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lustrireba moaxdina!~
amianzec ratomaa moTxovna?
_ ratom?
_ „ocneba” germanias exveweba,
iqneb, Cveni moaqalaqeebi daasaqmoo.
erTi sityviT, aseT marazmul
situaciaSi varT!
ise, sityvam moitana da Zalian
sasacilo raRacebi xdeba. ai, magaliTad,
ramdenime dRis win
sus-is ufrosis pirveli moadgile
xojevaniSvili gadadga,
romelic gaxarias kadrad miiCneoda.
xojevaniSvili is maRal-
Cinosani iyo, romelTanac nebismier
saxelmwifo uwyebaSi nebismieri
TanamSromlis miReba
Tanxmdeboda, anu xojevaniSvili
wyvetda, esa Tu is piri im politikuri
gemovnebis iyo Tu ara,
rom muSaoba romelime administraciul
organoSi daewyo.
ai, qveyana am mdgomareobaSia
da vinme metyvis, rom eseni krizisidan
gamosvlaze fiqroben? _
ara! eseni kriziss SeeCvivnen da
es krizisi maTi arsebobisTvis
mniSvnelovania.
_ anu „ocneba” xelisuflebis
SenarCunebas krizisiT cdi-
lobs?
_ diax da Tu 15 marts SeTanxmeba
ar iqneba, amiT saxelmwifo
da TiToeuli Cvengani daziandeba!
ivaniSvilis reJimi swored
aqeTken midis! Tu gaxsovT, viRacebi
ambobdnen, RaribaSvils
Tavisi amomrCeveli hyavso.
_ diax, amis Sesaxeb msmenia,
anu RaribaSvili „ocnebis” momxreTa
garkveul segmentSi pop-
ularulia...
_ uazro, destruqciuli da
xisti ritorikis mqone politikoss
mxardamWerebis Tavisi segmenti
hyavs da swored am segmentze
muSaobs, rom rame SerCes.
_ yvelaferi es gasagebia, ma-
gram politikur krizisze gar-
kveuli pasuxismgebloba, Cemi
azriT, opoziciasac ekisreba,
anu xelisufleba ambobs, Tu
melia giraos gadaixdis, sapyro-
bilidan gamovuSvebo. CvenTvis
rom vTqvaT, samarTlebrivad es
xom swori da kanonieri midgo-
maa?
_ „ocnebam” kanoni maSin daar-
Rvia, roca melia daiWira.
_ ganaCeni sasamarTlom gam-
oitana da „ocneba” ra SuaSia?
_ sasamarTlom ukanono gadawyvetileba
gamoitana, radgan
igi, realurad, politikuri devnis
instrumentad iqca!
saerTod, aRkveTis RonisZiebad
patimrobis gamoyenebas Tavisi
winapirobebi aqvs _ magali-
Tad, mimalvis an mtkicebulebebis
ganadgurebis safrTxe unda
arsebobdes. melias SemTxvevaSi
ki aqedan erTi standartic ar
daicves.
_ ki batono, magram sasamarTlos
ganaCeni saxelmwifos sis-
ruleSi rom ar moeyvana, es xom
kidev erTi ukanonoba iqneboda?
_ diax, sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba
aucileblad unda
`sasamarTlom ukanono gadawyvetileba gamoitana, radgan igi, realurad,
politikuri devnis instrumentad iqca! saerTod, aRkveTis RonisZiebad
patimrobis gamoyenebas Tavisi winapirobebi aqvs - magaliTad, mimalvis an
mtkicebulebebis ganadgurebis safrTxe unda arsebobdes. melias SemTxvevaSi
ki aqedan erTi standartic ar daicves~
Sesruldes, magram arsebobs
sasamarTlos ukanono gadawyvetileba.
_ am gadawyvetilebis ukanon-
oba isev im sasamarTlom unda
daadginos, romelmac pirvande-
li gadawyvetileba gamoitana?
_ es saqme strasburgamde miva!
_ vnaxoT, magram e. w. melias
krizisis mogvareba samarT-
lebrivad rogor SeiZleba?
_ am saqmeze isev ivaniSvilis
sasamarTlom unda imsjelos!
raki sasamarTlos SevexeT, erT
mniSvnelovan detals gavusvam
xazs, romelzedac aqcenti
aravis gaukeTebia.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ gaxarias gadadgoma swored
am sakiTxs mohyva.
_ diax, es cnobilia.
_ aq erTi niSandoblivi garemoebaa:
gaxaria gamovida da, praqtikulad,
Tqva, aseT viTarebaSi
melias dapatimrebas ar veTanxmebio.
aqve, „SuSis sasaxleSi” murusiZis
vizitic ar unda dagvaviwydes.
_ saubari saiTken migyavT,
giorgi?
_ melias dakaveba politikuri
dakveTa iyo, romelic „SuSis
sasaxlidan” modioda da am, praqtikulad,
specoperaciaze premieri
Tanaxma ar iyo.
mokled, yvelafer amiT is dadasturda,
razedac wlebia,
vsaubrobT _ ivaniSvili yvelafers
ise marTavs, rogorc unda.
gaxariam amis lustrireba moax-
`melias dakaveba politikuri dakveTa iyo,
romelic `SuSis sasaxlidan~ modioda da am,
praqtikulad, specoperaciaze premieri Tanaxma
ar iyo. mokled, yvelafer amiT is
dadasturda, razedac wlebia, vsaubrobT -
ivaniSvili yvelafers ise marTavs, rogorc
unda. gaxariam amis lustrireba moaxdina, Tan
pasuxismgeblobisgan ganTavisuflebasac Seecada
da ivaniSvils, praqtikulad, xeli daado!~
dina, Tan pasuxismgeblobisgan
ganTavisuflebasac Seecada da
ivaniSvils, praqtikulad, xeli
daado!
_ geTanxmebiT, magram konkretulad
gekiTxebiT da konkret-
ulad mipasuxeT: xelisuflebam
melia politikuri SeTanxmebis
safuZvelze rom gamouSvas, es
kanonis darRveva iqneba Tu ara,
anu samarTlebrivi CarCodan
kidev erTxel xom ar gavalT?
_ prokuraturam ganacxada,
sasamarTloSi aRkveTis RonisZiebis
Secvlis SuamdgomlobiT
Seval, Tu melia giraos gadaixdiso,
magram esec arasworia.
_ ratom?
_ adamiani patimrobaSia da
girao rogor unda gadaixados?
_ es kiTxvac logikuria, magram
kiTxvaze mainc ar mpasux-
obT, anu Tu politikuri SeTanxmeba
moiTxovs, kanonis dar-
Rveva „mosula”?
_ saerTod, aRkveTis RonisZiebis
ama Tu im saqmes saxelmwifo
braldeba, anu prokuratura
iTxovs, Tumca prokuraturas
imis diskreciac (moqmedebis
Tavisufleba, _ red.) aqvs, rom
Tundac dRes aRkveTis RonisZiebis
sxva forma moiTxovos da
es kanondarRveva ar iqneba, Tumca
aq mTavari sxva ramea.
_ kerZod?
_ piradad me meqmneba STabe-
Wdileba, rom prokuratura finansuri
aqtivebis biuros msgavsad
iqceva.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ saxis SenarCunebas cdilobs
da, erTi mxriv, ambobs, aRkveTis
RonisZieba gamoyenebuli unda
iqneso. arada, Teoriulad imis
SesaZlebloba arsebobda, rom
nika melias aRkveTis RonisZiebis
gareSe datoveba SesaZlebeli
iyo. meore mxriv ki imijisTvis
ise iqceva, TiTqos aRkveTis
RonisZiebis Sesacvlelad mzadaa,
magram, amave dros, melias
sTavazobs, rom ukan daixios.
_ melias ukan daxeva imas ni-
Snavs, rom girao gadaixados?
_ diax, Tumca melia giraos
imitom ar ixdis, rom saqme
ukanonobasTan gvaqvs.
erTi sityviT, xelisufleba,
realurad, Tavis politikas agr-
Zelebs da mere Tu giraos gadaixdida,
ityoda, ai, meliam yvelaferi
gaiazrao, anu misgan antigmirs
Seqmnis, Torem didi
xania, xelisuflebis moqmedebebi
samarTlebriv CarCoSi aRar
jdeba! sarTod, arCevnebis gayalbebis
Semdeg am tipis xelisuflebasTan
samarTlebriv sakiTxebze
laparaks azri aRar aqvs!
roca uamravi adamianis fundamentur
uflebas fexqveS gaTelav,
iq samarTlebrivi CarCoebi
aRar arsebobs, miSelic swored
amitom Camovida da pirdapir
Tqva, 15 martamde problemis
gadaWris gzebze SeTanxmdiTo.
_ giorgi, erTsac gkiTxavT
da dagemSvidobebiT: yvelafer
zemoTqmulis fonze, opozicia
saprotesto aqciebs, minimum,
„alaiTebs”, Sesabamisad, saprotesto
muxtic vardeba. gamorcixavT,
rom opoziciis garkveu-
li nawili „ocnebasTan” iyos
garigebuli da aqciis formebic
amitom Searbiles?
_ esec miSelis vizitTanaa
dakavSirebuli, anu opoziciam
yvelas unda aCvenos, rom dialogs
ki ar gaurbis da damabrkolebel
garemoebebs ki ar
qmnis, aramed surs, rom saxelmwifo
interesebis sasikeTod
SeTanxmebas konstruqciul Car-
CoebSi miaRwion. ise, opoziciam
ki ar Tqva, aqciebi aRar iqnebao,
ubralod, droebiT forma Secvala,
anu xelisuflebas garkveuli
„drois derefani” misca, raTa
SeTanxmeba moxdes!
swored aqedan Cans, rom
opozicias xelisuflebaze meti
pasuxismgebloba aRmoaCnda, radgan
absluturad saxelmwifoebrivad
moqmedebs!
_ e. i., opozicia mxolod
politikurad ki ara, samarT-
lebrivadac swored moqmedebs?
_ diax.
_ giorgi, roca es bakqanalia
damTavrdeba, Tqven, rogorc
iurists, „ocnebis” bedi rogor
warmogidgeniaT?
_ „ocnebas” umZimesi bedi elodeba
da amaSi Rrmad var darwmunebuli.
warsuli gamocdilebidan,
vfiqrob, Cveni sazogadoeba
iqamde mivida, rom yvela is
danaSauli, romelic „ocnebam”
Caidina, samarTlianma sasamarTlom
Sesabamisad unda azRvevinos!
_ qarTul sisxlis samarTlis
kodeqsSi iseTi muxlebi arsebobs,
romliTac „ocnebas”, min-
imum, politikuri danaSauli-
sTvis moeTxoveba pasuxi?
_ „ocnebis” mier Cadenil
mTel rig danaSaulebTan dakav-
SirebiT, ra Tqma unda, aseTi
muxlebi arsebobs!
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