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AAIM Joint Plenary Session, “Electronic Health Records in Education: State of the Art and Future
Directions”
Joe Doty, Moderator
Gary S. Ferenchick, MD
David R. Donnersberger, Jr., MD, JD
Michael H. Zaroukian, MD, PhD
Presentation
Content
5.56 from 332 responses
5.52 from 325 responses
Session and Individual Speaker Comments:
All presentations superb. Dr. Zaroukian’s prediction pf “digital rivers of patient health information” was
colorful and I suspect unfortunately all too accurate. One point not clearly addressed (unless I missed it)
was the fact that the EMR turns many physicians into data entry technicians, a job that not all are
comfortable with nor particulary adept at.
Dr. Donnersberger gave a nice presentation and brought up pertinent legal insights into this issue. Should
definitely invite him back.
I wanted to hear more practical advice about how to get students access to the records. To say that we need
to be advocating for the students is preaching to the choir. The problem is that WE don’t control access, IT
does and they seem to have little incentive to give students access. We are creating a generation of medical
students who won’t know how to write when they get to residency (and we’re already seeing it in awful
notes written in OSCEs, during clerkships, etc)
Interestingly enough, there was no one from a VA involved in the presentation, undervaluing the oldest
EHR system. The legal implications were something that should have been stressed more and made more
clear.
Power point slides were too busy
Really didn’t learn anything new
I think it was fine but not all places have fancy EMR systems that allow for a “playground” in which
students can practice. That would be nice, but what do we do when we can’t have them practice?
Great perspectives
Excellent discussion
I was a little disappointed that there wasn’t more discussion about the controversies, particularly legal ones
that are becoming a barrier in med ed. The Q&A was more helpful than the formal presentations that were
a bit too long and the first two a bit redundant. I respected all the speakers and wish the opening remarks
were shorter with more time for audience participation
Hard to translate to my own practice.
Would like to see more in future meetings including practical workshops.
Another fun debate that challenged my own opinions and beliefs. Well done. Wish I knew what to do
afterwards, but no conclusions drawn.
Repetitive between speakers and a little dull
Unsure clinical impact
Not very helpful.
First two speakers went on too long telling us things we already knew. Third speaker was a bit better.
Around me most people were reading newspaper or on Blackberry’s.
Seemed like rahrah for EMR without discussing the negatives.
Very interesting topics. Speakers were good. Legal aspects of students and EMR was particularly
interesting, although other speakers did a great job of educating me on the potential for EMR in education
and the challenges (which I had never thought about before) of using it for the modern generation.
Great topic though did not get to the heart of the matter which is how to incorporate the EHR with medical
education and the reality that medical students do not all get full access to EHRs at facilities.
Really excellent discussion of a timely topic - especially appreciated donnersberger
There were too many people in this session. It was hard to hear and see.
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