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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 126<br />

>>>anti-choicers say that it has that right.<br />

>><br />

>>Incorrect. The fetus is not a "trespasser", since it lacks <strong>the</strong> capacity to<br />

>>have a criminal intent -- a 5-year-old is likewise incapable of being a<br />

>>"trespasser". The fetus is at least as much a victim of circumstance as <strong>the</strong><br />

>>woman is. The onset and continuation of pregnancy creates no "aggressor" and<br />

>>no "victim", in a criminal-justice sense.<br />

><br />

>If <strong>the</strong> fetus is inside <strong>the</strong> woman’s body and she doesn’t want it in <strong>the</strong>re,<br />

>she has <strong>the</strong> right to have it evicted,<br />

You said "trespass" before, now you’re switching to "eviction"? Very well<br />

<strong>the</strong>n...<br />

Under what statute may "eviction" proceedings be brought against a minor who<br />

is not legally competent to enter into a leasehold in <strong>the</strong> first place?<br />

Or are you using <strong>the</strong> word in a strange way?<br />

- Kevin<br />

Article 7<br />

Reference 161432<br />

From regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com<br />

Date Tue, Aug 2, 1994 9:24 AM<br />

In article dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (ZZYZX) writes:<br />

>Or maybe, and I realize that this is just a stretch, maybe <strong>the</strong> pro-life<br />

>movement really believes abortion is murder. Personally I am<br />

>pro-choice. However I know a lot of intelligent pro-lifers, many<br />

>of whom are not religious, have sex, and don’t have a hidden agenda of<br />

>controlling all women. They just happen to believe that abortion is<br />

>muder.<br />

Do <strong>the</strong>y happen to believe that self-defense is murder, too? Do <strong>the</strong>y happen<br />

to believe that organ seizure is "ok"? Do <strong>the</strong>y happen to support <strong>the</strong><br />

connection of dying violinists to people who protest, as well? They may<br />

well think it’s murder, but did <strong>the</strong>y stop thinking <strong>the</strong>re? What do <strong>the</strong>y<br />

think about forcing <strong>the</strong> woman to undertake a risk she has no willingness<br />

to undertake? About forcing women to support a fetus against <strong>the</strong>ir will?<br />

Do <strong>the</strong>y think about that part? At all? Or do <strong>the</strong>y figure "too bad"?<br />

Do you suppose <strong>the</strong>y have <strong>the</strong> same attitude about o<strong>the</strong>r technological failures?<br />

>Believe it or not,<br />

>different people can come to different opinions about an issue without<br />

>one side being evil or mislead.<br />

Perhaps. But are <strong>the</strong> pro-lifers willing to acknowledge that people of<br />

good faith might have an opinion different from <strong>the</strong>m, and *not* act to<br />

impose <strong>the</strong>ir opinion upon o<strong>the</strong>rs? After all, pro-choicers aren’t forcing<br />

pro-lifers to have abortions. They aren’t forcing pro-lifers to do much<br />

of anything. Pro-choicers do, however, fully expect to be able to govern<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir own lives according to <strong>the</strong>ir own beliefs, and are running into<br />

roadblocks erected by <strong>the</strong>se non-evil non-mislead persons who have different<br />

opinions.

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