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ScienceMakers Toolkit Manual - The History Makers

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Chemistry<br />

reluctant to say anything and so as I said, we did eat there and found out the next day that this was an accomplishment.<br />

This is Ohio, this is North, and this is segregated.<br />

Clip 3 - Begins Work with NACA/NASA: I started at…employed at NACA, the National Advisory Committee<br />

for Aeronautics and the way I got that job…is kinda interesting. When I was here in Cleveland interviewing<br />

for the job at Industrial Rayon at which they said they wanted a, you know, a mechanical engineering background.<br />

While I was in town, I called a friend of mine who had graduated a year or so before I did from Ohio<br />

State and he was working in Cleveland at NACA and so I just called and said hello, I was in town and told him<br />

why, and he said, “Oh why don’t you come out here, we’re looking for people.” So I did. I applied for a position<br />

there and got it and started in August of 1954, and again, this is a civilian agency of the government, the predecessor<br />

actually of NASA, but it was NACA the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics. I was at Clark<br />

from 1953 to 1954, and then I started in 1954 at NACA as a research chemist.<br />

Clip 4 - Jet Fuel Research: My work primarily was as a chemist. Yes, and initially it involved fuels for jet aircraft.<br />

As in all vehicle studies, you’re always interested in getting better performance, more effi ciency, all kinds<br />

of improvements in any mode of transportation. So, we were looking for fuels for jet aircraft that were better<br />

than the ones that were presently being used…in some cases. In one case, they were looking at different kinds<br />

of fuel, very quickly and very simply, instead of carbon and hydrogen, which is the makeup of the hydrocarbon<br />

fuels that were used in cars and aircraft and whatever. We started looking at some boron hydrogen compounds<br />

because it seemed that they might give us more effi ciency, more bang for the buck in some cases. It turns out<br />

that yes, they were better in some ways, but in other ways they were not. <strong>The</strong>re were too much deposits left, so<br />

that program was looked at and then dropped. <strong>The</strong> Navy was particularly interested in those fuels, so we looked<br />

at different kinds of fuels for jet aircraft other than the carbon and hydrogen fuels and then, as I said, that program<br />

was dropped because it wasn’t any better.<br />

Clip 5 - Oil Alternatives Research: And then in another program, we started looking for alternate sources of<br />

fuels. By that I mean fuels come out of the ground now, petroleum reserves. Dig an oil well. You get the oil out<br />

of it. You process it. A certain part of it goes for gasoline for cars. A certain part goes for fuels for aircraft. And<br />

a certain part goes for some other uses. Well, we had a crisis, impending crisis: that we were going to run out<br />

of petroleum fuels. What can we use? Well, one of the answers was we can use coal and oil shale. <strong>The</strong> United<br />

States has a lot of coal. It also has a lot of shale oil reserves and can we get decent aircraft fuels from these<br />

sources. Well, okay, let’s get some of this out and we’ll test it. As a chemist, we would analyze it. Tell the engineers<br />

how similar or how different it is from the fuels that they were using. And so, there was a program that<br />

was developed to look at fuels from alternate sources. Well, that went on for a few years until they found that,<br />

oh, we’re really not as short on oil as we thought. We got enough to last for x number of years and the crisis that<br />

started off and then [oil prices] started come back down, and so that program went by the boards also because<br />

we don’t need these fuels from alternate sources.<br />

Some of my work was involved with energy research…specifi cally looking at batteries and fuel cells, which are<br />

sources of electricity. And the Navy was interested in the programs that we had. Well, NASA was interested<br />

also, but NASA didn’t have money to support the programs. So, we were getting our support from the Department<br />

of Energy and the Department of Defense. So, my work was more for sources…for terrestrial uses and<br />

also underwater and…in some instances, because the Navy had some underwater aircraft that they wanted to<br />

develop some of these sources of energy for, and not really related to outer space. And in telling…different<br />

people they ask about that and they said, “Well, wait a minute, you’re out at the space agency and…” Yes, but<br />

we do a lot of work that’s not directly related to space and we were asked to do this and we respond. And it just<br />

happens that most of my work has really not been directed to any projects in outer space.<br />

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