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`ivaniSvili momaval premierad
is, rom mmarTvel partiaSi
vano pavliaSvili
yvelaferi rigze araa, Seuiar-
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aRebeli TvaliTac Cans. yve-
lafers Tavi rom davaneboT,
nodar melaZis gadacemaSi gasajaroebuli faruli Canawere-
bic mowmobs, rom „ocnebaSi” erTmaneTs ar endobian da us-
men-uTvalTvaleben. hoda, am mocemulobidan gamomdinare, ra
gasakviria, rom saxelisuflebo gundidan male „didi gadine-
ba” daiwyos. sxvaTa Soris, am informacias „qronika+~-s war-
sulSi „ocnebis” wevri, axla ki opoziciis warmomadgeneli,
medea vasaZec udasturebs, anu Cveni respondenti, kuluarul
informaciaze dayrdnobiT, ambobs, rom „ocnebis” ramdenime
persona, romelsac partiaSi gavlena ar aqvs, magram cnobadi
saxea, mmarTveli Zalis datovebas apirebs.
medea vasaZis TqmiT, es ad-
amianebi jer samoqalaqo
moZraobas daafuZneben, romel-
ic male partiad gadakeTdeba
da romelsac eqspremieri gior-
gi gaxaria Caudgeba saTaveSi.
iqneba Tu ara es axali partia
biZina ivaniSvilTan aso-
cirebuli? _ amas winamdebare
interviudan SeityobT da aseve
gaigebT, ratom araa medea
vasaZe momxre, rom opoziciur
erTobas erovnuli moZraoba
erqvas?
_ qalbatono medea, ori Tu
sami aTeuli welia, politikaSi
xarT da iseTi viTareba, rog-
oric 31 oqtombris arCevnebis
Semdeg Seiqmna, sxva drosac
gaxsovT?
_ viTareba Zalian bevrnairi
maxsovs, magram imis momswre
pirvelad gavxdi, rom xelisuflebas
qveyana da sakuTari moqalaqeebi
kedelTan ase mieyenebinos.
imasac vxedav, rom xelisufleba
am viTarebidan gamosavals
Tavad veRar poulobs,
anu xafangSia da arc codna hyofnis,
arc _ Wkua da inteleqti,
rom vinmes rame daekiTxos,
Tumca saamiso kontaqtebic ar
aqvs. sxvaTa Soris, „ocnebaSi”
Sida dinebebi, ZalTa gadanawileba
da SeuTanxmeblobebia.
mokled, qveyanaSi Zalian rTuli
mdgomareobaa!
_ „ocnebis” bunebas zomaze
metad icnobT _ erTxans „meoc-
nebe” iyaviT da ras fiqrobT,
mmarTvelma gundma qveyanasa da
sakuTar Tavsac xafangi ratom
daugo?
_ ki batono, „ocnebaSi” viyavi,
magram, sabednierod, Zalian
male mivxvdi.
_ ras mixvdiT?
_ Sida samzareulosTan wvdoma
mqonda _ RaribaSvili maSinac
premieri iyo da xSirad mxolod
masTan ki ara, partiul xelmZRvanelobasTan
bevrjer vurTierTobdi,
vinaidan sarevizio
komisiis wevri viyavi.
mokled, rasac vxedavdi, mivxvdi,
rom „ocnebis” xelisuflebisgan
araferi gamovidoda da
piradad Cemi arCevani, Tavis
droze, Secdoma iyo!
_ e. i., „ocneba” imTaviTve
uniaTo iyo?
_ diax, uniaTo da uinteleqto.
gaTvlas ver akeTebs da
qveyanac ar uyvars! „ocnebaSi”
yvelaferi sWirdaT: arc baris
iyvnen, arc _ mTis, arc qalaqelebi
iyvnen da arc _ soflelebi,
pozitiuri gagebiT.
diax, „ocnebaSi” sasikeTo veraferi
davinaxe, arada, me,
aWaris uzenaesi sabWos wevrs,
saocari dapirebebiT mosuls,
xalxi quCaSi maCerebda da kiTxvebs
misvamda, me ki pasuxebi ar
mqonda, amitom partiaSi mivdiodi
da vambobdi, _ xalxi kiTxvebs
misvams da pasuxi gamacemineT,
ver vxvdebi, ras akeTebT-meTqi.
sxvaTa Soris, Zveli xelisuflebis
is nawili, romelic
Tavis adgils eZebs da romelTanac
dRes partnioroba maqvs,
„qarTul ocnebaSi” damxvda.
„ocnebidan” Cemi wamosvlis ZiriTadi
mizezi yvelaferi es gaxda.
amasTan, bevri sxva punqtic
Camovayalibe, romelic sadavo
aravis gauxdia... ise, ambobdnen,
medea vasaZeze gavlena murman
dumbaZis „ocnebidan” garicxvam
iqoniao, magram „ocnebis” datoveba
rom gadavwyvite, murman
dubaZe aSS-Si, SvilebTan eqvsi
Tvis wasuli iyo.
ase rom, gadawyvetileba piradad
miviRe. es gadawyvetileba
mZime, magram swori iyo. maSin
am gadawyvetilebas bevri miwunebda,
magram dRevandeli gadasaxedidan
sworad moviqeci,
radgan imas, rac dRes qveyanaSi
xdeba, ver avitandi _ amdeni
lanZRva-gineba, araswori gadawyvetileba
da a. S.
_ qalbatono medea, gaixseneT,
araswori gadawyvetilebebi
uSualod maSindeli premi-
eris iniciativiT miiReboda Tu
is, ubralod, vinmes davalebas
asrulebda?
_ roca rame sakiTxs vayenebdi,
vcdilobdi, RaribaSvili
meiZulebina, rom rame eTqva.
bolos, uxerxuloba rom iqmneboda,
mxrebs iCeCavda da xan _
xeliT, xanac TvalebiT miniSnebas
akeTebda, xanac Tavs wamowevda
xolme.
_ ukacravad, ra miniSnebas an
visze?
_ mgoni, biZinaze.
_ ise, rogor fiqrobT,
ivaniSvili politikidan marT-
la wasulia Tu RaribaSvilis
saxiT mesamed dabrunda?
_ ar vfiqrob, rom wasulia.
yovel SemTxvevaSi, ZiriTad sakiTxebs
ivaniSvili wyvets, Tumca
masTan kontaqtis saSualeba
bevrs ar aqvs. kontaqtze, albaT,
medea vasaZe:
`ocneba~ uniaTo,
uinteleqtoa da
qveyanac
ar uyvars!~
mxolod uSiSroebis samsaxuris
xelmZRvanelia da, rogorc amboben,
momaval premierad
swored mas amzadebs.
_ anu moqmedi premieri Tan-
amdebobas datovebs?
_ vfiqrob, RaribaSvili am
viTarebis dalagebas ver moaxerxebs
da misi Secvlis aucilebloba
dadgeba!
_ Tu vadamdeli ar dainiSna,
samTavrobo cvlilebebi, Tqve-
ni azriT, rodis iqneba?
_ pozioroben da amboben, vadamdeli
arCevnebi wiTeli xazia
da ar ganixilebao, magram gvaqvs
informacia, rom „ocneba”
vadamdeli arCevnebis sakiTxs
ganixilavs!
_ da Tqvens xelT arsebuli
informaciiT, „ocneba” vadam-
dels rodisTvis fiqrobs?
_ gvaqvs molodini, rom
RaribaSvili briuselSi xelcarieli
Casvlas ver gabedavs!
_ ratom ver gabedavs?
_ mxolod biZina ivaniSvilze
ki ara, imazecaa laparaki, rom
sanqciebi kidev ramdenime
pirovnebas dauwesdes!
_ e. i., maqsimum, erT kviraSi,
anu 15 martamde, sanam RaribaS-
vili briuselSi Casvlamde
ityvis, rom „ocneba” vadam-
delze Tanaxmaa?
_ diax, amis molodini gvaqvs,
ufro sworad, opozicia acxadebs,
rom briuselSi gamarTul
SexvedraSi monawileobas miiRebs.
ar vici, es moxerxdeba Tu
ara, magram iqidan dabrunebuli
premieri, wesiT, vadamdel ar-
Cevnebze gaakeTebs gancxadebas.
_ es mxolod varaudia?
`Sida samzareulosTan wvdoma mqonda -
RaribaSvili maSinac premieri iyo da xSirad
mxolod masTan ki ara, partiul
xelmZRvanelobasTan bevrjer vurTierTobdi,
vinaidan sarevizio komisiis wevri viyavi.
mokled, rasac vxedavdi, mivxvdi, rom
`ocnebis~ xelisuflebisgan araferi
gamovidoda da piradad Cemi arCevani, Tavis
droze, Secdoma iyo!~
_ ara, Sesabamisi informaciac
gvaqvs.
_ opoziciam aqciebze uari
swored am kuluaruli infor-
maciis gamo xom ar Tqva?
_ ramdenime gancxadeba gakeTda,
miSelTan Sexvedris meore
dRes ra ambavi iyo parlamentis
piketirebao.
_ anu?
_ opoziciam taqtika cota
Searbila da Secvala kidec _
saprotesto aqciebi, ra Tqma
unda, grZeldeba, magram sxva
saxiT, radgan am kuTxiT xelisuflebas
salaparako ar hqonda.
_ qalbatono medea, es, al-
baT, swori taqtikaa, magram is
xmac dadis, rom protestis
SerbilebiT opoziciis garkv-
euli liderebi saprotesto
muxtis dagdebas cdiloben da
amiT „ocnebis” wisqvilze asxa-
men wyals. ai, magaliTad, Tako
Carkviani pirdapir burjanaZe-
bokeriaze mianiSnebs...
_ am droisTvis aseT gancxadebebs
mizaSewonilad ar miviCnev.
_ ratom?
_ axla piradi simpaTiebis, antipaTiebisa
Tu Zveli ambebis gaxsenebis
dro araa. axla erTianobaa
saWiro da vinc unda moindomos,
es muxti aRar daecema!
_ aseTi darwmunebuli ratom
xarT?
_ bolo saprotesto aqciaze
adamianebis umravlesoba Tvi-
TorganizebiT movida da am aqciaze
Tbiliselebic iyvnen.
_ es ra SuaSia?
_ zogjer amboben xolme, ai,
Tbilisi rodis gaiRviZebso, magram
bolo aqciaze ukve Tbilisic
iyo gamosuli. sxvaTa Soris,
regionebidan adamianebis Camoyvanis
dafinanseba, praqtikulad,
ar arsebobda, amitom xalxma sa-
Sualeba TviTon monaxa _ Tavi
erTad moiyara da TbilisSi organizebulad
wamovida. yovel
SemTxvevaSi, aWaridan ramdenime
aseuli adamiani swored ase Camovida.
Tu procesi ar Seicvala
da yvelaferi isev ise darCa,
rogorc axlaa, maSin 20 martisTvis
daniSnul aqciazec ad-
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