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me-15 gverdidan<br />
_ vin icoda, rom mama gior-<br />
gi germaniaSi wasvlas apirebda?<br />
_ ecodineboda Sorenas, iakobs...<br />
TviTonac uTxra irakli<br />
mamalaZes, germaniaSi mivdivaro.<br />
_ Tumca, germaniaSi wasvlis<br />
win, ramdenime dRe, mama giorgi<br />
gaqra...<br />
_ uSiSroebis samsaxurma yvelaferi<br />
zepirad icis... sasamar-<br />
Tlos ganCinebiT, ori kviris ganmavlobaSi<br />
mama giorgize TvalTvali<br />
da miyuradeba mimdinareobda<br />
da detalurad ician,<br />
sad iyo da es mec Zalian kargad<br />
vici.<br />
_ sad iyo?<br />
_ cianidis Sovna oficialurad<br />
rom ar sTxoves, mama gior-<br />
gi ratom ar daeWvda?<br />
_ sapatriarqo quCa xom ar<br />
aris, dagxvdebi da Tavs gagitexavo?<br />
_ mama giorgis Sorena<br />
TeTruaSvilTan rogori urT-<br />
ierToba hqonda?<br />
_ xan _ iseTi, xan _ aseTi. idealuri<br />
urTierToba col-qmars<br />
ar aqvs, magram maTi urTierToba<br />
SorenasTvis saintereso ar<br />
iyo da unda dasrulebuliyo...<br />
aq mTeli metastazebia... ra unda<br />
moxdes sapatriarqoSi da vin<br />
unda iyos momavali patriarqi...<br />
_ gogaSvilisa da CubiniZis<br />
garda, saero pirebidan imis<br />
vendobiTo, meore wuTSi ki, _<br />
gamoZiebam Zalian bevri eWvi datovao<br />
da winaaRmdegi ar iyo,<br />
mama giorgi prezidents Seewyalebina,<br />
oRod Tu Cumad iqneboda.<br />
_ ise, prezidentma dekanozi<br />
ratom ar Seiwyala?<br />
_ im komisiaSi aris meufe Teodore<br />
WuaZe, romelic magaTi<br />
jgufis wevria.<br />
_ patriarqis mesaydre Sio<br />
da prezidenti megobrebi ari-<br />
an. amboben, rom Sios patri-<br />
arqoba unda... esec xom ar aris<br />
mizezi, ris gamoc margvelaS-<br />
vili dekanozs ar iwyalebs?<br />
_ yvelaferi SesaZlebelia.<br />
_ saqme strasburgSi rodis<br />
_ diax, magram es konfidencialuria...<br />
_ ratom ar ambobs mTel simarTles<br />
mama giorgi? is sa-<br />
frTxeSia?<br />
_ mama giorgi safrTxeSi<br />
yovelTvis iyo. paralels gavakeTeb:<br />
deda Tamari Zalian did<br />
informacias flobs, Tu ra xdeba<br />
sapatriarqoSi, zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
droidan yvelaferSi<br />
Caxedulia, magram patriarqTan<br />
Sesvla SeuzRudes... keliaSia Caketili<br />
_ lifts ar ukeTeben da<br />
meufe iakobi eubneba, rodis mokvdebio...<br />
dedaom imdeni ram icis<br />
da imdeni raRacis Tqmas apirebs,<br />
vin saidan aris, ra funqciis<br />
matarebelia da dedaosgan<br />
daayenes.<br />
_ uwmindesTan Sexvedra mas<br />
mere aRar gicdia?<br />
_ simarTle giTxra, ara.<br />
_ ratom?<br />
_ yvelafers gaakeTeben, rom<br />
patriarqi ar vnaxo!<br />
_ oxanaSvilTan urTierToba<br />
gaqvs?<br />
_ ara!<br />
_ oxanaSvilma „cianidis<br />
skandalis” yvela detali icis?<br />
_ diax, man Zalian bevri ra-<br />
Rac icis.<br />
_ Tumca ar laparakobs...<br />
_ roca gardauvali dro da<br />
saWiroeba iqneba, yvelafers,<br />
albaT, maSin ityvis.<br />
_ „cianidis saqmeze” amom-<br />
`cianidis saqmis~ ucnobi detalebi<br />
_ baTumSi iyo, sadac stumrebi<br />
hyavda... „daJanguli” mowme<br />
irakli mamalaZe ambobs, gaqrao,<br />
Torem uSiSroebam yvelaferi<br />
icis _ mTeli Canawerebi arsebobs<br />
da saqmeSic devs. satelefono<br />
saubrebic ician, Tu rogor<br />
sTxovda baTumSi kreditis<br />
gamotanas, 15 aTas dolars mama<br />
giorgi.<br />
_ am kreditis aRebas rodis<br />
cdilobda?<br />
_ roca germaniaSi midioda.<br />
_ germaniaSi Tavisi xarjiT<br />
unda wasuliyo?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda. dacvis TanamSromlebs<br />
Tanxa ar hqondaT<br />
da maTTvis unda Caetana. wesiT,<br />
Tanxa iakobs unda gadaexada, magram<br />
Zalian iSviaTad uxdida da<br />
mama giorgim krediti amitom<br />
aiRo... isic zepirad ician, mama<br />
giorgi aeroportSi rogor<br />
mivida.<br />
_ aeroportSi vin miiyvana?<br />
_ Tavisma mZRolma.<br />
_ mZRolic aiyvanes?<br />
_ ara. mZRoli wamovida... mama<br />
giorgim bargi Caabara, gaiara<br />
skanireba... patriarqis dacvis<br />
erT-erTma TanamSromelma aeroportis<br />
uSiSroebis erT-erT<br />
TanamSromels daureka, _ ai, mama<br />
giorgis Rvino moaqvs, gadametebuli<br />
tvirTis gamo problemebi<br />
ar Seeqmnaso da e. w. vipgasasvlelSi<br />
daxvdnen, mere, TviTmfrinavamde<br />
rom misuliyo, avtobusSi<br />
ki ara, „marSrutkaSi” Cajda<br />
da iqidan moipares...<br />
_ asea Tu ise, farul Canaw-<br />
erSi, romelic gamoZiebam<br />
gaavrcela, giorgi mamalaZe<br />
cianids axsenebs...<br />
_ cianidze laparaks irakli<br />
mamalaZe iwyebs... sxvaTa Soris,<br />
arseboben meufeebi, erTi, mgoni,<br />
nikolozia, romlebmac erTerTi<br />
Sexvedris dros mama giorgis<br />
uTxres, _ ori-sami wlis win,<br />
saoqromWedlo saqmianobisTvis,<br />
cianids viyenebdiTo, magram es<br />
meufeebi Cumad arian.<br />
_ saoqromWedlo saqmianobisTvis<br />
cianids, albaT, kanon-<br />
ierad yidulobdnen...<br />
_ diax. SemohqondaT ukrainidan,<br />
magram mere es, albaT,<br />
Caiketa da amitom sTxova Sorenam<br />
mama giorgis.<br />
saqmis kursSi, rom „cianidis<br />
skandali” mzaddeboda, kidev<br />
vin iyo?<br />
_ maSindeli mTavari prokurori<br />
irakli SoTaZe.<br />
_ amas riT askvni?<br />
_ mama giorgis Tavidanve brali<br />
wayenebuli hqonda Sorena<br />
TeTruaSvilis mkvlelobis momzadebisTvis,<br />
Tumca bralis<br />
wayenebidan ori dRis Semdeg<br />
mTavari prokurori acxadebs,<br />
maRali sasuliero piris mokvlas<br />
gegmavda da amiT gadavar-<br />
CineT eklesiao, realurad, sazogadoeba<br />
moatyua.<br />
_ mkvleloba mkvlelobaa,<br />
gind patriaqris iyos da gind<br />
_ misi referentis.<br />
_ diax, magram sazogadoebas<br />
moatyues, patriarqi gadavar-<br />
CineTo...<br />
_ miSiko, saqmes Tu strasburgSi<br />
gaasaCivrebT, advokatebs,<br />
albaT, faqtebi dagWird-<br />
ebaT, riTac daamtkicebT, rom<br />
mama giorgi SeTqmulebis msx-<br />
verplia...<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, gavasaCivrebT<br />
da faqtebic gvaqvs... ise, iakobi<br />
erT wuTSi ambobda, gamoZiebas<br />
N28 (249) 18.09-24.09.2018 w.<br />
meufe iakobi<br />
unda gaasaCivroT?<br />
_ Tvis bolos gavagzavniT...<br />
_ ras moiTxovT strasbur-<br />
gisgan?<br />
_ moraluri zianis anazRaurebas<br />
da yvelas pasuxismgeblobis<br />
dayenebas, vinc am saqmeSi<br />
CarTuli iyo. Tu gaxsovs, girgvlianis<br />
saqmeze strasburgis<br />
gadawyvetilebiT Zieba yvela im<br />
piris mimarT, vinc CarTuli iyo,<br />
Tavidan daiwyo da swored amis<br />
mere daakaves melnikovi, romelic<br />
mere saprocesoTi gauSves...<br />
_ miSiko, advokatebma arae-<br />
rTxel ganacxadeT, am saqmeSi<br />
bevri skandaluri detalia da<br />
Tu mama giorgi uflebas mogv-<br />
cems, gavaxmaurebTo. mainc, ra<br />
aris aseTi skandaluri?<br />
_ am Temas ver Sevexebi...<br />
_ ratom, rame intimuria?<br />
_ diax...<br />
_ es intimuri Temebi sa-<br />
suliero pirebs exeba?<br />
_ diax.<br />
_ anu seqsamde mivdivarT?<br />
_ ar vici... vnaxoT...<br />
_ ras niSnavs, vnaxoT? mama<br />
giorgis ar aqvs SenTvis moyo-<br />
lili?<br />
mec vici...<br />
_ miSiko, patriarqma „ciani-<br />
dis saqmeze” simarTle, bolos<br />
da bolos, gaigo?<br />
_ maSin gaigo, roca pirvelad<br />
SevxvdiT... sxvaTa Soris, am Sexvedris<br />
Semdeg episkoposebs Sevxvdi<br />
da es Sexvedra protestis<br />
niSnad davtove, radgan Tavi pe-<br />
`deda<br />
Tamari<br />
Zalian did<br />
informacias<br />
flobs...<br />
SeuzRudes<br />
patriarqTan<br />
Sesvla...<br />
meufe<br />
iakobi<br />
eubneba,<br />
rodis<br />
mokvdebio...~<br />
dagogTa sabWoze Tu prokuraturaSi,<br />
dakiTxvaze megona!<br />
_ patriarqs „cianidis saq-<br />
mis” detalebi rom uambe, ra<br />
giTxra?<br />
_ miTxra, mama giorgi mkvlelobas<br />
araTu Caidenda, aramed<br />
arc gaifiqrebdao.<br />
_ amis Taobaze uwmindesma<br />
sajaro gancxadeba ratom ar<br />
gaakeTa?<br />
_ germaniidan rom Camovida,<br />
Cven meore dRes SevxvdiT, Semdeg<br />
masTan Sevidnen Sorena, Teodore,<br />
iakobi da uTxres, _<br />
Tqveno uwmindesobav, mama giorgis<br />
pirad TavdebSi rom CaudgeT<br />
da cixidan gamovides, xalxi<br />
linCis wesiT gaasamarTlebs, radgan<br />
xalxma icis, rom mas Tqveni<br />
mokvla undodao, anu patriarqi<br />
moatyues da dilemis winaSe<br />
wurav simarTles Cven, mosaxle-<br />
oba, odesme gavigebT?<br />
_ aucileblad!<br />
_ da advokatebi axla ratom<br />
ar asajaroebT, ras elodebiT?<br />
_ ras velodebiT da, _ garkveul<br />
sakiTxebze sapatriarqos<br />
reagirebas, anu sapatriarqo<br />
apirebda komisiis Seqmnas da dadgenas,<br />
ra moxda. xom unda Sexvdnen<br />
mama giorgis da hkiTxon,<br />
ra, rogor da risTvis moxda?<br />
_ meufe dimitri mama gior-<br />
gis mxaresaa?<br />
_ misi sulieri mamaa... mama<br />
giorgi guldawyvetilia, rom<br />
gaugebari pozicia uWiravs... sxvaTa<br />
Soris, mama giorgi rom daakaves,<br />
pirdapir uTxres, daade<br />
xeli meufe dimitris da soso<br />
oxanaSvils, rom am saqmeSi iyvnen<br />
CarTulebi da Sen gagiSvebTo...<br />
_ rom daiWires, mama giorgim<br />
pirvelad vis daureka?<br />
_ dakavebidan eqvsi saaTis<br />
Semdeg meuRles daureka, advokati<br />
momiyvaneTo.<br />
_ meufe dimitris ratom ar<br />
daureka?<br />
_ meufes xom ar daurekavda,<br />
advokati momiyvaneo?<br />
_ miSiko, „cianidis saqme”<br />
„ocnebis” winaaRmdeg mTavar<br />
samxilad gamodgeba?<br />
_ diax, gamodgeba, radgan is<br />
kadrebi, romlis drosac „cianidis<br />
saqme” Seikera, Cemi ki ara,<br />
„ocnebis” moyvanili iyo da yvelas<br />
pasuxismgebloba dadgeba!<br />
amitomac mivmarTav prezidents,<br />
am qveyanaSi, iqneb, kidev<br />
darCes Rirsebisa da sityvis na-<br />
Teli wertili _ yvelanairi mtkicebuleba<br />
udevs da Tu evropelobaze<br />
gvaqvs pretenzia, imasTan<br />
miaxloebuli gadawyvetileba<br />
mainc xom unda miiRos, ra<br />
ganaCensac strasburgis sasamarTlo<br />
miiRebs?!<br />
hoda, prezidentma mama giorgi<br />
Seiwyalos! minda, mama giorgi<br />
strasburgis mier gamotanil<br />
Tavisuflebas saqarTveloSi<br />
ukve Tavisufali Sexvdes!<br />
_ ise, eklesias giorgi ma-<br />
malaZe ar ganukveTavs, ara?<br />
_ ara. gankveTis safuZveli ar<br />
arsebobs, ubralod, mRvdelmsaxureba<br />
SeuCeres...<br />
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