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upirobo mzaobas acxadebs~

yvela gadawyvetileba, pirdapir

Tu iribad, mainc biZina ivaniSvilTan

aris dakavSirebuli da

mainc mis politikur gemovnebasTan

Tu mis msoflmxedvelobasTan

asocirdeba, rac Zalian

mZimed daujda saqarTvelos am

cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi.

_ prezidentis rezidenciaSi

Sarl miSelTan gamarTuli Sexvedridan

ramdenime saaTSi opoz-

iciurma partiebma da samoqalaqo

aqtivistebma daiwyes parlamentis

piketireba. amasTan dakav-

SirebiT xelisuflebis warmomad-

genlebma opoziciisken gaiSvires

TiTi, rom igi destruqciulad

iqceoda, miuxedavad imisa, rom

garkveuli komunikacia Sedga xe-

lisuflebasa da opozicias

Soris miSelTan Sexvedris dros.

aqedan gamomdinare, fiqrobT Tu

ara, rom piketirebis mcdelobiT

xelisuflebas TiTis gaSveris sa-

babi mieciT?

_ es ambavi TiTidan gamowovilia,

es ar iyo Senobis blokireba.

deputatebi manqanebiT Tavisuflad

Sediodnen parlamentis

ezoSi, ubralod, iyo garkveuli

SeZaxilebi Sesvlis dros. arc

erT deputats ar Seqmnia parlamentSi

Sesvlis problema. roca

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma

meore dRes moindomes mizezad

piketis Temis gamoyeneba, Tavadve

aiWrnen winadadebaSi, radgan amave

dros gamoacxades, rom maTTvis

wina dRes SeTanxmebuli sakiTxebic

mouRebelia da wiTeli xazebi

arsebobso. maT undodaT pasuxismgeblobisgan

gamoZroma da

raRacebi Tqves. rodesac batoni

pavilionisi iyo Camosuli da misi

TxovniT rodesac opoziciam 25

Tebervlis aqciaze vTqviT uari,

yvelas gvaxsovs, ra gancxadebebi

gaakeTes „qarTuli ocnebis” warmomadgenlebma,

rom opozicia

xalxs ver krebs da amitom viTom

saerTaSoriso partniors gadaabrales

aqciis gauqmebao. opozicias

3 marts gvqonda Sekreba da

vTqviT, rom gavagrZelebT aqciebs,

kvlav protestis formas gamoviyenebT,

magram ar iqneba saxelisuflebo

Senobebis piketireba,

raTa maT ar mivceT molaparakebis

CaSlis sababi. amdenad, „qarTuli

ocneba” ase martivad ver

gamoZvreba situaciidan. Zalian

seriozuli procesia dawyebuli,

sruliad gansxvavebul etapzea

realoba, rodesac aseTi maRali

rangis saerTaSoriso warmomadgenloba

erTveba da vfiqrob,

didi ugunureba iqneba, rom

„qarTulma ocnebam” procesis CaSlis

mcdeloba gaagrZelos.

_ parlamentis win opoziciuri

politikuri partiebis, arasamTavrobo

organizaciebisa da samo-

qalaqo aqtivistebis karvebia

gaSlili. am nawilSi xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebi da mxardam-

Werebi ironiulad aRniSnaven im

faqts, rom TiTo orola adami-

ania parlamentis win. isini imasac

amboben, rom policielebi da

Jurnalistebi ufro meti arian,

vidre _ aqtivistebi. ratom ar

gamodis xalxi quCaSi?

_ xalxi mudmivad ver dadgeba

quCaSi. karavi swored aqtivobis

iseTi formaa, rodesac saprotes-

`ar mgonia, rom `qarTuli ocnebis~ deputatebi ver acnobierebdnen, ras

saubroben, arc egeTi sulelebi arian, magram CemTvis auxsneli qmedebebi

axasiaTebT. magaliTad, SturmiT Seteva nika melias dasaWerad `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ ofisze, sadac uamravi adamiani iyo, maT Soris, opoziciuri

partiebis warmomadgenlebi da Tavadac gaxldiT iq. am Sturmidan meore

dRes `qarTuli ocneba~ melias gareT gamosvlaze saubrobs, araviTari

problema ar ariso, praqtikulad, lamis cixis kari gauRes, rom gareT

gamoiyvanon. am or qmedebas Soris ra logikaa, ubralod, ar mesmis~

to warmomadgenloba unda iyos

da ara adamianebis mTeli samitinge

raodenoba. maxsovs, analogiurad

gveubneboda wina xelisufleba,

rodesac aseve gaSlili iyo

karvebi da saknebi rusTavelze.

isini ambobdnen, rom xalxs ver

vkrebdiT da tyuilad iyo quCebi

gadaketili, am dros ki gaxsovT,

ramdeni xalxi iyo Sekrebili.

Zalian cudia, rodesac adamianebi

xelisuflebaSi xvdebian da viwydebaT

wina xelisuflebis Secdomebi.

viRacebi maSin opozicia-

Sic namyofebi iyvnen, axla ki aRar

darCa „qarTul ocnebaSi” aseTi,

magram roca iyvnen, maTac daaviwydaT,

risTvis ibrZodnen da xelisuflebaSi

yofnis pirobebSi

uari Tqves TavianT principebze,

rac samwuxaroa. xalxi Seikribeba

maSin, roca saWiroa _ karavi aris

protestis gansxvavebuli forma

da is aqtivistebi, romlebic iq

morigeoben da Zalian bevr aqcia-

Si monawileoben, maTi aqtivizmi

Zalian dasafasebelia _ es aris

samoqalaqo aqtivizmi da politikuri

partiebi ufro masStaburi

aqciebis formas mivmarTavT xolme,

roca amis saWiroeba arsebobs.

_ masStaburi aqciebis saWir-

oeba iyo, jer kidev, maSin, roca

2020 wlis arCevnebis Semdeg

opoziciam ganacxadeT, rom xe-

lisuflebam arCevnebi gaayalba

da parlamentSi Sesvlas boikoti

`rac mTavaria, kovids xelisufleba uefeqtures

iaraRad iyenebs. es iaraRi man gamoiyena

winasaarCevno periodSi, arCevnebis dResac

imedovnebda, rom kovidis gamo amomrCevlis

udidesi nawili ar mividoda saarCevno

yuTebTan da is gayalbebis abdaubda swored

imis gamo daemarTaT, rom vidre elodnen,

imaze bevrad meti amomrCeveli mivida

saarCevno yuTebTan. es rom `qarTuli ocnebis~

amomrCeveli ar iyo, zustad icodnen da

amitomac gagiJdnen da miiRes davaleba, rom

radac ar unda dajdomodaT, `qarTuli ocnebis~

sasargeblod unda SeedginaT dokumentacia. is

abdaubda da daubalansebloba, rac oqmebSi

iyo, swored amis nayofia~

gamoucxadeT, Tumca es masSt-

aburi aqciebi ver Sedga. fiqrobT

Tu ara, rom swori komuni-

kaciis problema gaqvT opozi-

cias mosaxleobasTan da sakuTar

amomrCevelTan?

_ ar vambob, rom opozicia

raimes ar aklebs. magaliTad, „lelos”

ukve didi xania dagegmili

gvaqvs regionebSi gasvla, Tumca,

jerjerobiT, mxolod fragmentulad

vaxerxebT. 4 marts Cveni

warmomadgenlebi enguris xidTan

iyvnen, e. w. saokupacio zolTan

myofi sazRvrispira soflebisTvis

saokupacio statusis moxsnis

gamo protesti gamoxates. statusis

moxsna absoluturad auxsneli

da gaugebaria. aseve anaklia-

Sic iyvnen, sadac protesti gamoTqves

swored anakliis proeqtis

gaCerebis gamo. Cven ganzraxva

gvqonda, rom Zalian seriozulad

unda gadavrTuliyaviT regionebze

muSaobasa da soflebSi siarulze,

magram es garemoeba ar

gvaZlevs amis SesaZleblobas,

radgan xan molaparakebaa, xan vi-

Racas iWeren, xan stumari Camodis,

visTanac urTierToba aucilebelia

da rac mTavaria, kovidi,

romelsac xelisufleba uefeqtures

iaraRad iyenebs. es iaraRi

man gamoiyena winasaarCevno periodSi,

arCevnebis dResac imedovnebda,

rom kovidis gamo amomrCevlis

udidesi nawili ar mividoda

saarCevno yuTebTan da is

gayalbebis abdaubda swored imis

gamo daemarTaT, rom vidre elodnen,

imaze bevrad meti amomrCeveli

mivida saarCevno yuTebTan. es

rom „qarTuli ocnebis” amomrCeveli

ar iyo, zustad icodnen

da amitomac gagiJdnen da miiRes

davaleba, rom radac ar unda dajdomodaT,

„qarTuli ocnebis”

sasargeblod unda SeedginaT dokumentacia.

is abdaubda da daubalansebloba,

rac oqmebSi iyo,

swored amis nayofia. Tumca amis

Semdgomac vxedavT, rom absoluturad

auxsneli mizezebiT ar auqmeben

komendantis saaTs. Zalian

Znelia adamianebisTvis, rom aqciaze

Camovidnen raionebidan da

komendantis saaTis gamo, aqciebidan

wasuli xalxi daajarimes.

ase rom, bevri problemaa xelovnurad

Seqmnili. procesic

sakmaod gaiwela da yovel wuTs

quCaSi ver dadgeba amdeni aTasi

adamiani. gonieri xelisuflebis

pirobebSi, rodesac krizisi iqmneba,

misi ganmuxtvis gza aris vadamdeli

arCevnebis daniSvna da

amas amdeni energiis xarjva ar

unda sWirdebodes, magram, samwuxarod,

Cven iseTi xelisufleba

gvyavs, romelTanac ar gadis es

Segonebebi da gvWirdeba, rom

xSirad mivmarToT protestis

formebs.

_ sabolood, daTmobs Tu ara

vadamdel arCevnebs xelisufle-

ba?

_ dRes Tu ar wamova am daTmobaze,

xval mouwevs, xval Tu ara

_ zeg. ubralod, SeuZlebelia, es

situacia vadamdeli arCevnebis

gareSe gadarCes. 4 marts irakli

RaribaSvili mTavrobis sxdomaze

gamovida da gveubneba, rom Turme

momavali 10-wliani ekonomikuri

ganviTarebis gegma unda

Seadginos, maSin roca ekonomikis

saSineli vardna gvaqvs da es Tu

didxans gagrZelda, saerTod

rogor unda amovZvreT am situaciidan?

amitom aris vadamdeli

arCevnebi umniSvnelovanesi, rom

axali politikuri realoba SevqmnaT,

aseve ekonomikisTvisac, sasamarTlo

sistemisTvisac axali realoba

SevqmnaT, rom bevri mniSvnelovani

investicia movizidoT

qveyanaSi. 4 marts anakliis portze

saubrobda premieri, Cven

Tvalwin Caiara am procesma, rogor

xelovnurad dablokes da

Caagdes igi. xazaraZe-jafariZe

cixeSi gasaSvebad gaimetes, rom es

proeqti ar ganxorcielebuliyo.

es saqme dResac daZinebulia. vin

unda daujeros dRes qveynis premier

RaribaSvils, rom is TiTqos

anakliis proeqtisTvis investorebis

moZiebas apirebs, maSin rodesac

ukve moZiebuli investorebi

qveynidan gayares da uzarmazari

zarali anaxes?! Tqven iciT,

rom JenevaSi procesia dawyebuli

am uprecedento motyuebasa da

gadadgebasTan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos

xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg?

xelisuflebis mxridan amdeni

blefiT rodemde unda vicxovroT?!

iseTi problemebia dagrovili

saqarTveloSi, rom RmerTma

nu qnas, es yvelaferi

udides socialur afeTqebamde

mivides. es Zalian Zvirad daujdeba

yvelas da rTuli iqneba am socialuri

afeTqebidan qveynis

normaluri ganviTarebis kalapotSi

Semobruneba. Zalian Znelia,

roca xelisuflebas es ar

esmis. Cven unda vibrZoloT bolomde

da ar davzogoT Tavi, rom

dRes Tu ara xval, xval Tu ara

zeg da ramdenime TveSi mivaRwioT

im gadawyvetilebas, rasac vadamdeli

arCevnebis daniSvna hqvia.

aseve Zalian mniSvnelovania politpatimrebis

ganTavisufleba.

ubralod, warmoudgenelia, rom

rame iluzia SevqmnaT samarTliani

garemosi, miT umetes, winasaarCevno

periodSi, Tu saqarTveloSi

politpatimrebi isev iarsebeben.

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