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_ am SeTanxmebis erT-erTi
punqti fundamenturi saarCevno
reformebia da Tu vinme imas
ambobs, rac mkiTxeT, orosnoba,
gaunaTlebloba da waukiTxaobaa!
pirveli punqtidan meeqvsemde,
anu bolomde unda
waikiTxo da ara _ mxolod
dokumentis erTi punqti.
_ gasagebia, magram yvelafe-
ri es droSi gaiweleba _ sanam
sakonstitucio cvlilebebi
ganxorcieldeba, mere sanam
plebisciti Catardeba, mere _
vadamdeli arCevnebi da amaso-
baSi weliwadze metic gava...
hoda, yvelafer amas azri eqn-
eba?
_ axla Tqvens Tavs ewinaaRmdegebiT.
_ ratom?
_ droSi rom ar gaiwelos,
maSin yvelaferi Jvaniam unda
Caataros.
_ ase gamodis, magram pleb-
isciti ra saWiroa, ar jobia,
pirdapir vadamdeli arCevnebi
dainiSnos?
_ diax, mec ase mirCevnia, magram
roca ver Tanxmdebi, maSin
plebiscitia saWiro, rom gadawyvito,
xalxs ra unda.
_ plebiscitis ideas opoziciis
yvela lideri ar emxro-
ba...
_ raSi mainteresebs, Tu am
sakiTxze azri gaiyofa?
_ ratom ar gainteresebT?
_ naklebad mainteresebs,
SeTanxmebis sapirispiro azrs
vin gamoTqvams da daafiqsirebs.
man pasuxi amomrCevlisgan
unda miiRos, radgan TamaSi ar
SeiZleba. es saTamaSo ki ara,
saxelmwifoa! saerTod, politikuri
speqtris mimarT undobloba
araTanmimdevrulobiTa
da erTi poziciidan meoreze
mudmivi xtomiTaa gamowveuli.
me ki amas ar vapireb!
_ xtoma, cxadia, cudia, magram
ukve iTqva, „lelom”, „strategia
aRmaSenebelma” da el-
ene xoStariam SesaZloa, axali
bloki SeqmnaT. Tu ase moxda,
e. i., enm-sTan arsebuli opoz-
iciuri erToba daiSleba da
or banaks miviRebT?
_ es ra SuaSia? jer erTi,
detalurad araferzea saubari.
ubralod, RonisZiebaze
dagvpatiJes da mivedi.
meorec, Tu vinmesTan partiul
TanamSromlobas daviwyebT,
aman rame ratom unda gamoiwvios?
am gaerTianebaSi koaliciebic
arian da calkeuli
partiebic...
saerTod, araerTxel miTqvams
da axlac gavimeoreb, rom
mZlavri mizidulobis centria
Camosayalibebeli.
Cveni partiis momavals „nacionalur
moZraobasTan” ver
vxedav, radgan es CemTvis wagebis
gzaa!
_ sxvaTa Soris, opoziciis
im erTobaSi, sadac dRes xarT,
nino burjanaZecaa...
_ koalicias verc burjanaZesTan
erTad vxedav.
_ aba, dRes burjanaZis
gverdiT rogor xarT?
_ dRes Tematuri sakiTxia.
_ anu?
_ sxvadasxva opoziciuri partia
sakuTar azrs afiqsirebs,
rasac ver davuSli, Tumca es
imas rodi niSnavs, rom romelimesTan
koaliciur Tanam-
Sromlobas vapireb!
_ giorgi, xom ar geCvenebaT,
rom dRes arsebul opoziciis
protestSi garkveuli opozi-
ciuri Zalebi lokomotivis
rolis morgebas da amiT muxtis
dacemas cdiloben, anu aq-
ciebis gadadebaze yvela lideri
Tanaxma iyaviT Tu es ro-
melimes iniciativiT moxda?
_ yvelaferze yvela Tanaxma
arasodesaa, Tumca amaSi SeT-
N3 (335) 8.03-21.03.2021 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
Sesvla racionaluri iqneba!~
`SeTanxmebis SemTxvevaSi parlamentSi arSesvla nebismieri politikuri
Zalis mxridan, ubralod, araadekvatur nabijad mimaCnia! sagiJeTSi ar
vcxovrobT, gvinda, qveyana avaSenoT, giJebisTvis ki gza xsnilia!~
qmulebis Teoriebs ver vxedav
da am gadawyvetilebaSi logika
arsebobs _ mZlavri saprotesto
aqcebis dros „ocnebam”
provokaciaze rom ar wamogvagos
da is didi sagareo mxardaWera
ar davkargoT,
romelic movipoveT...
_ giorgi, dRevandeli mocemulobiT,
SegviZlia, erTmniSvnelovnad
vTqvaT, rom bi-
Zina ivaniSvilisa da sxva „me-
ocnebeebisTvis”
sanqciebi
gardauvalia Tu es erTgvari
iluziaa?
_ gardauvali araferi arsebobs
da xalxs iluziaSi nu SeviyvanT!
yvelafers seriozuli
muSaoba unda. Tu „qarTuli
ocneba” ityvis, arc evrokav-
Siris azri mainteresebs, arc _
`Tu kalaZe gadadgeba, es `qarTuli
ocnebisTvis~, ra Tqma unda, Zalian seriozuli
dartyma iqneba - daasustebs!~
amerikeli partniorebis, arc _
opoziciis da arc _ sazogadoebis
im nawilis, romelic
arCevnebs gayalbebulad miiCnevso,
maSin sanqciebic iqneba
da yvelaferic.
_ sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime
dRis win mixeil saakaSvilma
gvamcno, _ zustad vici, ivan-
iSvils sanqciebis proeqti
ukve win daudeso...
_ saakaSvilis aseTi raRacebi
naklebad mainteresebs... pirdapir
geubnebiT: aSS-s saakaSvilTan
kontaqti ar aqvs _ mas
aSS-Si ar elaparakebian!
_ ratom ar elaparakebian?
_ rigi mizezebis gamo...
_ sainteresoa...
_ me da bevr sxva adamians
gacilebiT meti kontaqti gvaqvs...
_ ise, bolo dros maincd-
amainc aRar CanxarT. rogorc
vici, ramdenime dRis win
ukrainaSi iyaviT, ufro adre
ki _ aSS-Si...
_ diax, ukrainaSi yovel kviras
davdivar.
_ risTvis?
_ kovidregulaciebi rom
moixsna, bevri aqtivoba daiwyo
_ ramdenime proeqti maqvs... ki
batono, aSS-Sic viyavi.
_ aSS-dan ra CamoitaneT?
_ amerikel megobrebTan Cemi
da „strategia aRmaSeneblis”
strategiuli partnioroba.
_ ...vTqvaT, ise moxda, rom
ukan „ocnebamac” daixia, opoziciamac
da, Sesabamisad, vadamdeli
arCevnebi daniSna. nebis-
mieri arCevnebi did fuls
ukavSirdeba da qveynisTvis xarjia.
axal arCevnebs, miT umetes,
maSin, roca TviTmmarT-
velobis arCevnebic karsaa
momdgari, qveyana gauZlebs?
_ arCevnebis Catarebaze
uars ver vityviT, Tan ekonomikuri
krizisidan gamosvlis
erTaderTi swori gza swored
xelisuflebis arCevnebis gziT
Secvla mgonia, Torem am xelisuflebis
pirobebSi, ekonomikuri
TvalsazrisiT, samwuxarod,
araferi icvleba da arc
Seicvleba, radgan mTlianad
fulis keTebaze arian gadasulebi
da ekonomika saerTod
ar aRelvebT!
_ giorgi, weRan sanqciebze
rom vsaubrobdiT, unda mekiTxa
da damaviwyda: pirovnuli
sanqciebi qveyanasac Seexe-
ba?
_ Tu sanqcirebuli pirebi
xelisuflebaSi iqnebian, es
qveyanasac daazianebs, radgan
roca naxavs, rom xelisuflebis
saTaveSi myofebi sanqcirebuli
arian, qveyanaSi erTi investoric
ar Semova!
_ Tqveni azriT, ivaniSvil-
ma premierad maincdamainc
RaribaSvili ratom daabruna?
_ vfiqrob, daabalansa, anu
saSualeba ar misca, rom Zalaufleba
mTlianad erT jgufs
aeRo.
_ romel jgufs gulisx-
mobT?
_ kobaxiZe-TalakvaZe-kalaZes.
_ xma dadis, rom kalaZe
SesaZloa, „ocnebas” gaem-
ijnos. Tu ase moxda, e. i.,
mmarTvel gundSi didi orom-
triali daiwyeba, ara?
_ Tu kalaZe gadadgeba, es
„qarTuli ocnebisTvis”, ra
Tqma unda, Zalian seriozuli
dartyma iqneba _ daasustebs!
_ gaxarias politikaSi dab-
runeba „ocnebisTvis” rogori
iqneba?
_ gaxarias politikaSi Semosvla
saintereso iqneba, magram
vnaxoT, eyofa Tu ara
gambedaoba, rom es nabiji gadadgas!
saerTod, politikaSi Semosvla
da damoukidebeli aqtivoba
martivi ar aris!
_ bolos, giorgi, im SemTxvevaSi,
Tu 6-punqtiani SeTanxmeba
Sedgeba da parlamentSi
SexvalT, albaT, poli-
tikuri bulingis msxverpli
gaxdebiT...
_ jer erTi, am sakiTxebze
daTanxmeba-SeTanxmebas „strategia
aRmaSenebeli” calke ar
ixilavs.
meorec, arc bulingi mainteresebs
da arc _ araferi.
Cven gadawyvetilebas yovelTvis
damoukideblad viRebT
iqidan gamomdinare, qveynis-
Tvis kargi da swori ra aris da
ara iqidan _ romeli partiisa
Tu politikuri figurisTvis.
mokled, SeTanxmebis SemTxvevaSi
parlamentSi arSesvla
nebismieri politikuri Zalis
mxridan, ubralod, araadekvatur
nabijad mimaCnia! sagiJeT-
Si ar vcxovrobT, gvinda, qveyana
avaSenoT, giJebisTvis ki
gza xsnilia!
_ CvenSi darCes da, qarTul
politikaSi giJi Zalian bev-
ria...
_ adekvaturoba aravin unda
dakargos. CemTvis mniSvnelovania,
rom iseTi fundameti SevqmnaT,
romelzedac normalur
saxelmwifos avaSenebT da mgonia,
rom axla, Cveni dasavleli
partniorebis mxardaWeriT,
amis SesaZleblobebis fanjara
gvaqvs!
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