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I think what works well for me is the<br />
fact I have a broad skillset really. So I’ve<br />
always been involved in starting business<br />
and being an entrepreneur, but along<br />
the way I’ve become a qualified venture<br />
capitalist, private equity corporate lawyer,<br />
and investment banker, so I understand<br />
numbers and balance sheets and cash<br />
flows.<br />
I’ve worked in corporate finance and<br />
made business plans for people and<br />
raised money for entrepreneurs. So my<br />
background actually is the professional<br />
side of venture capital and private equity<br />
and hedge funds.<br />
That’s my professional capability and it<br />
means that when I think about financing<br />
or legal or intellectual property or<br />
structuring these things, I just know how<br />
to do it.<br />
What particularly impresses you?<br />
If a reader has an idea and wanted<br />
to pitch it into you, what would they<br />
need to do to impress you and win you<br />
over?<br />
For me it’s scale to be honest with<br />
you. In ‘Dragon’s Den’ some businesses<br />
are more scalable than others and I<br />
think that’s why I’m always particularly<br />
attracted to technology, because it can<br />
scale.<br />
For example, the ‘Lostmy.name’,<br />
the book business, they could sell ten<br />
books, they could sell a million books.<br />
It’s software and clearly there’s some<br />
printing and there’s some logistics, but<br />
that the scale of the business, because it’s<br />
outsourced.<br />
Some people come in to the ‘Den’,<br />
who are painters or do caricatures of<br />
people and want investment for these<br />
businesses, but relying on just their own<br />
efforts means these are just not scalable,<br />
because they can only do a finite number<br />
of projects by themselves in a day, or<br />
a week. So those pitches don’t attract<br />
me too much. It’s about scale, and<br />
technology enables you to scale, both in<br />
your country and globally.<br />
Do you think many budding<br />
entrepreneurs are being unrealistic in<br />
terms of how much money they might<br />
be able to secure from investors when<br />
starting out?<br />
I haven’t got a problem with people<br />
being unrealistic. If you’ve got a dream<br />
and you think you need 100 million to do<br />
it, then go and do it. Look at Jack Mar,<br />
‘Mr Alibaba’, I’m sure he had a bit of help<br />
from the Chinese government, but he<br />
started in his bedroom and just raised 28<br />
billion dollars.<br />
What I will say is you’ve got to have a<br />
plan and the plan’s got to be realistic. If<br />
you go to 100 people and they all tell you<br />
that you’re nuts, then you probably need<br />
to listen and have a re-think. I’ve done<br />
that myself. When you’re younger you<br />
can take a lot more risks because you’ve<br />
got time, but there comes a point where<br />
you’ve got to stop chasing a rabbit down<br />
a hole and just fill it in.<br />
Do you think some of them don’t<br />
appreciate the amount of preparation,<br />
research and effort they need to put in<br />
before they even present?<br />
Well, there’s that. You’ve got to be<br />
prepared. If you haven’t done that prep<br />
work and research, then you shouldn’t<br />
be starting a business because you really<br />
don’t know what you’re getting yourself<br />
into.<br />
I think the more important thing to<br />
appreciate is that being an entrepreneur<br />
can be extremely painful. It can be very<br />
costly in financial terms, in terms of<br />
your time, which impacts on family and<br />
relationships, and can be very stressful.<br />
You have other people relying on you,<br />
if you’ve got employees, that can be a real<br />
worry. You have your ups and downs.<br />
You have days where you’re staring into<br />
your desk with your head in your hands<br />
thinking, “How on earth am I going to get<br />
through this week?” You’ll be staring at<br />
the ceiling at three four in the morning<br />
on the odd occasion, worrying about an<br />
issue and there’s a lot of that in starting a<br />
business until you really do find your feet<br />
and I think people forget that it is hard<br />
work.<br />
How else can start-ups find and<br />
secure investments other than<br />
through Angel investors or ‘Dragons’<br />
like yourself?<br />
Well there are actually lots of other<br />
schemes, like start-up loans, for example,<br />
but the best way to start a business at<br />
the end of the day is to use your own<br />
resources, because when you bring in<br />
investors very early, you can lose quite<br />
a big part of your business at the start<br />
which is not ideal. What I always say to<br />
people is, “If you want to get involved,<br />
keep your overheads low” and by that I<br />
mean, not just business overheads, but<br />
your personal overheads too, because if<br />
you’ve got a flash car and go on holidays<br />
you can’t really afford and have an<br />
expensive mortgage or rent etc, they all<br />
act like anchors that could prevent you<br />
taking potentially beneficial risks and<br />
also, that fixed cost you’ve got to cover<br />
every month typically means you’re going<br />
to have to get a job.<br />
Any advice on how to negotiate<br />
equity with a potential investor and<br />
how much equity should you hold on<br />
to?<br />
Treat it like gold dust! Equity, at the<br />
end of the day, is why you do it. Equity<br />
is the difference between being master<br />
of your own destiny and working<br />
for somebody else. I’ve had heated<br />
discussions about 1% of my business<br />
before, never mind 10%. Do not part with<br />
it without a very, very good reason.<br />
Is there a kind of magic formula to<br />
use as a guide i.e. for x £ expect to give<br />
“EQUITY IS THE DIFFERENCE<br />
BETWEEN BEING MASTER OF YOUR<br />
OWN DESTINY AND WORKING FOR<br />
SOMEBODY ELSE.”<br />
x % of the company?<br />
If you’re a private company, especially<br />
and Angel backed business or you’re<br />
talking to friends and family, the value of<br />
your company is what they’re willing to<br />
agree to. Simple as that.<br />
So if you’ve got a very high valuation<br />
and you’re giving a small piece of equity,<br />
they’ll get a very small percentage. If<br />
it’s a very low valuation and they’re<br />
giving a lot of money, then it’s going to<br />
be big percentage. So that’s my point,<br />
it’s about as an entrepreneur you need<br />
to bootstrap your business as far as<br />
possible, prove it as much as you possibly<br />
can, before you go and ask other people<br />
for money, because that increases the<br />
valuation and your negotiating position.<br />
In technology, for example, you need<br />
to have your ‘minimum viable product’,<br />
they call it. So, it’s not perfect, it’s not<br />
finished, but it enables you to show this is<br />
what it’s going to do. This is how it works.<br />
Here’s the market. What do you think?