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interesebs ar emsaxureba~<br />
ukideblobis mTel periodSi. qarTuli<br />
mxare rac met daTmobaze<br />
midioda, miT ufro uaresdeboda<br />
Cveni mdgomareoba yvela strategiul<br />
procesSi.<br />
_ am sakiTxSi qarTuli mxaris<br />
qmediTi nabijebi rogori SeiZle-<br />
boda yofiliyo?<br />
_ aq mTavari sakiTxi isaa, rom<br />
Cven mravalnabijiani strategia<br />
unda gvqondes: Tu ras vakeTebT;<br />
aris Tu ara Sesabamisi reagireba<br />
Cveni partniori qveynebis mxridan;<br />
Sesabamisi gancxadebebi saerTa-<br />
Soriso instituciebis mxridan;<br />
gaeros uSiSroebis sabWoze aucileblad<br />
unda dadges sakiTxi, rac<br />
axla cxinvalis regionSi xdeba.<br />
yvela am TemasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
saerTaSoriso asparezi maqsimalurad<br />
unda gamoviyenoT.<br />
sxva viTarebaSi viRac elCis vi-<br />
RacasTan romeliRac qveyanaSi<br />
Sexvedra da misTvis raRacis Tqma,<br />
msgavsi tipis samuSaoebi, absoluturad<br />
uSedegoa. axla saqarTvelo<br />
panikas unda texdes imasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rac cxinvalis regionSi<br />
xdeba. ruseTma Zalian mkafio<br />
gzavnili unda miiRos saerTa-<br />
Soriso sazogadoebis mxridan,<br />
rom ara mxolod tatunaSvili unda<br />
gadmoasvenon, aramed xeli ai-<br />
Ron agresiaze, romelic grZeldeba.<br />
Tqveni azriT, rodesac premieris<br />
am werils waikiTxavda, vTqvaT,<br />
evrokavSiris romelime wevri<br />
qveyana an Cveni sxva partniori, ra<br />
mosazreba gauCndebodaT? yvela<br />
ifiqrebda, rom saqarTvelo raRac<br />
sxvas apirebs, ara CvenTan erTad,<br />
aramed Tavisi raRac gegma da ganrigi<br />
aqvs am pirobebSi. realurad,<br />
es maTSi kiTxvis niSnebs gamoiwvevda.<br />
Tu xelisuflebas politikuri<br />
pasuxismgeblobis eSinia, rom kidev<br />
ufro gaaaqtiuros saerTaSoriso<br />
asparezze Cveni moqmedebebi, opoziciamac<br />
araerTxel SevTavazeT,<br />
rom es aris Tema, sadac SegviZlia<br />
politikuri gansxvavebebi daviviwyoT<br />
da am strategiis SemuSavebaSi<br />
monawileoba miviRoT. saerTo<br />
procesi iyos am strategiis Camoyalibeba,<br />
rom am yvelaferTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
maT Soris politikuri<br />
pasuxismgebloba gadanawildes.<br />
magram, samwuxarod, „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” am process maqsimalurad<br />
xuravs, radgan, rogorc Cans, erTs<br />
ambobs da, realurad, meore<br />
strategia aqvs.<br />
_ aSS-s elCis, ian kelis gancx-<br />
adebiT: „mniSvnelovania mkafio<br />
mesijebi gqondeT _ Tu Tqven ar<br />
gansazRvravT narativs Tqveni<br />
qveynisTvis, amas vinme sxva Crdi-<br />
loeTiT gansazRvravs”...<br />
maT Soris, mianiSnebs im re-<br />
alur suraTze, rasac amerikuli<br />
mxare saqarTveloSi xedavs. orazrovani<br />
gancxadebebi, rom dasavleTTan<br />
integracia minda da, meore<br />
mxriv, aseTi tipis gancxadebebi,<br />
rac premier-ministrma gaakeTa,<br />
rasakvirvelia, absolutur-<br />
ad yvelaSi gaugebrobas iwvevs.<br />
ras niSnavs es yvelaferi? xom ar<br />
icvala sagareo kursi qveyanam an<br />
am cvlilebis simptomebi xom ar<br />
aris?<br />
`rogorc Cans, qarTuli mxaris pozicia imdenad<br />
gaufasurebulia, rom arafrad agdeben msgavs gancxadebebs. aseve<br />
Cans, ruseTisTvis es arasakmarisia da meti undaT. es `meti~ ra<br />
aris, amaze, ubralod, SegviZlia vivaraudoT. gacilebiT meti<br />
surT, magram sanacvlod saqarTvelo rom rames miiRebs, amis<br />
gamocdileba ukve gvaqvs damoukideblobis mTel periodSi.<br />
qarTuli mxare rac met daTmobaze midioda, miT ufro<br />
uaresdeboda Cveni mdgomareoba yvela strategiul procesSi~<br />
_ vimeoreb, Sexvedrebi mqonda<br />
saxelmwifo departamentSi da am<br />
gancxadebidan da poziciebidan gamomdinare<br />
maTSic seriozuli dabneulobaa.<br />
kargad gesmiT, amerikis<br />
elCi arasodes akeTebs gancxadebas,<br />
seriozuli gaTvlisa da safrTxis<br />
arsebobis gareSe.<br />
_ saprezidento arCevnebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT Tqveni politikuri<br />
gaerTianebis pozicia rogoria?<br />
_ erT rameze SevTanxmdeT:<br />
„qarTul ocnebas” rom saqarTveloSi<br />
sul ufro naklebi mxardam-<br />
Weri hyavs, es faqtia, magram imisTvis,<br />
rom davamarcxoT, aucilebelia<br />
prodasavluri Zalebis konsolidacia,<br />
rom es brZola, saarCevno<br />
maraToni, erTi erTze iyos.<br />
es Zalian mniSvnelovania, Tu<br />
Cven realurad gvinda, rom SeCerdes<br />
instituciebis CamoSlis procesi,<br />
romelic dRes qveyanaSi midis<br />
da razec absoluturad yvela<br />
Tanxmdeba. naxeT 15 amerikuli<br />
sadazvervo-analitikuri samsaxuris<br />
gancxadeba, romlebic Zalian<br />
kargad xedaven process, Tu rac<br />
xdeba qveyanaSi.<br />
amis SeCerebisTvis aucilebelia,<br />
rom saprezidento arCevneb-<br />
Si prodasavlurma opoziciurma<br />
gaerTianebam gaimarjvos sakuTari<br />
kandidatiT da vfiqrob, es mxolod<br />
gaerTianebuli ZalebiT<br />
aris SesaZlebeli.<br />
sxva danarCeni, pirdapir getyviT,<br />
rom meore turebze saubari<br />
da raRac msgavsi zRaprebi, xelisuflebis<br />
TamaSia.<br />
samwuxarod, saqarTveloSi ase<br />
Camoyalibda, _ gvyavs bevri politikuri<br />
partia da Cems gancxadebaSi<br />
eseni sam jgufad davyavi: aq<br />
aris pirveli jgufis politikuri<br />
N9 (230) 20.03-26.03.2018 w.<br />
partiebi, romlebic xelisuflebasTan<br />
TanamSromloben da absoluturad<br />
awyobT arsebuli status<br />
kvo. Tu aseT jgufebs saku-<br />
Tari saxeli ar davarqviT, verc<br />
erT SemTxvevaSi sasurvel Sedegze<br />
ver gavalT, radgan erT wyal-<br />
Si ixarSeba amis gamo amomrCevlebis<br />
TvalSi sruliad opozicia;<br />
meore jgufi nihilizmSi myofi<br />
politikuri partiebia, romlebic<br />
marTlac statistis rolSi darCnen.<br />
mudmivad fiqroben, miiRon Tu<br />
ara saarCevno an sxva politikur<br />
aqtivobebSi monawileoba. amomrCeveli<br />
fiqrobs, rom es partiebi<br />
jer kidev arseboben, magram<br />
realoba sxva aris, faqtia, rom es<br />
Zalebi arseboba-ararsebobis zRvarze<br />
imyofebian;<br />
mesame is politikuri partiebi<br />
arian, romlebic fiqroben, rom xelisufleba<br />
Sesacvlelia, es SesaZlebelia<br />
da gaerTianebul opoziciur<br />
fronts amis Zalebi yvela<br />
SemTxvevaSi eqneba. aqve mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom es gaerTianeba unda<br />
moxdes ideebis garSemo. es axali<br />
ganrigi, rac saqarTvelos SeuZlia<br />
hqondes, SesamuSavebelia da aseT<br />
SemTxvevaSi warmateba gardauvalia.<br />
axla, rac Seexeba vin sad moiazrebs<br />
sakuTar Tavs, vfiqrob, rom<br />
amas uaxloes periodSi davinaxavT.<br />
arian am gaerTianebis CamSlelebi,<br />
riTac TavisTavad xelisuflebis<br />
TamaSs TamaSoben. magaliTad, erTerTi<br />
politikuri Zala sul meore<br />
turze saubrobs. sasacilo aq<br />
iciT, ra aris? 2016 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebSi maT fraqciaSi<br />
Semavalma deputatebma (romelTa<br />
umravlesoba maJoritarad iyrida<br />
kenWs), meore turSi monawileobaze<br />
uari ganacxades, anu meore turSi<br />
brZolis win kapitulacia gamoacxades<br />
„qarTul ocnebasTan”<br />
mimarTebiT.<br />
amitom aRniSnuli jgufidan<br />
saubari, rom meore turi gaer-<br />
Tianebis safuZvelia da a. S. yvelas<br />
kargad esmis, rom es warmoudgeneli<br />
zRaparia.<br />
_ „ocnebis” SesaZlo saprezidento<br />
kandidatebze ra SegiZli-<br />
aT TqvaT?<br />
_ rogorc vici, erTi Tea wulukianis<br />
kandidatura gaJRerda<br />
da meore salome zurabiSvilia.<br />
Cemi azriT, wulukianis kandidaturas<br />
ar daayeneben, radgan „ocnebaSi”<br />
erT-erTi yvelaze negatiuri<br />
imijis mqone figuraa. meore,<br />
gaxsovT, rom sasamarTlo reformis<br />
e. w. talRebs igive wulukiani<br />
akeTebda, romelmac sruli kraxi<br />
ganicada. xedavT, rom sasamarTlo<br />
xelisuflebaSi mdgomareoba kidev<br />
ufro gauaresda. uvadod niSnaven<br />
ukve yvelaze angaJirebul mosamarTleebs,<br />
aReb-micemoba, pirdapiri<br />
korufciaa sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi.<br />
„obSiakebs” agroveben,<br />
situacia mTlianad anklavizirebulia,<br />
araferi Sansi aRar darCa,<br />
rom vinmem SeiZleba samarTliani<br />
gadawyvetileba miiRos.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, naklebad<br />
mgonia SesaZlebeli, wulukianis<br />
kandidatura daayenon.<br />
rac Seexeba salome zurabiSvils,<br />
SeiZleba es Tema ganvixiloT.<br />
SeiZleba amis nawili iyo, rom is<br />
Tavis droze damoukidebel ma-<br />
Joritar kandidatad daasaxeles<br />
arCevnebSi. Tumca salome zurabiSvili<br />
ar aris is kandidatura, romelic<br />
mosaxleobis did mxardaWeras<br />
miiRebs iqidan gamomdinare,<br />
rom misi midgomebi sakmaod moZvelebulia.<br />
axla, franguli gamocdilebidan<br />
gamomdinare, sagareo<br />
ministris rolSic vnaxeT, sadac<br />
Zalian bevri xarvezi iyo. amitom<br />
Zalian susti kandidaturaa da is<br />
figura ar aris, romelic SeiZleba<br />
Zlieri prezidenti iyos da ra-<br />
Racnairi Semakavebeli roli Seasrulos<br />
instituciebis rRvevisa da<br />
CamoSlis pirobebSi.<br />
vfiqrob, rom am kandidatebis<br />
SerCevis dros „ocneba” seriozul<br />
krizisSia. yvela aqtiur saxes negatiuri<br />
imiji da seriozuli problemebi<br />
aqvs, aRniSnuli imijidan<br />
gamomdinare. am arCevnebSi Zlieri<br />
kandidatis moZieba Zalian gauWirdebaT.<br />
isev da isev, aq mTavari amocanaa,<br />
opozicia moaxerxebs Tu ara<br />
gaerTianebas, mZlavri saerTo poziciis<br />
Camoyalibebas am arCevnebze.<br />
Tu opoziciam es moaxerxa,<br />
Cemi azriT „qarTuli ocnebis” damarcxeba<br />
gardauvalia am saprezidento<br />
arCevnebze.<br />
_ rogoria Tqveneuli „war-<br />
matebis qarTuli modeli?”<br />
_ vfiqrob, rom qveyanaSi prodasavluri<br />
Zalebi unda gaerTiandnen,<br />
azrTa sxvadasxvaobis dros<br />
ucileblad praimeris meqanizmi<br />
unda iqnes gamoyenebuli, radgan<br />
es erTaderTi swori da demokratiuli<br />
meqanizmia, romliTac es<br />
azrTa sxvadasxvaoba SeiZleba aRmoifxvras.<br />
es gaerTianeba ideis garSemo<br />
unda moxdes da es idea Cem-<br />
Tvis warmatebis qarTuli modelis<br />
Seqmnaa saqarTveloSi. vfiqrob,<br />
rom dRevandeli gamocdilebisa<br />
da inteleqtualuri potencialidan<br />
gamomdinare, Cven namdvilad<br />
SegviZlia. es maqsimalurad met<br />
adamians unda gavuziaroT saqar-<br />
TveloSi da es aris xsna gaWirvebidan<br />
da problemebidan.<br />
ra Seexeba politikur diskusias,<br />
imedi maqvs, rom ufro meti<br />
politikuri partia gaerTianebis<br />
momxre iqneba. Tqven iciT, rom Cven<br />
am gaerTianebaze ukve wlebia, vsaubrobT.<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis<br />
drosac swored am strategias<br />
vTavazobdiT. samwuxarod, ma-<br />
Sin bevrma xeli gvkra da Tqva, rom<br />
meore turSi vifiqrebT erTmane-<br />
Tis mxardaWerazeo, Tumca Tqven<br />
TviTon dainaxeT, rom aman nulovani<br />
Sedegi misca zogadad saxelmwifos<br />
da Semgom ukve politikur<br />
partiebs.<br />
dRes amis momxre ufro metia,<br />
resursebi namdvilad aris, optimisturad<br />
darwmunebuli var, rom,<br />
adre Tu gvian, es aucileblad<br />
moxdeba.<br />
aseve, erTia gaerTianeba da meore<br />
is, rom qveyanas aucileblad<br />
axali politikuri klasi sWirdeba.<br />
pirdapir getyviT, rom politikuri<br />
klasi daZvelda. Zalian<br />
magari axali Taobaa, ara marto axalgazrdebi,<br />
aramed yvela Taobis,<br />
magram axali adamianebi arian, romlebsac<br />
Zalian aqtiuri da pozitiuri<br />
rolis Sesruleba SeuZliaT<br />
politikur procesebSi da imedi<br />
maqvs, rom am realobas aucileblad<br />
SevcvliT.<br />
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