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sasamarTlos~<br />

ebdes mosamarTle, rom Tanamdebobaze<br />

dainiSnos). mosamarTleebs<br />

formalurad afaseben, isini<br />

ramdenime etapian process gadian,<br />

iwereba qulebi, maT Soris<br />

imaze, rom mosamarTlem daakmayofila<br />

keTilsindisierebisa da<br />

kompetenturobis kriteriumebi;<br />

Semdeg etapze ki sakiTxi dgeba<br />

kenWisyraze, ra drosac azrs kargavs<br />

yovelgvari Sefaseba da<br />

faruli kenWisyriT, uvadod, yovelgvari<br />

dasabuTebis gareSe iniSnebian<br />

mosamarTleebi. am wesiT<br />

dainiSnen mosamarTleebi uvadod,<br />

romlebic klanis wevrebad<br />

miiCnevian. damkvirveblebisTvis<br />

`saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli, rom<br />

cnobili unda iyos, Tu ratom<br />

dainiSna an piriqiT, ar dainiSna<br />

araformaluri mmarTvelobis problema gvaqvs!<br />

konkretuli piri am Tanamde-<br />

evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />

bobaze. miuxedavad amisa, Cvenma<br />

Sesrulebis Sefaseba gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />

kanonmdebelma gadawyvita, daex-<br />

weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul gamowvevas<br />

ura Sefasebis qulaTa es siste-<br />

warmoadgens araformaluri mmarTveloba. es ki,<br />

ma da iseTi wesi SemoiRo, romel-<br />

ra Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo sistemazec,<br />

ic farTo SesaZleblobas uto-<br />

iusticiis sabWozec da, saerTod, yvela<br />

vebs klans, rom TviTneburad<br />

instituciaze~<br />

imoqmedos.<br />

_ ramdeni xania, rac es kla-<br />

nuri mmarTvelobaa sasamarTlo<br />

sistemaSi da visgan Sedgeba igi?<br />

_ yovelTvis ase iyo, Cven arasdros<br />

gvqonda damoukidebeli<br />

sasamarTlo, miT ufro, iusticiis<br />

umaRlesi sabWo, is yovelTvis<br />

problemuri gaxldaT.<br />

gvaxsovs periodi, roca saer-<br />

Tod daxuruli iyo da sxdomebic<br />

ki ar imarTeboda, Sesabamisad,<br />

zedmetia saubari, rom iq instituciurad<br />

miiReboda gadawyvetileba.<br />

ra Tqma unda, iqac<br />

konkretuli gavleniani jgufebi<br />

iRebda saboloo gadawyvetilebas.<br />

dRes gansxvaveba is aris,<br />

rom es sxdomebi Riaa da procesis<br />

naxvis SesaZlebloba gvaqvs,<br />

Tumca, Sinaarsobrivad, substanciurad,<br />

araferi Secvlila, _<br />

rogorc muSaobda klani maSin,<br />

ise muSaobs axlac.<br />

saerTaSoriso donezea aRiarebuli,<br />

rom araformaluri mmarTvelobis<br />

problema gvaqvs!<br />

evrokavSirTan asocirebis xelSekrulebis<br />

Sesrulebis Sefaseba<br />

gamoqveynda, sadac pirdapir<br />

weria, rom qveyanaSi seriozul<br />

gamowvevas warmoadgens araformaluri<br />

mmarTveloba. es ki, ra<br />

Tqma unda, aisaxeba sasamarTlo<br />

sistemazec, iusticiis sabWozec<br />

da, saerTod, yvela instituciaze.<br />

_ e. i. maT politikuri mx-<br />

ardaWera aqvT?<br />

_ politikuri, xelisuflebis<br />

mxardaWeris gareSe iusticiis<br />

umaRles sabWoSi aseTi procesebi<br />

da aseTi krizisi ar gveqneboda<br />

(ar vsaubrobT calkeul<br />

problemebze). sasamarTlo sistemaSi<br />

krizisia, igi ver moxdeboda<br />

cudi kanonmdeblobisa da<br />

politikuri nebis gareSe, roca<br />

maT swored is adamianebi daniSnes<br />

iusticiis sabWoSi, romlebic<br />

morCilad xels auweven klanis<br />

wevrebisTvis sasurvel gadawyvetilebas!<br />

_ romelia aRniSnuli klanis<br />

wevrebis<br />

sazogadoebisTvis<br />

cnobili da gaxmaurebuli<br />

saqme?<br />

_ klanis wevrebad moixseniebian<br />

is adamianebi, romlebic yvelaze<br />

xSirad saxeldebian, garedan<br />

Canan, Torem amas kidev ufro<br />

didi lustracia, gamokvleva<br />

sWirdeba. vinmes usamarTlobis<br />

gancda rom ar darCes an klanis<br />

wevroba ar mieweros, es sakiTxi<br />

aucileblad unda SeviswavloT.<br />

dRes es procesi (mag.: mosamarTle<br />

SavaZis gancxadebasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT mamiseiSvilis, ba-<br />

Tumis saqalaqo sasamarTlos<br />

TavmjdomaresTan dakavSirebiT)<br />

dawyebulia, rac safuZveli unda<br />

gaxdes, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />

siRrmiseulad SeviswavloT<br />

da yvela is piri gamoikveTos,<br />

romelic xels uSlis mosamarTleebis<br />

damoukidebel muSaobas.<br />

_ konkretulad, ra roli da<br />

gavlena hqonda TiToeul maT-<br />

gans am procesSi?<br />

_ Cven yvelaze xSirad visac<br />

vasaxelebT, aris mixeil CinCalaZe,<br />

romelic saapelacio sasamarTlos<br />

Tavmjdomarea, manamde<br />

uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomaris<br />

moadgile iyo mravali weli.<br />

rac Seexeba mis mier warmoebul<br />

saqmeebs, wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

mas saqme, faqtobrivad, ar<br />

ganuxilavs. esec sasamarTlo<br />

`girgvlianis saqmis mosamarTle levan<br />

murusiZesTan dakavSirebiT bolo wlebSi<br />

ganviTarebulma movlenebma cxadyo, rom isic<br />

erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani figuraa<br />

sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi. rogorc wina, ise<br />

am Semadgenlobis sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />

yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT klanis wevrebad~<br />

sistemis klanis problemaa, rom<br />

mis wevrebs, rogorc wesi, ar<br />

ewerebaT saqmeebi, TiTqosda,<br />

sxva administraciuli funqciebiT<br />

arian dakavebulebi, amitom<br />

saqmeebs ar ganixilaven xolme.<br />

Sesabamisad, mis saxelTan konkretuli,<br />

romelime saqme SeiZleba<br />

ar asocirdebodes, magram<br />

problema is aris, rom mosamarTlis<br />

fuqcias is ar asrulebs.<br />

arada, erT-erTi yvelaze gavleniani<br />

figura is gaxlavT. amboben,<br />

rom yvela mniSvnelovani sakiTxi<br />

(magaliTad, vin unda dainiSnos<br />

mosamarTled) winaswar swored<br />

masTan Tanxmdeba.<br />

girgvlianis saqmis mosamar-<br />

Tle levan murusiZesTan dakav-<br />

SirebiT bolo wlebSi ganviTarebulma<br />

movlenebma cxadyo, rom<br />

isic erT-erTi ZiriTadi gavleniani<br />

figuraa sasamarTlo xelisuflebaSi.<br />

rogorc wina, ise am Semadgenlobis<br />

sabWos mosamarTle wevrebi<br />

yvela SegviZlia CavTvaloT<br />

klanis wevrebad.<br />

_ romeli ZiriTadi orga-<br />

nizaciebi xarT gaerTianebuli<br />

am axal kampaniaSi „saiasa” da<br />

„saerTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba<br />

saqarTvelos” garda?<br />

_ kampanias awarmoebs koalicia<br />

„damoukidebeli da gamWvirvale<br />

marTlmsajulebisTvis”,<br />

romelic bevr sxva organizaciasTan<br />

erTad aerTianebs: EMC _<br />

„adamianis uflebaTa swavlebisa<br />

da monitoringis centrs”, „Ria<br />

sazogadoeba saqarTvelos”, IDFIs,<br />

„konstituciis 42-e muxls”,<br />

adamianis uflebaTa centrs,<br />

„saqarTvelos demokratiul iniciativas”,<br />

aseve, arian profesiuli<br />

gaerTianebebi, rogoric<br />

aris „sifa”, amerikis savaWro<br />

palata da sxv.<br />

_ 2 wlis winaT Tqven gqondaT<br />

kampania „samarTali iTxovs”.<br />

ra iyo maSindeli kampani-<br />

is mizani da ra cvlilebebia<br />

wlevandel kampaniaSi?<br />

_ maSinac Zveli kampaniis moTxovnebi<br />

iyo is, rom realuri reforma<br />

gatarebuliyo, mosamar-<br />

Tleebis daniSvna maSinac aqtualuri<br />

iyo, vinaidan, mogexsenebaT,<br />

2015-2016 wlebSi mosamarTleebis<br />

masobrivad daniSvnis<br />

procesebi mimdinareobda.<br />

dRes Cvens kampanias daemata<br />

is, rom klani unda daiSalos!<br />

imdenad aSkaraa es klanuri mmarTveloba,<br />

imdenad azri ar aqvs<br />

sxva formaluri da akademiuri<br />

meTodebiT brZolas, rom Cven<br />

davinaxeT am yvelafris ufro<br />

xmamaRla, sxva formatSi Tqmis<br />

saWiroeba, vidre aris muSaoba<br />

levan murusiZe<br />

jgufebSi, parlamentTan, iusticiis<br />

umaRles sabWosTan da a. S.<br />

yvela zemoTqmulidan gamomdinare,<br />

Cveni kampaniis moTxovnad<br />

rCeba, rom realuri reforma<br />

ganxorcieldes (radgan Tu<br />

kanonis doneze ar iqna sasamarTlos<br />

damoukidebloba garantirebuli,<br />

erT klans meore Secvlis)<br />

da amasTan, politikurma<br />

xelisuflebam pasuxismgebloba<br />

unda aiRos im warumateblobebze,<br />

rac hqonda rogorc sakanonmdeblo<br />

procesSi, ise sab-<br />

Wos wevrebis daniSvnisas da mesame<br />

_ klanuri mmarTveloba daiSalos!<br />

_ gasul kviras korufciis<br />

indeqsi gamoqveynda, romelSic<br />

Cans, rom saqarTvelos mdgo-<br />

mareoba erTi safexuriT gauaresda.<br />

sasamarTlo sistemaSi ram-<br />

denad SeiniSneba korufcia?<br />

_ is, rom klanuri mmarTveloba<br />

ase aSkaraa, is, rom adamianebi<br />

subieqturad iReben Zalian mniSvnelovan<br />

gadawyvetilebebs, es<br />

aris korufciis erT-erTi forma.<br />

sul ufro mets saubroben<br />

korufciaze (klasikuri gagebiT)<br />

biznesseqtorSi. Cven axla am mimarTulebiT<br />

ar vmuSaobT, Tumca<br />

TviTon is aqtorebi, romelTac<br />

yvelaze xSiri Sexeba aqvT sasamarTlosTan,<br />

amboben, rom qrTamis<br />

aRebis SemTxvevebic yofila.<br />

_ dabolos, rom SevajamoT<br />

mTavari problema da misi<br />

Tqvene<br />

neuli gadaWris gzebi, ra<br />

Roni<br />

nisZiebebs mimarTavT?<br />

_ bevri sakiTxi gamovkveTeT,<br />

mTavari sakiTxebi, rasac reforma<br />

unda Seexos, aris mosamarTleTa<br />

daniSvna, iusticiis umaRlesi<br />

skolis damoukideblobis uzrunvelyofa<br />

(is dRes mTlianad<br />

damokidebulia iusticiis uma-<br />

Rles sabWoze), disciplinuri<br />

pasuxismgebloba, sasamarTloeb-<br />

Si Tavmjdomareebis daniSvna.<br />

CamoTvlili sakiTxebi aqamdec<br />

yofila reformis sagani, Tumca<br />

vxedavT, rom reformam araviTari<br />

Sedegi ar gamoiRo, vinaidan<br />

is ar aris srulyofili an<br />

mxolod fasaduria. realuri Zvrebia<br />

saWiro!<br />

am kampaniis farglebSi davgegmavT<br />

Sexvedrebs konkretul<br />

uwyebebTan da maRali Tanamdebobis<br />

pirebTan, romlebic pasuxismgeblebi<br />

arian procesebze,<br />

gveqneba angariSebis prezentaciebi,<br />

aseve SevimuSaveT konkretuli<br />

kanonproeqtebi da klanis<br />

daSlasTan dakavSirebuli moTxovnebi.<br />

SeCerebas ar vgegmavT!<br />

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