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N7 (<strong>228</strong>) 6.03-12.03.2018 w.<br />
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sasamarTlos~<br />
ebdes mosamarTle, rom Tanamdebobaze<br />
dainiSnos). mosamarTleebs<br />
formalurad afaseben, isini<br />
ramdenime etapian process gadian,<br />
iwereba qulebi, maT Soris<br />
imaze, rom mosamarTlem daakmayofila<br />
keTilsindisierebisa da<br />
kompetenturobis kriteriumebi;<br />
Semdeg etapze ki sakiTxi dgeba<br />
kenWisyraze, ra drosac azrs kargavs<br />
yovelgvari Sefaseba da<br />
faruli kenWisyriT, uvadod, yovelgvari<br />
dasabuTebis gareSe iniSnebian<br />
mosamarTleebi. am wesiT<br />
dainiSnen mosamarTleebi uvadod,<br />
romlebic klanis wevrebad<br />
miiCnevian. damkvirveblebisTvis<br />
`saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli, rom<br />
cnobili unda iyos, Tu ratom<br />
dainiSna an piriqiT, ar dainiSna<br />
araformaluri mmarTvelobis problema gvaqvs!<br />
konkretuli piri am Tanamde-<br />
evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />
bobaze. miuxedavad amisa, Cvenma<br />
Sesrulebis Sefaseba gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />
kanonmdebelma gadawyvita, daex-<br />
weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul gamowvevas<br />
ura Sefasebis qulaTa es siste-<br />
warmoadgens araformaluri mmarTveloba. es ki,<br />
ma da iseTi wesi SemoiRo, romel-<br />
ra Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo sistemazec,<br />
ic farTo SesaZleblobas uto-<br />
iusticiis sabWozec da, saerTod, yvela<br />
vebs klans, rom TviTneburad<br />
instituciaze~<br />
imoqmedos.<br />
_ ramdeni xania, rac es kla-<br />
nuri mmarTvelobaa sasamarTlo<br />
sistemaSi da visgan Sedgeba igi?<br />
_ yovelTvis ase iyo, Cven arasdros<br />
gvqonda damoukidebeli<br />
sasamarTlo, miT ufro, iusticiis<br />
umaRlesi sabWo, is yovelTvis<br />
problemuri gaxldaT.<br />
gvaxsovs periodi, roca saer-<br />
Tod daxuruli iyo da sxdomebic<br />
ki ar imarTeboda, Sesabamisad,<br />
zedmetia saubari, rom iq instituciurad<br />
miiReboda gadawyvetileba.<br />
ra Tqma unda, iqac<br />
konkretuli gavleniani jgufebi<br />
iRebda saboloo gadawyvetilebas.<br />
dRes gansxvaveba is aris,<br />
rom es sxdomebi Riaa da procesis<br />
naxvis SesaZlebloba gvaqvs,<br />
Tumca, Sinaarsobrivad, substanciurad,<br />
araferi Secvlila, _<br />
rogorc muSaobda klani maSin,<br />
ise muSaobs axlac.<br />
saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli,<br />
rom araformaluri mmarTvelobis<br />
problema gvaqvs!<br />
evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />
Sesrulebis Sefaseba<br />
gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />
weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul<br />
gamowvevas warmoadgens araformaluri<br />
mmarTveloba. es ki, ra<br />
Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo<br />
sistemazec, iusticiis sabWozec<br />
da, saerTod, yvela instituciaze.<br />
_ e. i. maT politikuri mx-<br />
ardaWera aqvT?<br />
_ politikuri, xelisuflebis<br />
mxardaWeris gareSe iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWoSi aseTi procesebi<br />
da aseTi krizisi ar gveqneboda<br />
(ar vsaubrobT calkeul<br />
problemebze). sasamarTlo sistemaSi<br />
krizisia, igi ver moxdeboda<br />
cudi kanonmdeblobisa da<br />
politikuri nebis gareSe, roca<br />
maT swored is adamianebi daniSnes<br />
iusticiis sabWoSi, romlebic<br />
morCilad xels auweven klanis<br />
wevrebisTvis sasurvel gadawyvetilebas!<br />
_ romelia aRniSnuli klanis<br />
wevrebis<br />
sazogadoebisTvis<br />
cnobili da gaxmaurebuli<br />
saqme?<br />
_ klanis wevrebad moixseniebian<br />
is adamianebi, romlebic yvelaze<br />
xSirad saxeldebian, garedan<br />
Canan, Torem amas kidev ufro<br />
didi lustracia, gamokvleva<br />
sWirdeba. vinmes usamarTlobis<br />
gancda rom ar darCes an klanis<br />
wevroba ar mieweros, es sakiTxi<br />
aucileblad unda SeviswavloT.<br />
dRes es procesi (mag.: mosamarTle<br />
SavaZis gancxadebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT mamiseiSvilis, ba-<br />
Tumis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />
TavmjdomaresTan dakavSirebiT)<br />
dawyebulia, rac safuZveli unda<br />
gaxdes, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />
siRrmiseulad SeviswavloT<br />
da yvela is piri gamoikveTos,<br />
romelic xels uSlis mosamarTleebis<br />
damoukidebel muSaobas.<br />
_ konkretulad, ra roli da<br />
gavlena hqonda TiToeul maT-<br />
gans am procesSi?<br />
_ Cven yvelaze xSirad visac<br />
vasaxelebT, aris mixeil CinCalaZe,<br />
romelic saapelacio sasamarTlos<br />
Tavmjdomarea, manamde<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris<br />
moadgile iyo mravali weli.<br />
rac Seexeba mis mier warmoebul<br />
saqmeebs, wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
mas saqme, faqtobrivad, ar<br />
ganuxilavs. esec sasamarTlo<br />
`girgvlianis saqmis mosamarTle levan<br />
murusiZesTan dakavSirebiT bolo wlebSi<br />
ganviTarebulma movlenebma cxadyo, rom isic<br />
erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani figuraa<br />
sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi. rogorc wina, ise<br />
am Semadgenlobis sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />
yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT klanis wevrebad~<br />
sistemis klanis problemaa, rom<br />
mis wevrebs, rogorc wesi, ar<br />
ewerebaT saqmeebi, TiTqosda,<br />
sxva administraciuli funqciebiT<br />
arian dakavebulebi, amitom<br />
saqmeebs ar ganixilaven xolme.<br />
Sesabamisad, mis saxelTan konkretuli,<br />
romelime saqme SeiZleba<br />
ar asocirdebodes, magram<br />
problema is aris, rom mosamarTlis<br />
fuqcias is ar asrulebs.<br />
arada, erT-erTi yvelaze gavleniani<br />
figura is gaxlavT. amboben,<br />
rom yvela mniSvnelovani sakiTxi<br />
(magaliTad, vin unda dainiSnos<br />
mosamarTled) winaswar swored<br />
masTan Tanxmdeba.<br />
girgvlianis saqmis mosamar-<br />
Tle levan murusiZesTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT bolo wlebSi ganviTarebulma<br />
movlenebma cxadyo, rom<br />
isic erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani<br />
figuraa sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi.<br />
rogorc wina, ise am Semadgenlobis<br />
sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />
yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT<br />
klanis wevrebad.<br />
_ romeli ZiriTadi orga-<br />
nizaciebi xarT gaerTianebuli<br />
am axal kampaniaSi „saiasa” da<br />
„saerTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba<br />
saqarTvelos” garda?<br />
_ kampanias awarmoebs koalicia<br />
„damoukidebeli da gamWvirvale<br />
marTlmsajulebisTvis”,<br />
romelic bevr sxva organizaciasTan<br />
erTad aerTianebs: EMC _<br />
„adamianis uflebaTa swavlebisa<br />
da monitoringis centrs”, „Ria<br />
sazogadoeba saqarTvelos”, IDFIs,<br />
„konstituciis 42-e muxls”,<br />
adamianis uflebaTa centrs,<br />
„saqarTvelos demokratiul iniciativas”,<br />
aseve, arian profesiuli<br />
gaerTianebebi, rogoric<br />
aris „sifa”, amerikis savaWro<br />
palata da sxv.<br />
_ 2 wlis winaT Tqven gqondaT<br />
kampania „samarTali iTxovs”.<br />
ra iyo maSindeli kampani-<br />
is mizani da ra cvlilebebia<br />
wlevandel kampaniaSi?<br />
_ maSinac Zveli kampaniis moTxovnebi<br />
iyo is, rom realuri reforma<br />
gatarebuliyo, mosamar-<br />
Tleebis daniSvna maSinac aqtualuri<br />
iyo, vinaidan, mogexsenebaT,<br />
2015-2016 wlebSi mosamarTleebis<br />
masobrivad daniSvnis<br />
procesebi mimdinareobda.<br />
dRes Cvens kampanias daemata<br />
is, rom klani unda daiSalos!<br />
imdenad aSkaraa es klanuri mmarTveloba,<br />
imdenad azri ar aqvs<br />
sxva formaluri da akademiuri<br />
meTodebiT brZolas, rom Cven<br />
davinaxeT am yvelafris ufro<br />
xmamaRla, sxva formatSi Tqmis<br />
saWiroeba, vidre aris muSaoba<br />
levan murusiZe<br />
jgufebSi, parlamentTan, iusticiis<br />
umaRles sabWosTan da a. S.<br />
yvela zemoTqmulidan gamomdinare,<br />
Cveni kampaniis moTxovnad<br />
rCeba, rom realuri reforma<br />
ganxorcieldes (radgan Tu<br />
kanonis doneze ar iqna sasamarTlos<br />
damoukidebloba garantirebuli,<br />
erT klans meore Secvlis)<br />
da amasTan, politikurma<br />
xelisuflebam pasuxismgebloba<br />
unda aiRos im warumateblobebze,<br />
rac hqonda rogorc sakanonmdeblo<br />
procesSi, ise sab-<br />
Wos wevrebis daniSvnisas da mesame<br />
_ klanuri mmarTveloba daiSalos!<br />
_ gasul kviras korufciis<br />
indeqsi gamoqveynda, romelSic<br />
Cans, rom saqarTvelos mdgo-<br />
mareoba erTi safexuriT gauaresda.<br />
sasamarTlo sistemaSi ram-<br />
denad SeiniSneba korufcia?<br />
_ is, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />
ase aSkaraa, is, rom adamianebi<br />
subieqturad iReben Zalian mniSvnelovan<br />
gadawyvetilebebs, es<br />
aris korufciis erT-erTi forma.<br />
sul ufro mets saubroben<br />
korufciaze (klasikuri gagebiT)<br />
biznesseqtorSi. Cven axla am mimarTulebiT<br />
ar vmuSaobT, Tumca<br />
TviTon is aqtorebi, romelTac<br />
yvelaze xSiri Sexeba aqvT sasamarTlosTan,<br />
amboben, rom qrTamis<br />
aRebis SemTxvevebic yofila.<br />
_ dabolos, rom SevajamoT<br />
mTavari problema da misi<br />
Tqvene<br />
neuli gadaWris gzebi, ra<br />
Roni<br />
nisZiebebs mimarTavT?<br />
_ bevri sakiTxi gamovkveTeT,<br />
mTavari sakiTxebi, rasac reforma<br />
unda Seexos, aris mosamarTleTa<br />
daniSvna, iusticiis umaRlesi<br />
skolis damoukideblobis uzrunvelyofa<br />
(is dRes mTlianad<br />
damokidebulia iusticiis uma-<br />
Rles sabWoze), disciplinuri<br />
pasuxismgebloba, sasamarTloeb-<br />
Si Tavmjdomareebis daniSvna.<br />
CamoTvlili sakiTxebi aqamdec<br />
yofila reformis sagani, Tumca<br />
vxedavT, rom reformam araviTari<br />
Sedegi ar gamoiRo, vinaidan<br />
is ar aris srulyofili an<br />
mxolod fasaduria. realuri Zvrebia<br />
saWiro!<br />
am kampaniis farglebSi davgegmavT<br />
Sexvedrebs konkretul<br />
uwyebebTan da maRali Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebTan, romlebic pasuxismgeblebi<br />
arian procesebze,<br />
gveqneba angariSebis prezentaciebi,<br />
aseve SevimuSaveT konkretuli<br />
kanonproeqtebi da klanis<br />
daSlasTan dakavSirebuli moTxovnebi.<br />
SeCerebas ar vgegmavT!<br />
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