalva da meore:<br />
Sromis usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofa.<br />
gamwvavebul viTarebaSi yvelaze<br />
„sainteresod” parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare iqceoda, romelic<br />
ise gaRizianda, rom cecxlze nav-<br />
Tis dasxma daiwyo. kobaxiZem nervebi<br />
veRar moToka da gansxvavebuli<br />
mosazrebis mqone yvela adamians<br />
xan komunists da bolSeviks eZaxda<br />
da xanac _ ruseTumes. saqme<br />
iqamde mivida, rom xelisuflebam,<br />
romelmac procesebi ver marTa,<br />
scena datova.<br />
bunebrivia, Tbilisi iyo kulminacia,<br />
Tumca xelisuflebisTvis<br />
arasasurveli procesebi, jer kidev,<br />
baTumSi daiwyo. ver getyviT,<br />
saxelisuflebo rigebSi opozicia<br />
SeeparaT, Tu TavianTi mxardamWerebis<br />
mobilizebisas, ubralod,<br />
yuradReba moadunes, faqtia, rom<br />
baTumis universitetSi imdeni gansxvavebuli<br />
pozicia dafiqsirda,<br />
„ocnebis” interesebze morgebul<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebisTvis<br />
taSis damkvrelebic aRar aqtiurobdnen.<br />
administraciuli resursis mobilizeba<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam”, rogorc<br />
Cans, SesaniSnavad iswavla winamorbedi<br />
xelisuflebisgan. aTive<br />
qalaqSi, sadac ganxilvebi mimdinareobda,<br />
srulad iyvnen mobilizebulebi<br />
gamgeobis, guberniis,<br />
sxvadasxva samxareo uwyebis Tanam-<br />
Sromlebi. yvela Sexvedraze administraciuli<br />
resursi, daaxloebiT,<br />
90%-s warmoadgenda. es xelisuflebas<br />
SesaZleblobas aZlevda,<br />
yvela Tavis iniciativaze madlobis<br />
SeZaxilebi moesmina, xolo gansxvavebuli<br />
azri lanZRva-ginebiT<br />
CaexSo. pirveli „Secdoma” xelisuflebam<br />
baTumSi dauSva. ver getyviT<br />
saxelisuflebo rigebSi opozicia<br />
SeeparaT, Tu TavianTi mxardamWerebis<br />
mobilizebisas, ubralod,<br />
yuradReba moadunes, faqtia,<br />
baTumis universitetSi imdeni gansxvavebuli<br />
pozicia dafiqsirda,<br />
rom „ocnebis” interesebze morgebul<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebisTvis<br />
taSis damkvrelebic aRar aqtiurobdnen.<br />
ar gegonoT, rom xelisuflebis<br />
aqtivi baTumSi umciresobaSi<br />
iyo, ara, ubralod, imdenad<br />
bevri da argumentirebuli, gansxvavebuli<br />
azri gaisma, rom taSmeikerebsac<br />
ki SercxvaT, xelisuflebisTvis<br />
taSi daekraT. baTum-<br />
Si miRebulma galawunebam xelisufleba<br />
gamoafxizla, oRond ara im<br />
kuTxiT, rom konstitucia ise SeecvalaT,<br />
rogorc xalxs undoda,<br />
aramed im mimarTulebiT, rom meore<br />
dRes zugdidSi saerTod ar<br />
SeuSves opoziciis warmomadgenlebi<br />
darbazSi. rogorc ki, sxdomamde<br />
erTi saaTiT adre, zugdidis<br />
Wadrakis sasaxleSi Sesasvleli kari<br />
gaiRo, yvelam dainaxa, rom darbazi<br />
ukve pirTamde savsea. araTu<br />
dasajdomi, fexze dasadgomi adg-<br />
14<br />
ilebic ki winaswar iyo gadatenili.<br />
rogorc gairkva, adgilobrivma<br />
xelisuflebam mTeli Tavisi partaqtivi<br />
darbazSi ukana karidan<br />
Seiyvana, Tan TiToeul mxardamWers<br />
siebiT iZaxebdnen, emand vinme<br />
ucxo ar SehparvodaT. administraciuli<br />
resursis imedad rom dar-<br />
Ceba xelisufleba, yvela kargad<br />
xvdeba, romeli ufskrulis piras<br />
dgas is ukve.<br />
xelisuflebas erTi wamiTac ar<br />
Sercxvenia imis gamo, rom ca da<br />
dedamiwasaviT gansxvavdeba darbazSi<br />
Sekrebili adamianebis xedva da<br />
ganwyoba imisgan, rasac fiqrobs da<br />
iTxovs saqarTvelos danarCeni mosaxleoba.<br />
magaliTisTvis, qveynis<br />
mosaxleobis 90%-ze meti Riad<br />
acxadebs, rom momxrea prezidentis<br />
pirdapiri arCevis da iTxovs,<br />
rom es ufleba mas ar waaarTvan.<br />
darbazSi Sekrebili taSmeikerebi<br />
ki sakmarisia, parlamentis Tavmjdomarem<br />
Tqvas, rom prezidenti<br />
xalxma ki ara, 300-ma xmosanma unda<br />
airCioso, maSinve ovaciebiT xelebs<br />
ityaveben da esec rom ecotavebaT,<br />
gamodian mikrofonTan da prezidentis<br />
institutis saerTod<br />
gauqmebas iTxoven.<br />
igive damokidebulebaa saparlamento<br />
saarCevno sistemasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT: mTeli qveyana SesaniSnavad<br />
xvdeba, rom is, rac Sen ar<br />
gekuTvnis, ar unda waiRo. amas qurdoba<br />
hqvia. yvela xvdeba, rom<br />
qurdobaa, roca yvela im sadeputato<br />
mandats iTviseb, romelic<br />
amomrCevels SenTvis ar moucia. xelisuflebisTvis<br />
da misi aqtivistebisTvis<br />
amas araviTari mniSvneloba<br />
ar aqvs. mere ra, rom qurdobaa?<br />
mere ra, rom ar SeiZleba?<br />
mere ra, rom usamarTlobaa? mTavaria,<br />
rom ase unda imas, visac<br />
dRes Zala aqvs, morCa da gaTavda!<br />
dRevandeli saarCevno sistema,<br />
romelic 22 weliwadia, usamarTlobis<br />
simbolod iqca, imitomacaa<br />
`ocnebaze~ gamoWrili saarCevno<br />
sistema da ucxoelebze gasayidad<br />
gamzadebuli qarTuli miwebi<br />
taSmeikerebTan<br />
gamosacvleli, rom xelisufleba- ravlesoba, 117 deputati, mainc miiRo<br />
Si myofi ZalisTvis mudmivad daumsaxurebeli<br />
im partiam, romelsac misuli<br />
mandatebis miTvisebis<br />
amomrCevlebis naxevarze naklebma,<br />
saSualebas iZleva. dRes es ma- anu umciresobam dauWira mxari,<br />
Joritarebis meSveobiT xdeba da aseTi saarCevno garemo adamianebs,<br />
Sedegsac vxedavT:<br />
ubralod, imas afiqrebinebs, rom<br />
2008 wlis saparlamento arCevnebze<br />
araviTari azri am arCevnebs ar<br />
„nacionalebma” 59% miiRes, aqvs. aranairi Sansi imisa, rom xe-<br />
magram maJoritaruli sistemis wyalobiT<br />
lisufleba Secvalo aseTi arCevnidnen.<br />
parlamentSi 80%-iT SevebiT,<br />
ar arsebobs da droa, sxva melisufleba<br />
maSin, roca unda hyolodaT TodebiT vimoqmedoT. aseT dReSi<br />
88 deputati da mxolod saparlamento<br />
varT 22 weliwadia da yvelas rom<br />
umravlesoba, hyavdaT 120 egona, axali xelisufleba movida<br />
deputati da sakonstitucio umravlesoba.<br />
da awi samarTliani saarCevno sisamarTlo<br />
saboloo jamSi, am ustema<br />
gveRirsebao, mwared SevcdiT.<br />
saarCevno sistemis bra-<br />
„ocnebam” usamarTlobis aR-<br />
lia is uamravi absurduli sakonstitucio<br />
cvlileba, romlis meSveobiTac<br />
saakaSvili, praqtikulad,<br />
monarqi gaxda. igive moxda 2014<br />
wlis adgilobriv arCevnebze: „ocnebam”<br />
TbilisSi amomrCevlis mxolod<br />
44% miiRo, magram maJoritarebis<br />
meSveobiT mandatebis 76%<br />
miisakuTra. da yvelaze TvalsaCino<br />
magaliTi 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebia: „ocnebam” xmebis mxolod<br />
48% miiRo, anu saparlamento<br />
umravlesobisTvisac ki arasakmarisi<br />
raodenoba, magram yvela ma-<br />
Joritaris mogebiT (aseTi ram<br />
komunistebis Semdeg ar momxdara)<br />
mandatebis 78% miiTvisa. Sedegad,<br />
umciresobiT mxardaWerilma partiam<br />
sakonstitucio umravlesoba<br />
Seqmna.<br />
aseTi magaliTebis Semxedvares<br />
aRar giCndeba kiTxvebi, ratom aqvs<br />
qarTvel ers arCevnebisadmi amxela<br />
undobloba? saarCevno sistemis<br />
samarTlianoba mxolod politikuri<br />
partiebis interess ar warmoadgens.<br />
sistemis samarTlianoba,<br />
upirveles yovlisa, amomrCevlis<br />
interesSia. arCevnebisadmi undobloba<br />
vaxseneT da mTavari problemac<br />
swored esaa. roca adamianebi<br />
xedaven, rom, magaliTisTvis, bolo<br />
saparlamento arCevnebze misuli<br />
amomrCevlis umravlesobam,<br />
52%-ma, xma misca opoziciur partiebs,<br />
magram sakonstitucio um-<br />
mofxvra ki ar daiwyo, aramed erTi<br />
usamarTlobis meore usamarTlobiT<br />
Canacvleba gadawyvita. aRar<br />
iqneba daumsaxurebeli mandatebis<br />
miTvisebis saSualeba maJoritarebis<br />
meSveobiT? _ mere ra? samagierod,<br />
yvela gadaunawilebeli mandatis<br />
miTvisebiT miisakuTrebs<br />
imas, rac mas ar ekuTvnis da mainc<br />
darCeba xelisuflebaSi.<br />
konstituciis sajaro ganxilvebze<br />
mxareebs Zalian xSirad mohyavdaT<br />
mogonili, Teoriuli magaliTebi,<br />
romelTa cxovrebaSi<br />
ganxorcielebis Sansi TiTqmis ar<br />
arsebobs. arada, argumentebis<br />
gasamyareblad sul araa saWro ase-<br />
Ti Teoriebis gamogoneba. Cvens<br />
uaxles saparlamento istoriaSi<br />
uamravi konkretuli magaliTia<br />
imisa, Tu rogor katastroful<br />
Sedegebamde SeiZleba migviyvanos<br />
yvela gadaunawilebeli mandatis<br />
erTi partiisTvis mikuTvnebam.<br />
Cven amaze wina statiebSi detalurad<br />
ukve visaubreT, amitom mxolod<br />
zogadad gagaxsenebT:<br />
1995 wlis saparlamento arCevnebze<br />
gadaunawilebeli darCa<br />
62%. dRes es iqneboda 93 mandati;<br />
1999 wels darCa mandatebis 27%,<br />
rac pirvel adgilze gasuls miakuTvnebda<br />
daumsaxurebel 40 mandats;<br />
2004 wels darCa 26%, rac 39<br />
mandats niSnavs; 2016-Si ki gadaunawilebeli<br />
darCa 20%, rac kanoniT<br />
moparuli 30 mandati iqneboda.<br />
dameTanxmeT, es ricxvebi<br />
sruliad sakmarisia imisTvis, rom<br />
davrwmundeT, raoden seriozuli<br />
usamarTlobis winaSe SeiZleba aRmovCndeT<br />
saparlamento arCevnebis<br />
Semdeg. xom yvelas kargad gvesmis,<br />
rom aseTi yaCaRuri saarCevno<br />
sistema adamianebs arCevnebis mimarT<br />
ndobas ver daubrunebs. piriqiT<br />
is ufro metad gaaRrmavebs<br />
undoblobas, rac, Tavis mxriv,<br />
kidev ufro metad Seuwyobs xels<br />
politikuri procesebis radikalizacias.<br />
yofili xelisufleba,<br />
romelic darwmunebuli iyo, rom<br />
Tavis Tavze morgebuli maJoritaruli<br />
saarCevno sistemiT, sul<br />
mcire, 30 weliwadi iqneboda xelisuflebaSi,<br />
dRes Tavze nacardayrili,<br />
yoveldRe erTsa da imaves<br />
imeorebs, rom saarCevno sistemis<br />
sakuTar Tavze morgeba iyo<br />
Secdoma da a. S. marTalia, maTi sinanulis<br />
aravis sjera, magram yvelaze<br />
saSiSi isaa, rom „ocnebac”<br />
zustad igive gzas miuyveba. maTac<br />
gamoacxades, rom 2030 wlamde Cven<br />
unda viyoT xelisuflebaSio da<br />
maTac daiwyes saarCevno sistemis<br />
Tavis Tavze morgeba. gadaunawilebeli<br />
mandatebis misakuTreba, rogorc<br />
Cans, xelisuflebaSi uSfoTvelad<br />
yofnisTvis sakmaris berketad<br />
ar CaTvales da mTlianad<br />
politikuri speqtris ganadgureba<br />
gadawyvites. zustad es moxdeba,<br />
roca partiebs koaliciebis Seqmnis<br />
saSualebas waarTmev, riTac,<br />
praqtikulad, gaZlierebis Sanss<br />
mouspob da, amasTanave, barieri<br />
isev 5% iqneba. cnobisTvis: am 5%-<br />
iani barieris wyalobiT, gasul saparlamento<br />
arCevnebze, 300 aTasi<br />
amomrCeveli sakanonmdeblo organoSi,<br />
warmomadgenlis gareSe dar-<br />
Ca. anu amomrCevelTa 20% 5%-iani<br />
barieris qvemoT aRmoCnda.<br />
ai, ase imeorebs „nacionalebis”<br />
usamarTlo qmedebebs erTi erTSi<br />
„qarTuli ocneba”. Sesabamisad,<br />
Sors araa is dro, roca dRevandeli<br />
xelisuflebis wevrebi isev<br />
opoziciaSi iqnebian da Semdgom<br />
sajaro ganxilvebze isinic Tavze<br />
nacardayrilebi gvetyvian, rom<br />
maT mier saarCevno sistemis saku-<br />
Tar Tavze morgeba iyo Secdoma.<br />
sakiTxavia, _ qveyanas ra amisgan?!!<br />
saukunis meoTxedi gavida am moZalade<br />
xelisuflebebis yurebaSi,<br />
romlebic mxolod imaze fiqroben,<br />
rogor darCnen xelisuflebaSi,<br />
rac SeiZleba, didxans. qveyana ki,<br />
amasobaSi, erT adgils tkepnis da<br />
procesebis revoluciuri ganvi-<br />
Tarebis erTi da igive wreze brunavs.<br />
verc demokratiul institutebs<br />
vaSenebT da verc sazogadoebis<br />
keTildReobas vamaRlebT.<br />
Tavi da Tavi yvela ubedurebisa ki<br />
swored usamarTlo saarCevno sistemaa.<br />
usamarTlo sistemiT arCeuli<br />
xelisufleba, rogori revoluciuric<br />
ar unda iyos, saboloo<br />
jamSi, mainc ganicdis legitimaciis<br />
naklebobas. roca yvelam icis,<br />
rom xelisuflebam xelisufleba<br />
kanoniT, magram mainc moipara, misi<br />
legitimacia SeuZlebelia iyos ma-<br />
Rali. saarCevno sistema samarTliani<br />
saxelmwifos fundamentia,<br />
romelzedac unda daSendes uamravi<br />
demokratiuli instituti.<br />
aseTi institutebis damkvidreba<br />
ki mxolod iseT xelisuflebas<br />
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ganxiluli konstitucia<br />
SeuZlia, romelsac xalxis TvalSi<br />
legitimaciis problema ar gaaCnia;<br />
romelic samarTlian brZolaSia<br />
gamarjvebuli da mis gamarjvebas<br />
aRiarebs yvela, _ konkurentebic<br />
da sazogadoebac.<br />
saqarTvelos aseTi xelisufleba,<br />
komunistebze gamarjvebuli<br />
erovnuli moZraobis Semdeg, aRar<br />
hyolia. Sedegad, ukve 22 weliwadia,<br />
qveyanaSi yoveldRe saubaria<br />
samarTlian arCevnebze. rogorc<br />
Cans, imdens vizamT, rom am Temas<br />
mosagvareblad momdevno Taobas<br />
gadavulocavT, risTvisac isini<br />
Cveni madlierebi namdvilad ar<br />
iqnebian.<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebis<br />
sayovelTao-saxalxo ganxilvis<br />
procesSi arCevnebi erTaderTi<br />
Tema araa. gansakuTrebuli simwvaviT<br />
dadga qarTuli miwis ucxo<br />
qveynis moqalaqeebze gasxvisebis<br />
sakiTxi. opozicia kategoriulad<br />
iTxovs, rom konstituciaSi Caidos<br />
muxli, romelic miwis gasxvisebas<br />
ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebze erTxel<br />
da samudamod akrZalavs. jer<br />
kidev sakonstitucio komisiis mu-<br />
Saobis pirvel etapze opoziciam,<br />
kerZod ki komisiis wevrma dimitri<br />
lorTqifaniZem, daaregistrira<br />
konstituciuri cvlilebis proeqti,<br />
romelic iTvaliswinebda konstituciis<br />
21-e muxlSi Canaweris<br />
gakeTebas imis Taobaze, rom unda<br />
aikrZalos qarTuli miwebis ucxo<br />
qveynis moqalaqeebze gasxviseba.<br />
„qarTulma ocnebam” es iniciativa<br />
Caagdo, riTac Cveni qveyana, ukiduresad<br />
saSiSi perspeqtivis wina-<br />
Se datova. konstituciis sajaro<br />
ganxilvis procesSi naTlad gamoCnda<br />
is mizezebi, ris gamoc „ocnebam”<br />
ucxoelebze miwis gayidva<br />
gadawyvita. amis damalva xelisuflebas<br />
aRar xelewifeboda, radgan<br />
yvela qalaqSi, yvela Sexvedraze,<br />
politikosebi Tu rigiTi moqalaqeebi<br />
kategoriul protests<br />
gamoTqvamen miwebis ucxoelebze<br />
gayidvasTan dakavSirebiT, akrZalvas<br />
konstituciis doneze iTxoven.<br />
axla rac Seexeba „ocnebis” ramdenime<br />
arguments imasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, Tu ratom ar unda xelisuflebas<br />
qarTuli miwebis ucxoelebze<br />
miyidvis akrZalva? pirveli<br />
argumenti isaa, rom sakonstitucio<br />
sasamarTlom gaauqma moratoriumi,<br />
romelic 2013 wels miwebis<br />
ucxoelebisTvis gayidvazec<br />
iyo gamocxadebuli. Zalian saintereso<br />
argumentia. ubralod, yvelas<br />
unda gagaxsenoT, rom saubaria<br />
im sakonstitucio sasamarTloze,<br />
romelsac, jer kidev, „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” aqtivisti, giorgi<br />
papuaSvili xelmZRvanelobda.<br />
„nacionalebis” pozicia imasTan<br />
dakavSirerbiT, rom miwa iseTive<br />
produqtia, rogorc telefoni da<br />
is iseve unda gaiyidos, rogorc<br />
nebismieri sxva nivTi, albaT, yvelas<br />
gaxsovT. am Teoriis avtori<br />
kaxa benduqiZe iyo. e. i. „nacionalebis”<br />
daniSnulma mosamarTleebma<br />
qarTuli miwis arabebisTvis, indoelebisTvisa<br />
da pakistanelebisTvis<br />
miyidva rom dauSves, „qar-<br />
Tulma ocnebam” es yvelaferi mSvidad<br />
unda miiRos da araferi unda<br />
Secvalos. es kidev erTi naTeli<br />
magaliTia imisa, Tu rogor er-<br />
Ti erTSi emsgavsebian „qocebi” „nacebs”.<br />
sabolo jamSi, dRevandeli<br />
xelisufleba yofili xelisuflebis<br />
danaSaulebriv gadawyvetilebas<br />
Tavis samarTleblad iyenebs.<br />
mTelma qveyanam ki, amasobaSi, yurebi<br />
unda CamovyaroT, xelebi CamovuSvaT<br />
da Cumad vuyuroT imas,<br />
rogor iyidian im qarTul miwas,<br />
romelsac, saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
sicocxlis fasad ar atanda<br />
aravis Cveni winapari. rogorc Cans,<br />
arc dRevandel da ar yofil xelisuflebas<br />
ar esmis, rom amas mSvidad<br />
aravin Seegueba da qveynis<br />
yvela did qalaqSi, sadac ki ganxilva<br />
Catarda, es naTlad gamoCnda.<br />
„ocnebis” meore argumenti, Tu<br />
irakli kobaxiZe<br />
ratom ar unda davicvaT qarTuli<br />
miwa konstituciiT, aris is, rom<br />
ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebi, Turme,<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeobas miiReben<br />
da ise iyidian qarTul miwebs,<br />
ase rom, ra azri aqvs raime amkrZalavi<br />
normebis Caweras konstituciaSio?<br />
amaze opozicias rom gaemaxvilebina<br />
yuradReba, rogorc<br />
safrTxeze, kidev gasagebi iqneboda,<br />
magram roca am arguments xelisufleba<br />
iyenebs imis warmosaCenad,<br />
rom ra vqnaT, xom xedavT,<br />
azri ar aqvs miwis gayidvis akrZalvaso,<br />
namdvilad cudadaa saqme!..<br />
ra Tqma unda, es safrTxe arsebobs<br />
da is iseve unda moagvaros Cvenma<br />
qveyanam, rogorc nebismieri, saku-<br />
Tari Tavis pativismcemeli saxelmwifo<br />
akeTebs amas. unda gamkacrdes<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis<br />
gacema. ar SeiZleba, nebismier ucxoels,<br />
marjvniv da marcxniv, vurigoT<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba; ar<br />
SeiZleba, saqarTveloSi satvirTo<br />
gemiT Semoparul, tvirTSi damalul<br />
migrants, gemidan gadmosvlisTanave,<br />
moqalaqeobas rom vaxutebT.<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeobas<br />
damsaxureba unda sWirdebodes.<br />
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saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis msurvel<br />
ucxoels ramdenime weliwadi<br />
mainc xom unda daakvirdes saxelmwifo?..(?!!)<br />
xom unda gaverkveT,<br />
gvinda ki aseTi axali moqalaqe?..<br />
iqneb, teroristia, iqneb, kriminalia,<br />
an, iqneb, rame sxvaa?!! da Tu<br />
ramdenimewliani dakvirvebis Semdeg<br />
is Rirseuli adamiani da qveynis<br />
Rirseuli moqalaqe aRmoCnda,<br />
iqneb, mivaniWoT kidec moqalaqeoba<br />
da Tu survili gamoTqva, miwac<br />
mivyidoT, rogorc moqalaqes.<br />
raxan moqalaqeobis sakiTxs<br />
SevexeT, aqve SegaxsenebT, rom<br />
„ocneba” konstituciidan im normis<br />
amoRebasac apirebs, romelic<br />
ormag moqalaqeobas krZalavs. esaa<br />
„damoukidebeli” deputatis, salome<br />
zurabiSvilis iniciativa,<br />
romelic, erTi SexedviT, ucxoeT-<br />
Si mcxovreb im Cvens moqalaqeebze<br />
zrunviTaa ganpirobebuli, romlebmac<br />
sxva qveynis moqalaqeoba<br />
miiRes da, Sesabamisad, saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeoba dakarges. erTi<br />
SexedviT, humanuri aqtia, magram,<br />
meore mxriv, Zalian didi safrTxis<br />
matarebelia. sainteresoa, ratom<br />
daaviwyda am iniciativis avtors<br />
da mis mxardamWer mTel xelisuflebas,<br />
rom ormagi moqalaqeobis<br />
daSvebis SemTxvevaSi, saqarTveloSi<br />
ramdenime TveSi gaCndeba<br />
asobiT aTasi saqarTvelos<br />
iseTi moqalaqe, romelsac, imavdroulad,<br />
sxva qveynis, magaliTad,<br />
ruseTis, an TurqeTis moqalaqeobac<br />
eqneba.<br />
davijero, xelisuflebaSi aravis<br />
axsovs, rogor iyenebs igive ruseTi<br />
saakuTari moqalaqeebis dacvis<br />
arguments mezobeli qveynebis<br />
okupaciisTvis?!. es an windauxedaobaa,<br />
an Segnebuli mtroba. orive<br />
SemTxvevaSi esaa naTeli magaliTi<br />
imisa, rom qveyanas marTaven<br />
adamianebi, romlebsac saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
azrovnebis natamalic ar<br />
gaaCniaT.<br />
rac Seexeba „ocnebis” mesame<br />
arguments imasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
Tu ratom ar unda aikrZalos qar-<br />
Tuli miwebis gayidva ucxo qveynis<br />
moqalaqeebze: rogorc parlamentis<br />
axalgazrda Tavmjdomarem<br />
ganacxada, saqarTveloSi aris bankebi,<br />
romelTa TanadamfuZneblebi<br />
arian ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebi.<br />
amitom roca aseTi banki giraoSi<br />
Caidebs qarTul miwas, xolo im<br />
SemTxvevaSi, Tu miwis mflobeli<br />
veRar gadaixdis sesxs, es miwa xom<br />
banks darCeba? Sedegad, ucxoeli<br />
`ocnebam~ usamarTlobis aRmofxvra ki ar daiwyo, aramed erTi<br />
usamarTlobis meore usamarTlobiT Canacvleba gadawyvita. aRar iqneba<br />
daumsaxurebeli mandatebis miTvisebis saSualeba maJoritarebis meSveobiT? -<br />
mere ra? samagierod, yvela gadaunawilebeli mandatis miTvisebiT<br />
miisakuTrebs imas, rac mas ar ekuTvnis da mainc darCeba xelisuflebaSi.<br />
konstituciis sajaro ganxilvebze mxareebs Zalian xSirad mohyavdaT<br />
mogonili, Teoriuli magaliTebi, romelTa cxovrebaSi ganxorcielebis Sansi<br />
TiTqmis ar arsebobs. arada, argumentebis gasamyareblad sul araa saWro<br />
aseTi Teoriebis gamogoneba. Cvens uaxles saparlamento istoriaSi uamravi<br />
konkretuli magaliTia imisa, Tu rogor katastroful Sedegebamde SeiZleba<br />
migviyvanos yvela gadaunawilebeli mandatis erTi partiisTvis mikuTvnebam~<br />
bankiri mainc gaxdeba qarTuli<br />
miwis mesakuTre da raRa azri aqvs<br />
miwis gayidvis akrZalvaso?(?!!) aba,<br />
rogoria, ha?!. aRiareT, rom es<br />
argumenti qvas xeTqavs!.. daujerebelia,<br />
magram faqtia, _ parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare gvimtkicebs, rom<br />
qarTuli miwebis ucxoelebze gayidvas<br />
imitom ver avkrZalavT, rom<br />
ucxoeli bankiri qarTvel glexs<br />
miwas rom waarTmevs, kanoni azrs<br />
dakargavso... arada, am sakiTxis mogvarebis<br />
gza, jer kidev, XX saukunis<br />
dasawyisSi TviT ilia WavWavaZem<br />
SemogvTavaza: man mkafiod ganacxada,<br />
rom xiznebs, anu ucxoelebs,<br />
miwa ar unda gadaeceT sakuTrebaSi,<br />
xolo is miwebi, romlebic<br />
dagiravebulia da maTi dakargvis<br />
safrTxe dgas, saxelmwifom<br />
unda gamoisyidos. amitomac Seqmna<br />
ilia WavWavaZem saadgilmamulo<br />
banki. aseTi praqtika bevrma evropulma<br />
qveyanam danerga da warmatebasac<br />
miaRwia. saxelmwifom unda<br />
Seqmnas agrobanki, romlic mciremiwian<br />
qarTvel glexs daexmareba,<br />
warmatebuli fermeri gaxdes, romlis<br />
mizani iqneba ara komerciuli<br />
mogeba, aramed agraruli seqtoris<br />
ganviTareba.<br />
xelisuflebac aSkarad xedavs<br />
mosaxleobis erTmniSvnelovan pozicias<br />
da cdilobs ra miwis ucxoelebze<br />
gayidviT gamowveuli<br />
protesti gaanelos, gvpirdeba,<br />
rom garkveul SemzRudav regulaciebs<br />
organul kanonSi gaiTvaliswinebs.<br />
imedia, yvela naTlad xedavs,<br />
rom miwis dasacavad es arasakmarisia.<br />
araTu arasakmarisia,<br />
sruliad arafris momcemi dacvis<br />
meqanizmia. organuli kanonis Secvlas<br />
deputatTa naxevari, anu 76 xma<br />
sWirdeba. nebismieri liberaluri<br />
xelisufleba da, aseTi bevrjer<br />
gvyolia, uproblemod Secvlis<br />
organul kanons da sanam Cven isev<br />
vaiZulebT gayidvebis SeCerebas,<br />
aTasobiT ha aRmoCndeba arabebisa<br />
Tu indoelebis sakuTrebaSi. amitom<br />
qarTuli miwis dacvis erTaderTi,<br />
met-naklebad, efeqtiani meqanizmi<br />
aris konstituciaSi imis<br />
dafiqsireba, rom qarTuli miwis<br />
gasxviseba ucxo qveynis moqalaqeze<br />
aris akrZaluli.<br />
amas garda, arsebobs kidev erTi<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovani mizezi, Tu<br />
ratom unda iyos es damcavi meqanizmi<br />
konstituciaSi da ara _ sxvagan?<br />
yvela vxedavT, Tu rogor<br />
zewolas ganicdian Cveni afxazi<br />
Tanamemamuleebi miwebis gayidvas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT. ukve mravali welia,<br />
ruseTi maTgan iTxovs, rom<br />
ruseTis moqalaqeebs afxazeTSi<br />
miwebis yidvis saSualeba mieceT.<br />
patrioti afxazebi ki kbilebiT<br />
icaven TavianT miwas. maT SesaniSnavad<br />
esmiT, rom Tu ruseTma Tavisi<br />
gaitana, ramdenime weliwadSi<br />
afxazebi afxazeTSi iseT umciresobaSi<br />
aRmoCndebian, rom sanTliT<br />
saZebneli iqnebian. Zneli saTqmelia,<br />
ramden xans gauZleben afxazebi<br />
am wnexs? da Tu mainc gasxvisda<br />
miwebi, saqarTvelos teritoriuli<br />
mTlianobis aRdgenis<br />
Semdeg, erTaderTi samarTlebrivi<br />
meqanizmi, romliTac gasxvisebuli<br />
miwebis ukan dabrunebis moTxovna<br />
unda dadges, saqarTvelos konstitucia<br />
da masSi arsebuli Canaweri<br />
iqneba. garda amisa, dRes gakeTebuli<br />
am CanaweriT, afxazebs naTlad<br />
davanaxvebT, rom Cven iseTi ram<br />
gvaqvs saerTo, _ miwa, _ romlisTvisac<br />
brZola erTad ufro<br />
Sedegiani iqneba, vidre cal-calke.<br />
erTi sityviT, ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebze<br />
qarTuli miwis miyidvis<br />
legalizeba seriozul problemebs<br />
gviqadis. mosaxleobis pozicia<br />
naTelia, mamulis gasxvisebas<br />
aravin Seegueba. miwa aris is, ris<br />
dacvasac genetika gvavaldebulebs.<br />
qarTuli miwa ar ekuTvnis romelime<br />
qarTul Taobas, _ arc Zvels,<br />
arc dRevandels da arc momaval<br />
Taobebs, is ekuTvnis yvela<br />
Taobas erTad, amitomac arc erT<br />
Taobas ar aqvs ufleba, gaasxvisos<br />
miwa da samudamo mflobelobaSi<br />
gadasces is ucxoelebs. erTader-<br />
Ti, visac SeiZleba gadavceT miwa,<br />
iseve, rogorc ena da sarwmunoeba,<br />
arian Cveni Svilebi, anu momavali<br />
Taoba, romelmac Cvens magaliTze<br />
unda iswavlos, rom maTac es sagan-<br />
Zuri mxolod Tavis Svilebs gadascen<br />
da aravis _ sxvas.<br />
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dac quTaislebs moaTxovnines, gadaitanon<br />
aqedan parlamentio, magram<br />
arc mTlad umagisoba iyo. magaliTad,<br />
soso lagvilava, romelic<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis xelisuflebis<br />
aqtiuri mxardamWeri gaxldaT,<br />
roca man guram absanZe Tanamdebobaze<br />
daniSna, Sexvedris ganmavlobaSi<br />
TiTqmis ar damjdara: mikrofonTan<br />
idga da darajobda,<br />
rogorc devi _ wyaros saTaves.<br />
adgilobrivi uSiSroebis yofili<br />
Sefis simamri gulwrfeli iyo _<br />
swored aseTi ganxilvebia misi da<br />
misnairebis keTildReobis wyaro...<br />
darbazSi wina rigebSi ekavaT<br />
adgili „evropuli saqarTvelos”<br />
wevrebs. zurab WiaberaSvilma da<br />
laSa dameniam ironiuli Rimili<br />
ver Seikaves, roca zugdidis saxelmwifo<br />
Teatris yofilma direqtorma<br />
da enm-s aqtiurma mxardam-<br />
Werma, maia kalandiam, mikrofon-<br />
Tan misvla ris vai-vaglaxiT moaxerxa<br />
da isini gaakritika, _ aq ar<br />
unda isxdeTo.<br />
maia kalandia iyo swored is er-<br />
TaderTi piri, vinc zugdidSi Casulebs<br />
da darbazSi saxeldaxelod<br />
Sekrebil sajaro moxeleebs<br />
idilia daurRvia. mis gamosvlas<br />
Tan wamoZaxili da CoCqoli axlda<br />
_ darbazis agresiulad morCili<br />
umravlesoba cdilobda, kalandia<br />
gaeCumebina, magram man saTqmeli<br />
bolomde Tqva da mere protestis<br />
niSnad darbazi datova.<br />
maia kalandiam nodar dumbaZe<br />
gaixsena da kobaxiZes, aseve sakanonmdeblo<br />
da aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebis<br />
sxva warmomadgenlebs<br />
„me, bebia, iliko da ilarioni” gaaxsena,<br />
mere ki safrangeTSi darCezugdiduri<br />
kuluarebi<br />
iyo, im „cxrawliani reJimis”<br />
laSa berulava<br />
dros winaswar dagegmili, mkacrad<br />
599 89 07 42<br />
gansazRvruladgilebiani sxdome-<br />
bisa da ganxilvebis meti ra iyo _<br />
zugdidlebs yvelaferi axsovT... magram imas, rac „qarTulma<br />
ocnebam” zugdidSi dadga, saakaSvilis xelisuflebis dros analogs<br />
ver uZebnian da ufro Rrma warsulSi _ SevardnaZis-<br />
droindelSi inacvleben.<br />
msgavsi Sexvedrebis organizebiT,<br />
warsulis gamocdilebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT, SevardnaZis adgilobrivi<br />
xelisuflebidan mainc<br />
qobuleTis raikomis yofili mdivani<br />
da maSin samegrelos gubernatori<br />
bondo jiqia gamoirCeoda:<br />
iseT TaTbirs moscxebda, gamgeblebis<br />
TandaswrebiT, regionSi<br />
arsebuli problemebis ganxilvis<br />
mizniT, rom Seni mowonebuli.<br />
magram saqme is iyo, rom mxolod<br />
TviTon ganixilavda da gamgeblebs<br />
mxolod asmeninebda. zogs Serisxavda,<br />
zogs dauyvavebda, zogs gautarebda<br />
da kreba rCeboda mxiaruli,<br />
Jurnalistebi ki mere imaze<br />
vdardobdiT, rogor da ramdenad<br />
gagveWra gubernatoris gamosvla<br />
ise, rom darbazis kadrebic gamo-<br />
Ceniliyo da siuJetSi _ Cveni teqstic.<br />
roca TbilisSi konstituciis<br />
aRdgenis sazeimo ceremonialze<br />
mimavali eduard SevardnaZe aafe-<br />
Tqes, meore dResve zugdidSi kreba<br />
Catarda. „moqalaqeTa kavSiris”<br />
aqtivi, sruli SemadgenlobiT<br />
Sekrebili, erTsulovnad ukravda<br />
taSs saxelmwifo meTauris gadar-<br />
Cenas da gubernatorisgan miTiTebac<br />
miiRo, TbilisSi, saxelmwifo<br />
kancelariaSi, saxelmwifos meTauris<br />
saxelze depeSebi gaegzavnaT,<br />
sadac mas gadarCenas miulocavdnen<br />
da damnaSaveebis mkacrad dasjas<br />
moiTxovdnen da es davalebebi<br />
pirdapir, mediis TandaswrebiT gaicemoda.<br />
mogvianebiT, aseTi speqtaklebi<br />
ukve zugdidSi tardeboda _ SevardnaZis<br />
TandaswrebiT.<br />
magram bondo gaguas TqmiT, Sedareba<br />
mainc ar SeiZleba:<br />
„ara, Zmao, me am speqtakls miSas<br />
16<br />
`konstitucia rom prostituciaSi<br />
eSlebaT, iseTi xalxi Seikriba~<br />
da misi xelisuflebis dros dadgmulebs<br />
ver Sevadareb, qarTuli<br />
filmi roa, „Sno”, xom gaqvT nanaxi?<br />
egrea am Sedarebis ambavic: imaT<br />
Sno hqondaT da ise dgamdnen, rom<br />
„draivs” rom eZaxian, isic iyo, interesic,<br />
drois gasvlasac ver<br />
gaigebdi da sxvagvar azrsac iTvaliswinebdnen,<br />
aq ki ra xdeboda, ra<br />
vnaxeT? mikrofonTan dadarajebuli<br />
odiozuri saxeebi, romlebic<br />
cdilobdnen, sityvis saTqmelad<br />
ar mieSvaT aravin, visac sxvagvari<br />
pozicia hqonda da xelisuflebisgan<br />
gansxvavebuli mosazrebis ga-<br />
JRerebas apirebda”, _ uTxra<br />
„qronika+”-s zugdidelma bondo<br />
gaguam, romelic didi mondomebiT<br />
cdilobda darbazSi Sesvlas, magram<br />
es ver moaxerxa:<br />
„diliT adre mivedi, SenobasTan<br />
axlos gaviar-gamoviare da ras vxedav?<br />
ukve ar gaumagrebiaT birJa?<br />
ager, Cemi mezobeli, gamgeobis TanamSromeli,<br />
samsaxurSi misaswreb<br />
droze gasuli eg me saxlidan ar<br />
minaxavs da aq ram moiyvana am SabaT<br />
dilas-meTqi? _ vifiqre maSinve,<br />
magram mere Cemi kidev erTi<br />
nacnobi davinaxe: gamowkepili da<br />
saguldagulod dabanil-davarcxnili,<br />
lurji perangiT da pijakiT,<br />
eg erTi soflis koordinatori<br />
iyo arCevnebis dRes. mere Cemma<br />
nacnobma, visTan erTadac vapirebdi<br />
ganxilvaze Sesvlas, Cveni ubnis<br />
sabavSvo baRis gamge miCvena. mokled,<br />
mTeli sajaro samsaxurebi<br />
iyo gamoyvanili da Tanac, dilidan,<br />
rom „arasasurvel pirebs”<br />
ver miscemodaT saSualeba, darbazSi<br />
Sesuliyvnen”, _ ambobs is.<br />
marTalia, zugdidSi iseTi margalitebi<br />
ar gamouTqvamT, rogoric<br />
ambrolaurSi da quTaisSi, sa-<br />
nili Tavisi ojaxis wevrebi Seicoda<br />
(maia kalandias qaliSvili parizSia<br />
gaTxovili da safrangeTis<br />
moqalaqea, _ avt.), romlebsac<br />
pirdapiri wesiT mouwiaT emanuel<br />
makronis arCeva:<br />
„minda gagaxsenoT pasaJi nodar<br />
dumbaZis romanidan „me, bebia, iliko<br />
da ilarioni”, roca iliko<br />
CigogiZe uxsnis ilarion SevardnaZes,<br />
_ ra kargia erTi Tvali da<br />
ra cudia ori Tvali. zustad igive<br />
STabeWdileba Semeqmna dRes, roca<br />
batoni irakli kobaxiZe usamZimrebda<br />
im qveynebs, sadac prezidents<br />
pirdapiri wesiT irCeven.<br />
lamis, impulsi gamiCnda _ Cemi<br />
ojaxis wevrebs, romelTac safrangeTSi<br />
prezidenti emanuel<br />
makroni airCies, gavugzavno depe-<br />
Sa, _ ra cudia, rom maT prezidenti<br />
pirdapiri wesiT airCies da ra<br />
kargia 300 xmosnis mier arCeuli<br />
momavali prezidenti... me ar movsulvar<br />
aq diskusiisTvTvis, polemikaSi<br />
ar CaverTvebi erTi ubralo<br />
mizezis gamo: rasac am e. w. sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebSi vkiTxulob,<br />
es aris SeTqmuleba saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifos, saqarTvelos<br />
konstituciis winaaRmdeg.<br />
vaproptesteb, agreTve, „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” monawileobas<br />
am procesSi. roca zviad ZiZigurma<br />
mogilocaT, rom „Tqven iqidan<br />
gamoxvediT” da Tqvenc kveri daukariT,<br />
unda SegaxsenoT, rom Tqven<br />
naxevarma milionma amomrCevelma<br />
mogcaT xma im adamianis gamo, romlis<br />
suraTi dagqondaT mTeli<br />
arCevnebis periodSi.<br />
Tqven dRes magonebT personaJebs<br />
eduardo de filipos komediidan<br />
„cilindri”, romelnic ganasaxiereben,<br />
Tu rogor SeiZleba adamianma<br />
Rirseba aiyaros imisTvis, rom miiRos<br />
is, rac mTavaria misTvis.<br />
Tqven amas ver miiRebT _ Tqven<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg<br />
SeTqmulebis mizniT mosul<br />
biZina ivaniSvilTan erTad darCebiT<br />
gareT, rogorc danarCeni”.<br />
rasakvirvelia, mxiarulad dar-<br />
Cenili krebis dasrulebis Semdeg<br />
krebam sxva adgilas gadainacvla _<br />
cxare kamaTma da demokartiisTvis<br />
damaxasiaTebelma polemikam xom<br />
moSieba icis..<br />
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saqarTvelos konstituciam<br />
bolo cvlileba 2010 wels ganicada. maSin miaCndaT, rom saakaSvilma<br />
konstitucia sakuTari xelisuflebis interesebs moar-<br />
go, Tumca Secvlilma konstituciam saakaSvilis momavali ver<br />
gansazRvra da igi mxolod eqsprezidentad darCa. miTi imaze,<br />
rom saakaSvili momavalSi premier-ministri gaxdeboda, miTad<br />
darCa. maSin opoziciuri speqtri miiCnevda, rom prezidentis<br />
uflebamosilebis Sekveca da premieris institutis gaZliere-<br />
ba arasasurvel Sedegebs moutanda qveyanas, Tumca aRmoCnda,<br />
rom igive opoziciis garkveuli nawili, romelic dRes ukve<br />
xelisuflebaSia, prezidentis uflebamosilebis gaasmagebul<br />
Sekvecas axla siaxaruliT miesalmeba.<br />
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parlamentis Tavmjdomaris<br />
gancxadeba, rom prezidenti zepartiuli<br />
unda iyos, mas mxolod samasi<br />
xmosani unda irCevdes 3 milioni<br />
qarTvelis nacvlad, sazogadoebis<br />
didi nawilisTvis miuRebelia.<br />
magram Zala aRmarTs xnavs da<br />
xelisufleba Tavisas agrZelebs...<br />
realurad, „qarTuli ocnebis” ganrisxeba<br />
margvelaSvilis misamar-<br />
TiT bolo wlebia, swored erT<br />
mTavar safuZvels emsaxureba, rom<br />
margvelaSvilma uRalata gunds,<br />
romelmac moiyvana igi prezidentad<br />
da ar iTvaliswinebs „qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” warmomadgenelTa<br />
azrs. Sesabamisad, xalxis arCeuli<br />
prezidenti dResac zepartiulia...<br />
yvela sajaro ganxilvaze komisia<br />
da misi wevrebi, romlebic moqalaqeebs<br />
xvdebian, mxolod da mxolod,<br />
zepirsityvierd uxsnian<br />
cvlilebebis Sesaxeb, mosalodneli<br />
cvlilebebi beWdviTi saxiT ki<br />
arsad rigdeba.<br />
ganxilva TelavSi wina ganxilvebisgan<br />
erTi mTavari niSniT gansxvavdeboda:<br />
ratomRac, moqalaqeebidan<br />
aravis miuZRvnia diTirambebi<br />
xelisuflebisTvis. ufro xSiri<br />
kritikuli gamosvlebi iyo.<br />
Tumca kaxelebis yvelaze meti<br />
yuradReba TviTmmarTvelobasTan<br />
dakavSirebulma cvlilebebma miiqcia.<br />
„parlamenti velodebiT mTavrobis<br />
pozicias. iciT, rom am Temaze<br />
muSaoba mimdinareobs. Tavis<br />
droze, roca gadawyvetileba miiRes<br />
qalaqisa da raionis gayofis<br />
Taobaze, me piradad viyavi amis winaaRmdegi”,<br />
_ ganacxada parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare irakli kobaxiZem<br />
TelavSi, sakonstitucio cvlilebebis<br />
ganxilvisas NIMD-is Telavis<br />
demokratiis skolis koordinatoris,<br />
nikoloz SarvaSiZis mier<br />
dasmuli kiTxvis pasuxad.<br />
„ramdenime Tvis winaT gaxmovanda,<br />
rom 7 TviTmmarTveli qalaqi<br />
isev municipalitetebTan unda gaerTiandes.<br />
amis winaaRmdeg qalaq<br />
TelavSi xelmowerebis Segrovebac<br />
daiwyo, saprotesto aqciebic gaimarTa.<br />
mainteresebs Tqvengan, parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomarisgan, umravlesobis,<br />
umciresobis liderebisgan<br />
kidev ganixileba Tu ara dRes<br />
es sakiTxi da ra formiT?” _ dasva<br />
kiTxva nikoloz SarvaSiZem.<br />
„Tavis droze, gadawyvetileba<br />
koaliciur reJimSi miiReboda. es<br />
fiskaluri riskebi awon-dawones<br />
da ise gaakeTes, rom TviTmmarTveloba<br />
gaiyo. damatebiTi resursis<br />
saWiroeba Cndeboda da imisTvis,<br />
rom problema ar Seqmniliyo,<br />
meti fuli daamates 7 qalaqraions:<br />
Telavs, ambrolaurs, mcxeTasa<br />
da a. S. realurad, problemebi<br />
Tavidan avirideT imis xarjze,<br />
rom, magaliTad, Telavs dRes proporciulad<br />
imaze meti fuli aqvs,<br />
vidre gurjaans, lagodexsa da<br />
yvarels. realurad, es iyo maSindeli<br />
gadawyvetileba. me im azrze<br />
vrCebi, rogorc iyo Tavis droze,<br />
qalaqisa da raionis gayofis winaaRmdegi<br />
var”, _ ganacxada irakli<br />
kobaxiZem.<br />
misive TqmiT, mTavrobam TviTmmarTveli<br />
qalaqebis statusis sakiTxi<br />
mosaxleobisa da TviTmmarTvelobebSi<br />
dasaqmebuli adamianebis<br />
interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
unda gadawyvitos: „Tumca ar<br />
unda miviRoT iseTive araswori<br />
gadawyvetileba, rogorc _ Tavis<br />
droze. gaerTianebasac axlavs sirTuleebi,<br />
maT Soris, _ mosaxleobis<br />
interesebi. arc erT SemTxvevaSi<br />
es gadawyvetileba ar unda<br />
miviRoT seriozuli gansjis gare-<br />
Se. velodebiT mTavrobis pozicias<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT da amis Semdeg<br />
SevjerdebiT”, _ aRniSna parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomarem. kobaxiZis<br />
gancxadebiT, mTavroba aqtiurad<br />
muSaobs adgilobrivi TviTmmar-<br />
Tvelobebis decentralizaciis<br />
strategiaze.<br />
Telavs, mcxeTas, gors, axalcixes,<br />
ozurgeTs, ambrolaursa da<br />
zugdids TviTmmarTveli qalaqis<br />
statusi 2014 wels mieniWa. statusis<br />
miniWebis ZiriTadi mizezi am<br />
qalaqebSi gubernatorebis administraciis<br />
ganTavseba iyo. cota<br />
xnis winaT gavrcelda informacia,<br />
rom mTavroba TviTmmarTveli qalaqebis<br />
raodenobis Semcirebas<br />
gegmavs 12-dan isev 5-mde. regionuli<br />
ganviTarebis saministroSi<br />
daadastures, rom am sakiTxze muSaoba<br />
mimdinareobs. „adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTveloba CvenTvis yvelaze<br />
mtkivneuli sakiTxia. me, rogorc<br />
erTi moqalaqe, gTxovT, xeli<br />
ar daadoT TviTmmarTveli qalaq<br />
Telavis statuss”, _ ase mimarTa<br />
qalaq TelavSi mcxovrebma, municipalitetis<br />
gamgeobis TanamSromelma<br />
arCil mWedliSvilma Telav-<br />
Si sakonstitucio cvlilebebis<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
`mospeT sistemuri xorcmeti<br />
rwmunebul-gubernatoris<br />
instituti~<br />
ganxilvaze Sekrebil parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomares, umravlesobisa da<br />
umciresobis liderebs.<br />
„2014 wlidan dRemde am sistemam<br />
gaamarTla, rogorc TemSi,<br />
aseve qalaqSi. ar vici, sxvagan ra<br />
xdeba, magram zustad vici, qalaq<br />
TelavSi rac xdeba. zustad vici,<br />
ramdeni rame wavida dadebiTisken<br />
mas Semdeg, rac Cven TviTmmarTveli<br />
qalaqis statusi movipoveT da<br />
TviTmmarTveli Temi Camoyalibda.<br />
merwmuneT, amaze cuds verafers<br />
gaakeTebT. Tavi daanebeT, Zalian<br />
gTxovT! miuSviT, ganviTardes adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTveloba da<br />
Tu namdvilad gvinda adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis ganvi-<br />
Tareba, daangrieT, mospeT sistemuri<br />
xorcmeti rwmunebul-gubernatoris<br />
instituti.<br />
me pativs vcem moqmed gubernator<br />
irakli qadagiSvils, magram<br />
institutis winaaRmdegi var. es<br />
iqneba pirveli nabiji, romelic<br />
xels Seuwyobs adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
ganviTarebas”, _ ganacxada<br />
arCil mWedliSvilma. misive<br />
TqmiT, daniSnuli gubernatori<br />
ar unda ibarebdes qalaqis<br />
arCeul mers da „Wkuas ar unda<br />
arigebdes”.<br />
„aq kritikuli SeniSvnebi gamoiTqva<br />
gubernatoris institut-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT. zogadad, Zlian<br />
cudi tradicia gvqonda, gubernatorebi<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi gvevlinebodnen,<br />
rogorc erTgvari,<br />
komisrebi, adgilobrivi xelisuflebis<br />
mimarT aseTi damokidebuleba<br />
iyo, Tumca dRes es radikalurad<br />
Secvlilia. rac Seexeba im<br />
praqtikas, rodesac gubernatori<br />
Tavze ajda, ukacravad am terminisTvis,<br />
TviTmmarTvelobas da mis<br />
funqciebSi ereoda, es praqtika<br />
dRes aRar aris”, _ ganacxada irakli<br />
kobaxiZem (Tumca kobaxiZes daaviwyda<br />
yofili gubernatori irakli<br />
SiolaSvili, romelic uSualod<br />
ejda Tavze yvela municipalitets<br />
da es araerTxel damtkicebula,<br />
dRes ki SiolaSvili parlamentaria).<br />
„Tu fiqrobT, rom TviTmmarTvelobebis<br />
gazrdam ar gaamarTla,<br />
ifiqreT imaze, rom kadrebma ar<br />
gagimarTlaT im TviTmmarTvelobebSi<br />
da ara TviTon sistemam”, _<br />
amis Sesaxeb TelavSi, sakonstitucio<br />
cvlilebebis sayovelTao-saxalxo<br />
ganxilvisas, moqalaqe nodar<br />
eJiSvilma ganacxada. man xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs mimarTa<br />
da TviTmmarTvelobebis gaZlierebisken<br />
mouwoda. „sanam es sakiTxi<br />
parlamentamde miva, minda gTxovoT,<br />
gaiTvaliswinoT, decentralizacia<br />
demokratiul pirobebSi<br />
mniSvnelovania. mogveciT ufleba,<br />
rom Telavi iyos TviTmmarTveli<br />
qalaqi. mesmis, swrafad miiReT<br />
gadawyvetileba da TviTmmarTvel<br />
qalaqebs es statusi mieciT, Tumca,<br />
saboloo jamSi, aman gaamarTla.<br />
Tu fiqrobT, rom ar gaamarTla,<br />
ifiqreT imaze, rom kadrebma<br />
ar gagimarTlaT im TviTmmarTvelobebSi<br />
da ara TviTon sistemam”,<br />
_ aRniSna reJaSvilma.<br />
sityva „konstitucia” momdinareobs<br />
laTinuri warmoSobis sityvisagan<br />
da qarTulad niSnavs dadgenas,<br />
dawesebas. epoqa yovelTvis<br />
axdenda zegavlenas konstituciis<br />
Sinaarsze. garkveuli saxisa<br />
da Sinaarsis konstituciebi kacobriobis<br />
ganviTarebis umniSvnelovanesi<br />
periodebis Sesatyvisia.<br />
dRevandeli xelisuflebis<br />
cvlilebebic swored misi znisa da<br />
xasiaTis cvlilebebs hgavs.<br />
me, rigiTma moqalaqem ki erTi<br />
ram vici, riT gansxvavdeba 1921<br />
wlis konstitucia dRevandelisgan:<br />
miuxedavad maSindeli umZimesi<br />
sagareo da saSinao politikuri<br />
mdgomareobisa, saomar garemoSi<br />
miRebul konstituciaSi sami ZiriTadi<br />
valdebuleba hqonda qveyanas<br />
aRebuli sakuTari moqalaqeebis<br />
mimarT:<br />
muxli 113: respublika zrunavs<br />
Tavis moqalaqeTa Rirseuli arsebobisTvis;<br />
muxli 119: umuSevrad darCenil<br />
moqalaqes miecema daxmareba samuSaos<br />
aRmoCeniT, an dazRvevis saxiT;<br />
muxli 125: respublikis<br />
sazrunavi sagania, gansazRvros minimumi<br />
xelfasi da Sromis normaluri<br />
pirobani warmoebaSi.<br />
samwuxarod, axal cvlilebebsa<br />
da arc ZvelSi moqalaqeebis yofaze<br />
dardi arsad Cans. gamonaTqvami,<br />
_ konstitucia yvelasia, _<br />
Telavis Sexvedram kidev erTxel<br />
daamtkica, rom konstituciac vi-<br />
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nis prezidenti emanuel makroni iqneba. nika ruruam am faqts<br />
„evropisa da saqarTvelosTvis mniSvnelovani movlena” uwoda:<br />
„dRes kargi dRea evropisTvis da<br />
kargi dRea evropis nawilad gaxdomis<br />
msurveli qveynebisTvis, anu CvenTvis.<br />
warmoidgineT, axla, le pens<br />
rom gaemarjva, mTeli Cveni erovnuli<br />
mizani evropis nawilad gaxdomisa,<br />
faqtobrivad, gaCanagdeboda, daingreoda.<br />
safrangeTi rom evrokavSiridan<br />
gasul did britaneTs mihyoloda da<br />
safrangeTi rom natodan gasvlis<br />
gzas dasdgomoda, rasac le peni qadagebda,<br />
frustraciasa da uimedobas<br />
miecemoda Cveni xalxi.<br />
le peni swored amas ambobda, rom<br />
Tu prezidneti gaxdeboda, evrokav-<br />
Siridanac da natodanac gaiyvanda<br />
safrangeTs. kidev kargi, es ar moxda:<br />
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es ultramemarjvene putinisti,<br />
populisti qalbatoni, romelic<br />
iracionalur SiSebze TamaSobda<br />
da normaluri moTamaSe airCia, centristi<br />
makroni, romelic imedismomcemi<br />
politikosia.<br />
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penis xedvebs, pirvel rigSi, evropis<br />
erTianobisa da transatlantikuri<br />
siZlieris mimarT da Zalian kargia,<br />
rom aseTi gamarjveba izeima ara marto<br />
safrangeTma da evropam, aramed<br />
saqarTvelomac.<br />
iribad es CvenTvisac kargia:<br />
rogorc iciT, le pens putini pirdapir<br />
exmareboda fuliT, propagandiT,<br />
Tavisi hakeruli operaciebiT,<br />
romelic makronis saarCevno Stabis<br />
winaaRmdeg ganaxorcieles, magram<br />
xalxma am yvelafers demokratiulad<br />
uTxra uari da damarcxda fa-<br />
Sisti, putinisti le peni da gaimarjva<br />
evroatlantistma makronma, rac<br />
Zalian misasalmebelia”.<br />
amis Semdeg, bunebrivia, saubari<br />
konstituciis cvlilebebis proeqtze<br />
dawyebul „saerTo-saxalxo ganxilvaze”<br />
Camovarda. „erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” politsabWos wevrma<br />
da erT-erTma liderma ar damala<br />
Tavisi negatiuri damokidebuleba<br />
ara marto mmarTveli partiis mier<br />
dadgmuli im speqtaklebis mimarT,<br />
romlebic ganxilvis SefuTviT vnaxeT,<br />
aramed im kolegebis mimarTac,<br />
romlebic am ganxilvebSi, zogadad,<br />
monawileoben, Tumca uaryofiT poziciasa<br />
da damokidebulebas gamoxataven:<br />
„namdvilad ar aris es saxalxo<br />
ganxilva, miuxedavad imisa, rom ase<br />
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da tviteris eraa, Zalian Znelia,<br />
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is, rasac akeTeben, veranairad Cai-<br />
Tvleba saxalxo ganxilvad. es aris<br />
dadgmuli speqtakli, romelSic arc<br />
erTi Tavmoyvare adamiani ar miiRebs<br />
monawileobas. cdiloben, ganxilvis<br />
ai, aseTi, vizualuri efeqti Seqmnan,<br />
rac Semdgom esaWiroebaT, raTa es<br />
absoluturad arademokratiuli da<br />
damRupveli cvlilebebi moaxvion<br />
Tavs xalxsa da qveyanas.<br />
es cvlilebebi emsaxureba imas,<br />
rom rac SeiZleba met xans da ufro<br />
Rrmad gaidgas fesvebi oligarqiam<br />
da „qarTulma ocnebam” Cvens qveyanaSi.<br />
maT undaT, sakuTari mmarTvelobis,<br />
xelisuflebaSi darCenis<br />
vadebi usasrulod gaaxangrZlivon.<br />
amas akeTeben ukanonod da Zalian<br />
Tavxedurad.<br />
_ TqvenTvis, zogadad, cvlilebebis<br />
proeqtSi Cadebuli preziden-<br />
tis arapirdapir arCevis wesia mi-<br />
uRebeli, Tu is, rom, konkretulad,<br />
qarTuli realobis gaTvaliswine-<br />
biT, roca gamarjvebuli partia, fa-<br />
qtobrivad, yvelaferis gadamwyveti<br />
SeiZleba aRmoCndes?<br />
_ normaluria, rom nebismier politikur<br />
Zalas sakuTari interesebis<br />
dacva undodes, magram amis gakeTeba<br />
SesaZlebelia mxolod kargi<br />
programebis, sufTa mmarTvelobis,<br />
gasagebi komunikaciisa da msgavsi me-<br />
Todebis SemTxvevaSi, ara konstituciis<br />
saTavisod gadakeTebiT. es<br />
sruliad arnaxuli Tavxedobaa da<br />
ise mimdinareobs, viTom araferia:<br />
kanonierebis iluzias raRacnairad<br />
akeTeben, magram, vimeoreb, rogorc<br />
Rors ver gadaaqcev cxenad, rac ar<br />
unda niSani miakero, ise am farss ver<br />
gadaaqcev realobad.<br />
es cvlilebebi, romelic xalxisTvis<br />
Tavsmoxveulia, mas arTmevs<br />
umniSvnelovanes uflebebs. pirvel<br />
rigSi, es cvlilebebi asustebs xalxs<br />
da Cvens isedac myife demokratias.<br />
erTi ufleba, romelsac namdvilad<br />
ver davTmobT, aris prezidentis<br />
pirdapiri gziT arCeva: xalxi Tavis<br />
prezidents irCevs dRidan damoukideblobis<br />
miRebisa da asec unda<br />
darCes. es fundamenturi uflebaa,<br />
romlis daTmoba mxolod xalxis nebarTviT<br />
SeiZleba, rac xelisuflebas<br />
ar gaaCnia.<br />
amis warTmevis ufleba, vimeoreb,<br />
xalxisTvis aravis aqvs. xalxs arTmeven<br />
am uflebas da aZleven viRac<br />
parlamentarebs, romlebic Semdeg iq<br />
sakuTar msaxurs, monas daayeneben<br />
prezidentad, romelic iqneba ara xalxis,<br />
aramed erTi politikuri Zalis<br />
msaxuri, rac sruliad dauSvebelia.<br />
e. i. yovelTvis gamarjvebuli<br />
daniSnavs prezidents da ganadgurdeba<br />
Zalauflebis dayofis dReisTvis<br />
isedac sustad danergili,<br />
magram aucilebeli principi.<br />
Zalauflebis dayofis konstituciuri<br />
principi emsaxureba imas,<br />
rom qveyanaSi tiraniam, erTmmarTvelobam<br />
ver moikidos fexi.<br />
ar aris aucilebeli, tirania eSafotebTan<br />
da saxrCobelebTan asocirdebodes,<br />
tirania SeiZleba iyos<br />
aseTic _ Waobismagvari da wertilovnad<br />
represiuli, rogoric is dResaa<br />
saqarTveloSi. tirania, amave dros,<br />
aris situacia, sadac moqalaqeebi<br />
arCevnebiT ver cvlian xelisuflebas.<br />
axla, faqtobrivad, arCevnebis<br />
gauqmebasTan gvaqvs saqme.<br />
_ es Tema ufro gavSaloT:<br />
ratomaa araswori da wamgebiani es<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebi? konk-<br />
retulad, ras da rogor emuqreba<br />
igi?<br />
_ mogexsenebaT, prezidenti, zogadad,<br />
damabalansebel funqcias TamaSobs,<br />
yvela sxva funqciasTan er-<br />
Tad. rac ar unda gaubedavad iqceodes<br />
dRevandeli prezidenti, misi<br />
arCeva xalxs uflebas aZlevs, mas<br />
sakuTari, piradi warmomadgeneli<br />
hyavdes mTavrobis dambalanseblad.<br />
maSin, roca mTavroba yovelTvis<br />
Sedgeba xolme parlamentSi gasuli<br />
Zalisgan, amis dambalansebeli saqar-<br />
TveloSi sxva Tanamdebobis piri,<br />
garda prezidentisa, aRaravinaa.<br />
idealur SemTxvevaSi dambalanseblis<br />
roli unda iTamaSos sasamarTlom,<br />
magram dRes sasamarTloc<br />
mTlianad aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebis,<br />
premier-ministrisa da oligarq<br />
ivaniSvilis jibeSia.<br />
amitom erTaderTi Zalauflebis<br />
instrumenti xalxis xelSi aris<br />
xalxisve mier pirdapiri gziT arCeuli<br />
prezidenti, rom es prezidenti<br />
ar daemonos aRmasrulebel xelisuflebas<br />
da saWiro momentebSi qveynisa<br />
da xalxisTvis swori nabijebi<br />
gadadgas.<br />
im qveyanaSi, sadac demokratiis<br />
didi tradicia arsebobs, ekonimika<br />
Zalian Zlieria, sadac xalxi demokratiulad<br />
aris ganwyobili, eleqtorati<br />
ganaTlebulia, qveyanas safrTxeebi<br />
ar emuqreba, SeiZleba simboluri<br />
iyos ceremoniuli prezidentic,<br />
magram Cvens relobaSi, roca<br />
qveynis 20% okupirebulia, roca jer<br />
kidev ar varT saerTaSoriso TavdacviTi<br />
organizaciebis nawili, roca<br />
jer kidev ar varT Tavisufali samyaros<br />
ganuyofeli wevri, roca<br />
saqarTvelo jerac pirvel nabijebs<br />
dgams am, Tavis, 25-wliani damoukideblobis<br />
ganmavlobaSi demokratiuli<br />
institutebis mSneblobis mimarTulebiT,<br />
roca qveyanaSi aris araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba _ am dros Zalauflebis<br />
uzurpireba Zalian realuri<br />
da saSiSia, es pirdapir niSnavs<br />
uamravi kastastrofuli Secdomis<br />
daSvebas mTavrobis mxridan da,<br />
amave dros, mis dausjelobas; anu<br />
bevri damRupveli gadawyvetilebis<br />
miRebas ise, rom amaSi xelisuflebas<br />
veravin xels veRar SeuSlis da Tan<br />
amgvarad damRupveli, cudi, uvici<br />
xelisufleba didi xniT darCeba da<br />
gaagrZelebs im qmedebebs, sanam mere<br />
raRac ZaliT ar gadaagdebs ganrisxebuli<br />
xalxis masa, isev revoluciismagvari<br />
qmedebiT, rac Zalian arasasurvelia.<br />
rodesme sabolood<br />
unda dainergos xelisuflebis cvlis<br />
mSvidobiani xerxi.<br />
dRes realoba aseTia: qveyanas<br />
marTavs aurCeveli oligarqi, yvelaze<br />
mdidari kaci, romelic Cvens<br />
okupant qveyanaSi gamdidrda da aris<br />
„gazpromis” aqcioneri, anu ruseTis<br />
strategiuli iaraRis _ gazis saxelmwifo<br />
korporaciis mowilea.<br />
es mravlismetyveli faqtia _ igi<br />
samudamod iwyobs qveynaSi pirad komforts,<br />
rom yovelgvari angariSvaldebulebisa<br />
da Tanamdebobaze yofnis<br />
gareSe ise moiyvanos da gauSvas<br />
mTavrobebi, rogorc mas moexasiaTeba.<br />
cxadia, es, mxolod mis pirad interesebSi<br />
Sedis, magram ar Sedis<br />
xalxisa da qveynis ganviTarebis interesebSi,<br />
imitom rom sadac ar aris<br />
konkurencia, sadac ar aris opozicia,<br />
iq, rogorc wesi, miiReba bevri<br />
korumpirebuli, Clungi, uvici, tlu,<br />
antisaxelmwifoebrivi da gamyidveluri<br />
gadawyvetileba _ es ase iyo<br />
yvelagan istoriulad da ase iqneba<br />
CvenTanac.<br />
Zalauflebis Stoebad dayofis,<br />
am Stoebis mier erTmaneTis dabalansebisa<br />
da urTierTSekavebis principebi<br />
wmidaTawmida ram aris demokratiaSi.<br />
amis gareSe demokratia qreba<br />
da rCeba an oligarqia, an _ tirania.<br />
amis Sedegad qveyana saerTod kargavs<br />
damoukideblobas da xdeba<br />
ufro Zlieri mezoblis vasali.<br />
es e. w. konstituciuri cvlilebebi<br />
aranairad ar aris politikuri<br />
da partiuli sakiTxi _ zepartiuli<br />
sakiTxia. metsac getyviT: es „ocnebisTvisac”<br />
ki cudia, oRond isini, ZalauflebiT<br />
mTvralebi, amas jer<br />
TviTonac ver xvdebian...<br />
elementarulia, rom zedmeti Zalaufleba<br />
damRupvel Secdomebs<br />
daaSvebinebs maT da amis gasacnobiereblad<br />
„meocnebeebs” arc Sesabamisi<br />
kompetencia aqvT, arc ganaTleba<br />
da arc _ istoriis codna. isini,<br />
rogorc xarbi bavSvebi, mTlianad<br />
cdiloben im tortis SeWmas, romelic<br />
mxolod maT ar ekuTvniT.<br />
_ ori sityva prezidentzec unda<br />
vTqvaT: misi pozicia viciT, magram<br />
isic viciT, rom is daTanxmda saer-<br />
To-saxalxo ganxilvis ideas. ra-<br />
tom? sxva gamosavali ar hqonda, Tu<br />
es raRac taqtikur manevrad Segvi-<br />
Zlia miviCnioT?<br />
_ Cemi azriT, prezidenti taqtikur<br />
TamaSs TamaSobs, radganac mas<br />
politikuri gundi ar gaaCnia, garda<br />
Tavis administraciaSi myofi orisami<br />
kacisa.<br />
rogorc Cans, mas ar unda Ria<br />
dapirispirebaze wasvla da cdilobs,<br />
neli, monotonuri winaaRmdegobis<br />
gawevas. magram mas rom es cvlilebebi<br />
ar moswons, faqtia. man araerT<br />
Sexvedraze ganacxada, maT Soris,<br />
politikur partiebTanac, romelsac<br />
mec veswrebodi, rom is bolomde<br />
ibrZolebs, raTa ar iyos xalxis mier<br />
arCeuli ukanaskneli prezidenti<br />
saqarTveloSi da amis saSiSroeba<br />
dRes namdvilad dgas.<br />
Tu prezidentma xalxis ufleba<br />
daTmo, rom saqarTvelos moqalaqe-<br />
nika rurua:<br />
`qarTul<br />
ocnebaSi~ xarbi<br />
bavSvebiviT<br />
cdiloben,<br />
mTlianad<br />
SeWamon torti,<br />
romelic maT<br />
ar ekuTvniT~<br />
ebma qveynis prezidenti airCion, es<br />
iqneba samarcxvino mis politikur<br />
karieraSic da absoluturad daasamarebs<br />
mas, rogorc politikoss _<br />
ara mgonia, rom aseTi ram prezident<br />
margvelaSvils undodes.<br />
zogadad, rac Seexeba dRevandeli<br />
konstituciiT gaTvaliswinebul<br />
prezidentis ufleba-movaleobebs,<br />
isini Zalian mniSvnelovani da Zlieri<br />
uflebebia imisTvis, rom man imuSaos<br />
Tavkombala aRmasrulebeli<br />
xelisuflebis, premierisa da mTavrobis<br />
dabalansebisTvis: prezidenti<br />
aris umaRlesi mTavarsardali, is<br />
aris warmomadgeneli sagareo politikur<br />
sakiTxebSi, mas aqvs Sewyalebis<br />
ufleba, hyavs uSiSroebis sabWo,<br />
romlis mowvevis uflebac aqvs, Seu-<br />
Zlia daiTxovos parlamenti krizisis<br />
SemTxvevaSi, SeuZlia daniSnos uzenaesi<br />
sasamarTlos mosamarTleebi...<br />
anu is aRWurvilia bevri konstituciuri<br />
funqciiT da mas pirdapir<br />
irCevs xalxi. amitom mas didi legitimuroba<br />
aqvs da swored amitom arafriT<br />
ar SeiZleba prezidentis institutis<br />
ganadgureba, romelic<br />
wvaleb-wvalebiT da, rogorRac,<br />
Camoyalibda saqarTveloSi.<br />
_ enm-s samomavlo strategia<br />
rogoria am „ganxilvis” pirobebSi,<br />
ras apirebT? xom ar Sesula cvlileba<br />
Tavidanve gacxadebul gegma-<br />
Si?<br />
_ Cven vicodiT, rom es iyo farsi<br />
da Tavidanve vTqviT. sakonstitucio<br />
komisiis muSaobis pirvelive dRidan<br />
da misi muSaobis stilidan Canda,<br />
rom es iyo farsi, rom xelisufleba<br />
Tavisi jinianobis gagrZelebas<br />
iseTive ZaladobiT, iseTive xelebis<br />
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grexiT apirebda, rogorc amas komisiaSi<br />
akeTebda.<br />
gaxsovT, albaT, rom sakonstitucio<br />
komisia yvela politikurma partiam<br />
datova da iq „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
martodmarto darCa ramdenime<br />
eqspertis amara; rodesac am gzaze<br />
mmarTvelma partiam naxevari ukve<br />
gaiara xelebis amgvarad grexiT, cxadi<br />
iyo, rom e. w. saxalxo ganxilva<br />
farsi, speqtakli iqneboda, raSic<br />
monawileoba ar unda migveRo. Cven<br />
vTqviT, rom xalxs davelaparakebiT,<br />
saqmis viTarebas da wamoWril safrTxeebs<br />
pirdapiri gziT avuxsniT,<br />
yvelanairi speqtaklis gareSe da mas-<br />
Si monawileobis gverdis avliT. asec<br />
vakeTebT: ukve ramdenime Sexvedra<br />
gaimarTa da es mTeli qveynis masStabiT<br />
gagrZeldeba. dRes ori RonisZieba<br />
gvqonda imereTSi. kaxeTSic viyaviT<br />
da xalxTan Sexvedrebisas maT<br />
vuxsniT, rom Tu isini prezidentis<br />
arCevis uflebas daTmoben, yvela is<br />
problema, romelic Zalian awuxebT,<br />
gaaTmagdeba...<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, sainteresoa, rom<br />
Tamar CugoSvilma, magaliTad, ab-<br />
surdi im cvlilebas ki ar uwoda,<br />
romelsac apireben, aramed ukve ar-<br />
sebul Canawers. „erTxel rom es<br />
absurdi Caiwera, ar niSnavs, rom<br />
samudamod unda darCes”, _ es misi<br />
sityvebia... arsebobs raime formiT<br />
logika, romelic pirdapiri wesiT<br />
prezidentis arCevas absurdad<br />
moiazrebs?<br />
_ aranairi logika amaSi ar arsebobs,<br />
cxadia. maTi gancxadebebi ganpirobebulia<br />
mxolod xelisuflebis<br />
egoisturi surviliT. absurdia<br />
swored is gancxadebebi, rasac qalbatoni<br />
CugoSvili akeTebs. dasanania,<br />
rom es axalgazrda marionetad<br />
iqca ivaniSvilis xelSi. mas arc kompetencia<br />
aRmoaCnda da, rac mTavaria,<br />
arc politikuri wesiereba, rom<br />
qveynis interesebs dauWiros mxari<br />
maSin, roca misi politikuri gundi<br />
am interesebis winaaRmdeg ilaSqrebs.<br />
CugoSvili Tavisi politikuri gundisa<br />
da oligarqis mier axirebuli<br />
dRis wesrigis tyveobaSi darCa da<br />
ivaniSvilis xelSi Tojina gaxda,<br />
romelic am yvelafris Semsrulebelia.<br />
es Zalian dasanania, radgan man<br />
politikuri kariera gaifuWa da samarcxvino<br />
speqtaklSi monawileobs.<br />
CugoSvili gadaiqca „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
Cveulebriv propagandistad,<br />
amitom misi sandooba nulis tolia.<br />
_ bolos isic daamata, rom am<br />
cvlilebas veneciis komisiac eT-<br />
anxmebao...<br />
_ ar mgonia, rom veneciis komisiam<br />
es absurduli modeli konteqstis<br />
gauTvaliswineblad moiwonos.<br />
konteqsti ki is aris, rom saqarTvelos<br />
marTavs araformaluri mmarTveli,<br />
romelic aravis aurCevia da<br />
aranari demokratiuli angariSvaldebulebiT<br />
ar aris SezRuduli.<br />
zustad vici, razec vlaparakob<br />
_ CugoSvilisa da magvarTa zedapiruli<br />
fsevdokompetencia rom nebismieri<br />
mcodne adamianis veraviTar<br />
darwmunebas ver SeZlebs, es aris orjer<br />
ori...<br />
furcelze Tu raRac kargad gamoiyureba,<br />
es ar niSnavs, rom is cxovrebaSic<br />
kargad imuSavebs. ase rom,<br />
konteqsti umTavresia am, faqtobrivad,<br />
axali konstituciis obieqturi<br />
Sefasebisas. dRes, sadac araformaluri<br />
mmarTvelobaa, iq ar SeiZleba<br />
yvelaferi erTi Zalis xelSi iyos.<br />
amitom iq prezidenti pirdapir unda<br />
irCeodes, rom xalxma, raRacnairad,<br />
damabalansebeli faqtori Seqmnas xelisuflebaSi.<br />
sxva aseTi funqcia<br />
dRes aravis aqvs.<br />
araformaluri mmarTveli imdenad<br />
mdidaria da imdenad yovlismomcvelia<br />
dRes, rom ar SeiZleba, amis<br />
gauTvaliswineblad raRac sistemaze<br />
vTqvaT, rom radgan furcelze uvneblad<br />
gamoiyureba, is cxovrebaSic<br />
demokratiulad da efeqtianad imuSavebs.<br />
_ premieri aSS-Si gaemgzavra.<br />
Tqven iciT amgvari Sexvedrebis<br />
kuluarebi da ramdenad arsebobs<br />
imis Sansi, am cvlilebebis absurdu-<br />
lobazec mianiSnon diplomatiurad<br />
baton kvirikaSvils?<br />
_ aucileblad. am Temaze mas iq<br />
mkafiod daelaparakebian da aSS-Si<br />
etyvian, rom es ideebi, ris gaTrevasac<br />
isini cdiloben, aris mavne, damazianebeli<br />
da cudi. amerikaSi Zalian<br />
afaseben Zalauflebis danawilebisa<br />
da demokratiuli mmarTvelobis yvela<br />
instruments, romelic Zlivs saxezea<br />
saqarTveloSi. sakmaod moulodnelia,<br />
magram arsebuli konstituciuri<br />
modeli Zalauflebis uzurpaciisgan<br />
dazRvevisTvis mainc<br />
gamodgeba. dRevandeli modeli amaze<br />
imuSavebs, Tu mas SevinarCunebT da<br />
es ara marto Cven viciT, es evropasa<br />
da aSS-Sic ician.<br />
_ ise, trampis mier saqarTvelos<br />
mTlianobisa da deokupaciis mxar-<br />
damWeri kanonis xelmoweris Semdeg<br />
socialur qselebSi imasac xumr-<br />
obdnen, mgoni, deokupaciiT aSS uf-<br />
roa dainteresebuli, vidre saqar-<br />
Tvelos amJamindeli xelisufle-<br />
bao...<br />
_ samwuxarod, asea, imitom, rom<br />
aSS globaluri moTamaSea da xvdeba,<br />
rom es precedentebi, romelic<br />
Zalian saSiSia, zogadad, msofliosTvis,<br />
mavnea yvelasTvis _ ara mxolod<br />
saqarTvelosTvis, aramed evropis<br />
qveynebisTvisac, aSS-sTvisac da<br />
mTeli Tavisufali samyarosTvisac.<br />
separatizms, am maxinj iaraRs,<br />
romelsac sxva qveyana aqezebs, Tu<br />
civilizebuli msoflio SeumCnevlad<br />
datovebs, mas gamoiyeneben<br />
yvelgan.<br />
amitomac aris mwvave axali administraciis<br />
reagireba. es sworia,<br />
pragmatuli da, rac mTavaria, samarTlebrivi<br />
demokratiis sicocxlisunarianobis<br />
SenarCunebis TvalsazrisiT,<br />
imitom rom eTnikuri wmendis<br />
Sedegad gamocarielebuli teritoria<br />
ar SeiZleba iyos damoukidebeli<br />
saxelmwifo. separatistebma<br />
rusuli samxedro da politikuri<br />
manqanis daxmarebiT eTnikuri wmenda<br />
Caatares afxazeTSic da samaCabloSic<br />
da axla moundaT, rom mTelma<br />
msofliom maT damoukidebeli<br />
qveynis statusi misces... ver miar-<br />
Tves da es arc arasodes moxdeba _<br />
iq Cven davbrundebiT da erTad<br />
viqnebiT Tanasworuflebiani moqalaqeebi<br />
demokratiuli, erTiani,<br />
warmatebuli qveynisa...<br />
_ parlamentis wevrebi „evropu-<br />
li saqarTvelodan”, Tqveni yofili<br />
TanamebrZolebi, aseve emijnebian am<br />
cvlilebebs, kritikul gancxadebebsac<br />
akeTeben, magram, Tqvengan gansxvavebiT,<br />
isini ganxilvaSi im prin-<br />
cipiT monawileoben, rom „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” marto ar unda datovon da<br />
tribuna gamoiyenon. Tqveni arCeu-<br />
li taqtika cxadyofs, rom amas ar<br />
eTanxmebiT. rogor afasebT maT am<br />
gadawyvetilebas?<br />
_ cxadia, iq „evropuli saqarTvelos”<br />
jdoma „ocnebisTvis” komfortulia,<br />
radgan is am maxinji procesis<br />
„gakeTilSobilebis” efeqts qmnis.<br />
ar meCveneba maTi monawileoba gamarTlebulad.<br />
isini amiT Tavs ircxvenen,<br />
magram es maTi saqmea: es aris<br />
srulwlovani xalxis gaerTianeba da<br />
sakuTar reputaciaze Tavad unda<br />
ifiqron. me maT rCevebs ver mivcem,<br />
Tu ra aris kargi da ra _ cudi, Tvi-<br />
Ton idardon. Cemi azriT ki isini<br />
Segnebulad „akeTilSobileben” im<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
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farss, romelSic monawileoben „ocnebasTan”<br />
erTad. realurad, maTi iq<br />
laparaki arafers Secvlis. maT dRes,<br />
Cemi azriT, ufro Ria da mkveTri<br />
oponireba unda gauwion mmarTvel<br />
partias, vidre scenaze erTi-ori<br />
wamoknavlebaa.<br />
cxadia, es aris speqtakli, rac<br />
kargad gamoCnda ambrolaurSi, sadac<br />
isic ki ar icodnen, irakli RaribaSvilia<br />
scenaze, Tu vinme sxva.<br />
es iyo moyvanili xalxi, winaswari<br />
kiTxvebiT da Zalian cudi sanaxavi<br />
gaxldaT: namdvil sabWoTa „amxanagur”<br />
sasamarTlos hgavda yvela Sexvedra.<br />
iq miyvanilebi maTive partaqtivi<br />
da gamgeobis TanamSromlebi<br />
arian. es „ocnebaze” damokidebuli<br />
mikerZoebuli xalxia. realuri miukerZoebeli<br />
moqalaqeebi iq an ar arian,<br />
an maT xmas, ubralod, axSoben.<br />
_ xom ar ggoniaT, rom enm-c unda<br />
Cavides ganxilvis adgilebSi da, Tundac,<br />
darbazSi Seusvlelad, iq mis-<br />
ul xalxs daelaparakos, amiT ki<br />
diskomforti Seuqmnas mmarTvel<br />
partias? aseTi mosazrebebic gaCn-<br />
da mxardamWerebSi...<br />
_ realurad, diskoforts Seqmnis<br />
is, rom xalxma es ufleba ar daTmos,<br />
Torem adgilze maT speqtalSi<br />
monawileoba aranair diskomforts<br />
ar Seqmnis. piriqiT, maT wisqvilze<br />
daasxams wyals da ityvian, rom ai,<br />
destruqciuli elementebi rogor<br />
iqcevian...<br />
diskomforti „ocnebas” masobrivi<br />
protestiT Seeqmneba, rac aucileblad<br />
moxdeba, Tu ase gaagrZeleben<br />
Zaladobas konstituciaze da xalxis<br />
uflebebze.<br />
ase rom, maT es komunisturi stilis<br />
Sexvedrebi RmerTma SeargoT,<br />
Cven ki pirdapir xalxTan vilaparakebT:<br />
yvelas avuxsniT, rom is ufleba,<br />
rac maT bolo 25 welia aqvT,<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis” axirebis gamo, SesaZloa,<br />
waarTvan da es ar aris is,<br />
rasac unda Seelion. es aris ufleba,<br />
romelic xalxma aravis ar unda<br />
dauTmos.<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, 9 politikuri<br />
partiis gancxadebazec unda gkiTx-<br />
oT: isini axla acxadeben, rom 2016<br />
wlis saparlamento arCevnebi tota-<br />
lurad gayalbda, rom 137 000-ze<br />
meti xma gabaTilda. sadavo ubnebis<br />
gaxsnas da xmebis xelaxla gadaTv-<br />
las iTxoven... amaze ras ityviT?<br />
_ es yuradRebis gadatanaa dRevandeli<br />
sakiTxidan. Tu fiqroben,<br />
rom xelisuflebas cvlilebebi ar<br />
unda gaataninon, amaze unda ilaparakon,<br />
ra dros 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebia?! es arCevnebi Cavlili<br />
wyalia da amis revizias aravin daiwyebs.<br />
araseriozulia amaze drois dakargva.<br />
leiboristebze ver vityodi,<br />
danarCeni ki, SesaZloa, xelisuflebisgan<br />
gakontrolebuli Zalebi arian.<br />
Tumca, SesaZloa, yvelac ase iyos,<br />
„nacionaluri moZraobis” garda da<br />
im opoziciuri Zalebis garda, vinc<br />
gaerTianebulia moZraobaSi „daicavi<br />
konstitucia”.<br />
_ xelisuflebis simyifeze ras<br />
ityviT? jandacvis ministris moa-<br />
dgile gadadga, gazafxulze cvli-<br />
lebebs bevri aanonsebs. Tqveni azr-<br />
iT, saxelisuflebo ryevebi iqneba?<br />
_ erTaderTi kaci, visac realurad<br />
SeuZlia gadaayenos vinme, es<br />
aris ivaniSvili. vin unda gadaayenos<br />
premieri, Tu ara ivaniSvilma? vinmes<br />
gadaayenebs Tu sxvas moiyvans, amiT<br />
saqmis arsi ar Seicvleba. aranairi<br />
mniSvneloba ar eqneba cvlilebebs,<br />
vidre araformaluri mmarTveloba<br />
ar dasruldeba da „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
sxva politikuri ZaliT ar Canacvldeba,<br />
romelzedac ivaniSlvils<br />
gavlena ar eqneba.<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi iqmneba iluzia,<br />
rom raRac icvleba, magram, sinamdvileSi,<br />
araferi Seicvleba. Seicvlebian<br />
personebi, magram marionetebis<br />
mmarTveli igive iqneba da problemebic<br />
mxolod damZimdeba...<br />
_ ukve mesame welia, „Ramis mgle-<br />
bi” berlinisken miiweven da verc<br />
erTxel miaRwies mizans. wels ise<br />
Canda, rom xelisuflebam, Sss-m iaqtiura,<br />
gancxadebebi gakeTda, Tvi-<br />
Ton rusma baikerebma aRniSnes, rom<br />
zemo larsidan ukan gaabrunes da<br />
qveyanaSi Sesvlis nebarTva ar misc-<br />
es. riT iyo es gamowveuli? aseTi<br />
simkveTre wina wlebSi ar gvaxsovs<br />
da cota xnis winaT „Ramis mglebma”,<br />
saerTodac, Cvens cxvirwin moilo-<br />
`dRes realoba aseTia: qveyanas marTavs<br />
aurCeveli oligarqi, yvelaze mdidari kaci,<br />
romelic Cvens okupant qveyanaSi gamdidrda<br />
da aris `gazpromis~ aqcioneri, anu ruseTis<br />
strategiuli iaraRis - gazis saxelmwifo<br />
korporaciis mowilea~<br />
ces sveticxoveli...<br />
_ es kargi gadawyvetileba iyo.<br />
Sss-s gancxadeba erTaderTi swori<br />
ram iyo, magram, rogorc Cans, viRacebi<br />
adre SemouSves, an SemoeparaT.<br />
gancxadeba, rom ar SemouSveben, kargi<br />
gancxadebaa, magram am gancxadebas<br />
saqme unda mohyves (saubari manamde<br />
Caiwera, sanam cnobili gaxdeboda,<br />
rom saqarTveloSi moskovis yofili<br />
meri, iuri luJkovi, daubrkoleblad<br />
Semovida, Sss-m ki ganacxada,<br />
rom mas sabuTebi wesrigSi hqonda,<br />
_ red.), amas aRsruleba sWirdeba.<br />
amitom es unda aRasrulon da<br />
pirdapir unda gaabrunon provokatorebi<br />
da qarTveli xalxis Seuracxmyofelebi.<br />
isini ar arian mxolod<br />
Seuracxmyofelebi da provokatorebi<br />
_ es fsiqologiuri zewola<br />
erze; amiT Cven daSinebis aqcias<br />
gvitareben rusi okupantebi,<br />
rom am meTodebiT Segvaguon im dabeCavebul<br />
mdgomareobas, romelSic<br />
dRes saqarTveloa.<br />
darwmunebuli var, xelisufleba-<br />
Sic xvdebian xalxis ganwyobas. mTavari<br />
am sakiTxSi swored is aris, rom<br />
xalxis protesti sakmaod mkafio iyo<br />
da aman xelisuflebis es gadawyvetilebac<br />
ganapiroba. swored xalxis<br />
protestma da aRSfoTebam ubiZga Ss<br />
saministros, radgan sxva SemTxveva-<br />
Si aucileblad moxdeboda incidentebi<br />
da amaze pasuxismgebeli, cxadia,<br />
maTi SemomSvebi xelisufleba iqneboda.<br />
_ mixeil saakaSvilzec unda gki-<br />
TxoT: bolo dros, ukrainaSi misi<br />
partiis popularobis zrdis xar-<br />
jze tendencia SeimCneva, rom misi<br />
gundis wevrebs ukrainis moqalaqe-<br />
obas arTmeven da amas akeTebs ukra-<br />
inis prezidenti. erT-erTma aseTma<br />
pirma, saakaSvilis gundis wevrma,<br />
saSa borovikma, ganacxada, rom Sem-<br />
degi, SesaZloa, swored saakaSvili<br />
iyos, romelic ukrainis moqalaqeobis<br />
CamorTmevis Semdeg gaxdeba ap-<br />
atridi, anu piri moqalaqeobis<br />
gareSe. ramdenad arsebobs amis sa-<br />
SiSroeba?<br />
_ ver getyviT, magram ar mgonia,<br />
rom poroSenko amaze wavides, imitom<br />
rom ukrainaSi amas seriozuli<br />
mRelvareba mohyveba, _ iq, im korumpirebul<br />
garemoSi, saakaSvili bevrisTvis<br />
korufciasTan brZolis er-<br />
TaderTi simboloa, saSualebaa, radganac<br />
ukrainaSi, rogorc viciT, politikuri<br />
klasi Zalian korumpirebulia<br />
da saakaSvili xalxs arakorumpirebulobis<br />
gamo eimedeba. amitom<br />
aseTi briyvuli nabiji Tu gadaidga,<br />
es, mxolod da mxolod, saakaSvilis<br />
popularobas gazrdis da<br />
Zalian Zviri politikuri fasis gadaxda<br />
mouwevs TviTon ukrainis mTavrobasa<br />
da prezidents. vfiqrob, es<br />
ufro SantaJisa da daSinebis mcdelobas<br />
hgavs, vidre realobas.<br />
_ ramdenad xSirad gaqvT polit-<br />
sabWos wevrebs mixeil saakaSvilTan<br />
kontaqti? ras fiqrobs igi saqarTveloSi<br />
mimdinare politikur pro-<br />
cesebze?<br />
_ marTali giTxraT, aqaur ambeb-<br />
Si, realurad, Cveni qveynis wina prezidenti<br />
ar ereva _ arc partiul saqmeebSi<br />
da arc yoveldRiur saqmeeb-<br />
Si, radgan Tavisi ukrainuli saqmeebiT<br />
aris dakavebuli; informirebulobas<br />
rac Seexeba, rogorc Cans, is<br />
qarTul televizias uyurebs, presas<br />
da socmedias ecnoba, magram yoveld-<br />
RiurobaSi Cabmuli namdvilad ar<br />
aris.<br />
_ Tqven saakaSvilis sapreziden-<br />
to biblioTekaSi xSirad xvdebiT<br />
axalgazrdebs, ukiTxavT maT leq-<br />
ciebs. ra SegiZliaT TqvaT, rogori<br />
Taoba modis? ipovis kremli maTSi<br />
dasayrdens?<br />
_ SemiZlia vTqva, rom kremli ver<br />
ipovis axalgazrdebSi dasayrdens,<br />
imitom rom Cvens xalxs Tavisufleba<br />
Zvirad uRirs da jer kidev Seu-<br />
Zlia mtrisa da moyvris garCeva. yvela<br />
mizezi maqvs viwinaswarmetyvelo<br />
saqarTvelos erTiani da demokratiuli<br />
momavali, magram es monacemebia,<br />
romelsac realizeba unda; amas bevri<br />
Sroma da Tavdadeba sWirdeba,<br />
radgan aseTi momavali garantirebulad<br />
ar modis. amas fundamentur<br />
erovnul interesebze saerTo Tanxmoba<br />
sWirdeba. am Tanxmobas ki dacva<br />
da gafrTxileba unda, imitom, rom<br />
swored am erovnul Tanxmobas erCis<br />
ruseTis propaganda, amas erCian ruseTis<br />
gavlenis agentebi saqarTveloSi,<br />
romelic arc ise cotani arian<br />
politikur klassa Tu mediasivrceSi...<br />
amitom am propagandistul manqanas<br />
aqtiuri winaaRmdegoba sWirdeba<br />
qveynis patriotebis mxridan;<br />
organizebuli winaaRmdegoba unda<br />
gavuwioT ruseTs, romelic cdilobs,<br />
Tavgza aubnios qarTvel moqalaqeTa<br />
did nawils imisTvis, rom<br />
xeli aaRebinos Tavisufal arCevanze.<br />
ra Tqma unda, es iseTi brZolaa,<br />
romelic unda movigoT. aq wagebis<br />
ufleba ar gvaqvs, Tanac, es sakmaod<br />
grZelvadiani da damRleli brZolaa,<br />
magram Cven im mxares varT, sadac<br />
simarTlea da Cvens fundamentur<br />
interesebs vicavT. es brZola unda<br />
movigoT, radgan amas alternativa<br />
ar aqvs, rom saqarTvelo iyos Tavisufali<br />
samyaros nawili. magram vimeoreb:<br />
amas unda erTianoba, gaazrebuli<br />
gambedaoba da yoveldRiuri<br />
Sroma. xalxma nel-nela ufro kargad<br />
iswavla TviTorganizeba, magram<br />
es ar niSnavs, rom TviTkmayofilebam<br />
mogvicvas. amis ufleba Tavs ar<br />
unda mivceT, radgan samSvidobomde<br />
jer ar mivsulvarT, Tumca igi arc<br />
ise Soria, rogorc es SeiZleba, vinme<br />
sulmokles egonos...<br />
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tendencia ki imisken midis,<br />
rom mosamarTleebis umetesoba<br />
da ministris moadgileebic,<br />
rogorc Tavad ministrebis garkveuli<br />
nawili, umetesad, gareubnebs<br />
irCeven, adgils, sadac axalaSenebul<br />
korpusebSi qalaqis<br />
xmaurisgan moridebulad Sei-<br />
Zleba komfortulad cxovreba.<br />
es ukanaskneli lirikuli gadaxvevaa<br />
da axla xsenebuli mosamarTlis<br />
komfortis zonaze, manamde<br />
ki mis biografiasa da qonebriv<br />
deklaraciaze unda visaubroT,<br />
romlis mixedviTac aRmovaCine,<br />
rom dedaCemze erTi wliT<br />
ufrosi mosamarTle ukve 10-gverdian<br />
deklaracias flobs. vaskvni,<br />
e. i., Tavis droze, kargad<br />
umuSavia.<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />
vebgverdze miTiTebul monacemebSi<br />
vkiTxulobT, rom xa-<br />
Tuna xarCilava daibada 1977<br />
wlis 18 marts q. soxumSi.<br />
1997 wels daamTavra q. Tbilisis<br />
Jurnalistikis institutis<br />
Jurnalistikis fakulteti; 2002<br />
wels daamTavra iv. javaxiSvilis<br />
saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo<br />
universitetis soxumis filia-<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
xaTuna xarCilavas<br />
Cveni komfortis zonis mom-<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
devno stumari Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos morigi mosamarTlea,<br />
romelsac muxianSi, kvlav „axmetelis” metrodan So-<br />
riaxlos mdebare axalaSenebuli korpusis binaSi vewvieT.<br />
20<br />
lis istoria-iuridiuli fakulteti,<br />
samarTlamcodneobis specialobiT;<br />
1999-2003 wlebSi mu-<br />
Saobda afxazeTis konfliqtis<br />
politikuri mowesrigebis sainformacio<br />
uzrunvelyofis centrSi<br />
mTavari saxelmwifo mrCevlis<br />
Tanamdebobaze; 2002 wels<br />
Caabara mosamarTlis TanaSemweobis<br />
pretendentTa sakvalifikacio<br />
gamocda; 2003 wels Caabara<br />
prokuraturis muSakTa sakvalifikacio<br />
gamocda; 2004 wels Caabara<br />
advokatTa sakvalifikacio<br />
gamocda sisxlis samarTlis specializaciiT;<br />
2006 wels Caabara<br />
mosamarTleobis sakvalifikacio<br />
gamocda sisxlis samarTlis specializaciiT;<br />
2003-2006 wlebSi<br />
muSaobda afxazeTis a/r umaRlesi<br />
saapelacio sasamarTlos sxdomis<br />
mdivnis Tanamdebobaze;<br />
2006 wels muSaobda Tbilisis saapelacio<br />
sasamarTlos sxdomis<br />
mdivnis Tanamdebobaze; 2006-2007<br />
wlebSi muSaobda Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos sxdomis mdivnis<br />
Tanamdebobaze; 2007-2011<br />
wlebSi muSaobda Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos mosamarTlis<br />
TanaSemwis Tanamdebobaze; 2011<br />
wlis maisidan 2012 wlis aprilamde<br />
iyo iusticiis umaRlesi<br />
skolis msmeneli; 2012 wlis 11<br />
ivnisidan aris Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />
sasamarTlos sisxlis samarTlis<br />
saqmeTa kolegiis mosamar-<br />
Tle.<br />
hyavs meuRle.<br />
soxumSi dabadebuli xaTuna<br />
xarCilavas wina wlis 19 ivliss<br />
Sevsebuli qonebrivi deklarciidan<br />
irkveva, rom mis saxelze<br />
uZravi qoneba ar aris registrirebuli<br />
da erTaderTi uZravi<br />
qoneba misi meuRlis, Savleg samuSias<br />
saxelze fiqsirdeba, romelic<br />
TbilisSi, gobroniZis<br />
#25 d -Si mdebareobs, bina #66-<br />
ia da misi farTobi 60.00 kv.m.-s<br />
Seadgens. es swored is adgilia,<br />
romelsac mogvianebiT vewvie.<br />
amaze qvemoT mogiyvebiT.<br />
moZrav qonebas rac Seexeba,<br />
aqac meuRle, Savleg samuSia flobs<br />
avtomobil Nissan Skyline-s.<br />
deklaraciiT irkveva, rom<br />
arc erTi maTgani ar flobs fasian<br />
qaRaldebs (amis floba Cvens<br />
realobaSi cota rTuli saqmec<br />
kia, qarTuli fasiani qaRaldebis<br />
bazris gadamkide), rac gasakviric<br />
ar yofila.<br />
rac Seexeba grafas: „saqarTvelos<br />
an sxva qveynis sabanko an/da<br />
sxva sakredito dawesebulebebSi<br />
arsebuli angariSi an/da Senatani,<br />
romlis gankargvis ufleba<br />
gaqvT Tqven, Tqveni ojaxis<br />
wevrs”, _ vxedavT, rom mosamar-<br />
Tle „respublika bankSi” sakredito<br />
da saxelfaso angariSs an<br />
Senatans flobs, pirvel SemTxvevaSi<br />
angariSze an/da Senatanze<br />
arsebuli naSTi Seadgens (krediti<br />
an debeti) 3000.00 lars<br />
(krediti(+), meore SemTxvevaSi ki<br />
110.00 lars (krediti(+).<br />
aseve, carieli gvxvdeba grafa,<br />
sadac mis an misi ojaxis wevris<br />
sakuTrebaSi arsebul naRdi<br />
fulis masazea monacemi misaTi-<br />
Tebeli, romlis odenobac 4000<br />
lars aRemateba.<br />
carielia grafa, sadac misi, an<br />
ojaxis wevrebis samewarmeo saqmianobaSi<br />
monawileoba unda eweros.<br />
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi<br />
deklaraciis Sevsebamde<br />
erTi wliT adre, anu 2015 wels<br />
samsaxuridan miRebulma Tanxam<br />
74450.00 lari Seadgina.<br />
aseve, deklaraciidan varkvevT,<br />
rom Cveni interesis mTavar<br />
obieqts 2015 wlis 3 noembers<br />
„banki respublikidan” 24000.00<br />
laris odenobis sesxi auRia, romelsac<br />
2019 wlis 3 noembers ewureba<br />
vada da romelzedac procentis<br />
saxiT 690.00 lari gadauxdia.<br />
rac Seexeba grafebs:<br />
„Tqveni, Tqveni ojaxis wevris<br />
mier wina wlis pirveli ianvridan<br />
31 dekembris CaTvliT miRebuli<br />
saCuqari, romlis Rirebuleba<br />
aRemateba 500 lars” da<br />
„wina wlis pirveli ianvridan 31<br />
dekembris CaTvliT Tqveni an Tqveni<br />
ojaxis wevris nebismieri Semosavali<br />
an/da gasavali, romlis<br />
odenoba (Rirebuleba) TiToeul<br />
SemTxvevaSi aRemateba 1500 lars<br />
da ar aris miTiTebuli am deklaraciis<br />
sxva furclebze”, _<br />
carielia.<br />
e. i. zemoT xsenebuli „kargad<br />
umuSavia” arcTu swori daskvna<br />
iyo, erTi SexedviT rom Canda.<br />
11-gverdian deklaraciaSi pirveli<br />
gverdi mis mokle biografiul<br />
monacemebs da ojaxis wevrebs<br />
eTmoba, danarCeni aTidan ki xuTi<br />
gverdi carielia.<br />
biografiisa da deklaraciis<br />
gacnobis Semdeg ukve misi sacxovreblisken<br />
gavemarTe, romelic,<br />
rogorc ukve aRvniSne, gobroniZis<br />
quCaze mdebareobs.<br />
wina statiebidan gaxsovT da<br />
aseTi SemTxveva sakmaod bevri<br />
yofila, mosamarTlis komfortis<br />
zonac muxianSi, metrosadgur<br />
„axmetelis Teatris” axlos<br />
mdebareobs.<br />
SabaTs SuadRis 13:00 saaTis-<br />
Tvis Cemi saorientacio sistemiT,<br />
xmis CamweriTa da aparatiT<br />
„SeiaraRebuli” ukve „axmetelis<br />
Teatris” metrosadguridan amovedi<br />
da muxianisken mimaval<br />
gzaze, gobroniZis quCas davadeqi.<br />
miuxedavad Google Map-is<br />
qonisa, Cems adgilmdebareobasa<br />
da daniSnulebis punqtamde man-<br />
Zili realurad Sevafase da iqve<br />
mdgom taqsis mZRols vTxove<br />
adgilze miyvana, romelic iseTi<br />
mouridebeli da Semtevi aRmoCnda,<br />
rom namdvilad mizandasaxuli<br />
iqneboda! amas ki imitom vambob,<br />
rom am konkretuli misamar-<br />
Tis Ziebisas Cems gzamkvlevs ar<br />
daujera da mainc im gziT wavida,<br />
rogorc TviTon icoda, mTavari<br />
iyo, daniSnulebis adgilamde<br />
miveyvane da ukve danarCenze<br />
aRar vdardobdi.<br />
ramdenime kerZo saxlsac SemovuareT,<br />
bevri ram vikiTxeT,<br />
magram fizikurad SeuZlebeli<br />
iyo, rom col-qmars 60 kv.m.-is kerZo<br />
saxlSi ecxovra, arada,<br />
#25 d -c axali dasaxlebis misamarTi<br />
iyo.<br />
mokled, rogorc iyo, im ma-<br />
Ral Senobas mivadeqiT, romelic<br />
aSkarad axalaSenebuli korpusi<br />
iyo da aseTi kidev erTi Senoba<br />
idga mandve, isic axalaSenebuli,<br />
oRond, SedarebiT muq<br />
ferebSi gadawyvetili.<br />
Cveni mosamarTlis sacxovrebeli<br />
ki 13-sarTulian axalaSenebul<br />
Ria spilosZvlisferisa da<br />
nacrisferis nazavs warmoadgens,<br />
romlis pirvel sarTulze ramdenime<br />
maRazia, ludis bari da<br />
silamazis salonia ganTavsebuli.<br />
korpusi im trasas gadahyurebs,<br />
romelic, erTi mxriv, „axmetelis”<br />
metrosken, meore mxriv,<br />
ki muxianisken midis, sadac urTierTsapirispiro<br />
mimarTulebiT<br />
moZravi manqanebis trasis gamyofi<br />
maradmwvane xeebia odnav<br />
amaRlebul bordiurze Camwkrivebuli.<br />
xsenebulma Seupovarma mZRolma<br />
zustad sadarbazos karTan<br />
Camomsva da Tavis gzas daadga.<br />
xSirad miTqvams, rom mimarTlebs<br />
da imedi mqonda, rom<br />
arc es dRe iqneboda gamonaklisi.<br />
mindoda, vinme mosuliyo,<br />
romelic am axali korpusis kar-<br />
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komfortis zona<br />
is kods moxsnida da SigniT Sesvlis<br />
saSualebas momcemda, radgan<br />
aRmoCnda, rom aRwerili 13-<br />
sarTuliani Senobis Savi da koddadebuli<br />
karis win videqi da<br />
verc Sevdiodi, Tan iseTi dacvis<br />
sistema hqonda, rom verc romelime<br />
mezoblis karze davrekdi<br />
zars ase, sadarbazos karidan,<br />
Tumca xsna, Turme, axlos iyo da,<br />
sul raRac, 20 wami iqneboda<br />
gasuli (arc ki), rom karTan axalgazrda<br />
mamakaci movida, romelmac<br />
sadarbazos kodi akrifa.<br />
erTxel gamomxeda, _ neta, es Cem<br />
ukan Semoyolas apirebso? _ ifiqra,<br />
albaT. me ki metis gafiqrebis<br />
saSualeba ar miveci da maSinve<br />
vkiTxe:<br />
_ ukacravad, es korpusi go-<br />
broniZis #25 d aris?<br />
_ ar vici, me aq stumrad var,<br />
_ miTxra da kodi akrifa. davinaxe,<br />
rac iyo, magram araferi<br />
SevimCnie da rogorc ki kari gaa-<br />
Ro, pirveli me Sematara. _ gmadlobT-meTqi<br />
da mec Sevedi. liftiT<br />
asvla SemomTavaza, _ fexiT<br />
vamjobineb-meTqi. madloba gadavuxade<br />
da sarTulebs maRla<br />
avuyevi.<br />
sadarbazos struqtura Semdegnairia:<br />
SesvlisTanave marcxena<br />
mxares binebia ganTavsebuli,<br />
marjvena mxares ki _ maRla asasvleli<br />
kibeebi.<br />
xelmarcxniv ganTavsebuli<br />
binebi erTmaneTis miyolebiT<br />
Camwkrivebuli karebis erTobliobas<br />
warmoadgens, romelic<br />
derefans qmnis. am derefnidan<br />
gamosvlisa da isev xelmarcxniv<br />
wasvlis Semdeg aRmoCndebiT<br />
liftis pirdapir da Tu amasac<br />
CauvliT da kvlav marcxniv SeuxvevT,<br />
kidev iseT derefans gadaawydebiT,<br />
rogoric wina jerze<br />
aRvniSne, es im kibeebis ukana nawilia,<br />
romelic SesvlisTanave<br />
Semxvda.<br />
mokled, avuyevi kibeebs maRla<br />
da pirveli sarTulis avlis<br />
Semdeg sandomiani saxis qalbatoni<br />
SevniSne, romelsac gamovelaparake:<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti var<br />
„qronika+”-dan, mainteresebs,<br />
xaTuna xarCilavas Tu icnobT?<br />
_ mosamarTles?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ rogorc vici, maRal sarTulze<br />
cxovrobs, me-6, Tu me-9 sarTulia,<br />
mgoni, zustad ar vici.<br />
_ ise, xedavT xolme, gesalme-<br />
baT?<br />
_ ara, Svilo, ubralod, gamigia,<br />
rom aq cxovrobs.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT-meTqi da<br />
gza gavagrZele.<br />
ise, crumorwmune ar var, magram<br />
uceb Zalian bevri 6-iani<br />
momeCvena erTad: Tu Cveni mosamarTle<br />
namdvilad me-6 sarTulze,<br />
#66 binaSi cxovrobda,<br />
Tan binis farTobic xom 60 kv.mia<br />
miTiTebuli deklaraciaSi.<br />
maRla sarTulebze asvlisa<br />
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da carieli, binaSi jerarSesaxlebuli<br />
farTebis raodenoba,<br />
garkveulwilad, proporciuli<br />
aRmoCnda.<br />
ramdenime karze dakakunebisas<br />
mivxvdi, rom dros tyuilad<br />
vkargavdi da iq aravin cxovrobda.<br />
ukve me-3 sarTulze viyavi,<br />
roca karze zaris darekvisTave<br />
gaRebis xma gavige da gamixarda.<br />
maRali, Savgvremani qalbatoni<br />
gamovida, TeTr maisursa da stafilosfer<br />
pijakSi:<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnaliti var,<br />
mainteresebs, mosamarTle xaTu-<br />
na xarCilavas Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ara, ar vicnob.<br />
_ ise, aq cxovrobs, xom, am<br />
korpusSi, am sadarbazoSi?<br />
_ ki, gamigia, rom aq cxovrobs.<br />
_ xedavT xolme? salmiania?<br />
_ iSviaTad vxedavT xolme,<br />
magram vici, rom meuRlesTan<br />
erTad cxovrobs.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
wamosvlisTanave kari gaixura<br />
da mec sxva kars davadgi Tvali,<br />
Tumca amaod.<br />
axla liftisken gavuyevi gzas,<br />
romlis gverdzec kvlav binebi<br />
iyo ganlagebuli. ise moxda, rom<br />
patara, 5-6 wlis gogona iqneboda,<br />
gverdiT Camirbina da im<br />
karze daakakuna, sadac me unda<br />
mivsuliyavi:<br />
_ ufrosebs dauZaxe, kargi?<br />
_ vTxove. dadebiTi pasuxis niSnad<br />
Tavi damiqnia. ramdenime wam-<br />
Si qalbatoni gamovida, etyoba,<br />
raRac saqmes movacdine, Sesa-<br />
Zloa, saWmels akeTebda, Tan ra-<br />
Racas Wamda. movubodiSe da<br />
masac igive vuTxari, rac sxvebs,<br />
Tumca uaris niSnad Tavi gaiqnia,<br />
gamiRima da miTxra:<br />
_ aq Zalian bevri 13-sarTuliani<br />
Senoba dgas, TiTo mxares<br />
eqvsi mosaxlea da samwuxarod,<br />
yvelas ar vicnobT.<br />
_ ise, Tu gagigiaT?<br />
_ ki, ise gamigia, rom aq cxovrobs.<br />
_ gmadlobT.<br />
wamovedi. aqve gamimarTla da<br />
misma mezobelmac gamiRo kari, _<br />
maRali, WaRara mamakaci iyo,<br />
Tavidan gaukvirda Jurnalistis<br />
iq yofna, magram Semdeg ar daibna<br />
da TavdaWerilad mpasuxobda:<br />
_ ara, xarCilava ar gamigia, aq<br />
cxovrobs?<br />
_ ki, maRla sarTulze cx-<br />
ovrobs. mis meuRles xom ar<br />
icnobT, Savlg Samugiaa gvarad.<br />
_ ara, arc meuRles vicnob,<br />
samwuxarod.<br />
wamovedi. axla zemo sarTulze<br />
gadavinacvle. bevri rom ar<br />
vwero da Tqvenc rom ar gadagRaloT,<br />
gamokiTxulTa 90%-is pasuxi<br />
uaryofiTi iyo, _ maT arc<br />
gaegoT da arc ki icodnen, rom<br />
mezoblad mosamarTle xaTuna<br />
xarCilava cxovrobda.<br />
me-6 sarTulze avedi, mricxvelebi<br />
vnaxe, sadac bina #66-ic<br />
iyo miTiTebuli, mere am binas-<br />
Tan mivedi, sadac Savi feris<br />
rkinis kari damxvda, romelsac<br />
oqrosferi cifrebiT 66 ekro,<br />
mis qvemoT jvris gamosaxuleba,<br />
kidev qvemoT ki rkinis dasakakunebeli<br />
mowyobiloba miemagrebinaT.<br />
karis marjvena mxares<br />
(Cvengan), bzis toti iyo Cayolebuli.<br />
kars fotoebi gadavuRe, mezoblebTan<br />
zari davreke, Tumca<br />
amaod da wamovedi. axla erTi<br />
sarTuliT zemoT gadavinacvle<br />
da mindoda, erTi iseTi adamiani<br />
mainc menaxa, romelic Cveni interesis<br />
obieqts icnobda.<br />
erTi sarTuliT maRla liftis<br />
gverdiT rom 6 binaa ganlagebuli,<br />
imaTgan SuaSi romelic<br />
iyo, imas mivadeqi (mxolod<br />
aqedan ismoda xma), zardi<br />
davreke da am dros bavSvis yvirili<br />
mesmis: dedaaa... cota xanSi<br />
kars axalgazrda, Ria feris Tmis<br />
mqone qalbatoni miRebs, romelic<br />
mobilurze saubrobs.<br />
_ gamarjoba, Jurnalisti<br />
var, komfortis zonaze vwer,<br />
mainteresebs, mosamarTle xaTu-<br />
na xarCilavas Tu icnobT?<br />
_ erTi wamiT damelodeo, _<br />
uTxra mobilurSi viRacas, _<br />
erTi sarTuliT qemoT cxovrobs,<br />
_ miTxra.<br />
_ ki, eg vici, mainteresebs,<br />
Tqven Tu icnobT?<br />
_ ise, axlodan ara, magram<br />
ramdenjerme minaxavs, vici, vincaa.<br />
_ rogori mezobelia?<br />
_ ra vici, TiTqmis ver vxedav.<br />
_ mis meuRles Tu icnobT,<br />
Savlegs?<br />
_ meuRles ki, vicnob, salmiani<br />
kacia.<br />
_ TviTon xatiac salmiania<br />
xolme, roca naxulobT?<br />
_ ki, ra vici, iSviaTad vxedav<br />
da ise, icis mosalmeba, ki.<br />
_ kargi, gmadlobT.<br />
_ arafris.<br />
ukve mivxvdi, rom aq dialogebis<br />
gagrZelebas azri aRar hqonda,<br />
radgan mas TiTqmis aravin<br />
icnobda da, Sesabamisad, gauWirdebodaT<br />
kidevac CemTvis saintereso<br />
informaciis mocema.<br />
dabla daveSvi, lifti ar<br />
muSaobda, Tu Cemi gamoZaxebis<br />
dros Seyovnda, ar vici. dabla<br />
fexiT Camovedi. rkinis kari<br />
Zlivs gavaRe da gareT gamovedi,<br />
axla gverdiT myof maRaziaSi<br />
Sevedi, mainteresebda, iqneb, aq<br />
molare gogonebi, an sxva momsaxure<br />
personali Tu icnobda mas,<br />
Tumca aqac amaod, _ axalgaxsnilebi<br />
varT da jer aravis vicnobTo,<br />
_ mipasuxes.<br />
sabolood, muxianisken mimaval<br />
gzaze, gobroniZis quCaze,<br />
13-sarTuliani Senobis me-6<br />
sarTulze, #66 binaSi mosamar-<br />
Tle xaTuna xarCilava davtove<br />
da mis komfortis zonas metad<br />
aRar Sevxebivar.<br />
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aliansma” es gavaprotesteT,<br />
xelisuflebam mainc Tavisi<br />
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da samarTliani kanonmdeblobisTvis<br />
misaRebi iqneboda. amis<br />
Semdeg sayovelTao sajaro<br />
ganxilvebi daiwyo, risTvisac<br />
damoukidebeli komisia Camoyalibda.<br />
es ukve gansxvavebiT<br />
saxelmwifo sakonstitucio<br />
komisiisgan. komisiaSi monawileobis<br />
miReba imitom gadavwyviteT,<br />
rom xelisufleba marto<br />
ar dagvetovebina, Tundac,<br />
mis mier moyvanil gamgeblebTan,<br />
rwmunebulebTan, sipebTan<br />
da aaipebTan, zogadad, sajaro<br />
samsaxurebis warmomadgenleb-<br />
Tan. ase martivad rom ar yofiliyo,<br />
raTa informaciul<br />
vakuumSi ar dagvetovebina sazogadoeba<br />
da maTTvis simar-<br />
Tle gveTqva _ realurad ra<br />
xdeboda da ras gvTavazobda<br />
xelisufleba. amitom am komisiis<br />
muSaobaSi intensiurad<br />
miviReT monawileoba. komisiis<br />
muSaoba, jer kidev, grZeldeba.<br />
rusTavi da Tbilisia dar-<br />
Cenili sazogadoebasTan Sexvedris<br />
kuTxiT. calkeul fokus-jgufebTan<br />
kidev iqneba Sexvedrebi,<br />
Cven aqac aqtiurad<br />
miviRebT monawileobas. komisiis<br />
muSaobaSi Cvens SeniSvnebs<br />
vafiqsirebdiT.<br />
_ opoziciuri partiebi xelisuflebas,<br />
ZiriTadad, pre-<br />
zidentis arCevis wessa da<br />
gadaunawlebeli mandatebis<br />
Taobaze edavebiT...<br />
_ diax, rodesac konstituciaze<br />
vsaubrobT, yvela sakiTxi<br />
da yvela muxli mniSvnelovania,<br />
magram CvenTvis gansakuTrebul<br />
mniSvnelobas iZenda<br />
saarCevno sistemasTan da prezidentis<br />
arCevis wesTan dakav-<br />
Sirebuli sakiTxebi. saarCevo<br />
sistema imitom, rom Tu demokratiulad,<br />
Tavisufal, gam-<br />
Wvirvale da samarTlian pirobebSi<br />
ar irCev xelisuflebas,<br />
amis Semdeg raime demokratiul<br />
zomebze saubari zedmetia da<br />
Tu aseTi arCevnebi tardeba,<br />
mosaxleobas yovelTvis is berketi<br />
rCeba, misTvis aramosawoni<br />
xelisufleba isev gadair-<br />
Cios, Tuki samarTliani da<br />
kanonieri arCevnebi tardeba.<br />
amitom CvenTvis umTavresi es<br />
sistema iyo, maT Soris, am sistemaSi<br />
mxardasaWeri gaxldaT<br />
is sakiTxi, rom Sereuli sistemidan<br />
proporciuli sistemiT<br />
arCevnebze gadavdivarT.<br />
magram gansakuTrebuli kritikis<br />
sagans ara marto Cvengan,<br />
aramed sruliad sazogadoebisgan,<br />
yvela opoziciuri partiisgan<br />
warmoadgenda am pirobeb-<br />
Si gaunawilebeli mandatebis<br />
ganawilebis wesi. gaunawilebel<br />
mandatebTan mimarTebiT xelisufleba<br />
ambobs, rom yvela<br />
mandati man unda waiRos; rom<br />
es sistema, romelsac Cven gTavazobT,<br />
faqtobrivad, ar iZleva<br />
saSualebas, rom sakonstiticio<br />
umravlesobaSi movides<br />
romelime erTi politikuri<br />
Zala da a. S. es yvelaferi tyuilia,<br />
xelisufleba mosaxleobas<br />
atyuebs da aseTi svlebiT,<br />
faqtobrivad, „qarTuli ocneba”<br />
Zalauflebis uzurpaciisken<br />
midis, am svlas, jer kidev,<br />
agrZelebs da gvinda, amas<br />
win aRvudgeT. SemiZlia, martivi<br />
magaliTi moviyvano: Tu,<br />
vTqvaT, arCevnebis Semdeg romelime<br />
politikuri Zala, ufro<br />
metad, saxelisuflebo politikuri<br />
Zala, imitom, rom<br />
goCa TedoraZe:<br />
`xelisufleba<br />
mosaxleobas atyuebs<br />
da Zalauflebis<br />
uzurpaciisken midis!~<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi Zalian didi administraciuli<br />
resursis uxe-<br />
Si CareviT tardeba arCevnebi,<br />
daagrovebs, daaxloebiT, 23%-<br />
s, Tundac bariergadalaxuli<br />
partiebim sxva ufro mets _<br />
24%-s agrovebdes, am pirobeb-<br />
Si gaunawilebeli rCeba mandatebis<br />
53%, amas, aseTi kanonmdeblobiT,<br />
xelisufleba miitacebs<br />
da 23%-iani partia xdeba<br />
76%-iani Zala. e. i. parlamentSi<br />
23%-iani mxardaWerisa<br />
da ndobis mqone politikuri<br />
Zala warmoCindeba, rogorc sakonstitucio<br />
_ 76%-iani umravlesoba.<br />
ufro martivad<br />
rom vTqvaT, Tu partias 4 kac-<br />
Si realurad erTi kacic ar<br />
uWerda mxars, parlamentSi Sei-<br />
Zleba 4 kacSi sam kacze metis<br />
mxardaWeriT iyos warmodgenili<br />
da aseTma politikurma<br />
partiam, romelsac, faqtobrivad,<br />
mxardaWera ar aqvs, unda<br />
daakompleqtos parlamentis<br />
umravlesoba, sakonstitucio<br />
umravlesoba, miiRos nebismieri<br />
konstituciuri kanoni,<br />
amis garda, daakompleqtos<br />
mTavroba da, faqtobrivad,<br />
daniSnos prezidenti, radgan<br />
prezidentis arCevis irib gzaze<br />
undaT svla. swored es iyo<br />
protestis niSani.<br />
_ dRes arasamTavrobo organizaciebTan<br />
gqondaT samu-<br />
Sao Sexvedra. raze isaubreT?<br />
_ swored am sakiTxebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT SevxvdiT arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebs, am<br />
sakiTxebTan mimarTebiT maTi<br />
azri movismineT, Cveni winadadebebic<br />
warvudgineT _ ras<br />
vTavazobdiT xelisuflebas<br />
da, sabolood, SeTanxmebul<br />
variantebzec visaubreT, ra<br />
SeiZleba, am jiut xelisuflebas<br />
imis sapirwoned SevTavazoT,<br />
romelsac surs, rom saarCevno<br />
blokebi gaauqmos, barieri<br />
am pirobebSi 5% datovos,<br />
Tan yvela mandati, rac gaunawilebeli<br />
darCeba, miitacos da<br />
aseTi arCevnebis Catarebis<br />
pirobebSi ukve prezidentic<br />
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iribi wesiT irCeodes, _ rom<br />
odnav mainc SevcvaloT arsebuli<br />
situacia? gamoikveTa er-<br />
Ti mosazreba, romelzedac araerTxel<br />
usaubria Cveni partiis<br />
liders, irma inaSvils, rom<br />
bunebrivi barieri am problemas<br />
moxsnida. rodesac bunebrivi<br />
barieri dawesdeba, amis<br />
meSveobiT SesaZlebelia, parlamentSi<br />
sxvadasxva partiis<br />
warmomadgeneli moxvdes. rodesac<br />
bunebrivi barieri 150-<br />
kaciani parlamentis pirobebSi<br />
iqmneba, daaxloebiT, 0,67%-ia,<br />
es niSnavss, rom damatebiT,<br />
gaTiTokacebulad, sxvadasxva<br />
partiis warmomadgeneli, Sei-<br />
Zleba, 4-5-6 kaciT moxvedriliyo<br />
150-kacian parlamentSi,<br />
romelic, TavisTavad cxadia,<br />
iq disonanss ver gamoiwvevs, magram<br />
am dros SeiZleba xelisuflebis<br />
is ambicia dakmayofildes,<br />
rom SeiZleba aRar arsebobdes<br />
saarCevno blokebi. rodesac<br />
barierze vsaubrobT, am<br />
dabali barieris arsebobis<br />
pirobebSi gaunawilebeli mandatebi<br />
cota darCeba. es bonusis<br />
saxiT SeiZleba xelisuflebam<br />
imisTvis waiRos, rom rogorc<br />
TviTon amboben, garantirebuli<br />
umravlesobis Seqmnis<br />
survili aqvT. iyo iseTi<br />
variantic, rom saarCevno barieri<br />
gavasaSualoT da yvela<br />
donis arCevnebisTvis, TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
iqneba Tu saparlamento,<br />
iyos 4%. dafinansebac<br />
4%-dan warmoeqmnebodeT<br />
saarCevno subieqtebs, politikur<br />
partiebs, Tu oTx da met<br />
procents aiReben. am pirobeb-<br />
Si gaunawilebel mandatebTan<br />
dakavSireviT, saerTo msjelobis<br />
sagniT gamoikeTa aseTi azri,<br />
rom Tu romelime politikuri<br />
partia 40%-s, an mets<br />
agrovebs, gaunawilebeli mandatebi<br />
SeiZleba im odenobiT<br />
waiRos, rac sWirdeba 50%-s<br />
plus erTi xmisTvis, e. i. stabiluri<br />
umravlesobis mopovebisTvis.<br />
Tu politikuri partia<br />
40%-ze mets ver aiRebs,<br />
maSin gaunawilebeli mandatebi<br />
unda ganawildes Tanabrad da<br />
samarTlianad. Tu romelime<br />
politikuri partia 40%-ze zeviT<br />
daagrovebs, magram gaunawilebeli<br />
mandatebis ricxvi ar<br />
aris imdeni, rom romelime<br />
politikuri Zala 50%-s gadascdes,<br />
Tundac yvela mandati<br />
rom misce, am SemTxvevaSic mandatebi<br />
Tanabrad nawildeba. es<br />
iqneba SedarebiT demokratiuli<br />
da imis saSualebas mogvcems,<br />
rom win waweul politikuri<br />
Zalas, gamokveTili upiratesobiT,<br />
romelic 40%-zea,<br />
saSualebas vaZlevT, Zalaufleba<br />
hqondes im kuTxiT, rom<br />
damoukideblad daakompleqtos<br />
mTavroba. Tu aseTi politikuri<br />
Zala ar aris, maSin ke-<br />
Tili unda vineboT da Tu gvinda<br />
saparlamento respublika,<br />
unda vicodeT, rom mas axlavs<br />
is faqtorebic, rom ama Tu im<br />
parlamentSi saWiroa iseTi koaliciebis<br />
Seqmna, romelic xelisuflebas<br />
erToblivad akompleqtebs.<br />
maSin politkurma<br />
Zalam keTili unda inebos da<br />
saerTo ena unda moZebnos im<br />
politikur ZalebTan, romlebic<br />
parlamentSi imisTvis<br />
iqnebian warmodgenilni, rom<br />
mTavroba daakompleqton.<br />
_ prezidentis arCevis wes-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT ra pozicia<br />
gaqvT? parlamentis Tavmjdo-<br />
marem gancxada, saqme iqiTken<br />
midis, rom 2018 wels saprezi-<br />
dento arCevnebi pirdapiri<br />
wesiT aRar gaimarTeba...<br />
_ rodesac xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadgenlebi TiTis qneviT<br />
saubroben, rom Tu margvelaSvili<br />
cudad moiqceva, 2023<br />
wels ki ara, 2018-Si CavatarebT<br />
arCevnebs arapirdapiri wesi-<br />
To, es saxelmwifoebrivi da<br />
konstituciuri azrovnebisgan<br />
Zalze Sors dgas, radgan konstitucia<br />
imisTvis gvinda, ra<br />
sWirdeba qveyanas da ara imisTvis,<br />
erTi pirovnebis, Tundac,<br />
qveynis prezidentis gancxadebebi<br />
cxovrebis ama Tu im<br />
etapze ra iqneba da amas movargoT.<br />
rac Seexeba prezidentis<br />
arCevis wess, migvaCnia, rom<br />
prezidentis pirdapiri, sayovelTao<br />
wesiT arCeva, Cveni<br />
qveynisTvis es ukve miRweuli<br />
mijnaa, demokratiisken gadadgmuli<br />
mZlavri nabijia da am<br />
poziciidan ukusvla, TavisTavad<br />
cxadia, qveyanas sasikeTod<br />
ver waadgeba, miT umetes, rom<br />
prezidentis arCevis aseTi wesi<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
ar aris akrZaluli da bevr<br />
iseT qveyanaSia, sadac saparlamento<br />
respublikebi arsebobs.<br />
ukusvlis gasamarTleblad xelisuflebisgan<br />
verc erTi Rirebuli<br />
argumenti ver movismineT.<br />
metic, saarCevno sistema<br />
(romelzedac vrclad visaubreT)<br />
iseTi unda darCes, romelSic<br />
erT politikur Zalas,<br />
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />
mxridan nakleb ndobis mqones,<br />
ufleba ar eqneba, Tavad daakompleqtos<br />
yvelaferi _ parlamenti,<br />
mTavroba da, faqtobrivad,<br />
prezidentis arCevnebi<br />
daarqvas. magram daniSnvna ver<br />
iqneba demokratiuli da qveynisTvis<br />
sasikeTo.<br />
_ bolo dReebSi sazogadoe-<br />
bis sxvadasxva jgufis mxridan<br />
gaisma kritikuli gancxadebe-<br />
bi ucxoelebze miwis miyidvis<br />
Sesaxeb. Tqven ras fiqrobT am<br />
sakiTxze?<br />
_ miwis sakiTxebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT Cveni pozicia gamokve-<br />
Tili iyo, pirvelebi viyaviT,<br />
vinc acxadebda, rom Cveni qveynis<br />
miwebi ucxoeTis moqalaqeebze<br />
ar unda iyidebodes. dResac<br />
am poziciaze varT. xelisuflebam<br />
Cveni imedebi aqac ver<br />
gaamarTla. xelisufleba ambobs,<br />
rom miwis gansakuTrebuli<br />
statusis Caweras apirebs<br />
konstituciaSi, magram miwa<br />
gaiyideba Tu ara ucxoeTis<br />
moqalaqeebze, amis daregulireba<br />
organuli kanoniT unda<br />
moxdes. es, TiTqos, imasTan<br />
SedarebiT, raRac winsvlaa,<br />
radgan miwas gansakuTrebul<br />
statuss vaniWebT, magram imas<br />
ar niSnavs, rom ucxoeTis moqalaqeebze<br />
miwis gayidva avkrZaleT.<br />
amitom Cveni myari poziciaa,<br />
rom Cveni miwebi ucxoeTis<br />
moqalaqeebze ar unda iyidebodes,<br />
Cven Tanaxma varT, Semodiodes<br />
ucxouri investiciebi<br />
99-wliani, 50-wliani, ijaris<br />
formiT da a. S., magram miwa<br />
ucxoelze ar unda iyidebodes.<br />
_ sakonstitucio sakiTxebis<br />
komisia proeqtis sayovel-<br />
Tao ganxilvas atarebs, sadac,<br />
ZiriTadad, saxelisuflebo<br />
resursia warmodgenili. gar-<br />
da amisa, arc erT moqalaqes<br />
TvaliT ar unaxavs axali kon-<br />
stituciis proeqti da zepi-<br />
rad msjeloben sakiTxis irgv-<br />
liv. rogor fiqrobT, aseT<br />
pirobebSi raime Sedegis mo-<br />
mtania msgavsi tipis sajaro<br />
ganxilvebi?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, es sayovelTao<br />
ganxilvebi garkveul ukmarisobis<br />
grZnobas tovebs imitom,<br />
rom xelisuflebas, ZiriTadad,<br />
iq, masze samsaxurebrivad<br />
damokidebuli adamianebi<br />
mohyavs. cxadia, es srul obieqtur<br />
suraTs ver qmnis, magram<br />
miuxedavad amisa, erTi mxriv,<br />
kargia, radgan zogierTma politikurma<br />
Zalam SevZeliT is,<br />
rom am sajaro ganxilvebSi<br />
vmonawileobT da mosaxleobis<br />
im nawils, romelsac, TiTqos,<br />
xelisufleba valdebulebad<br />
uTvlis, rom misi mxardamWeri<br />
iyos, radgan sajaro samsaxur-<br />
Si muSaobs, simarTles veubnebiT,<br />
rasTan dakavSirebiTac<br />
xelisufleba arsad saubrobs.<br />
faqtobrivad, Tqven ver naxavT<br />
verc erT ganxilvas, sadac mosaxleobas<br />
winaswar daurigda<br />
is, razedac msjeloba midis.<br />
xelisufleba Tu imas ambobs,<br />
rom es internetsaSualebebi-<br />
Taa gamoqveynebuli, arasworia.<br />
_ umravlesobac da opoziciac<br />
„veneciis komisiis” daskvnebs<br />
elodeba. Tqven ra das-<br />
kvnas eliT?<br />
_ vfiqrobT, rom „veneciis<br />
komisia” saprezidento arCevnebis<br />
wesTan dakavSirebiT Zalian<br />
did, raime saprotesto gancxadebas<br />
ar gaakeTebs imitom,<br />
rom, realurad, prezidentis<br />
pirdapiri da iribi wesiT arCevnebi<br />
sxvadasxva demokratiul<br />
da ganviTarebul qveynebSi arsebobs,<br />
magram „veneciis komisiisTvis”<br />
kargi iqneba, Tu<br />
siRrmiseulad, kompleqsurad<br />
dainaxavs am sakiTxs, rom prezidentis<br />
arCevis aseT wess gvTavazobs<br />
is xelisufleba, romelic,<br />
amavdroulad, gveubneba,<br />
rom saarCevno sistema unda<br />
datovos isev maxinji, araTanabari,<br />
gaumWvirvale da arCevnebi<br />
unda Catardes ise, rom erT<br />
politikur Zalas daumsaxureblad<br />
unda mivceT xelisuflebaSi<br />
warmodgenis privilegia,<br />
aseve prezidentis arCevis. Tu<br />
amas dainaxavs, TavisTavad cxadia,<br />
am nawilSic kritikuli<br />
iqneba, Tu ver dainaxavs, cxadia,<br />
maTTvis es ar iqneba mniSvnelovani<br />
sakiTxi. rac Seexeba<br />
saarCevno sistemas da mandatebis<br />
gadanawilebis drakonul<br />
meTods, romelsac xelisufleba<br />
gvTavazobs, migvaCnia, rom<br />
„veneciis komisia” am sakiTxze<br />
Seuvali da mkacri iqneba.<br />
_ mouwevs xelisuflebas<br />
ukan daxeva?<br />
_ xelisuflebas mouwevs<br />
raRac nabijebze ukan wasvla.<br />
es ukan daxeva iqneba Tu ufro<br />
demokratiuli svla, uaress<br />
SemogvTavazebs xelisufleba<br />
da maJoritaruli sistema rac<br />
arsebobda, raSic „veneciis komisia”<br />
mkacri da Seuvalia, isev<br />
davtovoT, xelisuflebas Tav-<br />
Si ra mouva, es jer ar vici, magram,<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi, am xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSi yvelaferia<br />
mosalodneli. Sei-<br />
Zleba iyos ukan daxevac da<br />
uaresobisken svlac.<br />
_ uaresobisken svla Tu moxda,<br />
Semdgom ras gegmavT? sa-<br />
zogadoebis mzaobas Tu xedavT,<br />
rom protesti gamoacxa-<br />
dos?<br />
_ Znelia Tqva, rom amJamad<br />
sazogadoebaSi protestis didi<br />
muxtia, magram vfiqrobT,<br />
rom Cveni mosaxleobis Zalian<br />
didi nawili am problemis mimarT<br />
gulgrili ar darCeba.<br />
amis Tqmis safuZvels maZlevs<br />
isic, rom xelisuflebam 2015<br />
wels sagarejoSi, lokalurad,<br />
erT saarCevno olqSi „patriotTa<br />
alianss” arCevnebi gagviyalba<br />
(konkretulad Cvens kandidat<br />
irma inaSvils). maSin sakuTari<br />
xmebis dacvis mizniT<br />
aTasobiT adamiani gamovida<br />
rusTavelis ZeglTan, msvleloba<br />
moewyo da protestis ukidures<br />
formasac mivmarTeT.<br />
vfiqrob, rom Tu iseTi kanoni<br />
miiRes, romliTac, faqtobrivad,<br />
mosaxleobas arCevnis uflebas<br />
arTmeven, maSinac mosaxleobis<br />
didi nawili gamova da<br />
am sakiTxs gaaprotestebs. „patriotTa<br />
aliansi” jer daelodeba<br />
„veneciis komisiis” daskvnas,<br />
mis safuZvelze xelisuflebis<br />
qmedebebs. Tu es xelisufleba<br />
gons ar mova da saar-<br />
Cevno garemos ukeTesobisken<br />
ar Secvlis, TavisTavad cxadia,<br />
ufro mkacr formebs mivmar-<br />
TavT.<br />
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599 45 50 26<br />
ra pozicia aqvs leiboristul<br />
partias sakonstitucio cvlilebebis mimarT? ras moutans<br />
aRniSnuli reforma qveyanas, mis samomavlo ganviTarebis perspeqtivas?<br />
ra resursi rCeba msgavsi sadavo nabijebis winaaRm-<br />
deg politikur speqtrs, mTlianad sazogadoebas? ra iwvevs<br />
samuSao adgilebze tragediebs da ra unda gakeTdes amis Tavidan<br />
asacileblad? iuri luJkovis skandaluri viziti da xelisu-<br />
flebis damokidebuleba, partiis uaxloesi saarCevno gegmebi...<br />
am da sxva kiTxvebze „qroni-<br />
ka+”-s pasuxobs leiboristuli<br />
partiis erT-erTi lideri _<br />
giorgi gugava:<br />
_ batono giorgi, mimdinare<br />
sakonstitucio cvlilebebis<br />
mimarT Tqveni damokidebuleba<br />
rogoria?<br />
_ realurad, es sakonstitucio<br />
gadatrialebaa. yvelaferi<br />
imisTvis xdeba, raTa ivaniSvilma<br />
qveyanaSi Tavisi araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba mravali wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi SeinarCunos. mogexsenebaT,<br />
pirvel etapze proces-<br />
Si aqtiurad vmonawileobdi, rodesac<br />
saxelmwifo sakonstitucio<br />
komisiis wevri viyavi. pirdapir<br />
getyviT, rom es dokumenti<br />
iq ar SemuSavebula, igi bolo<br />
etapze gamomcxvari warmoadgines.<br />
manamde iyo sxva winadadebebi,<br />
msjelobebi mimdinareobda<br />
da aqedan arsebiTi da mniSvnelovani<br />
arc erTi winadadeba ar<br />
gaiTvaliswines.<br />
rodesac prezidentis pirdapiri<br />
arCevis wesi uqmdeba, es imis<br />
niSania, rom ivaniSvils eSinia,<br />
xalxma SeiZleba airCios Zlieri,<br />
qarizmatuli politikuri lideri,<br />
romelic, bunebrivia, safr-<br />
Txes Seuqmnis mis araformalur<br />
Zalauflebas.<br />
amitom is auqmebs pirdapiri<br />
arCevis wess, rac, realurad,<br />
imas niSnavs, rom qveynis suverenitets,<br />
saxelmwifos ZiriTad simboloebs<br />
exeba, miT umetes, rodesac<br />
qveyanas aseTi gamocdileba<br />
da tradiciebi aqvs; rodesac<br />
prezidenti xelisuflebis Stoebs<br />
Soris gamawonasworebeli<br />
unda iyos da Semakavebeli funqcia<br />
hqondes.<br />
Tuki prezidents „ocnebis”<br />
300 „mgosani” airCevs, bunebrivia,<br />
es jibis, sruliad uuflebo<br />
prezidenti iqneba wminda simboluri<br />
datvirTviT. amitom<br />
cdilobs, rom prezidentis arCevnebTan<br />
mimarTebiT zustad ase-<br />
Ti proeqti gaitanos.<br />
rac Seexeba saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis ukanono models, wess,<br />
pirdapir konstituciiT vadgenT<br />
mandatebis moparvas, anu xelisufleba<br />
im xmebs miiTvisebs, romelic<br />
realurad mis winaaRmdeg<br />
micemuli iqneba da am gziT Seqmnis<br />
umravlesobas. mogexsenebaT,<br />
umravlesoba am modelis Sesabamisad<br />
akompleqtebs mTavrobas da<br />
gveyoleba marionetTa jgufi<br />
TavSi ivaniSviliT.<br />
administraciul-finansuri<br />
resursis gamoyenebiT SesaZlebelia<br />
20% moiparos (wina arCevnebze<br />
xelisuflebam swored ase<br />
gaakeTa). amas mciredi reitingi<br />
davumatoT da, daaxloebiT, 25-<br />
30%-iani partia umravlesobaSi<br />
gava. SeiZleba, mTeli mosaxleoba,<br />
amomrCevlis 70%, winaaRmdegi<br />
iyos da legitimacia ar hqondes,<br />
magram mainc aseT politikur<br />
jgufs (am SemTxvevaSi mmar-<br />
Tvel jgufzea saubari) umravlesoba<br />
hqondes.<br />
24<br />
gela mamulaSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
konstituciiT swored am wess<br />
adgenen. anu suraTs mTlianoba-<br />
Si Tu davinaxavT, yvelaferi iqiTken<br />
aris mimarTuli, rom ivaniSvilis<br />
farul, uCinar, araformalur<br />
mmarTvelobas safrTxe<br />
ar Seeqmnas. is ministrebis,<br />
parlamentis wevrebis, meriis,<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis wevrebisa Tu<br />
sxva saxiT paikebs moZebnis. anu<br />
am SemTxvevaSi ivaniSvils pirdapir<br />
konstituciur models argeben.<br />
mTeli es manqana SeTanxmebulia,<br />
yvelaferi misi miTiTebiT<br />
ukve dawerilia da rac mis<br />
irgvliv danarCeni xdeba, _ mmarTveli<br />
partiis qmedebebi, ritorika<br />
da a. S. _ es ukve sruli<br />
farsia.<br />
amas evropul, tradiciulkonstituciuri<br />
samarTlis<br />
principebTan aranairi kavSiri ar<br />
aqvs. sxvadasxva konstituciuri<br />
sistemidan maTTvis sasurveli<br />
punqtebi ase amokenkes da Worvileli<br />
batonis interesebs moarges.<br />
_ magram aRniSnuli reforma<br />
qveyanas, mis samomavlo ganvi-<br />
Tarebis perspeqtivas ras mou-<br />
tans?<br />
_ qveyanas mxolod ukusvlas<br />
moutans, radgan es yvelaferi<br />
samarTlebriv-demokratiuli<br />
principebidan Zalian Sors dgas,<br />
amitom erTi kacis batonobas<br />
mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi gaagrZelebs.<br />
oligarqiuli mmar-<br />
Tvelobis pirobebSi kidev ufro<br />
giorgi gugava:<br />
`prezidents SeuZlia<br />
gadadges da mTlianad<br />
aireva is dalagebuli<br />
konstituciuri<br />
ablabuda, romelic<br />
ivaniSvilma Caifiqra!~<br />
gauaresdeba Tavisuflebis, demokratiis,<br />
pluralizmis TvalsazrisiT<br />
mdgomareoba.<br />
socialur-ekonomikuri vi-<br />
Tareba dResac umZimesia, katastrofulia<br />
da vfiqrob, es yvelaferi<br />
kidev ufro gauaresdeba.<br />
radgan msgavsi sistema qveynis<br />
ganviTarebas ar cnobs, mxolod<br />
viwro, finansurad Zlieri,<br />
monopoliuri jgufebis interesebs,<br />
maT kvlav gamdidrebas<br />
emsaxureba.<br />
bunebrivia, es yvelaferi mosaxleobis<br />
mzardi eqspluataciis,<br />
maT monur mdgomareobaSi<br />
yofnis xarjze xdeba. amdenad,<br />
perspeqtiva sakmaod bundovania.<br />
anu, erTi mxriv, Cven vkargavT<br />
Tavisuflebas. amis dakargvaa,<br />
rodesac piradad garTmeven uflebas,<br />
rom Seni qveynis meTauri,<br />
mTavarsardali airCio. aseve ise-<br />
Ti parlamenti airCio, romelic<br />
xelisuflebis formirebas moaxdens.<br />
`prezidents SeuZlia, gadadges da mTlianad<br />
aireva is dalagebuli konstituciuri ablabuda<br />
da sqemebi, romelic ivaniSvilma Caifiqra, rom<br />
ganaxorcielos. am SemTxvevaSi, konstitucias<br />
ver miiReben, riggareSe saprezidento arCevnebi<br />
unda Catardes. es saprezidento arCevnebi<br />
SegviZlia, erTgvar, referendumad vaqcioT,<br />
sazogadoebis gamokiTxvad, rom gindaT Tu ara<br />
ivaniSvilis batonobasa da ymobaSi cxovreba?<br />
Tu gsurT, rom Tavisufali xalxi iyoT,<br />
Tavisuflad irCevdeT qveynis meTaurs, sakuTar<br />
xelisuflebas? amave dros, am yvelafers<br />
iuridiuli gagrZeleba, samarTlebrivi<br />
mniSvnelobac eqneba. isini konstitucias ZalaSi<br />
ver Seiyvanen. pirdapiri wesiT axlad arCeuli<br />
prezidenti im uflebamosilebebiT gveyoleba,<br />
rac mas sadReisod konstituciiT aqvs. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, aRniSnuli procesis SeCereba<br />
SesaZlebelia~<br />
am dros geubnebian, rom Sen<br />
visac ginda, imas mieci xma, magram<br />
am xmas miviTviseb da me vici,<br />
rogor unda Camovayalibo mTavroba<br />
da rogor unda ganvaviTaroo.<br />
es Tavisuflebis warTmevaa,<br />
aba, ra aris?! moqalaqis erTerTi<br />
mTavari ufleba Tavisufal<br />
samyaroSi arCevanis uflebaa<br />
da rodesac amas garTmeven,<br />
bunebrivia, es fundamenturi<br />
uflebis SezRudvaa. xolo am<br />
sistemasa da pirobebSi Rirseuli<br />
arsebobis, sicocxlis, samarTlianobis<br />
ufleba isedac<br />
warTmeuli gvaqvs.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, aRniSnuli<br />
procesi qveynisTvis, mxolod<br />
da mxolod, katastrofis momtania.<br />
amitom vfiqrob, rom es qveyanaSi<br />
absoluturad yvelas Seexeba.<br />
es marto viwro politikur<br />
jgufebs, an sazogadoebriv organizaciebs<br />
ar exeba. es TiToeuli<br />
moqalaqis valia, mis interesebSi<br />
Sedis, rom daicvas sakuTari<br />
Tavisufleba, sakuTari saxelmwifo,<br />
samarTlianoba, demokratia<br />
da Tavisive Svilebis momavali.<br />
ai, amaze gadis dRes konstituciuri<br />
problema.<br />
_ politikur speqtrs, mTli-<br />
anad sazogadoebas ra resursi<br />
rCeba msgavsi nabijebis winaaRm-<br />
deg?<br />
_ yvela resursi gamosayenebelia.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi aprobirebuli<br />
Zala masobrivi aqciebia. saboloo<br />
jamSi, albaT, aqamde unda<br />
mivideT.<br />
rasakvirvelia, sxva saSualebebic<br />
aris. igive prezidents<br />
SeuZlia, gadadges da mTlianad<br />
aireva is dalagebuli konstituciuri<br />
ablabuda da sqemebi,<br />
romelic ivaniSvilma Caifiqra,<br />
rom ganaxorcielos. am SemTxvevaSi,<br />
konstitucias ver miiReben,<br />
riggareSe saprezidento<br />
arCevnebi unda Catardes.<br />
es saprezidento arCevnebi<br />
SegviZlia, erTgvar, referendumad<br />
vaqcioT, sazogadoebis<br />
gamokiTxvad, rom gindaT Tu ara<br />
ivaniSvilis batonobasa da ymoba-<br />
Si cxovreba? Tu gsurT, rom<br />
Tavisufali xalxi iyoT, Tavisuflad<br />
irCevdeT qveynis meTaurs,<br />
sakuTar xelisuflebas?<br />
amave dros, am yvelafers iuridiuli<br />
gagrZeleba, samarTlebrivi<br />
mniSvnelobac eqneba.<br />
isini konstitucias ZalaSi ver<br />
Seiyvanen. pirdapiri wesiT axlad<br />
arCeuli prezidenti im uflebamosilebebiT<br />
gveyoleba, rac mas<br />
24 N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.
sadReisod konstituciiT aqvs.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, aRniSnuli<br />
procesis SeCereba SesaZlebelia.<br />
magram aq mTavaria sazogadoebis<br />
mobilizeba, masobrivi<br />
aqciebi da winaaRmdegobis gaweva.<br />
sxvagvarad aseT reJimebs<br />
Tavidan ver icileben.<br />
_ tyibulSi, mindelis ma-<br />
RaroSi, tragedia datrialda,<br />
rasac kompaniis oTxi Tanam-<br />
Sromeli Seewira. ra iwvevs am<br />
tipis tragediebs da ra unda<br />
gakeTdes amis Tavidan asacile-<br />
blad?<br />
_ esec mmarTvelobis maxinj<br />
sistemasTan aris dakavSirebuli.<br />
es aris Tanamedrove monaTmflobeluri<br />
sistema, rodesac<br />
mdidrebi batonoben da politikuri<br />
Zalaufleba mTlianad<br />
xelT upyriaT. bunebrivia, isini<br />
ar dauSveben iseT regulaciebs,<br />
sakanonmdeblo normebs, rodesac<br />
rigiTi daqaravebuli muSakebis<br />
uflebebi daculi iqneba.<br />
sakonstitucio komisiaSi<br />
ganxilvis dros erT-erTi mTavari<br />
sakiTxi, sxva mniSvnelovan<br />
socialur sakiTxebTan erTad,<br />
esec iyo. piradad (aseve saxalxo<br />
damcvelma, sxva arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebma) davayene, rom<br />
uSualod konstituciaSi mkacri<br />
regulaciebi dawesebuliyo usafrTxo<br />
samuSao garemos Sesaxeb.<br />
realurad, katastrofuli<br />
statistika gvaqvs, 400-mde adamiani<br />
gardacvlilia da xSir SemTxvevaSi<br />
gamoZieba amas gardacvlilebs<br />
abralebs. amave dros,<br />
aTasze meti daSavebul-dasaxi-<br />
Crebulia, rodesac aseT sawarmoebSi,<br />
obieqtebze moqalaqeTa<br />
samuSao elementaruli pirobebi<br />
daucvelia.<br />
amas investicia, Tanxebi sWirdeba,<br />
amis gaReba ki ar undaT.<br />
jer erTi: monur, katorRul<br />
yofas udris maRaroelebis Sroma,<br />
romlebsac lukma-puris, ra-<br />
Rac kapikebis safasurad, araadamianur<br />
pirobebSi uwevT muSaoba.<br />
miT umetes, sabWoTa, 50-iani<br />
wlebisdroindeli teqnikiT muSaoba<br />
uwevT, sadac minimaluri<br />
usafrTxoebis normebic ki<br />
daucvelia.<br />
amitom Cven vxedavT, rom realurad<br />
sasaklaod aris gadaqceuli<br />
mindelis maRaro. isic<br />
gaiTvaliswineT, rom es yvelaferi<br />
mTavrobasTan Sekrul da<br />
morgebul, maT damfinansebel<br />
beJuaSvilebis sakuTrebaSia. bunebrivia,<br />
es finansuri klanebi,<br />
oligarqebi ar dauSveben iseTi<br />
sistemis Seqmnas, mis sakanonmdeblo<br />
regulacias, romliTac moqalaqeTa<br />
uflebebi daculi iqneba.<br />
aRniSnul katastrofebs swored<br />
es iwvevs. amitom maTi sisxli<br />
am adamianebis (ivaniSviliT<br />
dawyebuli, danarCeniT gagr-<br />
Zelebuli) sindiszea, maT kiserzea<br />
da moekiTxebaT.<br />
_ fasanauris saprotesto<br />
aqciasTan dakavSirebiT gancxa-<br />
deba gaakeTeT, aRniSnul ener-<br />
gomagistralTan mimarTebiT<br />
Tqveni pozicia rogoria?<br />
_ es energomagistrali kalaZe-ivaniSvilis<br />
pirad biznesinteresebs<br />
ukavSirdeba. sxvaTa Soris,<br />
amas geopolitikuri aspeqtebic<br />
aqvs. ruseTis energosistemas<br />
somxeT-iranis sistemas<br />
uerTeben. am dros, Cveni mosaxleobis,<br />
qveynis interesebs ar<br />
dagideven.<br />
jer erTi, ekologiuri katastrofaa,<br />
rasac isini akeTeben.<br />
pirdapir Cexen, anadgureben ekogaremos,<br />
mdinareebs. erT-erT<br />
sofelSi pirdapir sasaflaoze<br />
gadadian. iq marto anZebi ki ar<br />
montaJdeba, masTan misasvleli<br />
gzebis gamo iCexeba da nadgurdeba<br />
garemo.<br />
es, mxolod da mxolod, imisTvis<br />
keTdeba, rom piradi biznesinteresebi<br />
amoZravebs ivaniSvil-kalaZes,<br />
iseve, rodesac<br />
„gazpromTan” aformebdnen xelSekrulebas.<br />
jer erTi, ekonomikur-energetikuli<br />
TvalsazrisiT<br />
qveynisTvis zaralisa<br />
da zianis momtania. meore mxriv,<br />
katastrofuli Sedegebi moaqvs,<br />
lamis mTeli saqarTvelo unda<br />
gadaiWras. amiT mxolod aRniSnuli<br />
personebi isargebleben.<br />
ucxoeTSi maTi sabanko angariSebi<br />
kvlav am qveynis ganadgurebis<br />
xarjze gaizrdeba.<br />
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rogorc vxedavT, aqac isev<br />
sistemur simaxinjesTan mivdivarT,<br />
mmarTvel klasTan, banditebTan,<br />
romlebic ar dagideven<br />
arc adamianebis sicocxles,<br />
arc fundamentur uflebebs,<br />
arc qveynis interesebs, ekologiur<br />
garemos da a. S.<br />
igive darialhesi rom gaxsnes<br />
(sxvaTa Soris, infrastruqturis<br />
ministr alaviZis aSenebulia,<br />
romelic, Tavis droze, „nacionalur<br />
moZraobas” afinansebda),<br />
dRes ukve am xelisuflebas kargad<br />
moergo da... aq kidev devdoraki<br />
daiZra, tragediebi datrialda,<br />
Tergi mTlian salte-<br />
Si moaqcies. praqtikulad, Ria<br />
sivrce ar iqneba, rac iq, saboloo<br />
jamSi, katastrofas gamoiwvevs.<br />
iciT, es risTvis gakeTda? isev<br />
maTi piradi interesebia. qarTul<br />
energosistemaSi arafer<br />
wvlils ar Seitans, am gziT eleqtroenergia<br />
isev ruseTSi unda<br />
gaiyidos. am gziT swored alaviZeebis,<br />
kalaZeebis, ivaniSvilebis<br />
piradi angariSebi Seivseba.<br />
gaxsovT, rogor ganadurda<br />
Woroxis xeoba. vuyurebT, Tu<br />
rogor savsea ekomigrantebiT<br />
baTumi da dasavleT saqarTvelo.<br />
samwuxarod, es procesi gagrZeldeba,<br />
radgan bunebaSi uxe-<br />
Si Careva swored aseT Sedegebs<br />
iwvevs. amdenad Cven yofna-aryofnis<br />
sakiTxi gvidgas, _ an isini,<br />
an Cven unda viyoT. qveyanas,<br />
samSoblos, sxelmwifos vkargavT<br />
uflebrivi, saarsebo, ekologiuri,<br />
sacxovrisis TvalsazriT<br />
da meti raRa unda iyos? amis<br />
iqiT sikvdilia, xolo dRevandeli<br />
reJimi, faqtobrivad, sikvdilis<br />
manqanad iqca.<br />
_ iuri luJkovis viziti da<br />
xelisuflebis damokidebule-<br />
bac SevafasoT...<br />
_ aq mTavari xelisuflebis<br />
damokidebuleba ki ar aris, mTavaria,<br />
Cveni xelisufleba am yvelafris<br />
xelSemwyobi iyo. rogor<br />
ggoniaT, rodesac luJkovi aq<br />
modioda, viTom turistiviT, SortebiT<br />
Semovida sazRvarze da<br />
pasporti uCvena? is aris kremlis<br />
erT-erTi satrapi, romelic<br />
aqtiurad monawileobda okupaciis<br />
procesSi, romelmac gadaiara<br />
qarTvelebis sofel Tamara-<br />
Senze, miwasTan gaaswores da axali<br />
dasaxleba wamoWimes. amave<br />
dros, afxazeTSi aqtiurad Car-<br />
Tuli iyo, rogorc miliarderi,<br />
„boevikebs” afinansebda, iaraRs<br />
awvdida a. S. amaze saubari Sors<br />
wagviyvans.<br />
da es luJkovi ase Tavisuflad<br />
Semovidoda saqarTvelo-<br />
Si? ra Tqma unda, is xelisuflebasTan<br />
SeTanxmebuli iyo, dacvis<br />
maRali garantiebi hqonda, is<br />
miiRes da mere raRac suleluri<br />
motivebi moigones imasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT, rom, Turme, pasportSi<br />
araferi Cawerili ar hqonda,<br />
Turme, am, SemTxvevaSi, pasporti<br />
da piradi mowmoba yofila mTavari,<br />
mere xandazmulobis vada<br />
moigones, axla amboben, Sav siaSi<br />
SeviyvaneTo da a. S.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, pirdapir<br />
Cans kolaboracionizmi, Tanam-<br />
Sromloba mterTan, _ mxolod<br />
ase SeiZleba Sefasdes. xelisuflebis<br />
es qceva klasikuri Ralatia,<br />
meti araferi. aq danaSaulebrivi<br />
umoqmedoba ki ar aris,<br />
es mterTan TanamSromloba, saxelmwifo<br />
Ralatia, ase unda kvalificirdebodes<br />
es yvelaferi.<br />
axla xom gasagebia, ratom Robaven<br />
uproblemod rusebi qar-<br />
Tul teritoriebs?! ratom klaven<br />
Cvens kontrolirebad teritoriaze<br />
giga oTxozorias?! ratom<br />
cxvrebiviT itaceben Cvens<br />
Tanamoqalaqeebs, radgan mter-<br />
Tan Sekruli xelisufleba<br />
gvyavs! mis pirad, qonebriv, finansur<br />
Zalauflebis interesebs<br />
rom araferi Seexos, arc moqalaqes<br />
dagideven da arc qveynis<br />
interesebs.<br />
es TiToeuli qarTvelis RirsebisTvis<br />
Seuracxmyofeli iyo.<br />
im gmirebis xsovnisTvis, vinc<br />
sisxli daRvara qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobisTvis,<br />
misi teritoriuli<br />
mTlianobisTvis.<br />
luJkovi ki utifrad modis da<br />
gvicxadebs, rom rac male CamoiSorebT<br />
im teritoriebs, miT<br />
ukeTesi iqnebao. amaze damamcirebeli,<br />
Rirsebis amyreli ra unda<br />
iyos?! ai, aseTi xelisufleba<br />
gvyavs!<br />
_ uaxloes arCevnebSi lei-<br />
boristebs ra gegmebi aqvT?<br />
_ mxolod arCevnebi gamosavali<br />
ar unda iyos. sanam komisiis<br />
aTiaTasobiT moqrTamuli wevri<br />
gvyavs, sanam es gamyalbebeli<br />
sistema arsebobs, Cven didi iluziebis<br />
qveS ar unda viyoT.<br />
amis naTeli magaliTi bolo<br />
arCevnebi iyo, rodesac is totalurad<br />
gaayalbes. es, pirvel rigSi,<br />
Cven gagviyalbes, ris Sesaxebac<br />
ivaniSvili pirdapir acxadebda.<br />
aseve sxva politikur<br />
Zalebs gauyalbes, vinc maT politikur<br />
interesSi ar Sedioda.<br />
amitom unda vifiqroT er-<br />
Tian, Zlier frontze, romelic<br />
am reJims daupirispirdeba. dRes<br />
am mxriv yofna-aryofnis sakiTxi<br />
dgas. Cven mas an davamarcxebT, an<br />
Segviwiravs, amitom amosavali<br />
unda iyos swored realuri<br />
mocemuloba.<br />
nu SevqmniT iluzias, rom mxolod<br />
demokratiuli, samarTlebrivi,<br />
saarCevno gzebiT Sesa-<br />
Zlebelia xelisuflebis Secvla.<br />
sazogadoebam aqtiuri winaaRmdegoba<br />
unda gauwios da Cven, bunebrivia,<br />
am brZolis avangardSi<br />
viqnebiT.<br />
erTaderTi Tu ara, erT-erTi<br />
yvelaze gamorCeuli, Seurigebeli<br />
politikuri partia varT,<br />
aseTi lideria Salva naTelaSvili<br />
da Cven am gziT gavagrZelebT<br />
reJimis winaaRmdeg brZolas.<br />
25
Tamar rostiaSvili<br />
577 10 07 06<br />
jandacvis ministris moadgile<br />
valeri kvaracxeliam 5 maiss gadadgomis Sesaxeb gancxa-<br />
deba dawera. valeri kvaracxelias qaliSvili biznesmen roman<br />
fifias rZalia (vaJiSvilis coli). roman fifia, Tavis mxriv,<br />
„dinamos” stadionis mepatrone da „rusTavis azotis qarxnis”<br />
yofili mflobelia („azotSi” mis magivrad aqciebis mflo-<br />
belad misi Zma, roin fifia figurirebda).<br />
2016 wels valeri kvaracxelias<br />
mZaxlis _ fifiebis mflobeloba-<br />
Si Semavali „azotis qarxana” gakotrda.<br />
fifia amaod cdilobda<br />
qarxnis gadarCenas _ saboloo jam-<br />
Si, igi kompania „eu investment”-is xelSi<br />
aRmoCnda. „rusTavis azotis”<br />
aqciebi „eu investment”-is generalurma<br />
direqtorma, efrem urumaSvilma<br />
iyida, romlis gvaric saqarTvelos<br />
yofil premier-ministr<br />
biZina ivaniSvilTan dakavSirebul<br />
biznesebSic figurirebda.<br />
ivaniSvilTan misi kavSiris gaxmaurebis<br />
Semdeg urumaSvilma xmamaRla<br />
ganacxada, rom konkretul biznesTan<br />
ivaniSvils aranairi kavSiri<br />
ar aqvs.<br />
aq iyo erTi detali _ fifiebi<br />
„rusTavis azotis” aqciebis sxvis<br />
xelSi gadasvlas ase advilad ar<br />
Sehguebian. qarxnis personalisa da<br />
muSebis winaaRmdegoba mTeli erTi<br />
weli grZeldeboda. saboloo jam-<br />
Si, mepatroneebs TavianTi poziciis<br />
daTmoba mouwiaT. Tumca es xelisufleba<br />
winaaRmdegobas ase advilad<br />
ar hpatiobs, amitomac saqme-<br />
Si valeri kvaracxelias _ sergeenkos<br />
pirveli moadgilis gvari amotivtivda.<br />
Tanamdebobidan valeri kvaracxelias<br />
wasvlam, SesaZloa, problemebi<br />
Seuqmnas mis disSvils, walenjixis<br />
gamgebel beso farcvanias.<br />
meore disSvils _ beJan farcvanias,<br />
yofili kontrdazvervis ma-<br />
RalCinosans, usafuZvlod gauvrceles<br />
xmebi. arada, mas, faqtobrivad,<br />
aranairi Sexeba ar hqonia „fotografebis<br />
saqmesTan”. wina dReeb-<br />
Si swored amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
amotivtivda am ukanasknelis gvari,<br />
mxolod imitom, rom igi roman<br />
fifiasTan muSaobs da stadionis<br />
bazis usafrTxoebis ufrosia.<br />
rogor Caivlis megrul klan-<br />
Tan dapirispireba?! es klani Wkviania.<br />
valeri kvaracxelias gadadgoma<br />
piradi gancxadebis safuZvelze<br />
drouli iyo. winaaRmdeg<br />
SemTxvevaSi, mTeli misi garemocvis<br />
garSemo Crdlovani kambiti atydeboda.<br />
miT umetes, rom Crdilebis<br />
nakleboba aq namdvilad ar aris.<br />
Tumca es biznesis wesia _ im biznesis,<br />
romelic ivaniSvilisTvis kargad<br />
aris nacnobi.<br />
„qronika+”-Tan saubarSi valeri<br />
kvaracxeliam ganacxada, rom misi<br />
26<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
cio sazogadoebad. Jurnalistebma<br />
amis Sesaxeb postfaqtum Seityves.<br />
sawarmos 49%, plus „oqros<br />
aqcia” (vetos ufleba aqcionerTa<br />
saerTo gadawyvetilebaze, _ red.)<br />
darCa saxelmwifos. rogor gadanawilda<br />
danarCeni aqciebi, aiacko-<br />
ratom gadadga<br />
jandacvis<br />
ministris<br />
moadgile?<br />
gadadgoma beJan farcvanias sakiTxs<br />
ar ukavSirdeba. diax, is misi na-<br />
Tesavia da wlebia, ukve kerZo bizesSia.<br />
rac Seexeba mas, man gadadgomis<br />
Sesaxeb gadawyvetileba ori<br />
Tvis winaT miiRo da premierma<br />
roca daukmayofila, maSin wavida.<br />
fifiebis ojaxuri biznesi da<br />
ivaniSvilTan dakavSirebuli sak-<br />
iTxebi<br />
visa da fifias garda aravin icis”<br />
(„profili”, #13, 12.04.1999).<br />
Jurnalistebis garda „liqsaris”<br />
privatizebis sakiTxiT saratovis<br />
samarTaldamcvelebic dainteresdnen.<br />
erT-erTi aseTi gaxldaT<br />
olqis Sinagan saqmeTa sammarTvelos<br />
yofili ufrosi, mi-<br />
(nawili I)<br />
liciis general-leitenanti<br />
1996 wels saratovis olqis administraciis<br />
ufrosad dimitri<br />
aiackovi dainiSna. misi daniSvnisTanave<br />
roman (igive guladi) fifia<br />
adgilobrivi saliqiore-aryis<br />
gaerTianeba „liqsaris” generalur<br />
direqtorad dainiSna. erTi wliT<br />
adre, 1995 wels, imdroindelma<br />
popularulma Jurnalma „profilma”<br />
aRniSnuli daniSvna Semdegnairad<br />
Seafasa: „32 wlis mewarme roman<br />
fifia uSualod aiackovma daniSna.<br />
manamde fifia aravin iyo, ufro<br />
sworad, „saSualo xelis”, rigiTi<br />
mewarme. ratom mouvida TvalSi<br />
aiackovs fifia, kacma ar icis, magram<br />
amboben, rom maT, jer kidev,<br />
maSin hqondaT Sexeba, rodesac fifia<br />
mefrinvele iyo da saratovis<br />
mefrinveleobis sawarmoSi muSaobda.<br />
maSin gubernatori aiackovi<br />
sawarmos direqtoris moadgile<br />
iyo da mTel finansur dinebebs akontrolebda.<br />
iq gaicno swored<br />
fifia da amjeradac, gubernatorad<br />
daniSvnis Semdeg, iseT strategiul<br />
obieqts, rogoric liqioriaryis<br />
qarxana iyo, ucxos ver andobda.<br />
es xom „cocxali” fulis<br />
obieqtia. dRes fifias xSirad SexvdebiT<br />
aiackovis misaRebSi. ra molaparakebebi<br />
aqvT erTmaneTs Soris,<br />
mxolod gubernatoris uaxloesma<br />
pirebma ician” („profili”<br />
#13, 12.04.1999).<br />
1997 wlis Sua naxevarSi, fifias<br />
xelmZRvanelobiT, „liqsaris” modernizeba<br />
moxda, ris Sedegadac Cavardnili<br />
sawarmo kvlav fexze dadga.<br />
kerZod, daiwyo 37 sxvadasxva<br />
dasaxelebis alkoholuri sasmlis<br />
gamoSveba (14 maTgani safirmo). Sesabamisad,<br />
amuSavebul sawarmos<br />
meti Semosavali unda eCvenebina biujetSi.<br />
magram, am dros, kvlav xdeba<br />
sawarmos privatizeba, ris Sesaxebac<br />
Jurnali „profili” wers:<br />
„gasul wels (1998 w., _ red.)<br />
„liqsari” Cumad gadakeTda saaq-<br />
vladimir bulgakovi. man gamocema<br />
„bagoteas” interviuebis cikli<br />
misca, sadac igi „liqsaris” sakiTxsac<br />
ganixilavda. ase magaliTad:<br />
operatiul informaciaze dayrdnobiT,<br />
general bulgakovisTvis<br />
cnobili gaxda, rom „liqsaris”<br />
axal mepatroneTa Soris aris kompania<br />
„orbi”, romlis damfuZnebeli,<br />
roman fifiasTan erTad, aRmoCnda<br />
saratovis gubernator aiackovis<br />
umcrosi Zma. Sinagan saqme-<br />
Ta sammarTvelos mier gatarebuli<br />
mokvleviTi samuSaoebis Sedegad<br />
dadginda, rom saratovis olqis<br />
sagadasaxadoSi ori „liqsaria” aRricxvaze<br />
ayvanili. sayuradRebo is<br />
faqti iyo, rom orive „liqsari”<br />
erTi da igive dRes daregistrirda<br />
_ 1994 wlis 14 ivliss. anu erTi<br />
wliT adre, vidre saxelmwifo „liqsaris”<br />
aqcionerebis procesi daiwyeboda.<br />
rac mTavaria, orive „liqsaris”<br />
direqtori roman fifia<br />
gaxldaT.<br />
rogorc bulgakovi interviuSi<br />
yveboda, olqis miliciis sammarTveloSi<br />
ukve 1997 wlidan daiwyo<br />
cnobebis Semosvla „liqsaris” finansur<br />
darRvevebTan dakavSirebiT:<br />
„jer kidev Semodgomaze vicodiT,<br />
iq rac xdeboda. amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
werili movamzade da<br />
saratovis saolqo dumis xelmZRvanel<br />
aleqsandr xaritonovTan<br />
gavagzavne. iqidan pasuxi momivida,<br />
romlis mokle Sinaarsi iyo: „SeeSviT<br />
am saqmes”.<br />
1998 wlis 13 Tebervals gazeT<br />
„saratovis meriaSi” gamoqveynda<br />
statia, sadac saubari iyo afeTqebaze:<br />
„paraskevs, 13 ricxvSi, daaxloebiT,<br />
saRamos 10 saaTze, kutiakovis<br />
quCa 41/59 sadarbazos karTan<br />
moxda afeTqeba. afeTqda mowyobiloba,<br />
romelic distanciurad imarTeboda.<br />
afeTqebis Sedegad qalaqis<br />
saavadmyofoSi moxvda roin<br />
fifia gul-mkerdis, Tavis qalasa<br />
da zemo kidurebis mravaljeradi<br />
dazianebiT. 1968 wels dabadebuli<br />
roin fifia restoran „troikis”<br />
direqtori da saaqcio sazogadoeba<br />
„liqsaris” direqtoris, roman<br />
valeri kvaracxelia<br />
fifias Zma. afeTqebis Sedegad roin<br />
fifiasTan erTad mravlobiTi<br />
dazianeba miiRo Tengiz ozmanovma.<br />
diagnozi: Sublis Zvlis motexiloba,<br />
Tavis qalasa da saxis namsxvrevebiT<br />
miyenebuli Wrilobebi.<br />
1966 wels dabadebuli Tengiz ozmanovi<br />
cnobili „kanonieri qurdia”,<br />
metsaxelad „daTo” (gazeTi<br />
„saratovis meria”, #8 (252).<br />
ase da amrigad, sabolood dadasturda<br />
xmebi Zmeb fifiebisa da<br />
„kanonieri qurdebis” araformaluri<br />
urTierTobis Sesaxeb. gaze-<br />
TSi „saratovis meria” gamoqveynda,<br />
aseve, operatiuli gadaRebis foto,<br />
sadac „daTo kuvalda” da roin<br />
fifia erTad arian. suraTi 1996<br />
wlis noemberSia gadaRebuli, rodesac<br />
oriveni cnobili saratoveli<br />
„kanonieri qurdis”, SoTas dakrZalvidan<br />
Camofrindnen.<br />
afeTqebidan meore dRes kidev<br />
ufro sainteresod ganviTarda<br />
movlenebi. adgilobrivi televizia<br />
„saratovis” translirebisas<br />
moulodnelad Sewyda gadacema da<br />
gaognebuli mayureblis Tvalwin<br />
cisfer ekranze „liqsaris” generaluri<br />
direqtoris, roman fifias<br />
saxe wamoimarTa. fifia mTeli xuTi<br />
wuTi, kacma ar icis, vis emuqreboda.<br />
xsenebul telemimarTvaSi aryis<br />
magnati xmamaRla acxadebda,<br />
rom midis daSinebis yvela mcdeloba,<br />
igi ganwirulia, xolo damnaSaveebi<br />
aucileblad daisjebian.<br />
amis Semdeg gadacema, rogorc moulodnelad<br />
Sewyda, ise moulodnelad<br />
ganaxlda. imave dRes aRSfoTebulma<br />
saratovelebma televizia<br />
werilebiT aavses, _ es ra iyo,<br />
xom ar gagiJdiT?! saratovelebis<br />
nawili TavianT CarTvasac moiTxovdnen<br />
pirdapiri eTeriT, erTs mezobeli<br />
uCioda ukanonod gaWrili<br />
aivnis gamo, meores qmari yelis<br />
gamoWriT emuqreboda, mesame dakargul<br />
ZaRls eZebda... yvelas undoda<br />
fifiasaviT CarTva, moulodnelad!<br />
televiziis garSemo<br />
atexilma am xmaurma is faqti gadafara,<br />
rom afeTqebis adgilze miliciaze<br />
adre Tavad roman fifia<br />
da „kanonieri qurdebi” _ noe da<br />
balaSi mividnen. swored maT aRmouCines<br />
pirveladi daxmareba<br />
daWrilebs „saswrafos” mosvlamde.<br />
amis Sesaxeb Tavis interviuSi generali<br />
bulgakovma moyva.<br />
1998 wlis TebervalSi gazeT<br />
„saratovis meriaSi” gamoqveynebul<br />
statiaSi Jurnalistma mixeil<br />
sinelnikovma versia wamoayena, rom<br />
„liqsarSi” kriminaluri dajgufebebis<br />
interesebi iyo Cadebuli,<br />
rom „kanonieri qurdebi” sawarmo-<br />
Si seriozul finansur investiciebs<br />
axorcielebdnen, magram axali<br />
xelmZRvanelobis mosvlisTanave<br />
maT es interesebi ugulebelyves.<br />
roin fifiaze ganxorcielebuli<br />
teraqtis Semdeg saratovi SekveTili<br />
mkvlelobebis seriam moicva.<br />
magaliTad, 1998 wlis 17 marts<br />
saratovis me-2 klinikur saavadmyofoSi<br />
moaTavses cecxlsasroli<br />
iaraRiT daWrili adgilobrivi<br />
kriminaluri avtoriteti metsaxelad<br />
„fania”. meore dRes eqimis<br />
xalaTSi gadacmulma ucnobma mkvlelma<br />
fania palataSi Cacxrila;<br />
21 maiss saratovSi kidev erTi<br />
afeTqeba moxda, msxverpli aRmoCnda<br />
Cikunovskis dajgufebis araformaluri<br />
lideri, „kanonieri qurdi”<br />
guldabiani, misi dacva da svetlana<br />
pavlova (1995 wels mokluli<br />
igor Cikunovis megobari qali)<br />
(dRemde yvela teraqtis SemkveTi<br />
da Semsrulebeli napovni ar aris).<br />
1998 wlis 13 Tebervals roman<br />
fifias Zmaze _ roin fifiaze ganxorcielebulma<br />
teraqtma general<br />
bulgakovs Semdegi nabijebisken<br />
ubiZga. man „liqsarSi” operatiuli<br />
jgufi gaagzavna olqis sammarTvelos<br />
ufrosis, anatoli supruncis<br />
xelmZRvanelobiT. Catarda fifias<br />
sawarmos masStaburi Cxreka. amis<br />
Semdeg, rogorc generali bulgakovi<br />
Tavis interviuSi yveba, saratovis<br />
gubernatorma igi TavisTan<br />
daibara da uTxra: „Sen wiTeli zoli<br />
gadakveTe. amis Semdeg samsaxurs<br />
ver iSovi ara marto saratov-<br />
Si, aramed mTlianad krasnoiarskis<br />
olqSi”. 1998 wlis 23 Tebervals<br />
saratovis gubernatorma bulgakovis<br />
moxsnis rekomendaciiT Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa ministrs mimarTa. saratovSi<br />
ministrma komisia gamoagzavna,<br />
saqme Seiswavla da generali<br />
bulgakovi Tanamdebobaze datoves.<br />
amis Semdeg saratovis gubernatorma<br />
aiackovma gadawyvita, es<br />
saqme elcinis doneze moegvarebina.<br />
man elcinis qaliSvils, tatiana<br />
diaCenkos mimarTa, romelTanac<br />
erTad did britaneTSi isvenebda.<br />
ase gaCerda „liqsaris” Semowmebis<br />
saqme.<br />
fifias saratovSi problemebi<br />
mas Semdeg Seeqmna, rac gubernatori<br />
aiackovi Tanamdebobidan<br />
gaaTavisufles. amis Semdeg Jurnalisturi<br />
gamoZiebis centrma,<br />
saratovSi moqmedma sainformacio<br />
saSualebebma da saratovis olqis<br />
sami gazeTis redaqtorebma weriliT<br />
mimarTes ruseTis generalur<br />
prokuror iuri Caikas. isini<br />
moiTxovdnen maT mier mokvleuli<br />
masalebis Seswavlas, sadac mTeli<br />
rigi maqinaciebi iyo CamoTvlili.<br />
amis Semdeg roman fifiaze prokuraturaSi<br />
sisxlis samarTlebrivi<br />
devna aRiZra da igi sacxovreblad<br />
safrangeTSi gadavida.<br />
maleve igi saqarTveloSi Camodis.<br />
fifias Zma _ roland fifia,<br />
saqarTvelos parlamentis wevrad<br />
airCies. rusuli mediis cnobiT,<br />
fifia saakaSvilisgan afxazeTis<br />
virtualuri prezidentis posts<br />
eloda.<br />
„russki bazaris” informaciiT,<br />
ruseTidan saqarTveloSi kapitalis<br />
gadmotanaSi fifias marjvena<br />
xeli andrei fedorovi iyo. es ukanaskneli<br />
ucxoeli investorebis<br />
delegaciaSi Sedioda, romelic<br />
2006 wels saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
bankis prezidentma miiRo.<br />
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ul sakiTxTa komisiam „saqarTvelos demografiuli sazogadoe-<br />
ba XXI”-is sakanonmdeblo winadadeba ganixila, romelic sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciebis akrZalvis sakiTxs exeba. saqarTve-<br />
los parlaments sakanonmdeblo winandadebiT „saqarTvelos<br />
demografiuli sazogadoeba XXI”-is xelmZRvanelma, zviad tomaraZem<br />
mimarTa. am sakiTxze komitetis farglebSi samuSao Sex-<br />
vedra gaimarTa da deputatebma iniciatorisa da komitetis<br />
aparatis TanamSromlebis mosazrebebi moismines.<br />
„sazogadoebriv gaerTianeba-<br />
Ta saqmianobis SeCerebisa da<br />
maTi akrZalvis Sesaxeb” momzadebuli<br />
kanonproeqtis Tanaxmad,<br />
„sasamarTlos, saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis moTxovnis safu-<br />
Zvelze, aseve SeuZlia akrZalos<br />
is sazogadoebrivi gaerTianeba,<br />
romelic ucxoeTis saxelmwifodan,<br />
ucxouri samewarmeo an<br />
gazrda advokatebi”:<br />
_ parlamentSi wardgenil<br />
sakanonmdeblo winadadebas ar<br />
vicnob, magram misi ZiriTadi<br />
principebidan gamomdinare mimaCnia,<br />
rom parlamentma aRniSnuli<br />
winadadeba ar unda gaiziaros.<br />
aRniSnuli winadadebis<br />
miRebis SemTxvevaSi pirdapir<br />
dgas qveynis demokratiuli ga-<br />
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nebismieri dainteresebuli mxare<br />
uflebamosilia, mimarTos<br />
sasamarTlos, moiTxovos aRniSnuli<br />
sazogadoebrivi organizaciis<br />
SezRudva, SeCereba da<br />
ganaxorcielos samarTlebrivi<br />
brZola mxolod sasamarTlos<br />
gziT. warmoudgenelia, donori<br />
organizaciebis mxridan samoqalaqo<br />
organizaciebis dafinansebis<br />
sistema avkrZaloT, am<br />
logikiT maSin unda aikrZalos<br />
saqarTvelos mTavrobis mxridan<br />
sesxis aRebis kanoniT dadgenili<br />
procedurebi, aseve unda<br />
aikrZalos mTavrobis, saministroebis<br />
mxridan gamocxadebuli<br />
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romlisTvisac Tanxa erovnuli<br />
doebrivi organizaciebi, romlebic<br />
sruliad gaumWvirvaled<br />
iReben dafinansebas ruseTidan,<br />
maT Soris, ruseTisa saxelmwifo<br />
fondebidan da es aris<br />
saxelmwifo, romelic arRvevs<br />
saqarTvelos teritoriul<br />
mTlianobas, samxedro okupaciis<br />
gziT aqvs okupirebuli saqarTvelos<br />
ori didi regioni da<br />
es okupacia grZeldeba mcocavi<br />
da sxva meTodebiT, gadmodian<br />
Cvens teritoriaze, itaceben<br />
adamianebs da saerTaSoriso arenaze<br />
xdeba am okupirebuli teritoriebis<br />
damoukidebel qveynebad<br />
aRiareba. am pirobebSi<br />
namdvilad antisaxelmwifoebrivia,<br />
rodesac sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciebi saqarTvelo-<br />
gaiyidos, an ar gaiyidos, saqar-<br />
Tvelos moqalaqeebi iyvnen Tu<br />
ara maTTan SedarebiT privilegirebul<br />
mdgomareobaSi, amaze<br />
diskusiebi grZeldeba da sxvadasxva<br />
qveyanaSi sakiTxi sxvadasxvanairad<br />
aris daregulirebuli.<br />
sakonstitucio sasamar-<br />
Tlomac daadatura, rom is Canaweri<br />
namdvilad badebda eWvebs<br />
da am SemTxvevaSi problema ra<br />
aris? _ Tu sakonstitucio sasamarTlo<br />
adasturebs, rom namdvilad<br />
iyo problema da gauqmda<br />
kanonSi es Canaweri, am SemTxvevaSi<br />
sakonstitucio sasamar-<br />
Tlo antisaxelmwifoebrivad<br />
moiqca? maSin ase davsvam sakiTxs.<br />
es iniciativa namdvilad<br />
hgavs kudianebze nadirobas da,<br />
ratom iTxoven<br />
sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciebis<br />
akrZalvas?!<br />
arasamewarmeo organizaciidan,<br />
an ucxoeli moqalaqisgan miRebuli<br />
grantis farglebSi axorcielebs<br />
grantis gamcemis interesebs<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo<br />
interesebis winaaRmdeg”.<br />
zviad tomaraZis ganmartebiT,<br />
kanonproeqtis SemuSavebis<br />
mizezi saqarTveloSi moqmedi<br />
zogierTi arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />
saqmianobaa: „xSir Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi, ucxoeTidan dafinansebuli<br />
arasamTavrobo organizaciebi<br />
gamoxataven damfinansebelTa<br />
interesebs, upirispirdebian<br />
saxelmwifo interesebs,<br />
konservatiul sazogadoebas,<br />
tradiciebs da tradiciuli<br />
ojaxis instituts”, _ aRni-<br />
Sna tomaraZem.<br />
cnobisTvis: moqmedi kanoniT,<br />
sasamarTlos SeuZlia akr-<br />
Zalos sazogadoebrivi gaerTianeba,<br />
romlis mizania saqarTvelos<br />
konstituciuri wyobilebis<br />
damxoba, an ZaladobiT Secvla,<br />
qveynis damoukideblobis<br />
xelyofa, teritoriuli mTlianobis<br />
darRveva, an romelic<br />
eweva omis, an Zaladobis propagandas,<br />
aRvivebs erovnul,<br />
kuTxur, religiur an socialur<br />
SuRls, qmnis an Seqmnili<br />
aqvs SeiaraRebuli formireba,<br />
an sasamarTlos mier misi saqmianobis<br />
SeCerebis Semdeg ganaaxlebs<br />
aRniSnul saqmianobas.<br />
rogor afaseben „saqarTvelos<br />
demografiuli sazoga-<br />
doeba XXI”-is sakanonmdeblo<br />
iniciativas arasamTavrobo<br />
organizaciebi?<br />
„qronika+” sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciebis warmomadgen-<br />
lebs esaubra.<br />
arCil kaikaciSvili _ „axal-<br />
nviTarebis safuZvlebi safrTxeSi.<br />
es winadadeba safrTxes<br />
uqmnis samoqalaqo seqtoris<br />
ganviTarebas imgvarad, rom samoqalaqo<br />
jgufebs SesaZlebloba<br />
hqondeT ganaxorcielon proeqtebi,<br />
inicitivebi, maTi damoukidebeli<br />
saqmianoba. sakiTxis<br />
erTi mxarea, ramdenad<br />
eTanxmeba sazogadoebis umravlesoba<br />
Tu umciresoba, xelisuflebis<br />
romelime Sto, romelime<br />
samoqalaqo organizaciis<br />
sxvadasxva formiT aqtiurobas,<br />
magram sakanonmdeblo doneze<br />
SeizRudos maTi muSaoba da am<br />
SezRudvis safuZveli gaxdes<br />
ucxoeTis romelime fondidan,<br />
moqalaqidan Tu samTavrobo<br />
xazidan miRebuli dafinanseba,<br />
ar mgonia swori daskvnebis gakeTebis<br />
safuZvlad. aseTi kanoni<br />
arc erT qveyanaSi ar moqmedebs,<br />
Tumca ruseTis magaliTze<br />
SegviZlia vTqvaT is garemoeba,<br />
rom mTavrobam akrZala sorosis<br />
fondis saqmianoba, magram am<br />
TvalsazrisiT ver aviRebT magaliTs<br />
imasTan mimarTebiT,<br />
rom es demokratiuli gadawyvetilebaa.<br />
mocemul SemTxvevaSi<br />
sakanonmdeblo winadadeba Tavad<br />
samoqalaqo sazogadoebis<br />
jgufebs Soris mniSvnelovan<br />
protests gamoiwvevs, Tu romeli<br />
arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />
saqmianobaa miuRebelia sazogadoebis<br />
umravlesobisTvis,<br />
xelisuflebis romelime Stos-<br />
Tvis, an zogadad, es saqmianoba<br />
SeiZleba Sefasdes erovnuli<br />
interesebis sawinaaRmdegod, es<br />
aris mxolod Sefasebis sakiTxi.<br />
Tuki arasamTavrobo organizacia,<br />
romelsac aqvs Tavisi wesdeba<br />
da moqmedebs samoqalaqo<br />
kanonmdeblobis safuZvelze da<br />
daarRvevs am wesdebisa da kano-<br />
N17 (194) 16.05-22.05.2017 w.<br />
biujetidan gaiReba, am TvalsazrisiT,<br />
mTavrobis mier dafinansebuli<br />
samoqalaqo organizacia<br />
bevri jgufisTvis Sei-<br />
Zleba iyos erovnuli interesebis<br />
saziano. aq WeSmaritebas verasdros<br />
movZebniT, es iniciativa<br />
amitomac mgonia mkvdrad-<br />
Sobili, misi ganxorcielebis<br />
araviTari samarTlebrivi safuZvlebi<br />
ar arsebobs, samoqalaqo<br />
organizaciebis dafinanseba<br />
rogorc erovnul doneze,<br />
aseve saerTaSoriso donori<br />
organizaciebis mxridan aris<br />
TviTregulirebadi procesi, is<br />
aris saproeqto formaSi warmodgenili.<br />
romelime sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciis saqmianoba<br />
CvenTvis misaRebia Tu miuRebeli,<br />
es aris Sefasebis kategoria<br />
da ara sanqciis gamoyenebis<br />
kategoria, miT umetes,<br />
am procesis sakanonmdeblo doneze<br />
daregulireba, romelic<br />
absoluturad warmoudgenelia,<br />
radganac Tuki romelime organizaciis<br />
mimarT moqalaqeTa<br />
romelime jgufs pretenzia<br />
aqvs, sasamarTlo aris is dawesebuleba,<br />
sadac yvelas Seu-<br />
Zlia, sadavo gaxados romelime<br />
gadawyvetileba, Sesabamisad,<br />
gaakritikos aRniSnuli saqmianoba<br />
sajaro sivrceSi. es procesi<br />
maqsimalurad demokratiulia,<br />
vidre is, rom ucxouri<br />
donori organizaciebis mxridan<br />
sazogadoebriv jgufebs<br />
avukrZaloT dafinanseba.<br />
aleko cqitiSvili _ „adami-<br />
anis uflebaTa centri”:<br />
_ zogadad, ra aris saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
interesebi, erovnuli<br />
interesebi, samwuxarod, saqarTveloSi<br />
adamianebs sxvadasxvanairad<br />
esmiT. arian sazoga-<br />
Si iReben uSualod ruseTis<br />
saxelmwifo fondebidan dafinansebas.<br />
„adamianis uflebaTa<br />
centrma”moamzada kidec kanonproeqti,<br />
sadac Cven moviTxovT,<br />
rom saxelmwifos mxridan aikr-<br />
Zalos ruseTis saxelmwifo fondebis<br />
interesebis gatareba.<br />
rac Seexeba dasavlur fondebs<br />
_ es aris Cveni megobari qveynebi,<br />
ZiriTadad, aSS-s saxelmwifo<br />
fondi USAD, aSS-s saer-<br />
TaSoriso ganviTarebis saagento,<br />
romelic ukve 20 welze metia,<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovan proeqtebs<br />
axorcielebs, iqneba es<br />
saxelmwifo instituciebis ganviTarebis<br />
mimarTulebiT,<br />
Tu adamianis uflebebis dacvis<br />
mimarTulebiT ganxorcielebuli<br />
proeqtebi, sadac amerikis<br />
saxelmwifo am Tanxebs gascems<br />
da es aris sruliad gamWvirvale,<br />
Tanxebis gaxarjvis Sesaxeb<br />
informacia naCvenebia rogorc<br />
amerikis saxelmwifo fondis<br />
vebgverdze, aseve im organizaciebis<br />
vebgverdebze. viRac Tu<br />
brmaa, yrua da ar esmis es sakiTxi,<br />
es sxva sakiTxia, nebimier<br />
dros naxavT informacias, sad<br />
ixarjeba es Tanxebi, ra saqmianobaSic<br />
ixarjeba, namdvilad<br />
ar aris sarasaxelmwifoebrivi<br />
mimarTulebiT. rac Seexeba konkretulad<br />
sakonstitucio sarCels,<br />
romelic „saerTaSoriso<br />
gamWvirvaloba _ saqarTvelom”<br />
moamzada da sakanonmdeblo<br />
iniciativis avtori amaze<br />
akeTebs aqcents, es sarCeli SeiZleba<br />
bevrisTvis sakamaTo iyo<br />
sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT, Tumca<br />
sakiTxi iyo dasmuli diskriminaciuli<br />
kuTxiT, rom ucxoeli<br />
adamiani ar unda iyos diskriminirebul<br />
mdgomareobaSi,<br />
magram is, rom ucxoelebze miwa<br />
ZiriTadad, exeba dasavluri<br />
finansebis Semotanas saqarTveloSi<br />
da am TanxebiT sazogadoebrivi<br />
organizaciebis sargeblobas,<br />
riTac Zalian bevri<br />
ram keTdeba. is, rom ruseTidan<br />
namdvilad imarTeba gaurkveveli<br />
organizaciebi da maTi gacxadebuli<br />
miznebi aris ruseTTan<br />
SeerTeba, maT vebgverdebze ar<br />
Cans, Tu saidan miiRes dafinanseba.<br />
es seriozuli problemaa.<br />
giorgi mSvenieraZe _ „saqarTvelos<br />
demokratiuli ini-<br />
ciativa”:<br />
_ es aris Zalian araseriozuli<br />
winadadebaa. rogorc kanonmdebloba<br />
gulisxmobs, is mxolod<br />
formalurad gaivlis sakomiteto<br />
mosmenas da es winadadeba<br />
ver iqceva sakanonmdeblo<br />
iniciativad, radgan demokratiul<br />
saxelmwifoSi msgavsi<br />
akrZalvebi ar arsebobs. zogadad,<br />
baton tomaraZes miaCnia,<br />
rom bednieri iqneba icxovros<br />
qveyanaSi, sadac akrZalvebi iqneba.<br />
Cven, moqalaqeebs, Tavisufal<br />
qveyanaSi gvinda cxovreba,<br />
sadac adamianebis uflebebia<br />
daculi, arasamTavrobo organizaciebi<br />
sakuTari miznebidan<br />
gamomdinare moqmedeben, im miznebidan,<br />
romelic baton tomaraZes<br />
da mis amfsonebs aRizianebT,<br />
qveynis demokratiuli<br />
mSeneblobisTvis arian mowadinebulni.<br />
batoni tomaraZisa<br />
da misi amfsonebis mizani am<br />
Rirebulebebis winaaRmdeg<br />
brZolaa da ara im safrTxeebis<br />
mimarT, romelic garedan modis,<br />
Cveni mTavari safrTxe aris<br />
is, romelic Tavad krZalavs<br />
sityvis Tavisuflebas, samoqalaqo<br />
seqtoris arsebobas da es<br />
aris ruseTi.<br />
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qveyanaSi Seqmnil politikur,<br />
sazogadoebriv viTarebaze „qronika+”-s<br />
esaubreba poeti, romanis-<br />
ti daviT defi:<br />
_ Zalian xSirad, rodesac ve-<br />
jaxebiT sabWoTa mentalitets,<br />
monur fsiqologias, vambobT, rom<br />
gamosavali Taobebis Secvlaa, rom<br />
gveSveleba mxolod maSin, rode-<br />
sac amqveynad aRar iqnebian wina,<br />
sabWoTa droSi aRzrdili Taobe-<br />
bi da wamova axali, Tavisufal<br />
saqar<br />
arTveloSi dabadebuli Taobe-<br />
bi. es imedic ocnebaTa rigs xom<br />
ar genekuTvneba? Cven Zalian bevr<br />
axalgazrdas vxedavT, romelsac<br />
mZaRe, sabWoTa mentaliteti aqvs<br />
da monurad, prorusulad azrovnebs<br />
da vicnobT Zalian bevr xni-<br />
er adamians, romelic sabWoTa<br />
wyobaSi daibada, magram sruliad<br />
Tavisufalia im sabWoTa mentali-<br />
tetisgan da sruliad saRad azr-<br />
ovnebs. Tqvenc fiqrobT, rom drois<br />
gasvla da Taobebis cvla uS-<br />
velis am process?<br />
_ Taoba aranairad araa konkretuli<br />
cneba, metaforuli cnebaa,<br />
dakanonebuli gertruda stainis<br />
mier, rodesac folkners, selinjers,<br />
hemingueis uTxra: „Tqven<br />
dakarguli Taoba xarT”. Taoba meqanikurad,<br />
asakobrivi niSniT aer-<br />
Tianebs adamianebs, arc konkretuli<br />
cnebaa da da arc idealizmTan<br />
aqvs rame kavSiri. yvela Taobas<br />
aqvs Tavisi didebuleba da Tavisi<br />
sacodaoba, Tavisi rwmena, Tavisi<br />
urwunoeba. metaforulad rom SevxedoT,<br />
Taoba CemTvis gangebis Ti-<br />
To CasunTqva da TiTo amosunTqvaa.<br />
gangebis sicocxlis niSania es<br />
CasunTqva-amosunTqva, Taobebis<br />
cvalebadoba... yvela TaobaSia<br />
Rirseulic da uRirsic. yvelaferi<br />
damokidebulia imaze, ras ir-<br />
Cevs esa Tu is adamiani. adamiani biologiuri<br />
kategoriaa _ yvela<br />
adamiani adamiania, vinc ki cisqve-<br />
SeTSi dadis, magram mis pirovnebad<br />
yofnas misi arCevani gansazRvravs.<br />
bevr adamianSi ar cocxlobs pirovneba,<br />
adamiani klavs Tavis pirovnebas<br />
arCevanisa da mrwamsis uqonlobis<br />
gamo. is ki, vinc pirovnebad<br />
Sedgeba, Tavisi arCevaniT, Tavisi<br />
mrwamsiT, idealizmiT, mTel Tavis<br />
Taobas kars uxsnis da momavalSi<br />
amogzaurebs. rodesac axali Taobis<br />
warmomadgenlebi warmoudgenel,<br />
miuRebel saSinelebebs qadageben<br />
politikur scenaze, guli<br />
mwydeba maTze, isini ukve mkvdrebi<br />
arian, rogorc pirovnebebi. ubralod,<br />
Tavisi pirovnebis panaSvidebi<br />
Rrma sibereSi gadaitanes. egaa<br />
da eg. isini gamofituli arian,<br />
saerTod ar gaaCniaT is mrwamsi,<br />
romelsac me vatareb. maTi da Cemi<br />
mrwamsi radikalurad gansxvavdeba<br />
erTmaneTisgan. es imas ar niSnavs,<br />
rom me sxva Taobas vekuTvni,<br />
ara, _ Cemamde Taobebic am mrwamss<br />
atarebdnen da Semdegi Taobebic<br />
aseTive mrwamsis matarebelni iqnebian.<br />
isini ki, vinc am axal Taoba-<br />
Si socialistur ideebs arian ayolili,<br />
ra Tqma unda, sruliad<br />
sxva samyaroSi cxovroben, sxva six-<br />
Sireze azrovneben.<br />
_ socialisturi ideebis ayolas<br />
kidev ra uWirs, mTavari ubedureba<br />
monobis survilia, ruse-<br />
Tis monobis survili _ mtris ve-<br />
rcnoba, mtris verdanaxva mterSi.<br />
_ eg aris maTi arCevani. eg pirebi,<br />
romelTac kargad uwyian da<br />
acnobiereben, rac xdeba dRevandel<br />
msoflioSi da mainc dadian<br />
mTel saqarTveloSi da ewevian<br />
rusul propagandas, arian sawamlavebi,<br />
toqsikuri Sxamis matareblebi.<br />
dadian da „dastaevskiT” Rupaven<br />
miamit gulebs, miamit sulebs,<br />
romlebsac sruli warmodgena<br />
ar aqvT dRevandel samyaroze.<br />
swored eg „dastaevskia” mTeli<br />
reziume am rusuli koSmarisa.<br />
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revaz SatakiSvili<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
„dastaevskia” maTTvis avtoriteti,<br />
CemTvis es araa avtoriteti,<br />
CemTvis es aris mteri, mteri araa<br />
avtoriteti, es unda gaigos yvelam<br />
erTxel da samudamod. mteri aris<br />
mteri, mters hqvia mteri, mteri<br />
gebrZvis, rom Sen ar arsebobde,<br />
rom Sen gaxde rusuli kulturis,<br />
rusuli Semecnebis, rusuli imperializmis<br />
matarebeli upirovnebo<br />
adamiani _ Sovinisti, rogoricaa<br />
TviTon. rusuli imperializmis<br />
mTavari ganmsazRvreli Zalac da<br />
emociac Sovinizmia. rusuli imperializmi<br />
qadagebs mxolod Sovinizms,<br />
dedamiwaze unda arsebobdes<br />
mxolod ruseTis imperia da meti<br />
araferi sxva. yvelaferi danarCeni<br />
aris maT sazRvrebs miRma da<br />
ruseTs sazRvrebi ar gaaCnia... Tvi-<br />
Tonve amboben kidec, rom maTi<br />
mTavari mizani samSoblos gafar-<br />
Toebaa _ „rasSirenie rodini”.<br />
dRes internetiT yvelaferi xelmisawvdomia<br />
da visac unda, odnavi<br />
warmodgena hqondes, rogor muSaobda<br />
stalini, derJinski, rogor<br />
daiwyo am sistemis Camoyalibeba,<br />
vurCev waikiTxos viqtor suvorovis<br />
wigni. es sistema araa maTi mogonili,<br />
Zalian Zveli sistemaa da<br />
iyenebdnen sxva imperialisti qveynebi,<br />
oRond im qveynebma gadalaxes<br />
es xibli, ganTavisufldnen,<br />
demokratiulebi gaxdnen.<br />
_ daix, britaneTma, espaneTma,<br />
safrangeTma daTmes Tavisi kol-<br />
oniebi, rogorc ki mixvdnen, rom<br />
maT ganviTarebas xels uSlida is,<br />
ramac, Tavis droze, xeli Seuwyo<br />
maT aRzevebas, maT daTmes kolo-<br />
niebi.<br />
_ diax, yvelam, vinc ki kolonizatori<br />
iyo, daTmo koloniebi. aq<br />
erTi aspeqticaa _ rodesac britaneTi<br />
hong-kongidan gamovida, iq<br />
ayvavebuli ekonomika datova.<br />
ruseTi? arsaidan gadis. sadac Sedis,<br />
iq Seaqvs sisxli, gapartaxeba,<br />
xocva-Jleta, aTasi sibinZure,<br />
boroteba, znedacemuloba, sruli<br />
katastrofa, genocidi, eTnocidi<br />
da yvelanairi cidi, rac arsebobs.<br />
rusuli propagandis msxverpli<br />
rom ar gaxdes ama Tu im Taobis<br />
warmomadgeneli, pirvel rigSi,<br />
unda iyos Camoyalibebuli mrwamsis<br />
adamiani da idealisti. diax,<br />
marto ganaTleba ar kmara, bevri<br />
minaxavs ganaTlebuli, magram Tavisi<br />
arCevaniT da mrwamsiT ubin-<br />
Zuresi pirovnebebi brZandedbian,<br />
ubinZures saqmeebs rom sCadian da<br />
Sekruli arian eSmakTan. eSmakSi<br />
vgulisxmob kremls da mis iluziebs.<br />
swored „kagebesTan” aqvT kav-<br />
Sirebi, isini TanamSromlobdnen<br />
„kagebesTan”. axlac maTi biZuri<br />
imperialisturi ideebis masobrivi<br />
eqspansia midis, raTa mteri moyvrad<br />
SeifuTos, moyvare _ mtrad,<br />
cudi gasaRdes kargad, keTilSobileba<br />
mogvaCvenon znedacemulobad<br />
da a. S.<br />
_ monoba SeiniRbos patri-<br />
otizmad...<br />
_ diax da am eqos mihyveba gaucnobierebeli<br />
adamiani, mihyveba da<br />
es eqo mas Seityuebs labirinTSi,<br />
saidanac gamosavali ar arsebobs.<br />
adamiani daiZireba, Tu Tavis daZirvas<br />
ver acnobierebs. amoyvinTavs<br />
mxolod maSin, Tu gaacnobierebs,<br />
rom iZireba. Taobebis cvla ki ar<br />
gviSvelis, Cven, qveyana, amovyvin-<br />
TavT maSin, rodesac yvela gaacnobierebs,<br />
rom iluziebiT damZimebulebi<br />
male fskers Tavs davartyamT.<br />
tvirTi, simZime, romelic<br />
gvZiravs, iluziebia.<br />
_ iqneb, qarTvels unda mo-<br />
Sivdes, rom magas mixvdes da<br />
gamofxizldes?<br />
_ ara, es gza ar gadis kuWze,<br />
arc inteleqtze da romc iyos<br />
damokidebuli SimSilze, mxolod<br />
nawils Sia da es sxvisi SimSili rogor<br />
gamoafxizlebs danarCen maZ-<br />
daviT defi:<br />
`mrCeba<br />
STabeWdileba,<br />
rom ivaniSvils<br />
ar aqvs da arc<br />
arasodes hqonia<br />
es miliardebi!~<br />
Rar sazogadoebas? romel SimSilze<br />
vlaparakobT, saqarTveloSi<br />
rom restornebi muSaobs, amdeni<br />
restorani msoflioSi arsad muSaobs!<br />
miT umetes, samuSao saaTeb-<br />
Si! gamoricxulia Tqven naxoT<br />
sadme, arasakurorto zonaSi, dedaqalaqSi<br />
amdeni restorani muSaobdes<br />
samuSao saaTebSi, Tu is msoflio<br />
megapolisi araa. araadekvaturad<br />
bevri restorania. am sazogadoebas<br />
ar gaaCnia erTi gasaWiri,<br />
radgan saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi<br />
ar warmoadgenen erTi tipis sazogadoebas,<br />
aq ramdenime sazogadoebaa.<br />
aq arian Tavisufali saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqeebi, romelTac<br />
me Tavs mivakuTvneb da arian araTavisufali<br />
saqarTvelos, iluzia-<br />
Si myofi saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi,<br />
romelTac Tavs ar mivakuTvneb.<br />
metic, me maT vemijnebi! isini Tavisuflebis<br />
mtrebi arian, swored<br />
aseTebi mouZRodnen yovelTvis<br />
mters am qveyanaSi, swored aseTebi<br />
uxsnian kars mters, kars uxsnian<br />
Cvens gulebSi, Cvens cnobierebaSi<br />
da axla frontis xazma gadmoinacvla<br />
sworedac Cvens cnobiereba-<br />
Si!<br />
diax, qarTuli sazogadoeba araa<br />
erTi tipis sazogadoeba da<br />
rodesac Cveni ramdenime sazogadoeba<br />
gaerTiandeba, rodesac Cveni<br />
yvela socialuri fena bolomde<br />
daiZireba da iluziebis fskers<br />
Subls daartyams, maSin daiwyebs<br />
yvela erTad gamofxizlebas da<br />
amoyvinTvas. ra Tqma unda, sazogadoebis<br />
progresuli nawili<br />
xels Cahkidebs iluziebSi myof im<br />
adamianebs, romlebic qveyanas<br />
fskerisken mieqaCebian da erTad<br />
amoyvinTaven. mere es progresuli<br />
nawili xelisuflebis saTaveSi<br />
mova. minda, visurvo, es Zala is<br />
partia iyos, romelsac me<br />
yovelTvis vuWerdi da vuWer mxars<br />
_ „erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba”. magram winaa mTeli ambebi<br />
da ase martivad ar xdeba, amas<br />
brZola sWirdeba, Sroma, adamian-<br />
Ta darwmuneba, politikosebma adamianebs<br />
imedi unda miscen.<br />
simarTles rom Tvali gavusworoT,<br />
qarTuli sazogadoeba arasodes<br />
yofila erTgvarovani, amitom<br />
rodesac vambobT, Cven ra eri<br />
varT, Cven movkaliT ilia, zviadi,<br />
ara, batono, qarTvel ers arasodes<br />
mouklavs ilia WavWavaZe, ara<br />
batono, me ar momiklavs zviad gamsaxurdia,<br />
me vicavdi zviad gamsaxurdias,<br />
me viyavi zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
momxre da var kidec, me vicavdi<br />
mixeil saakaSvils, me ar gamigdia<br />
is qveynidan. vici, sikeTe, saboloo<br />
jamSi, mainc imarjvebs da Tu<br />
ar imarjvebs, e. i., is araa sikeTe.<br />
_ iliac, zviadic mokles na-<br />
Ziralebma da Semdeg vireSmaku-<br />
lad SefuTes mag doqtrinaSi:<br />
„Cven movkaliT ilia, Cven davamx-<br />
eT zviadi” da mTel saqarTvelos<br />
aaRebines pasuxismgebloba Tavis<br />
namoqmedarze. ase yovelTvis momgebiania<br />
garewrebisTvis _ Tvi-<br />
Ton Caidenen danaSauls da mere<br />
yvelas unawileben pasuxismgeblobas.<br />
yvelas, Tan STamomavlo-<br />
biT! arc me momiklavs ilia, arc<br />
Cems winaprebs, arc saqarTvelos.<br />
ilia mokles garewrebma, zviadi<br />
daamxes garewrebma, axla saakaSvili<br />
gandevnes, uTvlidnen pi-<br />
jakebs da paltos da Semdeg saaka-<br />
Svilzec ase ityvian: „Cven movine-<br />
leT saakaSvili”. gviklaven ilias<br />
da mere am binZuri doqtriniT da-<br />
zaralebuls jalaTad gvaqceven.<br />
me arc ilias mkvleli var da arc<br />
miSas pijakebis buRalteri.<br />
_ zustia, zustia. da amis garda,<br />
Tavs gvaxveven, Tqven ra eri<br />
xarT, mokaliT ilia, devneT zviadi,<br />
ara batono, me arc demna<br />
ufliswuli momiklavs, arc zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia, arc ilia WavWavaZe,<br />
arc galaktionisTvis mikravs xeli<br />
zurgSi, rom „leCkombinatidan”<br />
gadmomxtariyo da arc paolo iaSvilisTvis<br />
gadamitenia iaraRi, rom<br />
Tavi moekla, Cven ar mogviklavs<br />
ilia, is mokles konkretulma adamianebma,<br />
konkretuli adamianebis<br />
davalebiT, konkretuli adamianebis<br />
surviliT da konkretuli adamianebis<br />
SesrulebiT. egre araa _<br />
erma mokla. es epoqam gaakeTa. rodesac<br />
epoqas marTaven naZiralebi<br />
da pativmoyvareebi, maSin ewireba<br />
galaktionic, vaJac, iliac, zviadic,<br />
miSac da yvela _ mec da Tqvenc,<br />
magram saqarTvelo ufro didi<br />
cnebaa, vidre, zogadad, erTi konkretuli<br />
epoqa, saqarTvelos swored<br />
is pirovnebebi qmnian, romlebic<br />
Taobebs miuZRvian win. varskvlavebi<br />
qmnian saqarTvelos da anaTeben.<br />
rogorc ukve vTqviT, Taoba<br />
ufro metaforuli cnebaa, „Taobebi”<br />
Teatraluri gancdaa ufro,<br />
qarTvels zogadad uyvars kudabzikuri<br />
scenuroba, keklucoba<br />
da sityvakazmuloba, Torem, realurad,<br />
azrobrivad swori mdgomareoba<br />
misTvis, iluziaSi myofi saqarTvelos<br />
moqalaqisTvis, SeiZleba<br />
gamagiJebelic ki iyos. rodesac<br />
simarTle yvelanair iluzias Tavze<br />
daalewavs, yvela iluzia rom<br />
gauqreba, giJdeba, simarTle aRar<br />
moswons.<br />
_ axseneT, mters uSveben Cvens<br />
cnobierebaSio. es, ra Tqma unda,<br />
asea, magram mxolod cnobiereba-<br />
Si ki ara, qveyanaSic kargad uSveben,<br />
or fexze mosiarule mtreb-<br />
sac uSveben, es dadasturda „mg-<br />
lebzec”, viTom ar vuSvebTo da<br />
mere rom aq aRmoCndnen. an ras<br />
verCiT am mglis lekvebs, saqarT-<br />
veloSi luJkovi SemouSves, saqarTvelos<br />
mteri, romelic sepa-<br />
ratistul reJimebs afinansebs.<br />
_ mixeil saakaSvilis prezidentobis<br />
dros yvelam erTad xelixelCakidebulebma<br />
qveyana Waobidan<br />
amoviyvaneT da avaSeneT saxelmwifod.<br />
dRes swored saakaSvili idevneba<br />
_ putinis pirveli mteri da<br />
am devnis fonze, sabWoTa kavSiris<br />
didi moRvawis, moskovis yofili<br />
meris, iuri luJkovis absoluturad<br />
uproblemod Semoyvana da gaSveba<br />
dausjelad niSnavs erTaderT<br />
rames _ saqme exeba missa da ivaniSvilis<br />
raRac komunistur-mafiozur<br />
„biznes”-maqinaciebs. STabeWdileba<br />
mrCeba, rom mas aq Tavisi kapitali<br />
aqvs. SeiZleba, es bevrisTvis<br />
cnobilicaa da es iyo mizezi am vizitis.<br />
rac Seexeba „Ramis mglebs”,<br />
es aris „efesbes” dafinansebuli<br />
autaneli, marazmatikuli, maniakuri<br />
motorbola. mglebis keTil-<br />
SobilebasTan maT kavSiri ar aqvT,<br />
daZrwian iq, sadac gasdiT. praRa-<br />
Si Cexebi agineben, poloneTSi saer-<br />
Tod arc uSveben, CvenTan SemoesvlebaT,<br />
patriarqsac Sexvdnen... uke-<br />
TiaT es e. w. georgievskis lentebi,<br />
romelsac aranairi kavSiri ar<br />
aqvs wminda giorgisTan. vinc ar icis,<br />
ra aris, am interviuSi rom dro<br />
ar vkargoT, arsebobs gugli,<br />
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daguglon da aRmoaCenen, rom es<br />
lenti Tavisi fesvebiT nacistur<br />
germaniasTan ufro axlo kavSir-<br />
Sia, vidre wminda giorgisTan.<br />
_ mxolod biznes-„cexavikur”<br />
interesebTan rom gvqondes saqme,<br />
ra uWirda... „ocnebis” xelisuflebas<br />
yvelaferi iqiTken mi-<br />
hyavs, rom saqarTvelo araTu<br />
Zlieri, saerTod normaluri saxelmwifo<br />
aRar iyos da fexsawmen-<br />
di CvariviT vefinoT imperiis misadgomebTan.<br />
ra fenomenia ivaniS-<br />
vili? am SemTxvevaSi gekiTxebiT,<br />
rogorc mwerals. ra tipis per-<br />
sonaJia igi?<br />
_ CemTvis, rogorc mwerlisTvis,<br />
igi sainteresoc araa, radgan<br />
misi Tvisebebi arCevans ar gamoxatavs.<br />
adamiani sianteresoa maSin,<br />
Tu is raRacas TviTon irCevs, mona<br />
ar aris CemTvis saintereso, mona<br />
yvela erTnairia. erT niadagze amodis<br />
sarevelac da vazic da Tavad<br />
adamianzea, ras airCevs _ sarevelad<br />
yofnas, Tu vazad yofnas,<br />
ifiqlad Tu RvarZlad? mTeli mi-<br />
Tologia, yvela religia, yvela<br />
Sinagani kodeqsi, rasac Tavisufali<br />
adamiani atarebs, am gzebsa da<br />
am arCevanzea agebuli. Tavidan Can-<br />
`fuli, romelsac is sworedac rom angarebiT xarjavs -<br />
axarjavs garkveul pirebs, magram ar axarjavs momaval<br />
Taobebs, is ar xsnis universitetebs, skolebs. is afinansebs<br />
konkretul pirebs da ara maT namuSevrebs. magaliTad, is<br />
wignebis gamocemas, speqtaklebis dadgmas, filmebis<br />
gadaRebas ki ar afinansebda, aramed xelfass uniSnavs<br />
romeliRac mwerals, msaxiobs, mTeli am fulis xarjva iyo<br />
winaswar gamiznuli gegma. rodesac ivaniSvili<br />
xelisuflebaSi mosvlisas darwmunebiT ambobda, rom is<br />
movidoda xelisuflebaSi, gaxdeboda premier-ministri da<br />
erTi wlis Tavze wavidoda da garedan marTavda procesebs<br />
da es asec moxda, niSnavs imas, rom mas es gegma micemuli<br />
hqonda. ara mgonia, rom iseTi Semecnebis pirovnebas,<br />
rogoric ivaniSvilia, TviTon moefiqrebina es gegma... es<br />
gegma mas misces! es aris kremlSi, kerZod, lubiankaze<br />
Sedgenili gegma, romelic `gazpromis~ mewiles misces...<br />
yvela es gza ruseTis prezident putinTan midis.<br />
ivaniSvili Zveli kadria, Cadebuli naRmi, romelmac<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeTa tvinebis, maTi sindisis mosyidva<br />
daiwyo, garkveuli nawilis, cxadia~<br />
da, rom ivaniSvilma raRac Tavisi<br />
gza airCia da Segnebulad, nabijnabij<br />
miuyveboda mas, magram axla<br />
yvela xedavs _ mas araferic aurCevia<br />
_ is iq dasves. dasva kremlma.<br />
misi e. w. sikeTe angarebaa da<br />
Tavidan bolomde siyalbe. aseT<br />
rames Rirseuli adamiani, pirovneba,<br />
sazogadoeba unda ganeridos,<br />
rogorc yovelgvar siaves da mankierebas.<br />
me ase vuyureb mis e. w.<br />
gzas. Tavad miiCnevs, rom swor gzas<br />
adgas da mSvenivrad cxovrobs, magram<br />
rodesac misi da Cemi, Cemi<br />
qveynis momavali ikveTeba, aq ukve<br />
mas uCndeba problema da ara me, imitom,<br />
rom me Tavs davdeb Cemi da<br />
Cemi Svilebis momavlisTvis, is<br />
Tavs dadebs Tavisi kapitalisTvis.<br />
Cemi kapitalia momavali Taobebis<br />
ganaTlebuloba, Cemi dawerili<br />
wignebi da maT gulebSi arsebobaa<br />
da am gziT momavali Taobebis<br />
mkiTxvelis ganaRdebaa, momavalSi<br />
cxovrebaa samudamod, fizikuri<br />
sicocxlis miRma, misi kapitali ki<br />
mxolod fulia da sxva araferi.<br />
fuli, romelsac is sworedac rom<br />
angarebiT xarjavs _ axarjavs<br />
garkveul pirebs, magram ar axarjavs<br />
momaval Taobebs, is ar xsnis<br />
universitetebs, skolebs. is afinansebs<br />
konkretul pirebs da ara<br />
maT namuSevrebs. magaliTad, is<br />
wignebis gamocemas, speqtaklebis<br />
dadgmas, filmebis gadaRebas ki ar<br />
afinansebda, aramed xelfass uniSnavs<br />
romeliRac mwerals, msaxiobs,<br />
mTeli am fulis xarjva iyo winaswar<br />
gamiznuli gegma. rodesac ivaniSvili<br />
xelisuflebaSi mosvlisas<br />
darwmunebiT ambobda, rom is<br />
movidoda xelisuflebaSi, gaxdeboda<br />
premier-ministri da erTi<br />
wlis Tavze wavidoda da garedan<br />
marTavda procesebs da es asec<br />
moxda, niSnavs imas, rom mas es gegma<br />
micemuli hqonda. ara mgonia,<br />
rom iseTi Semecnebis pirovnebas,<br />
rogoric ivaniSvilia, TviTon moefiqrebina<br />
es gegma... es gegma mas<br />
misces! es aris kremlSi, kerZod,<br />
lubiankaze Sedgenili gegma, romelic<br />
„gazpromis” mewiles misces...<br />
yvela es gza ruseTis prezident<br />
putinTan midis. ivaniSvili Zveli<br />
kadria, Cadebuli naRmi, romelmac<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeTa tvinebis,<br />
maTi sindisis mosyidva daiwyo,<br />
garkveuli nawilis, cxadia. me ar<br />
var misi mosyiduli, magram bevri<br />
Cemi kolega aris, maTda samarcxvinod.<br />
magram es maTi arCevania...<br />
moisyida da Semdeg daiwyo am xalxis<br />
gamoyeneba, gamoyeneba TavisTvis<br />
da kremlisTvis sasargeblod, magram<br />
Cemi da Cemi Svilebis momavlisTvis<br />
mtrulad. ivaniSvili did<br />
SarSia gaxveuli, is daejaxa saqarTvelos<br />
Tavisuflebis momavals<br />
da saqarTvelos Tavisuflebis momavali<br />
mas adgilze dasjis.<br />
_ eg yvelaferi gasagebia, magram<br />
mag gegmaSi ranairad ewereba<br />
ivaniSvilis egzotikuri gamoxtomebi?<br />
ra SuaSia am xeebis Treva<br />
iqiT-aqeT? ras sZens mag gen-<br />
eralur gegmas? yvelaferTan er-<br />
Tad, me mgoni, saqme gvaqvs egzo-<br />
tikur personaJTan.<br />
_ amxela kapitalis mflobeli<br />
ivaniSvili imis nacvlad, rom did<br />
saqmeebs akeTebdes saqarTveloSic<br />
da mTel msoflioSic, afinansebdes<br />
kosmosur proeqtebs, didi<br />
momavlis mSeneblobebs, warmoebebs,<br />
teqnologiebs, nanoteqnologiebs,<br />
biologias, neiroqirurgias,<br />
xsnides skolebs, qmnides fondebs,<br />
sazRvargareT uSvebdes axalgazrdebs,<br />
saqarTveloSi Camohyavdes<br />
didebuli adamianebi, TviTonac<br />
dadiodes, xvdebodes did pirovnebebs<br />
mTel msoflioSi, apiarebdes<br />
saqarTvelos, rukaze dabejiTebiT<br />
beWdavdes saqarTvelos saxels da<br />
amaSi xarjavdes tonobiT fuls,<br />
amis magivrad is ras akeTebs? dgas<br />
da daaTrevs am xeebs, zis da iqeqeba<br />
raRac sibinZureebSi da mere es<br />
sibinZure gamodis gareT videokadrebad,<br />
satelefono saubrebad.<br />
mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom ivaniSvils<br />
ar aqvs da arc arasodes hqonia<br />
es miliardebi! es fuli mas arc<br />
ekuTvnis. mrCeba STabeWdileba,<br />
rom mas misces ufleba, xarjos<br />
garkveuli dividendebi im didi Se-<br />
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mosavlidan, romelic ekuTvnis<br />
putins, „gazproms”, ruseTis did,<br />
samTavrobo mafias. ar icis, sad<br />
waiRos es fuli da amitomac iqceva<br />
ase, aSenebs sakoncerto darbazs<br />
da Semdeg saxelmwifos stenis<br />
Sesanaxad, daaTrevs am xeebs, radgan<br />
STaagones, rom didxans icocxlebs,<br />
Tu am oraswlovan xeebs garkveuli<br />
konfiguraciiT dargavs da<br />
SuaSi dadgeba... es niSnavs mxolod<br />
erT rames _ misi Semecneba aris<br />
ganviTarebis Zalian dabal safexurze<br />
da es kremlma kargad icis,<br />
amitomac SeirCa sworedac is.<br />
_ Tavis droze, Cingiz yaensac<br />
surda didxans sicocxle, es sur-<br />
vili gaando kidec budist bers,<br />
romelmac aRzevebul Cingizs Sehbeda<br />
da uTxra, rom es SeuZle-<br />
belia, rom ar arsebobs aranairi<br />
saSualeba sicocxlis ase gaxangr-<br />
Zlivebis. es xdeboda Soreul me-<br />
13 saukuneSi da dRes, 21-e sauku-<br />
neSi, rogor ver aRmoCnda ivaniSvilis<br />
sixloves Tundac erTi sa-<br />
Rad moazrovne adamiani, romel-<br />
ic etyoda, rom es SeuZlebelia,<br />
rom xeebi ver axangrZlivebs cx-<br />
ovrebas? ramdeni milioneria<br />
dedamiwaze? ver gadargavdnen ase<br />
xeebs, Tuki es maT sicocxles<br />
gaaxangrZlivebda? aqamde ver<br />
moafiqrdeboda vinmes?<br />
_ Cingiz yaeni Segnebuli adamiani<br />
iyo da didi msoflio politikuri<br />
figuraa dRemde, is pativs<br />
scemda codnas, mamacobas, ivaniSvili<br />
ki, martivad rom vTqva, Seugnebeli<br />
adamiania. misTvis avtoriteti<br />
aris mxolod TviTon, Tavisi<br />
iluziebi da is monuri ganwyoba,<br />
rac mas kremlTan akavSirebs.<br />
mtverisgan aRdga Cingiz yaeni da<br />
daipyro, rac ki icoda dedamiwaze.<br />
is dampyrobeli iyo, misi genetika,<br />
deenemi iyo aseTi. rogorc mwerali<br />
ivaniSvilis maniakur primitiobas<br />
ver ganvsji, imdenad carielia,<br />
mas gansjis sasamarTlo kanonis<br />
darRvevebis gamo.<br />
_ TqviT, rom ivaniSvils arc<br />
aqvs da arc arasodes hqonia did-<br />
Zali fuli. fuli rogor ar aqvs?<br />
gindaT TqvaT, rom mas moskovis-<br />
gan aqvs SezRuduli fuli, raSi<br />
xarjos?<br />
_ ki, imitom, rom misi fuli ar<br />
aris. ra biznesiT iSova man es<br />
fuli? ra viciT mis Sesaxeb? viciT,<br />
ra xdeboda bneliT mocul 90-<br />
ian wlebSi gangsterul da mafiozur<br />
moskovSi, sadac viRacebs<br />
klavdnen, viRacebs aqrobdnen?<br />
trampi magnatia da vinaa ivaniSvili?<br />
magnatia? ara, is oligarqia.<br />
oligarqi wminda rusuli movlenaa,<br />
oligarqi niSnavs mdidar<br />
adamians, vinc daaxloebulia xelisuflebasTan<br />
da gavlena aqvs<br />
politikaze. ra gziT da ratom<br />
Cauvarda ivaniSvils amxela fuli?<br />
misces imitom, rom kremlma icoda,<br />
adre Tu gvian, dasWirdeboda<br />
erovnuli mTavrobis dasamxobad.<br />
asea, Tu zviad gamsaxurdia da mixeil<br />
saakaSvilia xelisuflebaSi, is<br />
unda daemxos, imitom rom orive<br />
erovnuli xelisuflebaa, Tu aris<br />
SevardnaZe da dRevandeli xelisufleba,<br />
maSin yvelaferi wesrigSia.<br />
arc gamosvlebia quCebSi, arc wiTeli<br />
inteligencia gamodis da protests<br />
acxadebs, rom diqtatoria<br />
SevardnaZe, an margvelaSvili, an<br />
Tavad ivaniSvili. ara, yvelaferi<br />
rigzea, yvela Cumadaa, yvela kmayofilia.<br />
mere ra, rom zogi mSieria?<br />
mere ra, rom xeebi iWreba da<br />
bevr students swavlis fuli ar<br />
aqvs?.. geubnebian, ase cxovrobs<br />
amerikac, ase cxovrobs dasavleTic,<br />
xom gindodaT dasavleTi, ase-<br />
Ti cxovrebaa iq. swored esaa bneli,<br />
mdabio azrovneba. ase ar cxovrobs<br />
dasavleTi. ase aravin cxovrobs<br />
ruseTis garda.<br />
_ rodesac Tvals adevnebT<br />
dRevandel politikur speqtrs,<br />
biZina ivaniSvili<br />
mimdinare movlenebs, ra reaqcia<br />
gaqvT, rogorc moqalaqes? Tun-<br />
dac, rodesac xedavT, rogor<br />
izrdeba kriminali, rogor Canagdeba<br />
ekonomika, rogor xdeba institutebis<br />
CamoSla da ganad-<br />
gureba?<br />
_ rogori ganwyoba unda mqondes,<br />
rodesac swored isini, romlebic<br />
„biWebi Cagvixoces” gauTaveblad<br />
ambobdnen, dRes xmas araferze<br />
iReben, arc imaze, magaliTad, 26<br />
wlis biWs manqanaSi rom cxrilaven;<br />
an rodesac amdeni kriminali gamovida<br />
gareT politpatimris statusiT?<br />
ris imedze unda igrZno<br />
Tavi adamianma daculad? policiis<br />
imedze, met-naklebad, Tu iqnebi,<br />
ukve mRvrie qvedinebebi Cans,<br />
sus-is gadamkide ukve saswaulebi<br />
xdeba Cvens qveyanaSi. rCebi saku-<br />
Tari Tavis imedad da es Zalian<br />
Znelia, rodesac gyavs coli, Svilebi,<br />
ojaxi da am yvelafers dacva<br />
sWirdeba. ase didxans ver gastans.<br />
yvelaferi, rasac aqvs dasawyisi,<br />
aqvs dasasruli. „ocnebis” xana daiwyo<br />
tyuiliT _ 2012 wels ivaniSvili<br />
xelisuflebaSi movida tyuiliT<br />
_ e. w. kadrebiT, 8 Tvis bavSvis<br />
daxrCobiT qvevrSi da Semdeg<br />
Ria braldebiT, manana berikaSvilma<br />
rom Ria eTerSi daado xeli RviniaSvils<br />
da Tavis megobar re-<br />
Jisorebs, msaxiobebs rom mouwoda<br />
quCaSi gamosasvlelad. ai, es tyuiliT<br />
dawyebuli xana aucileblad<br />
damTavrdeba simarTliT. isini<br />
movidnen tyuiliT, magram wavlen<br />
simarTliT. diax dasawyiss aqvs<br />
dasasruli. es mutanturi mdgomareobaa,<br />
cnobierebac mutanturia,<br />
es mutaciaa, mutacias kidev<br />
ar aqvs genetikuri mravalferovnebis<br />
unari, is ar vrceldeba,<br />
mutanti ver aCens Tavisnair mutants,<br />
is mutirebs mxolod erT<br />
SemTxvevaSi da morCa, amitom dasruldeba<br />
es mutanturi faza. male<br />
saerTod msoflioSi dasruldeba<br />
memarcxeneobis es uazrod gawelili<br />
faza. ukve yvela niSania amis,<br />
arCevnebSi sxva Zalebi modian ukve,<br />
aqtiuri da ara modunebuli Zalebi,<br />
koniunqtura icvleba _ damlaSebuli<br />
da ruseTs kargad<br />
morgebuli koniunqtura mTavrdeba<br />
ukve, sabWoTa nomenklaturac,<br />
adre Tu gvian, damTavrdeba da amoisunTqavs<br />
mTeli kacobrioba. amitom<br />
es faza nel-nela gadava, gadadis<br />
kidec da masve gadahyveba ivaniSvilis<br />
fazac, romelic kreml-<br />
Sia Sedgenili da am didi gegmis<br />
nawilia. gegmis nawili aucileblad<br />
dasruldeba, radgan dasawyisi<br />
aqvs, xolo yvelafer sxvas ar<br />
aqvs arc dasawyisi, arc dasasruli.<br />
esaa Tavisufleba. me ar da ver<br />
ganvsji ivaniSvils, misi gonebrivi<br />
sixSire aseTia, is monaa am Tavisi<br />
iluziebis, monobaSi daibada,<br />
monobaSi cxovrobs da monobaSive<br />
gaagrZelebs cxovrebas. monobaSi<br />
acxovrebs mTel Tavis garemocvas.<br />
maT ar ician, ra aris realuri cxovreba,<br />
ra aris brZola, ra aris<br />
grZnobebi, raRacnairi sicarielea<br />
maT irgvliv da maTSi TviTon. es<br />
dasruldeba. zviad gamsaxurdias,<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis periodebi ki,<br />
sadac progresi progresirebda da<br />
ara _ regresirebda, dasawyisisa da<br />
dasasrulis miRmaa, is sul aris,<br />
saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs es gancda<br />
sul aqvT da eqnebaT. ase iyo<br />
mudam, amiT movida saqarTvelo,<br />
danarCeni yvelaferi aris agebuli<br />
Ralatze, farisevlobaze, angarebaze,<br />
znedacemulobaze.<br />
_ uaxloes periodSi aris rame<br />
gamosavali? rogor fiqrobT, gam-<br />
ova xalxi quCaSi?<br />
_ xalxis quCaSi gamosvla da<br />
didi saxalxo mRelvarebis dawyeba<br />
apriori ar niSnavs gamarjvebas,<br />
mTavaria, mizani ra aqvs am mRelvarebas,<br />
ra ideebi amoZravebT adamianebs,<br />
saiT midis es yvelaferi?<br />
rac dro gadis, yvela xedavs, ukve<br />
mTeli msoflio xedavs, rom saqarTvelo<br />
cocxali organizmia, es<br />
araa mkvdari qveyana. ki, axla dapauzebulia<br />
yvelaferi, araferi<br />
xdeba am qveyanaSi, magram imdenadaa<br />
dagubebuli energia, Sida eneria,<br />
rom male is gadaiqceva sinergiad<br />
_ Sedgeba RvTisa da adamianis energiebis<br />
didi kavSiri, RmerTisa<br />
da adamianis zraxvebi erTmaneTs<br />
daemTxveva, erT nakadSi moeqceva,<br />
iqceva sinergiad, rasac veraferi<br />
aCerebs, veraferi. saqarTvelo unikaluri<br />
qveyanaa, fenomenuri qveyanaa,<br />
saqarTvelom zustad icis,<br />
rodis ra unda moxdes, rodis unda<br />
gavides da rodis ar unda gavides<br />
quCaSi, rodis unda moiTminos, daisvenos,<br />
Zalebi aRidginos da rodis<br />
miayenos gamanadgurebeli<br />
dartyma mowinaaRmdeges. rodis<br />
daTmos da rodis gadavides Setevaze,<br />
rodis Seaklas Tavi... amitom<br />
yvelafers Tavisi dro aqvs, es<br />
aris moqceva-miqceva. ivaniSvils<br />
Zalian unda, rom zRva gaaCeros,<br />
aaSenos jebirebi, Semdeg am zRvaze<br />
gza gaiyvanos da xe aTrios, mere<br />
fexebzec kidia, ra mouva im gzas,<br />
jebirebs, barJas, magram bunebasa<br />
da stiqias Tavisi kanonebi aqvs,<br />
saqarTvelo da qarTveli eri aris<br />
rogorc stiqia _ stiqia, romelsac<br />
verc ivaniSvili da verc veravin<br />
verasodes daimorCilebs.<br />
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varsebobT minimalurad, anu<br />
rTuli gamosacnobi araa, Tu ras<br />
nino tabaRua<br />
unda exebodes sakiTxi, rodesac<br />
morigi kvleva qveyndeba da misi<br />
Tema qveyanaSi mcxovrebi mosaxleobis saarsebo minimumia. es uka-<br />
naskneli, Tavis mxriv, Semosavlis minimalur dones wamoadgens,<br />
romelic adamianis arsebobisa da misi aucilebeli moTxovnebis<br />
dakmayofilebis uzrunvelsayofadaa saWiro. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom<br />
igi cxovrebis dabali, yvelaze qveda zRvris maCvenebelia.<br />
1. fuladi saxsrebis minimumi,<br />
romelic aucilebelia adamianis<br />
qmedunarianobis SenarCunebisTvis.<br />
igi gamoxatavs sazogadoebrivad<br />
aucilebeli cxovrebis donis qveda<br />
zRvars. misi gaangariSebis me-<br />
Todika efuZneba minimaluri samomxmareblo<br />
biujetis Seqmnas,<br />
romelic saSualo sididis ojaxis,<br />
an erTi momuSavis Semosavlebisa<br />
da gasavlebis balanss warmoadgens;<br />
2. erT mosaxleze samomxmareblo<br />
saqonlis RirebulebiTi<br />
gamoxatuleba, romelic qveynis<br />
socialur-ekonomikuri ganviTarebis<br />
donis Sesabamisad uzrunvelyofs<br />
adamianis minimaluri fiziologiuri<br />
da socialuri moTxovnilebebis<br />
dakmayofilebas (saqar-<br />
Tvelos kanoni „saarsebo minimumis<br />
gaangariSebis wesis Sesaxeb”);<br />
3. saqarTvelos aRmasrulebeli<br />
xelisuflebis mier saarsebo minimumis<br />
odenobis gansazRvramde Tanamdebobis<br />
pirTa qonebrivi mdgomareobisa<br />
da safinanso deklaraciebis<br />
Sevsebis miznisTvis saarsebo<br />
minimumi ganisazRvreba asi lariT<br />
(saqarTvelos kanoni „sajaro<br />
samsaxurSi interesTa SeuTavseblobisa<br />
da korufciis Sesaxeb”,<br />
muxli 21).<br />
swored asea ganmartebuli<br />
samoqalaqo ganaTlebis leqsikon-<br />
Si is saarsebo minimumi, razedac<br />
dRes ase aqtiurad vsaubrobT.<br />
saqarTvelos kanoni saarsebo<br />
minimumis gaangariSebis wesis Sesaxeb<br />
ambobs, rom saarsebo minimumi<br />
aris saqarTvelos moqalaqeTa socialuri<br />
dacvisa da socialuri<br />
garantiebis safuZveli da mimarTulia<br />
mosaxleobis naklebaduzrunvelyofili<br />
nawilis mxardasaWerad.<br />
saarsebo minimumi safuZvlad<br />
vaxtang Waraia<br />
edeba saxelmwifos mier miznobrivi<br />
socialuri politikis gatarebas.<br />
amave kanonis mixedviT, saarsebo<br />
minimumi aris erT sul mosaxleze<br />
samomxmareblo saqonlis RirebulebiTi<br />
gamoxatuleba, romelic<br />
qveynis socialur-ekonomikuri<br />
ganviTarebis donis Sesabamisad<br />
uzrunvelyofs adamianis minimaluri<br />
fiziologiuri da socialuri<br />
moTxovnilebebis dakmayofilebas.<br />
mis gamoangariSebis wess rac<br />
Seexeba, mas safuZvlad udevs Sromisunariani<br />
mamakacis sasursaTo<br />
kalaTa da igi gaiangariSeba normatiul-<br />
statistikuri meTodis<br />
safuZvelze, mimdinare (Sesyidvis)<br />
saSualo fasebis mixedviT. normatiuli<br />
meTodis gamoyenebiT formirdeba<br />
sasursaTo kalaTa, romelic<br />
iTvaliswinebs kvebis produqtebis<br />
moxmarebis minimalur normebs,<br />
xolo statistikuri meTodiT<br />
ganisazRvreba danaxarjebi arasasursaTo<br />
saqonelsa da momsaxurebaze,<br />
romelic iTvaliswinebs moxmarebis<br />
faqtobriv dones.<br />
sasursaTo kalaTis normebsa da<br />
normativebs ki saqarTvelos Sromis,<br />
janmrTelobisa da socialuri<br />
dacvis saministro adgens.<br />
zogadad, saarsebo minimumis da-<br />
Tvla minimaluri sasursaTo kala-<br />
Tis safuZvelze xdeba da Sromisunariani<br />
mamakacis saarsebo minimumis<br />
Rirebulebis gaangariSebis me-<br />
TodiT, xsenebuli sasursaTo kalaTa<br />
moicavs Sromisunariani mamakacis<br />
normaluri sicocxlisa da<br />
SromisunarianobisTvis fiziologiurad<br />
aucilebeli sakvebis raodenobas,<br />
misi Semadgeneli elementebisa<br />
da kaloriulobis minimalur<br />
odenobas. es yvelaferi ki<br />
40 dasaxelebis produqts moicavs<br />
da erTad 2300 kilo kalorias gva-<br />
Zlevs.<br />
mimdinare wlis kvlevis bolo<br />
monacemis mixedviT, Sromisunariani<br />
mamakacis minimumi martSi 169,7<br />
lars Seadgenda, rac wina wlis<br />
analogiur maCvenebelTan SedarebiT<br />
8,1 lariT metia.<br />
amave monacemebis mixedviT,<br />
erTsuliani ojaxis saarsebo minimumi<br />
150,3 laria;<br />
orsuliani ojaxisTvis _ 240, 5<br />
lari;<br />
samsulianisTvis _ 270,6 lari;<br />
oTxsulianisTvis _ 300,7 lari;<br />
xuTsulianisTvis _ 338,3 lari;<br />
eqvssulianisa da metisTvis _<br />
`yvelaze didi<br />
sifrTxiliT TviTon<br />
samomxmareblo kalaTa<br />
unda SevadginoT, radgan<br />
qveyanaSi milionamde<br />
socialurad daucveli,<br />
180 larze mcxovrebi 800<br />
000 pensioneri gvyavs,<br />
aseve, 300 da 400-larian<br />
xelfasze momuSave<br />
ramdeni aTasi adamiani. e.<br />
i. maTTvis umTavresi<br />
sazrunavi aris swored is<br />
samomxmareblo kalaTa,<br />
romelic maTi<br />
arsebobisTvis minimums<br />
warmoadgens, amitom<br />
mTeli rigi faqtorebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
sifrTxiliT unda SeirCes<br />
da dabalansdes kalaTis<br />
wilebi~<br />
399,9 lari.<br />
statistikis erovnuli samsaxuri<br />
amave gamoqveynebul dokumentSi<br />
gvamcnobs:<br />
„2004 wlidan saqstati saarsebo<br />
minimumis maCveneblebs angariSobs<br />
im minimaluri sasursaTo kalaTis<br />
mixedviT, romelic gansazRvrulia<br />
da dadgenilia „sakveb nivTierebebsa<br />
da energiaze organizmis fiziologiuri<br />
moTxovnilebebisa da<br />
saarsebo minimumis gansazRvrisa-<br />
Tvis saWiro sasursaTo kalaTis<br />
Semadgenlobis normebisa da normativebis<br />
damtkicebis Sesaxeb” saqrTvelos<br />
Sromis, janmrTelobisa<br />
da socialuri dacvis ministris<br />
2003 wlis 8 maisis #111/n brZanebis<br />
Sesabamisad. 2004 wlamde saqstati<br />
saarsebo minimumis<br />
maCveneblebis gaangariSebas<br />
axorcielebda<br />
sxva minimaluri sasursaTo<br />
kalaTis safuZvelze.<br />
aRniSnuli<br />
meTodologiuri cvlilebiT<br />
aixsneba 2004<br />
wlamde da 2004 wlis<br />
Semdgomi periodisTvis<br />
gaangariSebul monacemebs<br />
Soris sxvaoba”.<br />
gvaxsovs, rom saarsebo<br />
minimumis odenoba<br />
warsulSic qceula cxare<br />
kamaTis sagnad. asea<br />
axlac, radgan bevri fiqrobs,<br />
rom es maCvenebeli<br />
realobas ver asaxavs.<br />
zogierTi eqspertis<br />
azriT, arasworad<br />
aris daTvlili kaloriebis<br />
raodenobac _<br />
2300 kilokaloria, radgan<br />
evrokavSiris qveynebSi<br />
kilokaloraJi<br />
2700-ze naklebi ar aris.<br />
Tanac, sagulisxmoa<br />
is faqtic, rasac Tavad<br />
statistikis erovnuli<br />
samsaxuri gvamcnobs,<br />
rom saarsebo minimumi saqarTveloSi<br />
dgindeba 2003 wlis brZanebiT<br />
dadgenili meTodologiiT, romelic<br />
specialistebs moZvelebulad<br />
miaCniaT. saqarTvelos mTavroba-<br />
Sic aRiareben, rom saarsebo minimumze<br />
muSaoba xangrZlivi procesi<br />
aRmoCnda.<br />
akaki comaia _ ekonomikis eqs-<br />
perti:<br />
_ saarsebo minimumi politikuri<br />
sazomia ufro metad, vidre<br />
raime iseTi, rac informacias gva-<br />
Zlevs arsebul realobaze.<br />
saarsebo minimumis daTvla SesaZlebelia<br />
Zalian bevri meTodiT,<br />
igi iTvleba kaloriebis mixedviT,<br />
Sesabamisad, is SeiZleba dagrovdes<br />
ara mxolod kaloriebis, aramed<br />
mineralebis mixedviT, romelic<br />
saangariSo periodebs Soris arsebobisTvisaa<br />
saWiro. realurad, cxadia,<br />
rom is SeiZleba sxvadasxvanairi<br />
meTodiT daiTvalos, gamomdinare<br />
iqidan, Tu ra produqtebs<br />
miviCnevT mocemulobad, romelmac<br />
es kaloriebi unda Camoayalibos,<br />
amitom SegviZlia Sromisunarian<br />
mamakaczec da sxva erTeulzec,<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, miviRoT 500,<br />
169 da 800 laric.<br />
bevr qveyanaSi iTvleba saarsebo<br />
minimumi, Tumca Cemi SexedulebiT<br />
igi arc erT qveyanaSi ar<br />
aCvenebs realobas, is mainc imis<br />
motiviT iTvleba, rom rac SeiZleba<br />
dabali iyos, raTa Semdgom imis<br />
salaparako hqondeT, rom pensia,<br />
minimaluri xelfasi, is rac socialur<br />
seqtorSia, Seesabameba<br />
saarsebo minimumis pirobebs.<br />
saarsebo minimumis arsebuli<br />
praqtika ar gvaZlevs iseT ekonomikur<br />
maCvenebels, romelzedac<br />
raime daskvnebis gamotana SeiZleba.<br />
metic, misgan, umetesad, mcdari<br />
daskvnebi gamogvaqvs xolme, vidre<br />
realuri.<br />
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gariSeba, magram es iyo 90-ian wleb-<br />
Si, roca mosaxleoba rTul mdgomareobaSi<br />
gaxldaT da sawvavi, magaliTad,<br />
qilebiT iyideboda da<br />
Semosavlis didi nawili sursaTis<br />
SesaZenad midioda. maSin gamarTleba<br />
hqonda, rom es proporcia<br />
yofiliyo 70% sursaTze da danarCeni<br />
30%-sxva danarCenze, magram<br />
amis Semdeg sursaTis wili inflaciis<br />
dasaangariSebel kalaTa-<br />
Si, TandaTanobiT, Semcirda da davida<br />
30-ze odnav met maCvenebelze,<br />
romelic ar scdeba 31%-s, xolo<br />
saarsebo minimumis gasaangariSebel<br />
kalaTSi isev igive darCa, ubralod,<br />
xan erT saqonels Casvamen<br />
da amoiReben da xan meores. magaliTad,<br />
gasul wlebSi iyo SemTxveva,<br />
roca jonjoli samjer amoiRes kalaTidan<br />
da isev Casves, erT weliwads<br />
amohqondaT kalaTidan, meore<br />
wels svamdnen, xan „borjomi” amoi-<br />
Res, xan gitara amoiRes da a. S. imisda<br />
mixedviT, rogoria IV-VII jgufebis<br />
xarjebis struqtura.<br />
saqme is aris, rom dRevandeli<br />
xarjebis mixedviT, meTodika ukve<br />
warmoadgens anaqronizms da is arsebiTad<br />
unda Seicvalos!<br />
sxvaTa Soris, roca „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” xelisuflebaSi modioda,<br />
acxadebda, rom es meTodika gadaisinjeboda,<br />
rac mere aRar ganaxorcieles.<br />
nebismier xelisuflebas<br />
urCevnia Tqvas, rom siRaribis<br />
deklarireba aris 22% da ara 44%,<br />
es mis karg muSaobaze metyvelebs<br />
da naklebi kritika iqneba, magram<br />
arsebobs obieqturi realoba,<br />
sjobia, simarTles Tvali gavusworiT<br />
da vTqvaT, ramdenia Cveni fasebis,<br />
saerTo donis, samomxmareblo<br />
da rigi sxva aspeqtebis gaTvaliswinebiT<br />
saarsebo minimumi.<br />
vfiqrob, rom axlandeli maCvenera<br />
cota gvyofnis sicocxlisTvis<br />
soso arCvaZe<br />
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`ganviTarebul sazogadoebaSi<br />
mosaxleobas meti momsaxureba<br />
sWirdeba minimalur doneze<br />
Tavis moTxovnebis<br />
dasakmayofileblad, magram<br />
Cven ise ar CamovrCebiT<br />
amerikas Cveni<br />
moTxovnilebebiT, tradiciebiT,<br />
kulturiTa da zogadi<br />
inteleqtis doniT, rom CvenTan<br />
saarsebo minimumi, maTTan<br />
SedarebiT, daaxloebiT, 7-jer<br />
ufro dabali iyos. amitom am<br />
logikiTac eqvemdebareba<br />
gadasinjvas es meTodologia. am<br />
xnis ganmavlobaSi konstitucia<br />
ukve mesamed icvleba da ra<br />
moxda, rom am meTodikis<br />
Secvlas saSveli ar daadga?!~<br />
soso arCvaZe _ ekonomikis<br />
eqsperti:<br />
_ es meTodika damtkicebulia<br />
2003 wels da warmoadgens normatiul<br />
statistikur meTods, rac<br />
niSnavs imas, rom statistikurad<br />
iTvleba mosaxleobis mTeli raodeoba<br />
da Semdeg is, Tu rogoria<br />
Sida jgufebis moxmareba, Sida jgufebSi<br />
ki igulisxmeba me-4-dan me-<br />
7-s CaTvliT jgufebi, naklebSemosavlianidan<br />
maRalSemosavlianisken.<br />
iTvleba maT mier produqciis<br />
saSualo fasebiT SeZena, romelTa<br />
gamoTvlis Semdegac konkretuli<br />
saqonlis saSualo fass ityvian, magaliTisTvis,<br />
pirobiTad, saqonlis<br />
xorci Rirs 12 lari, Saqari 1,8 lari.<br />
ismis kiTxva, _ es risTvis gvinda?<br />
jandacvis saministros 2003<br />
wels SemuSavebuli aqvs moxmarebis<br />
minimaluri normebi, romelTa<br />
mixedviTac gaTvaliswinebulia,<br />
adamianma ra raodenobis Saqari,<br />
kvercxi, rZe da a. S. unda moixmaros<br />
da swored am normativebs usadageben<br />
xsenebul fasebs. amis Semdeg<br />
Tu iciT, rom moxmareba aris<br />
29 kilogrami xorcisa, mas vamravlebT<br />
Rirebulebaze da vRebulobT,<br />
Tu ra dajdeba weliwadSi<br />
xorcis Rirebuleba, asevea purze,<br />
Saqarsa da a. S. amis Semdeg ki ukve<br />
iangariSeba saSualo maCvenebeli.<br />
yvelaferi es 40 dasaxelebis kvebis<br />
produqtze vrceldeba.<br />
ufro naTlad rom warmovidginoT,<br />
magaliTisTvis, jamurad samomxmareblo<br />
kalaTaSi arsebuli<br />
resursebis Tanxis raodenobam miaRwia<br />
100 lars, 70% miCneulia,<br />
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Turqul kompaniaSi vmuSaobdi, _<br />
„Turqsistemjorjias” generaluri<br />
direqtori viyavi, aseve gendireqtoris<br />
warmomadgeneli _<br />
kompania „konteqsSi”. orive Turquli<br />
kompaniaa. saqmiani urTierToba<br />
marto TurqebTan ki ara, iran-<br />
Tan, ukrainasTan, belarusTan<br />
mqonda. mokled, miwevda TurqeT-<br />
Si, ukrainaSi Casvla, sul moZraobaSi<br />
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TbilisSi, orTaWalaSi mapatimreben.<br />
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departamentis TanamSromlebma<br />
damakaves, qalaqis sammarTveloSi<br />
wamiyvanes, _ iq gaverkveviTo. gza-<br />
Si arafers meubnebian. amjerad<br />
umanqanod viyavi. raRacebi momitanes<br />
da xeli moawereo, _ arafersac<br />
ar vawer-meTqi. azrze ar<br />
var, raze damapatimreT-meTqi. _<br />
rogor azrze ar xar, araferi<br />
icio? _ damcinian. xeli ar movawere<br />
da advokati moviTxove. im<br />
dRes araferi da meore dRes ras<br />
vigeb: TurqeTSi myavs megobari,<br />
romelmac, Turme, „Cemi dabadebis<br />
dRisTvis saCuqari gamogzavna”. am<br />
saCuqarSi ki ra Sedis? _ narkotikuli<br />
nivTiereba. mokled, Cems<br />
dabadebis dReze saCuqrad narkotiks<br />
migzavnis. es e. w. saCuqari ki<br />
me TviTon TvaliTac ar minaxavs.<br />
rogor gamoigzavna, visgan, an im<br />
megobarma rogor ar miTxra, rom<br />
saCuqars migzavnida da a. S.?<br />
_ gaCvenes es „saCuqari”?<br />
_ ki, maCvenes, ai, aseTi patara<br />
CanTa iyo da Seni ariso. _ Cemi ar<br />
aris-meTqi! _ ras ambob, Seni rogor<br />
ar aris, es xom Sen gamogigzavneso?<br />
_ me ra vici, iqneb, bin ladenis<br />
xalxma bombi gamomigzavna,<br />
aq me ra SuaSi var-meTqi? meorec,<br />
es marTla gamoigzavna, Tu Tqveni<br />
zrapruli monayolia-meTqi?<br />
mere saqmidan irkveva, rom arsebobs<br />
viRac mowme, azerbaijanis<br />
moqalaqe, romelic maT uyveba,<br />
rom ama da am adamianma (Cemma Turqma<br />
megobarma, romelc im drois-<br />
Tvis saerTod marokoSia, es mere<br />
gavige) viTom es CanTa aRniSnul<br />
narkotikTan erTad misca. viTom<br />
policiis Cvenma TanamSromlebma<br />
amis Sesaxeb icodnen, sazRvarze<br />
gamoatares (gadmotana xom dana-<br />
Saulia, ratom adgilzeve ar dai-<br />
Wires, ra valdebulebac aqvT?),<br />
mere es kaci sarfidan Tbilisamde<br />
avtobusiT modis, ratom ar<br />
iWeren? Turme, aqamde Camovida, es<br />
CanTa momca da amis Semdeg orives<br />
gvapatimreben.<br />
mere is kaci, anu mowme, axsnaganmartebas<br />
aZlevs da uSveben. Semomtans,<br />
gadamtansa da gamsaRebels<br />
uSveben da me, rogorc narkomans,<br />
isev miWeren. xom sasaciloa<br />
es yvelaferi?! is mowme mogvianebiT<br />
vnaxe...<br />
_ mere ra moxda?<br />
_ sadac damapatimres, or-<br />
TaWalaSi, garSemo yvelgan telekamerebia.<br />
veubnebi, _ amoviRoT da<br />
vnaxoT, es kaci saerTod CemTan<br />
movida Tu ara? Tundac erTi<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi vnaxoT, es kaci<br />
saerTod Cems gverdSi yofila?<br />
iqneb, es CanTa sadme mainc Cems<br />
xelSi aRmoCndes, rom gadmomca da<br />
a. S. amas mimtkiceben, me uarze var.<br />
am cxra Tvis ganmavlobaSi erTi<br />
dRe sakanSi rom vrCebodi, patimrebs<br />
amaze ukve eRimebodaT.<br />
_ jer procesi rogor warima-<br />
rTa, amjerad braldeba ra iyo?<br />
_ braldeba aqac igivea, SeZena-<br />
Senaxva didi odenobiT, 260-e muxlis<br />
meore nawili da isev winaswar<br />
patimrobaSi miSveben.<br />
_ sad?<br />
_ ukve axalaSenebul gldanis<br />
cixeSi. cxra Tvis ganmavlobaSi<br />
winaswar patimrobaSi davyavi. am<br />
xnis manZilze xan maSineben, xan<br />
mTxoven, rom ararsebuli danaSauli<br />
vaRiaro. Semodian, rbilad<br />
aris naTqvami. mTeli dRe sakanSi<br />
rom vyofiliyavi, sxva patimrebi,<br />
cota ar iyos, iRimebodnen, raRac<br />
dRes ar mogakiTxeso. sul modiodnen,<br />
xan advokats migzavnidnen,<br />
rogor aRar cdilobdnen. advokati<br />
aiZules, susti wertili mou-<br />
Zebnes da miTxra, _ an ase unda moiqce,<br />
an amgvarad muSaoba aRar<br />
SemiZliao. saqmis mwarmoebeli gamomZiebeli,<br />
prokurori Semodioda.<br />
_ ras geubnebodnen?<br />
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`sami welia, procesi uSedegod midis.<br />
brZolas vagrZelebT da am kuTxiT gverdiT davudgebiT qalbaton eliso<br />
kilaZis Svils, romelic analogiurad daakaves. ar aris gamoricxuli, vinc<br />
CemTan mimarTebiT aseTi ukanonobebi Caidina, aqac igive xalxi iyos<br />
gareuli, radgan sistema erTi da igivea da is ar Secvlila~<br />
_ ho, gasagebia, raRac „iaRli-<br />
Si” mogvivida, Sen marto aRiare<br />
da danarCeni Cven viciTo. yvelaze<br />
didi daintereseba Cems megobarze,<br />
aleqsi miqelaSvilze iyo.<br />
Cemi da aleqsis advokati aleqsis<br />
da iyo da erTad vibrZodiT. ra<br />
gamovida, sxva saqmea, magram Cven<br />
erTad vibrZodiT oqruaSvilis, im<br />
xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg. advokatma<br />
miTxra, _ unda Tqva, rom<br />
aleqsisTan erTad oqruaSvilis<br />
winaaRmdeg arasworad ibrZodiT,<br />
an arada, Seni saqme cudad iqnebao.<br />
maTi pirveli moTxovna aseTi<br />
iyo: wina saqmeze saCivrebi, maT Soris,<br />
strasburgSi gagzavnili sa-<br />
Civari uaryavi, aseve aleqsi miqelaSvilTan<br />
erTad gamoTqmuli<br />
protesti, _ statiebi, gancxadebebi<br />
da a. S. Tqvi, viTom am yvelafers<br />
es kaci gaZalebda da saprocesos<br />
gagiformebT, mxolod erTi<br />
weli ijdebio. mere miTxres, rom<br />
aRiare da erTi welic aRar iqneba,<br />
pirdapir sasamarTlo darbazidan<br />
gagiSvebT, pirobiTs mogcemTo.<br />
mere nel-nela ukan ixevdnen,<br />
saprocesos fulic aRar gvindao.<br />
bolos meubnebodnen, saer-<br />
Tod brals SevwyvetT, ukan gamoviTxovT,<br />
gamamarTlebeli gamogiva,<br />
oRond, eseni gagvikeTeo. araferi<br />
ar gavakeTe. mirCevnia, cixeSi<br />
vijde, vidre amas xeli movaweromeTqi.<br />
_ rogor damTavrda es yve-<br />
laferi?<br />
_ Cemi megobari, aleqsi miqelaSvili<br />
damexmara, bevri irbina<br />
da ibrZola. aq, saqarTveloSi,<br />
arc prokuraturaSi da arc sxvagan,<br />
_ arsad mousmines. mere iZulebuli<br />
gaxda, cxinvalSi gadasuliyo,<br />
rac cixidan gamosvlis<br />
Semdeg gavige. iq os megobrebs<br />
sTxova, CvenTan aseTi usamarTlobaa<br />
da damexmareTo. osebma evrokavSirs<br />
mimarTes. amis mere aq,<br />
ubralod, iZulebuli gaxdnen,<br />
rom cota sxvanairad emoqmedaT.<br />
mixvdnen, rom es absoluturad<br />
usafuZvlo saqme iyo da mas seriozuli<br />
skandali mohyveboda.<br />
amis Semdeg, zustad 8 Tvesa da<br />
21 dReSi, sasamarTlo procesi<br />
gaimarTa da mosamarTlem gamamarTlebeli<br />
gadawyvetileba gamoitana.<br />
gamosvlisTanave davinteresdi,<br />
es ra momivida, vin iyo<br />
is mowme, romelic ambobda, rom<br />
CemTvis CanTa gamoatanes-meTqi?<br />
davureke Turq megobars, _ ras<br />
laparakob, erTi Tve iqneba, rac<br />
marokodan Camovedio; Senc xom<br />
icodi, rom ori weli marokoSi<br />
viyavio.<br />
did eWvebSi Cavvardi. mere<br />
saqmidan is mowme movZebne. azerbaijanis<br />
moqalaqe aRmoCnda,<br />
romelic qalaq ganjaSi cxovrobs.<br />
avdeqi da iq Cavedi, movZebne, saxlSi<br />
damxvda. kargi ojaxi hyavs,<br />
TviTon ubralo adamiania, romelic<br />
TurqeTSi dadis samuSaod.<br />
ori-sami Tve imuSavebs, raRac or<br />
kapiks moaquCebs, Camova da amiT<br />
ojaxs inaxavs.<br />
am pirovnebam mainc bolomde<br />
normalurad ver amixsna, saidan<br />
moxvda aRniSnuli policielebis<br />
xelSi. cota bundovani kiTxvebi<br />
damrCa, magram zedmetad aRar<br />
CaveZie. _ me sxva gza aRar mqonda,<br />
maiZules, mcemes, Ramis oTx saaTamde<br />
mawames, _ Sen an am formiT am<br />
kacis winaaRmdeg mowmed unda gaxvide,<br />
anda cema-tyepis Semdeg xval<br />
brali wageyeneba sazRvarze narkotikebis<br />
gadmotana-gasaRebaze da<br />
saqarTveloSi 20 wliT sasjelis<br />
moxda mogiwevso. ase SemaSines,<br />
ojaxi myavs, Tan cemas ver gavuZeli,<br />
SemeSinda, avdeqi da xeli movawere,<br />
oRond aqedan gamiSvano. im<br />
Ramesve gamiSves, magram TurqeTidan<br />
rac ki wamoRebuli mqonda,<br />
yvelaferi, maT Soris, fulic wamarTves,<br />
ukan araferi damibrunes,<br />
simarTle giTxra, iseT dReSi<br />
viyavi, amas aRar veZebdi, oRond<br />
Tavi dameRwiao. Camosvlis mere<br />
TurqeTSi namyofi aRar aris.<br />
_ Tu aseTi alali adamiani xar<br />
da rac momiyevi, simarTlea, wavideT<br />
notariusTan da es yvelaferi,<br />
axsna-ganmarteba, gavaformoT,<br />
Tan videofiric CavweroTmeTqi.<br />
gadavediT, axsna-ganmarteba<br />
misca, notariusma daamtkica<br />
iqve, ganjaSi da amas garda, videofiric<br />
gavakeTeT, sadac es kaci<br />
igives ambobs.<br />
Camovedi, es axsna-ganmarteba<br />
qarTulad gadavTargmne, isev notariusiT<br />
gavatare da mTavar<br />
prokuraturas mivawode, sadac es<br />
kaci ambobs, rom TanamSromlebma<br />
ase da ase gamikeTes, gTxovT, is<br />
Tanxa damibruneTo. amas garda,<br />
Cemi gancxadebac gadaveci (im kacis<br />
axsna-ganmartebis darTviT),<br />
Cemi gamamarTlebeli ganaCeniT<br />
prokuraturis generalur inspeqcias<br />
vTxove gaerkvia, es xalxi Cem<br />
mimarT ase araadamianurad ratom<br />
moiqca?<br />
darwmunebuli var, rom dResac<br />
am saqmeze kaciSvili dasjili ar<br />
aris. arc Zvel saqmeSi, sadac dazaralebuladac<br />
ki var cnobili.<br />
_ aranairi reagireba ar yofi-<br />
la?<br />
_ nuli reagirebaa, pasuxi ar<br />
migviRia. bolos me da aleqsi miqelaSvilma<br />
2014 wlis 12 seqtembers<br />
mTavrobis meTaurs mivmarTeT.<br />
erTaderTi, kancelariam is<br />
gaakeTa, rom es saqme mTavar prokuraturas<br />
gadaugzavna. masalebi<br />
52 furclad aris akinZuli, magram<br />
es yvelaferi mesame weli, reagirebis<br />
gareSea.<br />
_ dRes ras iTxovT?<br />
_ samarTals viTxov ara marto<br />
Cem mimarT, aramed yvela adamianis<br />
mimarT, vinc aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
es usamarTloba ganicada.<br />
saxelmwifom unda daadginos es<br />
samarTlianoba. es exeba rogorc<br />
Cems pirvel, aseve meore saqmes da,<br />
saerTod, yvela Cadenil ukanonobaze<br />
kompensaciasac viTxov.<br />
prokuratura sasacilo mdgomareobaSia,<br />
roca ambobs, rom me,<br />
saxelmwifom, bolos kidev cxra<br />
Tve cixeSi gamyofe da Sen kompensacia<br />
mainc ar gekuTvniso. es<br />
paradoqsia, meti araferi. ager<br />
maTi werilebi, sadac uars amboben<br />
zianis anazRaurebaze. xom SeiZleba<br />
Tqva, amdeni ara da amdeni gekuTvniso?<br />
ara, saerTod ar geku-<br />
Tvniso. wesier pasuxsac veRar<br />
gvcemen, imdenad siraqlemis poza-<br />
Si imyofebian.<br />
aqve ganvmartav, rom Cemi gamarTlebis<br />
Semdeg sasamarTlos reabilitaciisTvis<br />
mivmarTe, aseve<br />
zianis anazRaurebisTvis. zianis<br />
anazRaurebaze pirveli saqalaqo<br />
instancia rom dasrulda, prokuraturam<br />
es gadawyvetileba saapelacioSi<br />
gaasaCivra. prokuratura<br />
acxadebs, rom ar unda gadaixadon<br />
da Tu ratom, amas verafriT<br />
xsnian. sakuTar Tavsac<br />
ver auxsnian, CemTvis moyenebuli<br />
ziani ratom ar unda anazRaurdes.<br />
dRes procesi saapelacio sasamarTloSia.<br />
maTi mizani xelovnurad<br />
gawelvaa, raTa am dros an ra-<br />
Rac isev dammarTon, an sxva raRac<br />
moxdeba da oRond ki ziani ar aminazRauron.<br />
ase sami welia, procesi<br />
uSedegod midis.<br />
brZolas vagrZelebT da am<br />
kuTxiT gverdiT davudgebiT qalbaton<br />
eliso kilaZis Svils, romelic<br />
analogiurad daakaves. ar<br />
aris gamoricxuli, vinc CemTan mimarTebiT<br />
aseTi ukanonobebi Caidina,<br />
aqac igive xalxi iyos gareuli,<br />
radgan sistema erTi da igivea<br />
da is ar Secvlila. amitom usamarTlobis<br />
winaaRmdeg am qveyana-<br />
Si brZola unda gagrZeldes.<br />
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mesame nawili<br />
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##15;16.<br />
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Si, qveyana osmaleTis agresiisa da<br />
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safrTxis winaSe dgeboda. 28 Tebervals<br />
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SemadgenlobaSi, daaxloebiT, 25<br />
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azerbaijanma omze kategoriuli<br />
uari ganacxada.<br />
1918 wlis martis dasawyisSi osmaleTis<br />
mTavrobam amierkavkasiis<br />
komisariats brest-litovskis zavis<br />
Sedegad kavkasiis regionSi Seqmnili<br />
axali politikuri realobis ganxilva<br />
diplomatiur doneze SesTavaza.<br />
am nabijiT Turqebi cdilobdnen,<br />
zedmeti samxedro winaaRmdegobis<br />
gareSe daekavebinaT zavis pirobebiT<br />
maTTvis mikuTvnebuli teritoriebi.<br />
diplomatiur iniciativas Turquli<br />
armia umagrebda zurgs, romelic win<br />
swrafad miiwevda. aseT viTarebaSi<br />
amierkavkasiis komisariatma TurqeT-<br />
Tan molaparakebis gamarTva mizanSewonilad<br />
miiCnia da specialuri delegaciac<br />
Camoayaliba. delegaciaSi,<br />
romelic 11 wevrsa da 29 mrCevels<br />
aerTianebda, amierkavkasiis samive nacionaluri<br />
fraqciis warmomadgenlebi<br />
Sevidnen. misiis xelmZRvanelad<br />
qarTveli social-demokrati akaki<br />
Cxenkeli dainiSna.<br />
seimma Sexvedris adgilad trapizoni<br />
SearCia. im periodisTvis igi<br />
neitraluri adgili iyo, romelsac<br />
Turqebi ver akontrolebdnen da,<br />
amdenad, molaparakebis procesSi<br />
formalurad orive mxare Tanabar<br />
pirobebSi iqneboda Cayenebuli. amierkavkasiis<br />
delegacia trapizonSi<br />
8 marts Cavida, Tumca am droisTvis<br />
viTareba ukve Secvlili iyo. erTi<br />
dRiT adre qalaqi osmalTa samxedro<br />
nawilebma daikaves. mdgomareoba<br />
kidev ufro damZimda 12 marts,<br />
rodesac Turqebma minimaluri danakargiT<br />
erzrumic aiRes.<br />
1918 wlis 14 marts, dRis sam<br />
saaTze, trapizonis samSvidobo molaparakeba<br />
gaixsna. oficialuri nawilis<br />
dawyebamde amierkavkasiis delegaciis<br />
xelmZRvaneli akaki Cxenkeli<br />
pirispir Sexvda molaparakebaze<br />
Turquli mxaris meTaurs, husein<br />
rauf beis. rauf beim pirdapir ganucxada<br />
Cxenkels, rom trapizonis<br />
Sexvedra ar warmoadgens diplomatiuri<br />
molaparakebis formats, radgan<br />
brest-litovskis sazavo xelSekrulebiT<br />
yvela sakiTxi ukve isedac<br />
gadawyvetilia da amerkavkasiis delegacias<br />
mxolod misi aRiareba moeTxoveba.<br />
rauf beim isic daamata, rom<br />
amierkavkasiam dauyovnebliv unda<br />
gadasces TurqeTs ardaganis, yarsisa<br />
da baTumis olqebi, winaaRmdeg<br />
SemTxvevaSi, Turquli armia samxedro<br />
Zalis gamoyenebiT mTeli regionis<br />
okupacias moaxdenda.<br />
amis Semdeg daiwyo molaparakebis<br />
oficialuri nawili, romelsac<br />
Tavidanve TurqeTis delegaciis xelmZRvaneli<br />
warmarTavda. rauf beim<br />
dasawyisSi misasalmebeli sityva warmoTqva,<br />
sadac amierkavkasiis erebisa<br />
da TurqeTis saerTo istoriaze<br />
isaubra da kmayofileba gamoTqva,<br />
rom ruseTis imperiis daSlis Semdeg<br />
kavkasielebma damoukideblobis gza<br />
airCies: „200 wlis manZilze Cven er-<br />
Toblivad vawarmoebdiT TavdacviT<br />
omebs rusuli carizmis winaaRmdeg.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, vfiqrob, rom<br />
Cvens qveynebs gaaCniaT saerTo istoria,<br />
romelic mTeli am brZolis man-<br />
Zilze gvaerTianebda... Cvens qveynebs<br />
Soris aris ara mxolod istoriuli<br />
da geografiuli erToba, aramed me<br />
vityodi, naTesavuri kavSiric, romelic<br />
yvela Cvenganis saerTo warsulidan<br />
momdinareobs. swored amitomac<br />
aris, rom, amJamad, kavkasiisa<br />
da TurqeTis erebs aqvT erTi da<br />
igive istoria, erTi da igive religia<br />
da, praqtikulad, isini erT ers<br />
warmoadgenen”. kavkasiisa da Turqe-<br />
Tis identobis Sesaxeb es usagno<br />
gancxadeba ufro metad azerbaijanul<br />
mxareze iyo gaTvlili. ra Tqma<br />
unda, rauf beim isedac mSvenivrad<br />
rauf bei<br />
icoda, rom religiuri, istoriuli<br />
da eTnikuri TvalsazrisiT sruli<br />
absurdi iyo qarTvelebisa da somxebis<br />
Turqul samyaroSi aTqvefa. es<br />
gancxadeba amierkavkasiis delegaciaSi<br />
uTanxmoebis Camogdebas da<br />
delegaciis azerbaijanuli nawilis<br />
sakuTar mxares mimxrobas emsaxureboda.<br />
amierkavkasiis delegaciis wevrebs<br />
Soris dabneulobis Setanis Semdeg<br />
rauf beim osmaleTis oficialuri<br />
mimarTva waikiTxa: „osmaleTis<br />
imperiis delegacias pativi aqvs ganacxados,<br />
rom mis mTavrobas gulwrfelad<br />
surs daamyaros keTilmezobluri<br />
urTierToba amierkavkasiis<br />
respublikasTan, romelic amJamad<br />
Camoyalibebis procesSia. Cven vTxovT<br />
amierkavkasiis delegacias, gvacnobos<br />
aRniSnuli respublikis politikuri<br />
da organizaciuri forma.<br />
garda amisa, Cvens delegacias ainteresebs,<br />
Seasrula Tu ara amierkavkasiis<br />
respublikam saerTaSoriso<br />
samarTliT gavaliswinebuli yvela<br />
is moTxovna, romelic saWiroa axali<br />
saxelmwifos Sesaqmnelad?”<br />
Turqebis mier diplomatiur<br />
enaze mowodebuli es zrdilobiani<br />
mimarTva Cveulebriv enaze, daaxloebiT,<br />
Semdegnairad JRerda: vin xarT,<br />
vin gicnobT da saerTod vis dakargvixarT?<br />
anu osmalebma Tavidanve<br />
gamouval mdgomareobaSi Caayenes amierkavkasiis<br />
delegatebi da naTlad<br />
ganucxades, rom isini ararsebul<br />
saxelmwifos warmoadgendnen. amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciam Turqul kiTxvaze<br />
pasuxi meore dRes Camoayaliba:<br />
„amierkavkasiis politikur, administraciul<br />
da mmarTvelobiT formas<br />
gansazRvravs mxolod erTaderTi<br />
legitimuri organo _ amierkavkasiis<br />
seimi, romelic arCeulia amierkavkasiis<br />
moqalaqeebis mier Tavisufali<br />
nebis gamoxatvis gziT. bolSevikuri<br />
gadatrialebisTanave amierkavkasiis<br />
teritoriaze arseboba Sewyvita<br />
ruseTis centralurma xelisuflebam<br />
da aRmocenda axali damoukidebeli<br />
mTavroba, romelic amJamad<br />
angariSvaldebulia mxolod seimis<br />
winaSe. am mTavrobam gadadga Sesabamisi<br />
nabiji saerTaSoriso urTierTobis<br />
sferoSi da miiRo otomanTa mTavrobis<br />
winadadeba, daewyo masTan<br />
damoukidebeli molaparakebis procesi<br />
mSvidobis damyarebis Taobaze.<br />
amierkavkasiis seimma da mTavrobam<br />
gadadga Semdegi nabijic saer-<br />
TaSoriso urTierTobebis sferoSi<br />
da gaagzavna saprotesto depeSa im<br />
qveynebis sagareo saministroebis<br />
saxelze, romlebic monawileobdnen<br />
brest-litovskis sazavo molaparakebebSi.<br />
amierkavkasiis mTavrobas miaCnia,<br />
rom brest-litovskis zavis im<br />
nawils, romelic exeba amierkavkasias<br />
da romelic gadawyvites maTi Tanxmobisa<br />
da monawileobis gareSe, saer-<br />
TaSoriso samarTlis TvalsazrisiT<br />
ar gaaCnia safuZveli da Cveni mxridan<br />
ar eqvemdebareba savaldebulo<br />
Sesrulebas.<br />
trapizonSi mimdinare samSvidobo<br />
konferencia aris saerTaSoriso samarTlis<br />
aqti. amgvarad, amierkavkasia<br />
de faqto ukve warmoadgens saxelmwifos,<br />
Tumca mas jer ar mouxdenia<br />
damoukideblobis deklarireba”.<br />
mkafiod formulirebuli mtkice<br />
pasuxis miuxedavad, amierkavkasia ar<br />
warmoadgenda damoukidebel saxelmwifos<br />
da es TurqebisTvis Zalian<br />
kargad iyo cnobili. rauf beim es<br />
garemoeba umal gamoiyena da amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciis warmomadgenlebs<br />
uxerxuli kiTxviT mimarTa.<br />
kiTxvis arsi amierkavkasiis respublikis<br />
sazRvrebs exeboda. amierkavkasiis<br />
delegacia mZime mdgomareoba-<br />
Si aRmoCnda. Tu isini pirvel msoflio<br />
omamde, anu 1914 wlamde arsebul<br />
sazRvrebs daasaxelebdnen, gamodioda,<br />
rom amierkavkasiis SemadgenlobaSi<br />
igulisxmeboda is teritoriac,<br />
romelic brest-litovskis zavis<br />
mixedviT TurqeTs gadaeca. sxva<br />
SemTxvevaSi delegacias zavis pirobebi<br />
unda eRiarebina da TurqeTis<br />
moTxovnebs dasTanxmeboda.<br />
vinaidan amierkavkasiis delegaciam<br />
trapizonis konferenciaze<br />
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brest-litovskis zavis pirobebi mtkiced<br />
uaryo, sazRvrebis Sesaxeb akaki<br />
Cxenkelis pasuxic am poziciis<br />
gagrZelebas warmoadgenda: „amierkavkasiis<br />
saxelmwifos teritoriaSi<br />
Sedis baqos, elizavetopolis,<br />
erevnis, tfilisisa da quTaisis guberniebi,<br />
baTumisa da yarsis olqebi,<br />
agreTve, soxumisa da zaqaTalis<br />
okrugebi”. amgvarad amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciam kidev erTxel daadastura,<br />
rom ar cnobda brest-litovskis<br />
SeTanxmebas da baTumisa da yarsis<br />
olqebi sakuTar teritoriad miaCnda.<br />
TurqTa pozicia erTmniSvnelovani<br />
iyo da amierkavkasiis delegacias<br />
mcire lavirebis saSualebasac<br />
ki ar utovebda. rauf beim sajarod<br />
kidev erTxel ganacxada, rom osmaleTi<br />
ar aRiarebda amierkavkasias<br />
damoukidebel subieqtad da trapizonis<br />
konferenciis gasagrZeleblad<br />
amierkavkasiis mTavrobisgan kategoriulad<br />
moiTxova damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadeba yvela saerTaSoriso normebis<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT. „aseT SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Cven amierkavkasiis damoukideblobas<br />
vaRiarebT da sixaruliT<br />
dagiWerT mxars sakuTari saxelmwifos<br />
mSeneblobaSi. ruseTis faqtoris<br />
gaTvaliswinebiT, es Cvens interesSi<br />
Sedis. amis sanacvlod Tur-<br />
da. amierkavkasiis delegacia, faqtobrivad,<br />
diplomatiur CixSi aRmoCnda.<br />
rauf beisa da akaki Cxenkels Soris<br />
gamarTul kerZo SexvedrebSi<br />
TurqeTis delegaciis xelmZRvanels<br />
ar daumalavs, Tu ratom surda osmaleTs<br />
amierkavkasiis damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadeba: „TurqeTs amierkavkasia<br />
ruseTTan buferuli<br />
zonis Sesaqmnelad sWirdeba. Tu kavkasia<br />
am amocanas Seasrulebs, Sesa-<br />
Zloa, vifiqroT kidec baTumisa da<br />
yarsis dabrunebaze. magram sakiTxavia,<br />
SeZlebs Tu ara amierkavkasia<br />
Zlier saxelmwifo erTeulad Camoyalibdes?<br />
aq meorec aris _ ramdenad<br />
daicavs damoukidebeli amierkavkasia<br />
TurqeTis interesebs? amierkavkasia<br />
damoukidebeli unda iyos, radgan<br />
Cven vSiSobT, rom sxva SemTxvevaSi,<br />
rodesac xelsayreli viTareba iqneba,<br />
regioni isev ruseTisken Setrialdeba”.<br />
TavisTavad cxadia, TurqeTi ar<br />
iyo darwmunebuli, rom damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebis Semdeg amierkavkasia<br />
iseT Zlier, erTian saxelmwifod<br />
Sedgeboda, romelic ruseTsa<br />
da TurqeTs Soris buferis funqcias<br />
Seasrulebda. osmalebma kargad<br />
icodnen sam kavkasiur ers Soris<br />
arsebuli gadaulaxavi winaaRmde-<br />
damoukideblobis qronikebi<br />
Zlebdnen ruseTis SeCerebas amierkavkasiaSi.<br />
amitom osmaleTi winaswar SemuSavebuli<br />
gegmis mixedviT moqmedebda<br />
da sakuTari miznis miRwevaSi amierkavkasielebis<br />
gamoyenebis molodini<br />
naklebad hqonda. baTumis, ardaganisa<br />
da yarsis SemoerTeba TurqeTs<br />
amierkavkasiis kontrolis mSvenier<br />
saSualebas aZlevda. regionis<br />
formalurad damoukidebel subieqtad<br />
gamocxadeba ki ruseTisgan<br />
saWiro buferuli zonis Seqmnas<br />
uzrunvelyofda. aseTi viTareba<br />
TavisTavad gulisxmobda, rom amierkavkasia<br />
TurqeTis gavlenis qveS<br />
eqceoda. kidev erTi garemoeba: Tu<br />
amierkavkasia damoukideblobas gamoacxadebda<br />
da TurqeTi am axal subieqtTan<br />
samSvidobo xelSekrulebas<br />
brest-litovskis sazavo pirobebis<br />
mixedviT gaaformebda, osmaleTi okupirebuli<br />
teritoriebis legalizebas<br />
moaxdenda.<br />
1918 wlis 21 marts rauf beim amierkvkasiis<br />
delegacias ultimatumi<br />
wauyena, sadac brest-litovskis<br />
pirobebze saboloo pasuxs 3 dRis<br />
vadaSi iTxovda. konferencia droebiT<br />
Sewyda, radgan amierkavkasiis<br />
delegacias TurqTa ultimatumi seimisTvis<br />
unda gaecno. 22 marts tfilisSi<br />
TurqTa ultimatumis ganxil-<br />
iTxSi saerTo poziciis Sejereba ver<br />
moxerxda. gadawyda, rom trapizonis<br />
samSvidobo konferenciaze amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciis xelmZRvanel akaki<br />
Cxenkels farTo uflebamosileba<br />
miniWeboda, romelic damoukideblad<br />
da viTarebis Sesabamisad gadawyvetda<br />
teritoriis daTmobis sakiTxebs.<br />
masve mieca TurqeTTan samSvidobo<br />
xelSekrulebis xelmoweris<br />
ufleba.<br />
30 marts trapizonSi samSvidobo<br />
konferencia ganaxlda. rauf beim<br />
amierkavkasiis delegacias kvlav ultimatumi<br />
wauyena da gadaWriT ganacxada,<br />
rom Tu 3 aprilamde osmaleTi<br />
misTvis sasurvel pasuxs ar miiRebda,<br />
Turquli armia Setevas daiwyebda.<br />
Cxenkelma osmaleTs garkveuli<br />
teritoriuli daTmoba SesTavaza,<br />
romlis mixedviTac TurqeTs gadaecemoda:<br />
olTisis olqi mTlianad,<br />
ardaganis olqis samxreTi, baTumis<br />
olqis nawili, yarsis samxreT-dasavleTi<br />
nawili da agreTve yaRizmanis<br />
okrugis dasavleTi. Tumca TurqeTma<br />
es piroba ar miiRo. 6 aprils osmaleTis<br />
SeiaraRebulma Zalebma<br />
brest-litovskis zaviT gansazRvruli<br />
teritoriebis dakavebis brZaneba<br />
miiRes.<br />
1918 wlis 8 aprils mteri amierkavkasiis<br />
sazRvrebSi SemoiWra da<br />
is warmoeba da im teritoriebis SenarCuneba,<br />
romelic brest-litovskis<br />
zaviT TurqeTs ar ekuTvnoda.<br />
1918 wlis 22 aprils amierkavkasiis<br />
seimis sagangebo sxdoma Catarda.<br />
xangrZlivi kamaTis Semdeg deputatebma<br />
ruseTis Semadgenlobidan regionis<br />
gasvlisa da amierkavkasiis<br />
demokratiuli federaciuli respublikis<br />
Seqmnis gadawyvetileba miiRes.<br />
axali saxelmwifos dedaqalaqad<br />
tfilisi dasaxelda. federacia-<br />
Si sami kavkasiuri qveyana gaerTianda:<br />
saqarTvelo, somxeTi da azebaijani.<br />
federaciis seimis Tavmjdomared<br />
qarTveli social-demokrati nikoloz<br />
CxeiZe airCies.<br />
amierkavkasiis seimma imave sxdomaze<br />
moismina sazavo delegaciis moxseneba<br />
da sazavo molaparakebis gagr-<br />
Zelebis dadgenileba miiRo. federaciuli<br />
respublikis mTavrobis<br />
Seqmna akaki Cxenkels daevala. 1918<br />
wlis 26 aprils akaki Cxenkelma seims<br />
dasamtkiceblad mTavrobis Semadgenloba<br />
warudgina, romelic imave<br />
dRes daamtkices. mTavrobis Tavmjdomaris<br />
posti akaki Cxenkelma Caibara.<br />
Turquli armia ki ar Cerdeboda<br />
da sul ufro afarToebda kavkasiis<br />
regionSi gavlenis sferos. 25 aprils<br />
osmalebma yarsi aiRes da axali ul-<br />
qeTi mzad aris, yvelanairad mxarSi<br />
dagidgeT. magaliTad, bolSevikebis<br />
winaaRmdeg sabrZolvelad jarsac ki<br />
dagaxmarT”, _ aRniSna man.<br />
rauf bei ise saubrobda, TiTqos<br />
TurqeTs marTla surda amierkavkasiasTan<br />
keTilmezobluri urTier-<br />
Tobis damyareba. misi sityvebidan<br />
iseTi STabeWdileba rCeboda, rom<br />
maTi mTavari mizani regionidan<br />
ruseTis gaZeveba iyo da amis safasurad,<br />
SesaZloa, teritoriul sakiTxSi<br />
kompromiszec ki wasuliyvnen.<br />
Tumca osmalTa delegaciis meTaurma<br />
es iluzia meore dResve gaaqarwyla.<br />
misi sityvebiT, brest-litovskis<br />
zavis xelmoweris dros amierkavkasia,<br />
jer kidev, ruseTis Semadgenel<br />
nawils warmoadgenda da<br />
mas sakuTari mTavrobac ki ar gaaCnda.<br />
misi sityvebiT, swored imis gamo,<br />
rom amierkavkasia ar warmoadgenda<br />
damoukidebel saxelmwifos, igi ar<br />
daswrebia brest-litovskis molaparakebas,<br />
amitom am samSvidobo xelSekrulebis<br />
aRsruleba amierkavkasiisTvis<br />
savaldebulo iyo. im SemTxvevaSic<br />
ki, Tu amierkavkasia damoukideblobas<br />
gamoacxadebda, am faqts<br />
ukuZala ar eqneboda da brest-litovskis<br />
SeTanxmeba ar gadaixedeboda.<br />
amgvarad, TurqeTma yovelgvari<br />
qveteqstebis gareSe Riad ganacxada,<br />
rom damoukideblobis gamocxadebis<br />
SemTxvevaSic ki baTumis, ardaganisa<br />
da yarsis olqebs TurqeTi SeierTeb-<br />
gobebis Sesaxeb. gansxvavebuli politikuri<br />
orientacia, gansxvavebuli<br />
aRmsarebloba, mougvarebeli da sadavo<br />
sasazRvro sakiTxebi, romelic<br />
xSirad SeiaraRebuli dapirispirebebis<br />
sababi xdeboda. ra Tqma unda, TurqebisTvis<br />
cnobili iyo azerbaijanelebisa<br />
da qarTvelebis antirusuli<br />
ganwyoba (azerbaijani, rom TurqeTisken<br />
miiltvoda, es isedac cxadi<br />
iyo), magram isini ar iyvenen darwmunebulni,<br />
rom qarTvelebi pro-<br />
Turqul pozicias daikavebdnen. eWvs<br />
ar iwvevda somexTa rusuli orientaciac,<br />
radgan somxeTis, rogorc saxelmwifos<br />
arsebobis ZiriTadi garanti<br />
mxolod ruseTi iyo. osmalebs<br />
imaSic eparebodaT eWvi, rom antirusuli<br />
poziciis miuxedavad, saqarTvelo<br />
da azerbaijani damoukideblad,<br />
an Tundac erToblivad Se-<br />
va daiwyo. msjeloba, ZiriTadad, ori<br />
sakiTxis Sesaxeb mimdinareobda:<br />
damoukideblobis gamocxadeba da<br />
osmaleTis teritoriuli pretenzia.<br />
pirvel sakiTxze xmaTa umravlesobiT<br />
gadawyda, rom damoukidebloba<br />
ar gamocxadebuliyo. am TemasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT qarTvel socialdemokrat<br />
wereTlis mosazreba Semdegi<br />
iyo: „damoukideblobis gamocxadebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi Cven iZulebulni<br />
viqnebiT, davafiqsiroT amierkavkasiis<br />
teritoriuli sazRvrebi da radganac<br />
baTumis, ardaganisa da yarsis<br />
olqebi am sazRvrebSi Sedis, arc TurqeTi<br />
da arc Cveni mokavSire qveynebi<br />
am damoukideblobas ar cnoben.<br />
amas Cven ultimatumad CagviTvlian”.<br />
Semdeg msjeloba gaimarTa TurqeTisTvis<br />
teritoriuli daTmobis sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, magram am sak-<br />
13 aprils ukve baTumi daikava. imave<br />
dRes amierkavkasiis komisariatisa da<br />
seimis fraqciaTa gaerTianebulma<br />
krebam erTxmad miiRo irakli wereTlis<br />
rezolucia trapizonidan amierkavkasiis<br />
delegaciis gamowvevis<br />
Sesaxeb. samSvidobo konferencia ise<br />
CaiSala, rom konkretuli gadawyvetileba<br />
ar miuRia.<br />
15-21 aprils TurqeTis jarebma<br />
daikaves: ozurgeTi, qobuleTi, mTeli<br />
mesxeTi da borjomis misadgomebTan<br />
gamoCndnen. qarTulma jarma<br />
osmalTa mcire xniT SeCereba marto<br />
mdinare ColoqTan moaxerxa. Seiqmna<br />
viTareba, rodesac amierkavkasia ara<br />
marto brest-litovskis zaviT ga-<br />
Tvaliswinebul teritoriebs kargavda,<br />
aramed mas totaluri okupaciis<br />
safrTxe emuqreboda. pirvel rigSi,<br />
es saqarTvelos dedaqalaq tfiliss<br />
exeboda, romlis dakavebasac osmalebi<br />
seriozulad ganixilavdnen.<br />
social-demokratebis mier damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadebis sawinaaRmdego<br />
argumentma Zala dakarga<br />
_ TurqeTma isedac daikava sadavo<br />
teritoriebi da, rogorc Cans, miRweuliT<br />
dakmayofilebas ar apirebda.<br />
im pirobebSi, rodesac amierkavkasias<br />
ar Seswevda samxedro winaaRmdegoba<br />
gaewia osmalTa armiisTvis,<br />
Turqebis SesaCereblad damoukideblobis<br />
gamocxadeba upirvelesi<br />
varianti gaxda. damoukidebeli saxelmwifos<br />
SemTxvevaSi, SesaZlebeli<br />
xdeboda oficialuri molaparakeb-<br />
timatumi wamoayenes: amierkavkasiis<br />
federacias Tavisi SeiaraRebuli<br />
Zalebi 1877-1878 wlebSi ruseT-<br />
TurqeTis omis dawyebamde arsebuli<br />
sazRvaris miRma unda gaeyvana, es sazRvari<br />
ki mdinare Coloqisa da arpaCais<br />
xazze gadioda. cxadi gaxda,<br />
rom TurqeTis teritoriuli ambicia<br />
brest-litovskis zavis pirobebiT ar<br />
Semoifargleboda da igi mTeli regionis<br />
okupacias Seecdeboda.<br />
1918 wlis aprilis bolos, germaniis<br />
saxiT, kavkasiaSi axali Zlieri<br />
politikuri moTamaSe gamoCnda. germania,<br />
marTlia TurqeTis mokavSire<br />
gaxldaT, magram amierkavkasiis regionSi<br />
osmaleTis zedmetad ga-<br />
Zliereba mis gegmebSi sulac ar Sedioda.<br />
kavkasiis mimarT mas Tavad<br />
hqonda gamokveTili politikuri interesi.<br />
1918 wlis 27 aprils germaniis<br />
moTxovniT, stambulSi saidumlo<br />
xelSekruleba gaformda, romelic<br />
amierkavkasiaSi gavlenis sferoebis<br />
gadanawilebas exeboda. TurqeTi<br />
ukve okupirebul teritoriebs unda<br />
dasjereboda, xolo amierkavkasiis<br />
danarCeni nawili germaniis kotrolis<br />
qveS gadadioda.<br />
germaniis moTxovniTve, TurqeTma<br />
28 aprils amierkavkasiis federaciis<br />
damoukidebloba aRiara da<br />
mzadyofna gamoTqva, axlad Seqmnil<br />
saxelmwifosTan samSvidobo molaparakeba<br />
gaemarTa. molaparakeba 11<br />
maiss ukve Turqebis mier okupirebul<br />
baTumSi unda Semdgariyo.<br />
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is yvelas exmareba _ ase icnoben iq, sadac meoTxe welia,<br />
swavlobs. mas maSas eZaxian da yvelam icis, rom fexburTis<br />
Tavgadakluli gulSematkivaria, magram cotam, rom igi lit-<br />
eraturaze moswavleebs leqciebs ukiTxavs.<br />
rTulia ipovoT adamiani,<br />
romelsac imdenad farTo Tva-<br />
lsawieri aqvs, ramxelac maSas<br />
codna swvdeba. swored amitom<br />
mosiarule Wikipedia Searqves da<br />
mainc, mas hgonia, rom ubralo<br />
gogonaa samegrelodan. uyvars<br />
wignebi, aqvs blogi, sadac sxva-<br />
dasxva socialurad aqtualur<br />
Tu misTvis mniSvnelovan Temaze<br />
wers, wers leqsebsac, xatavs da<br />
ukravs pianinoze. amasTan erTad<br />
or profesias eufleba da mainc<br />
hgonia, rom jer sakuTari Tavi<br />
ar upovia.<br />
gaicaniT, es mariam gvarami-<br />
aa, _ gogona leqtori, poeti,<br />
blogeri, Jurnalisti da so-<br />
cialuri muSaki.<br />
_ momiyevi cotaodeni Senze<br />
(vin xar, warmoSobiT saidan,<br />
ramdeni wlis, ras saqmianob)?<br />
_ mariam gvaramia, bevrisTvis<br />
maSa var, 21 wlis, Jurnalistikis<br />
mimarTulebaze vswavlob Tbilisis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetSi,<br />
samwuxarod Tu sabednierod, er-<br />
Tma profesiam ar damakmayofila<br />
da meorad specialobad socialuri<br />
muSaoba avirCie, axla orive<br />
mimarTulebas vswavlob, ukve bolo<br />
kursze var. warmoSobiT, suliT<br />
da guliT, var samegrelodan,<br />
kerZod walenjixidan. Zalian<br />
miyvars Cemi kuTxe, qalaqi da sofeli,<br />
sadac gavizarde da sadac<br />
momavalSic vapireb cxovrebas.<br />
ZiriTad dros swavlas vuTmob,<br />
Tumca, amavdroulad, sxva saqmianobasac<br />
vaxerxeb. Zalian miyvars<br />
wera da xSirad vwer, vmonawileob<br />
sxvadasxva proeqtSi. amJamad<br />
swavlasTan erTad Tbilisis skolebSi<br />
vatareb leqciebs wignebze.<br />
_ ratom dainteresdi im sa-<br />
qmiT, rasac akeTeb (wignebze le-<br />
qciebis kiTxvas vgulisxmob. ra<br />
iyo inspiracia, visTan erTad<br />
saqmianob, pirveli nabijebi ro-<br />
gor gadadgi?)?<br />
_ adamianma yvela saqmeSi unda<br />
gamoscados Tavi, gansakuTrebiT<br />
maSin, rodesac jer kidev ar<br />
icis, Tu sadaa misi adgili. ase-<br />
Ti adamiani var me da rogorc ki<br />
imis SesaZlebloba gamoCnda, rom<br />
am ampluaSi Tavi mecada, uari ar<br />
miTqvams da amas arc vnanob. esaa<br />
organizacia „Tavisufali asociaciis”<br />
proeqti, romelsac Tbilisis<br />
saxelmwifo universitetTan<br />
erTad vaxorcielebT. proeqti<br />
iTvaliswinebs Tbilisis sajaro<br />
skolebSi qarTuli da ucxouri<br />
wignebis Sesaxeb leqciebs da Semdeg<br />
am wignebze radiogadacemebis<br />
momzadebas. ramdenime Sexvedra<br />
CavatareT ukve da win kidev<br />
bevri gvelodeba. darwmunebuli<br />
var, ufro sainteresoc da mravlismomcvelic.<br />
proeqtSi sul<br />
oTxi adamiani varT CarTuli,<br />
aqedan sami studenti da CvenTvis<br />
es, pirvel rigSi, Zalian didi<br />
gamocdilebaa. CemTvis ki is saqmea,<br />
romelic, jerjerobiT, momwons<br />
da siamovnebiT gavagrZelebdi<br />
kidev didxans.<br />
_ ra sirTuleebi SegxvdaT<br />
gzad?<br />
_ pirveli, rasac gamovyofdi,<br />
wignebis SerCeva iyo. me da Cemi<br />
mewyvile ani didxans vfiqrobdiT<br />
wignebze, romelzedac moswavleebTan<br />
unda gvelaparaka.<br />
sakmaod rTulia iseTi literaturis<br />
SerCeva, Tavisuflad da<br />
laRad rom SegiZlia saubari<br />
merve-mecxre-meaTe klaselebTan.<br />
Zalian didi ganxilva gvqonda,<br />
ramdejerme vikamaTeT koordinatorTan,<br />
Tumca, sabolood, mainc<br />
SevjerdiT. aseve rTuli<br />
procesi iyo skolebis daTanxmeba.<br />
zogi martivad gvTanxmdeboda,<br />
zogi _ ara, zogs saerTod ar<br />
surda CvenTan saubari. rogorc<br />
vici, axlac mimdinareobs ramdenime<br />
skolasTan molaparakeba,<br />
romelic, imedi maqvs, Cvens<br />
sasargeblod dasruldeba.<br />
_ ras gaZlevs is, rom dRes<br />
skolis moswavleebs axleburad,<br />
an Seneburad aCveneb xolme ko-<br />
nkretuli wignebis Sinaarss?<br />
_ ramdenad axleburad vaCveneb,<br />
ar vici, amaze, albaT, TviTon<br />
moswavleebs unda hkiTxoT. es<br />
mxolod wignebze saubari araa,<br />
esaa erTi didi, cxovrebiseuli<br />
gakveTili, sadac me ar var maswavlebeli<br />
da arc isini arian<br />
moswavleebi. me vswavlob maTgan<br />
da isini swavloben Cemgan. vsaubrobT,<br />
rogorc Tanatoli<br />
adamianebi da vsaubrobT SezRudvebis<br />
gareSe.<br />
CemTvis yoveli axali leqcia<br />
aris axali furceli Cems cxovrebaSi,<br />
romelzedac Semdeg<br />
aucileblad davwer. iurTierTo<br />
Senze umcros adamianebTan da<br />
sworad miawodo esa Tu is mesiji,<br />
aris Zalian didi pasuxismgebloba.<br />
me es pasuxismgebloba<br />
aviRe da valdebuli var, bolomde<br />
mivsdio mas. ras maZlevs me es<br />
yvelaferi? _ urTierTobas.<br />
_ rogoria bavSvebis dain-<br />
tereseba? interaqcia?<br />
_ Tavidan didi daintereseba<br />
ar iyo, magram auditoriebi nelnela<br />
ivseba. yvelaze kargi da<br />
sasimovno ki isaa, rom sakmaod<br />
aqtiurad erTvebian saubarSi da<br />
TavianT azrs xmamaRla da gabedulad<br />
afiqsireben. xSirad ise<br />
xdeba, rom wigni, razedac vsaubrobT,<br />
wakiTxuli ar aqvT, magram<br />
mainc imden kiTxvas gisvamen, ise<br />
sainteresod saubroben, rom<br />
eWvi Segepareba amaSi. amas winaT<br />
palanikis „mebrZolTa klubze”<br />
vsaubrobdi da leqciis bolos<br />
erTma moswavlem miTxra, _ sazafxulo<br />
gegmebSi Sedioda es wigni,<br />
magram am saubris Semdeg gadmoiwevs,<br />
mgonio. Zalian mesiamovna<br />
es sityvebi. minda aRvniSno,<br />
rom Zalian kargi Taoba modis,<br />
TiTqmis yvelaferze rom Segi-<br />
Zlia esaubro.<br />
_ vin gifasebs yvelaze obieq-<br />
turad Sens leqciebs?<br />
_ Cemi da. sanam skolaSi waval,<br />
saxlSi gavdivar xolme repeticias<br />
da mas uwevs momisminos, an<br />
dawerili waikiTxos. meubneba,<br />
rom moswons, ar moswons da<br />
yvelafris Secvla miwevs, radgan<br />
Tu mas ar moswons, e. i. marTalia.<br />
_ zogadad, ras akeTeb yve-<br />
laze didi siamovnebiT?<br />
_ vkiTxulob leqciebs, vxumrob.<br />
ar vici, amaze ar mifiqria,<br />
Tu ra maniWebs yvelaze did siamovnebas.<br />
zogjer wera, zogjer<br />
kiTxva, zogjer musikis mosmena,<br />
zogjer ki saerTod araferi da<br />
erT adgilze wola (am ukanasknels<br />
yvelaze naklebad vaxerxeb<br />
gadatvirTuli grafikis gamo).<br />
yvelaze didi siamovnebiT,<br />
albaT, saWmels vakeTeb. Zalian<br />
miyvars samzareuloSi triali.<br />
aq, TbilisSi, yvelaferi mzamzareuli<br />
mxvdeba, magram sofelSi<br />
me miwevs kerZebis gakeTeba. xSir-<br />
maSa, anu<br />
ad vigoneb xolme raRacebs da<br />
rogorc amboben, arcTu ise<br />
cudad gamomdis saWmlis momzadeba.<br />
odesme kulinariulzec<br />
viswavli, albaT, es sfero<br />
Zalian mainteresebs.<br />
_ visTvis an risTvis ar<br />
genaneba raime?<br />
_ aravisTvis ar menaneba araferi.<br />
sxvisi bednierebisTvis yvelafers<br />
vakeTeb, miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom xSirad Sesabamis ukukav-<br />
Sirs ver viReb. mimaCnia, rom nebismier<br />
rames SeuZlia adamianis<br />
gabedniereba da rodesac es Sen<br />
SegiZlia, ratom ar unda dagenanos<br />
sxvisTvis amis gaziareba?!<br />
materialurad ki wignebis<br />
SesaZenad arasdros damnanebia<br />
fuli. Cemi biujetis udidesi<br />
nawilic wignebSi midis.<br />
_ ra aris yvelaze mniSvnelo-<br />
vani SenTvis (saqmeSi)?<br />
_ pasuxismgebloba. roca ra-<br />
Racas akeTeb, ar aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />
Seni saqmea Tu sxvisi, udidesi<br />
mniSvneloba aqvs pasuxismgeblobis<br />
grZnobas da mis dacvas.<br />
aseve mniSvnelovania, visTan er-<br />
Tad vakeTeb ama Tu im saqmes.<br />
usiamovno adamianebTan muSaobis<br />
gamocdilebac mqonia da imis<br />
Semdeg amasac vaqcev yuradRebas.<br />
_ ra aris yvelaze Rirebuli<br />
adamianSi? ras afaseb yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ simarTles. ar miyvars tyuili,<br />
maSin rodesac simarTle<br />
vici da rogorc wesi, simarTle<br />
yovelTvis vici. ar aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />
megobaria, Seyvarebuli<br />
Tu ucnobi, ar unda momatyuos.<br />
mgonia, rom arafers aqvs iseTi<br />
fasi, rogorc simarTles. adre<br />
Tu gvian, mainc gairkveva yvelaferi.<br />
adamianobac mosaZebnia adamianSi,<br />
radgan Zalian gaufasurda<br />
yvelaferi. banaluria, xom, cotaTi,<br />
rom axalgazrda gogo<br />
amaze saubrobs, magram es asea da<br />
Tu dafiqrdebiT, amas Tqvenc<br />
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mixvdebiT.<br />
_ iseTi gadawyvetileba Tu<br />
gaqvs, romelic ginania?<br />
_ jerjerobiT, ar mimiRia<br />
iseTi gadawyvetileba, romelic<br />
minania. SeiZleba, amas dro sWirdeba<br />
da mere gamoCndes.<br />
_ ra gaRizianebs yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ tyuili, gaugebari iumori,<br />
bilwsityvaoba da wiwibura. gansakuTrebiT<br />
maRizianebs msgavsi<br />
tipis SekiTxvebi: „amas ratom<br />
usmen, uyureb, kiTxulob?” da „es<br />
rogor ar gaqvs wakiTxuli, nanaxi,<br />
mosmenili?”.<br />
_ risTvis ar genaneba dro?<br />
_ seirnobisTvis, sayvarel<br />
adamianebTan erTad yofnisTvis<br />
da fexburTisTvis.<br />
_ Tavisufal dros ras<br />
akeTeb xolme?<br />
_ am bolo dros xSirad<br />
vseirnob. megobrebs vurekav da<br />
maTTan erTad fexiT davdivar.<br />
xSirad martosac miseirnia.<br />
Tavisufali dro iSviaTad maqvs<br />
xolme, magram vcdilob, sxvadasxva<br />
raRacebi vakeTo. vkiTxulob,<br />
vwer, vxatav, vukrav, deidaSvilis<br />
bavSvebi Camyavs ezoSi,<br />
megobrebs vwer, mokled, aqedan<br />
romelimes aucileblad vakeTeb,<br />
Tu Tavisufali dro maqvs.<br />
_ maqsimalisti xar (yvelafris<br />
umaRles donemde Sesrule-<br />
ba giyvars xolme? ginda, rom<br />
sul pirveli iyo Sens saqmeSi)?<br />
Tu xar/ar xar, raSi gamoixate-<br />
ba maqsimalistoba, an piriqiT?<br />
_ arasdros gamikeTebia rame<br />
imitom, rom Cems saqmeSi pirveli<br />
vyofiliyavi da arc arasdros<br />
gavakeTeb. vakeTeb imitom,<br />
rom msiamovnebs, vakeTeb imitom,<br />
rom ase minda, ase msurs.<br />
_ musikas usmen xolme (ras)?<br />
_ gamorCeuli bendi, momRerali,<br />
musikosi ar myavs, vusmen yvelafers,<br />
rac minda da roca minda.<br />
SeiZleba, erT dRes klasikur<br />
melodiebs vusmende, meore dRes<br />
mZime roks, mesame dRes qarTul<br />
bendebs da ase Semdeg.<br />
_ ras gaZlevs yoveli axali<br />
gaTenebuli dRe?<br />
_ kidev erTi dRis sicocxles.<br />
_ raze ocnebob?<br />
_ am bolo dros, mgoni,<br />
araferze, radgan meSinia, ar<br />
amixdes. ar arsebobs iseTi rame,<br />
risi gakeTebac adamians ar Seu-<br />
Zlia. meocnebe adamianebi ar miyvars.<br />
arc me var didad meocnebe,<br />
xumrobiT xSirad miTqvams, rom<br />
jekpotis mogebaze vocnebob,<br />
rom mere mediaholdingi gavxsna<br />
da Cemi megobrebi davasaqmo. mokled<br />
rom vTqva, ocnebebi ar<br />
maqvs, yvelaferi miRwevadia, Cemi<br />
azriT!<br />
_ Tu gyavs filmis, an wignis<br />
gmiri, romelsac ggonia, rom<br />
hgavxar.<br />
_ bevri meubneba, rom hermions<br />
vgavar „hari poteridan”, me<br />
ki ar mifiqria amaze, simarTle<br />
giTxra. aravisTvis mimismgavsebia<br />
Tavi.<br />
_ vin aris misabaZi magaliTi<br />
SenTvis? ratom?<br />
_ aravin. aravis vbaZav da arc<br />
minda, rom me mombaZos vinmem.<br />
yvela adamiani aris Camoyalibebuli,<br />
TviTmyofadi arseba,<br />
pirovneba, romelsac aqvs gansakuTrebuli<br />
„me” da ar hgavs<br />
aravis.<br />
_ rodis isveneb xolme da<br />
rogor?<br />
_ roca mZinavs, maSin visveneb.<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi, dasvenebisTvis<br />
ar mcalia. yovelTvis maqvs raRac<br />
saqme. ai, Zalian minda xolme,<br />
rom erTi dRe araferi vakeTo<br />
da davisveno, vuyuro filmebs,<br />
davlio yava, Cai, vWamo bevri,<br />
viwve sawolSi, viaro ugzo-ukvlod,<br />
magram rodesac saqme ar<br />
icdis, verafers akeTeb.<br />
_ vin genatreba yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ Cemi Tavi xuT wlamde. roca<br />
araferi mqonda sadardebeli,<br />
viyavi bednieri, laRi da ar vicodi,<br />
ra iyo cxovreba. ai, is<br />
mariami menatreba, aw ukve maSad<br />
wodebuli.<br />
_ ra aris SenTvis is saqme,<br />
rasac akeTeb?<br />
_ Cemi cxovreba. ver warmomidgenia<br />
verc erTi dRe imis gareSe,<br />
rasac vakeTeb. es SeiZleba,<br />
droebiTi iyos, magram Cemi cxovrebis<br />
nawili xom mainc iqneba?<br />
_ Seni azriT, Tavisufali<br />
xar?<br />
_ yoveli adamiani Taviseburad<br />
aRiqvams Tavisuflebas.<br />
mosiarule enciklopedia<br />
Cemi gadmosaxedidan, me Tavisufali<br />
adamiani var, magram bolomde<br />
Tavisufali aravinaa, arc<br />
me. gvinda Tu ar gvinda, raRac<br />
sakiTxebSi yvelani SezRuduli<br />
varT.<br />
_ ra aris Tavisufleba<br />
SenTvis?<br />
_ TiTqos yvelam viciT, rac<br />
aris, ratom arsebobs da ra gvinda<br />
misgan, magram, sabolood,<br />
mainc yvela vTanxmdebiT, rom is<br />
imdenad zogadia, imdenad konkretulic,<br />
imdenad abstraqtuli,<br />
rom amouwuravad SeiZleba<br />
masze saubari.<br />
Cven Tavisuflebi gavxdebiT<br />
imdenad, ramdenadac amis uflebas<br />
sakuTari Tavi mogvcems.<br />
viRacisTvis _ mruSoba, bilwi<br />
azrovneba, aRviraxsnili qmedeba<br />
da ukanonobaa... fanjarasac<br />
rom Caumtvrev kanonmorCil mezobels,<br />
esec Tavisuflebaa _<br />
oRond sxvisi gagebiT...<br />
masisTvis „Seni uflebebi mTavrdeba<br />
iq, sadac iwyeba sxvisi<br />
uflebebi” (radgan es popularulia)<br />
CemTvis _ gansazRvruli ar<br />
maqvs, samwuxarod, jer kidev, Tu<br />
ra aris Tavisufleba... megona,<br />
gansazRvrul asakSi mivxvdebodi<br />
(18)... asakma, amjerad, Tavisi ar<br />
qna... ar vvneb sxvebs, Tu ar mvneben<br />
me _ amas imitom vambob, rom<br />
darwmunebuli ar var Cems TavisuflebaSi.<br />
darwmunebuli var<br />
mxolod Cems movaleobebSi, romelic<br />
arasdros gadava sxvisaSi.<br />
iciT, rogor warmomidgenia<br />
Tavisufali samyaro?! _ adamianebi,<br />
romlebic buStebSi sxedan<br />
da ise moZraoben. es aris maTi<br />
Tavisufali samyaro. isini SezRudulebic<br />
arian, magram ara Zlierad...<br />
radgan roca sxvis buSt-<br />
Si iwyeben moZraobas, is skdeba.<br />
mTebSi buStebi ar aris _ iq<br />
isedac didi sivrce aqvT, magram<br />
CemTvis „mxolod” arc mTebSia<br />
Tavisufleba...<br />
Tavisufleba TiToeul CvenganSia,<br />
oRond gansxvavebuli,<br />
gansakuTrebuli...<br />
me minda samyaro, sadac buStebis<br />
ferebs Tavad avarCev!<br />
Tavisufleba Cemzea!<br />
_ cxovrebis ra etapze xar<br />
axla?<br />
_ swavlis (swavlis etapze<br />
yovelTvis viqnebi), sakuTari<br />
Tavis Ziebis, povnis etapze. jer<br />
mxold 21 wlis var da vcdilob,<br />
dRevadeli dRiT vicxovro.<br />
_ sakuTari Tavi napovni<br />
gaqvs?<br />
_ ara. mgonia, rom mTeli cxovreba<br />
sWirdeba sakuTari Tavis<br />
povnas, Tumca esec individualuria.<br />
me ki jer kidev ver vipove<br />
sakuTari Tavi. ver gaverkvie,<br />
ra minda, ratom minda, rogor<br />
minda. Tumca cota win waviwie<br />
am kuTxiT da uaxloesi wlebi<br />
vici, rac unda vakeTo. saku-<br />
Tari Tavis povna, sxvaTa Soris,<br />
Zalian saintereso procesia, Sei-<br />
Zleba cota mtkivneulic. odesme<br />
imedi maqvs, rom maSa Tavis<br />
Tavs ipovis sadme.<br />
_ raime misia gaqvs cxovreba-<br />
Si?<br />
_ amaze ar mifiqria, magram<br />
mgonia, rom yvela adamians aqvs<br />
raRac misia. SesaZloa, mec viyo<br />
erT-erTi maTgani. ra vici, aba,<br />
jer ver vgrZnob Tavs misiis Semsruleblad,<br />
Tumca Seusrulebeli<br />
misiac xom arsebobs?!<br />
_ ra aris is, risTvisac ibrZ-<br />
vi?<br />
_ vibrZvi ukeTesi momavlis<br />
Sesaqmnelad, ukeTesi samyaros<br />
Sesaqmnelad, ukeTesi cxovrebis<br />
Sesaqmnelad. rogor movaxerxeb<br />
am yvelafers, ar vici, magram amis<br />
misaRwevad yvelafers gavakeTeb,<br />
rac SemiZlia.<br />
_ Seni neba rom iyos, ras<br />
Secvlidi, an gamoasworebdi<br />
Sens cxovrebaSi, an qveyanaSi,<br />
zogadad?<br />
_ Cems cxovrebaSi arafers<br />
Sevcvlidi, radgan mainc ise moviqceodi,<br />
rogorc warsulSi. im<br />
usargeblo adamianebsac davtovebdi<br />
CemTan mravalferovnebisTvis,<br />
arc erT dakargul<br />
wuTs ar vinanebdi, radgan is,<br />
risi gaxsenebac SemiZlia, rogor<br />
SiZleba, dakarguli iyos?<br />
qveyanaSi ki ganaTlebis xarisxs,<br />
dones gamovasworebdi, an<br />
vecdebodi mainc. am sferoSi miwevs<br />
triali da gulze mxvdeba<br />
yoveli stereotipi, yoveli arakompetenturi<br />
leqtori (da damijereT,<br />
arian aseTebi), studenti.<br />
pirvel rigSi, ganaTlebis<br />
sistemas Cavibarebdi da iseT<br />
bazas Sevqmnidi, aqeT Camovidodnen<br />
saswavleblad ucxoeTidan.<br />
_ rogor fiqrob, gaqvs Tu<br />
ara warmatebis miRwevis Sansi<br />
dRevandel saqarTveloSi?<br />
_ warmatebis Sansi, raRac patara,<br />
yvelas aqvs, ubralod, sakmarisad<br />
ar vindomebT. mcirediT<br />
vkmayofildebiT da es gvgonia<br />
warmateba.<br />
vfiqrob, rom am saqarTvelo-<br />
Si, sadac ase mZafradaa gamjdari<br />
nepotizmi yvela sferoSi, Cemi<br />
adgili ar aris. aucileblad<br />
davbrundebi saqarTveloSi, magram<br />
manamde sxvagan vcdi beds,<br />
rom mere aq mqondes Sansi.<br />
_ gaqvs iseTi principi, rasac<br />
arasdros uRalateb?<br />
_ ki, arasdros SevWam wiwiburas.<br />
esaa Cemi cxovrebiseuli<br />
principi da ar vuRalateb adamians,<br />
Cems ndobas aravis davakargvineb.<br />
_ rom ara is, vinc axla xar,<br />
vin iqnebodi?<br />
_ rom ara is, vinc var, saer-<br />
Tod aravin viqnebodi. sxvanairi<br />
Cemi Tavi ver warmomidgenia.<br />
_ ra aris Seni samomavlo geg-<br />
ma?<br />
_ ramdenad sabWouradac unda<br />
JRerdes, mainc swavla, swavla da<br />
swavla.<br />
_ raze fiqrob xolme yve-<br />
laze xSirad?<br />
_ cxovrebis CaxlarTulobaze,<br />
megobrobasa da siyvarulze.<br />
_ visi imedi gaqvs cxovrebaSi?<br />
_ Cemi ojaxisa da sakuTari<br />
Tavis.<br />
_ ras moaqvs yvelaze didi<br />
simSvide SenTvis da rogor<br />
ggonia, sad aris xsna adamianeb-<br />
isTvis?<br />
_ adamianebisTvis ra aris xsna,<br />
ar vici, yvela TviTon gansazRvravs<br />
amas. CemTvis ki simSvide<br />
moaqvs bavSvebs da Zils.<br />
_ sayvareli gamonaTqvami,<br />
rasac yvelaze xSirad iyeneb<br />
xolme.<br />
_ ar maxsovs, sxvisi frazebiT<br />
arasdros vlaparakob xolme.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />
zogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ iyvnen adamianebi. yovel<br />
dRes Sexedon ise, TiTqos boloa<br />
da ar dakargon wuTebi erTmaneTTan<br />
Cxubsa da kamaTSi, endon<br />
erTmaneTs, uyvardeT erTmaneTi.<br />
rogorc palaniki ambobda, Cven<br />
Cveulebrivi adamianebi varT,<br />
amitom vecadoT, viyoT adamianebi<br />
da movkvdeT adamianebad.<br />
viyoT Cveulebrivebi.<br />
is kvlav agrZelebs skolebSi<br />
siaruls da axerxebs moswavleebis<br />
dafiqrebas bevr sakiTxze. am<br />
gogonaze gabriel garsia markesis<br />
wignis saTauri maxsendeba:<br />
„icxovre, rom mohyve”. ar vici<br />
ratom, magram mgonia, rom bevrs<br />
moyveba da misi mosmena Zalian<br />
sasiamovno iqneba.<br />
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CempionTa liga usensaciod<br />
_ finali logikuri iqneba<br />
_ finali logikuri iqneba<br />
rogorc mosalodneli iyo, `iuventusma~<br />
da `realma~ CempionTa<br />
ligis pirvel naxevarfinalur matCebSi<br />
miRweuli upiratesoba SeinarCunes<br />
da finalSi gasvla Se-<br />
Zles. 3 ivniss, kardifis `mileniumze~,<br />
erTmaneTis pirispir evropis<br />
ori saukeTeso klubi wardgeba,<br />
romlebmac finalSi TamaSis pativi<br />
unaklosTan miaxloebuli fexburTiT<br />
daimsaxures.<br />
finalis Sesaxeb ufro vrclad<br />
maSin visaubroT, sezonis umTavresi<br />
matCi rom moaxlovdeba, manamde<br />
ki mokled gavixsenoT, ra moxda<br />
gasul samSabaT-oTxSabaTs turinis<br />
`iuventus sTediumsa~ da madridis<br />
`visente kalderonze~.<br />
`iuventusis~ gavardna fantastikis<br />
sferodan ufro iyo, sakiTxavi<br />
mxolod is gaxldaT, SeZlebda<br />
Tu ara `monako~ `beberi qalbatonis~<br />
mSrali seriis darRvevas –<br />
CempionTa ligis plei ofSi `iuves~<br />
goli ar hqonda gaSvebuli? seria<br />
`monakos~ gamorCeulma figuram,<br />
amomavalma varskvlavma, 18 wlis<br />
kilian mbapem Sewyvita, im drois-<br />
Tvis ki maspinZlebs Tavisi saqme<br />
ukve gakeTebuli hqondaT.<br />
mario manjukiCisa da daniel<br />
alveSis golebiT masimiliano alegris<br />
gundma yvela kiTxvis niSani<br />
gaaqro. realurad, `iuventusma~<br />
finalisken didi nabiji meoTxedfinalSi<br />
`barselonas~ ganadgurebiT<br />
gadadga. swored im orma matCma<br />
dagvanaxa turinelTa realuri<br />
Zala. `monakosa~ da mis portugaliel<br />
Tavkac leonardu Jardims ki<br />
qebaTaqeba – am axalgazrdulma<br />
gundma laRi da sanaxaobrivi fexburTiT<br />
dagvamaxsovra Tavi da araerTi<br />
axali saxe warmoaCina, romlebmac<br />
axlo momavalSi unda gaibrwyinon.<br />
SegaxsenebT: `monakom~<br />
plei ofSi gzidan `manCester siti~<br />
da `dortmundi~ Camoicila.<br />
TiTqos yvelaferi garkveuli<br />
iyo madridul derbiSic, magram<br />
matCis sawyisi wuTebi samefo klubis<br />
fanebisTvis Sokismomgvreli<br />
aRmoCnda. `reals~ jer saul nigesma<br />
gautana, oTxiode wuTSi antuan<br />
grizmanma penaltiT dalaSqra metoqis<br />
kari da saerTo angariSis<br />
gaTanabrebamde `atletikos~ erTi<br />
goliRa aklda.<br />
`reali~ am sezonSi araerTxel<br />
aRmoCnda aseT kritikul situaciaSi<br />
da misgan Tavis daRweva TiTqmis<br />
yovel jerze SeZlo. stumrebi<br />
ar aRelvebulan, TamaSis sadaveebi<br />
meTodurad igdes xelT da<br />
Sedegic miiRes – taimis bolos<br />
qarim benzemam gaibrwyina, sam meurves<br />
dausxlta da toni krooss<br />
upasa. germanelis dartyma `atletikos~<br />
kiperma ian oblakma moigeria,<br />
Tumca damatebaze yvelas iskom<br />
daaswro da intrigebi mokla.<br />
meore taimidan gasaxsenebeli<br />
bevric araferia. brZola ki iyo,<br />
magram orive gundis fexburTelebs<br />
mSvenivrad esmodaT, rom finalistis<br />
beds veRaraferi Secvlida.<br />
`reali~ zedized meored gavida<br />
CempionTa ligis finalSi da<br />
Sansiaqvs, pirveli gundigaxdes,<br />
romelic uprestiJules evropul<br />
saklubo turnirs zedized meored<br />
moigebs.<br />
`atletikom~ ki `visente kalderonze~<br />
bolo saerTaSoriso Sexvedra<br />
Caatara – sezonis dasrulebisTanave<br />
am arenas daangreven,<br />
madriduli klubi ki axal sarbielze<br />
gadava.<br />
saqmes iseTi piri uCans, rom<br />
`atletiko~ stadionTan erTad,<br />
mwvrTnelsac daemSvidobeba. diego<br />
simeone, savaraudod, sxva samsaxurs<br />
miaSurebs, riTac, albaT,<br />
`aTletebis~ es Cinebuli wlebic<br />
dasruldeba.<br />
ar gadavaWarbebT, Tuki vityviT,<br />
rom simeonem `atletikoSi~<br />
namdvili epoqa Seqmna. marTalia, es<br />
oqros wlebi CempionTa ligis mogebiT<br />
ver dagvirgvinda, magram isic<br />
didi saqmea, rom Sida sarbielze<br />
`realsa~ da `barselonas~ Rirseuli<br />
konkurenti gamouCnda, evropul<br />
arenaze ki `atletiko~ namdvil<br />
grandad Camoyalibda, romelmac am<br />
oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi yvelasajoba,<br />
`realis~ garda.<br />
samefo klubi `atletikosa~ da<br />
simeones namdvil bediswerad eqcaT.<br />
SegaxsenebT, 2014 da 2016 wleb-<br />
Si TeTr-wiTlebi samefo klubTan<br />
CempionTa ligis finalSi damarcxdnen,<br />
2015 wels meoTxedfinal-<br />
Si, axla ki – naxevarfinalSi.<br />
simeone `atletikos~ 2011 wlidan<br />
wvrTnis da am periodis ganmavlobaSi<br />
misi xelmZRvanelobiT<br />
klubma CempionTa ligis garda,<br />
yvela SesaZlo tituli moigo –<br />
espaneTis Cempionati, Tasi da superTasi,<br />
evropa liga da evropis<br />
superTasi.<br />
CempionTa liga.<br />
naxevarfinali.<br />
sapasuxo matCebi<br />
iuventusi (italia) –<br />
monako (safrangeTi) 2:1<br />
(pirveli matCi: 2:0)<br />
golebi: 1:0 manjukiCi (33), 2:0<br />
dani alveSi (44), 2:1 mbape (69)<br />
atletiko (espaneTi) –<br />
reali (espaneTi) 2:1<br />
(pirveli matCi: 0:3)<br />
golebi: 1:0 sauli (12), 2:0 grizmani<br />
(16. pen.), 2:1 isko (42)<br />
38<br />
finali SvedeTSi zlatanis gareSe<br />
amsterdamis `aiaqsma~ da `manCester iunaitedma~<br />
evropa ligis pirvel naxevarfinalur SexvedrebSi<br />
damajereblad imarjves da TiTqos final-<br />
Si Sebijeba ar unda gasWirvebodaT, magram miz-<br />
nis misaRwevad orives gvariani jafa daadga.<br />
mas Semdeg, rac `aiaqsi~ safrangeTSi dawinaurda,<br />
`lionis~ bedi ukve gadawyvetili Canda, magram<br />
taimis miwuruls aleqsandr lakazetma dub-<br />
li Seasrula da Tavisianebs Sansi SeunarCuna.<br />
Tumca meore taimSi maspinZlebma erTze meti ve-<br />
Rar gaitanes da finalis sagzuri amsterdame-<br />
lebma moipoves.<br />
vigoSi gamarjvebis Semdeg `manCester iunaiteds~<br />
TiTqos aRaraferi unda gasWirveboda, magram<br />
sakadro problemebiT damZimebulma `wiTel-<br />
ma eSmakebma~ sakuTari fanebi matCis miwuruls<br />
Zalian anerviules. `seltam~ angariSi gaaTanabra,<br />
magram Joze mourinios gundma gaZlo da meore<br />
sabediswero goli aRar gauSva.<br />
finali 24 maiss, SvedeTis dedaqalaq stokholmSi,<br />
`frends arenaze~ gaimarTeba. am stadionze<br />
zlatan ibrahimoviCis Zegli dgas. didebuli<br />
iqneboda, am arenaze Tavad zlatansac eTa-<br />
maSa finali, magram, samwuxarod, es SeuZlebelia<br />
– veterani Svedi mZimedaa travmirebuli da sam-<br />
SobloSi `manius~ mxolod saqomagod Tu Cahyve-<br />
ba.<br />
evropa liga. naxevarfinali. sapasuxo matCebi<br />
lioni (safrangeTi) – aiaqsi (holandia) 3:1<br />
(pirveli matCi: 1:4)<br />
golebi: 0:1 dolbergi (27), 1:1 lakazeti (45.<br />
pen.), 2:1 lakazeti (45), 3:1 gezali (81)<br />
manCester iunaitedi (inglisi) – selta (espan-<br />
eTi) 1:1 (pirveli matCi: 1:0)<br />
golebi: 1:0 felaini (17), 1:1 ronkalia (85)<br />
gverdi moamzada levan janezaSvilma<br />
wyalburTelebi<br />
evropis Cempionatze<br />
saqarTvelos 17-wlamdel wyalburTelTa nakrebi evropis Cempionatis<br />
finalur etapze gavida. SesarCevi jgufis TamaSebs Tbili-<br />
sis sportulma kompleqsma `olimpikma~ umaspinZla.<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebma turniri warmatebiT Caatara da aspro-<br />
centiani Sedegi aCvena. revaz ComaxiZis mier gawvrTnilma gundma<br />
daamarcxa Sveicaria (10:3), kviprosi (26:4) da safrangeTi (7:1).<br />
bolo turSi saqarTvelos nakrebma CexeTsac damajereblad, 10:3<br />
sZlia da finaluri etapis sagzuri gainaRda. evropis Cempionats<br />
seqtemberSi malta umaspinZlebs.<br />
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istoriuli gamarjveba<br />
- goris jiqi saqarTvelos Cempionia<br />
`mixeil mesxze~ saqarTvelos<br />
saragbo Cempionatis finaluri<br />
matCi gaimarTa, sadac goris `jiqma~<br />
`baTums~ daZabul brZolaSi<br />
28:22 sZlia da arsebobis istoria-<br />
Si pirvelad moipova qveynis Cempionis<br />
tituli.<br />
tribunaze mravlad Seikribnen<br />
orive gundis gulSematkivrebi,<br />
ramac matCs damatebiTi elferi<br />
SesZina da TamaSi namdvil zeimad<br />
iqca.<br />
matCis debiuti baTumelebis<br />
iyo. zRvispirelebma metoqis SerkinebaSi<br />
jarima moipoves da baxva<br />
kobaxiZem 3 qulad gardasaxa. `jiqis~<br />
damrtymelma ramaz xaraziSvilma<br />
40 metridan gatanili jarimiT<br />
maleve upasuxa da wonasworoba<br />
aRadgina. 28-e wuTze xaraziSvilma<br />
50 metridan sakuTari gundi<br />
daawinaura, sam wuTSi kobaxiZem<br />
aseve Soreuli dartymiT upasuxa,<br />
taimis miwuruls ki baTumeli jondi<br />
kortava sinbiniT daisaja da<br />
es gadamwyveti aRmoCnda.<br />
beqa mamrikiSvilma Sexvedris<br />
pirveli lelo daamiwa, xolo xaraziSvilma<br />
gardasaxa.<br />
meore taimi gorelebma aqtiurad<br />
daiwyes, metobis gamoyeneba<br />
scades da meore cdaze mizans miaRwies.<br />
`jiqma~ jarima swrafad<br />
gaaTamaSa da burTi flangebze orjer<br />
CaaTamaSa, ris Semdegac leloSi<br />
`jiqis~ kapitani guram Sengelia<br />
Sevida. gardasaxva arazusti.<br />
59-e wuTze `baTumis~ mier derefnis<br />
mogebis Semdeg molSi sami<br />
Semtevi ukanaxazelic CaerTo da<br />
kobaxiZem lelo Tavadve gardasaxa.<br />
momdevno 5 wuTSi gundebma jarimebi<br />
gacvales, 67-e wuTze ki<br />
`jiqma~ kidev erTi lelo gaitana:<br />
mravalfaziani Seteva maT sakuTari<br />
naxevridan daiwyes, etapobrivad<br />
metoqis 22-s uwies, iq xaraziSvili<br />
mboWavs erTi-erTze dausxlta<br />
da Zelebsukan dadebuli lelo<br />
Tavadve gardasaxa. daskvniT 10<br />
wuTSi `baTumma~ ibrZola, kobaxiZem<br />
ori jarimiT CamorCena 6 qulamde<br />
daiyvana, magram gadamwyveti<br />
Seteva veRar Sedga da `jiqma~<br />
28:22 gaimarjva, riTac Tavisi gulSematkivari<br />
uzomod gaaxara.<br />
gorelebma `didi 10 toiotas~<br />
finalis mogebiT damatebiT 70<br />
aTasic moiges, xolo `baTums~ sponsorisgan<br />
30 aTasi ergo.<br />
`vulocav am axalgazrda klubs<br />
aseT did warmatebas da yvelas,<br />
visac Cveni gundis maisuriT Tundac<br />
erTxel mainc uTamaSia. minda<br />
movigono is gardacvlili adamianebi,<br />
romlebic sicocxleSi mxar-<br />
Si gvedgnen. TamaSi daZabuli gamodga.<br />
Tavi gamoucdelobam iCina<br />
da mxolod taimis miwuruls davlagdiT.<br />
meore taimSi ukeT viTamaSeT.<br />
rodesac burTze kontroli<br />
davamyareT upiratesoba xelT vigdeT<br />
da es kargad gamoviyeneT. aqcenti<br />
gavakeTeT metoqis sinbinze<br />
da am periodSi ori lelo davdeT.<br />
`baTumi~ kargi gundia, magram mas<br />
dRes raRac detalebSi vajobeT”,_<br />
ganacxada namatCevs `jiqis~ mTavarma<br />
mwvrTnelma, paliko jimSelaZem.<br />
jiqi gori 28:22 baTumi<br />
jiqi: kiknaZe (svaniZe 51), biwaZe,<br />
jinjixaZe, samxaraZe (xuciSvili<br />
68), xaraziSvili, niniZe, zabaxiZe<br />
(broZeli 48), oragveliZe (kakovini<br />
64), mamrikiSvili (suTiZe 55-75),<br />
donaZe (gurgenaZe 64), gogoliZe,<br />
trapaiZe, Sengelia^(kap), mWedliSvili,<br />
suxaSvili (didebuliZe 71)<br />
mwvrTneli: paliko jimSelaZe<br />
baTumi: kobaxiZe, trapaiZe, gogitiZe<br />
(niniZe 52), gabroSvili, tu-<br />
CaSvili (bebiaSvili 46), soxaZe^(kap)<br />
(jabniZe 68), TuTberiZe, erisTavi,<br />
matkava (Tagauri 62), pataraia<br />
(baliaSvili 62), aliqaZe, miqaZe (cxadaZe<br />
45), kortava (amiranaSvili<br />
48), futkaraZe (kvantiZe 64), TxilaiSvili<br />
mwvrTneli: irakli niniZe<br />
faCuliam konferenciis finalSi gaibrwyina<br />
amerikis nacionalur sakalaTburTo asocia-<br />
ciaSi konferenciebis finaluri seriebi daiwyo.<br />
zaza faCulias `golden steit voriorzi~ dasav-<br />
leT konferenciis finalSi `san antonio spurzs~<br />
upirispirdeba. finaluri seriis pirveli matCi<br />
`golden steitis~ moedanze gaimarTa da faCulias<br />
gundma dramatul brZolaSi 113:111 gaimarjva.<br />
qarTveli centri, tradiciulad, sastarto<br />
xuTeulSi iyo da plei ofis wina matCebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
moedanze sakmaod bevri, 26 wuTi gaat-<br />
ara. zazam Seucvlelad iTamaSa me-3 meoTxedi,<br />
roca oklendelebma matCis gadasarCeni rbola 25-<br />
quliani CamorCenidan wamoiwyes da bolo wamebze<br />
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gasolis angariSze 16 wuTSi mxolod 5 qula da-<br />
sezons `golden steiti~ da zaza.<br />
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