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APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 150 Please describe the physical restraints used on these unwilling abortion patients, how many of the "parents and boyfriends" were in the were in the examining room while the abortion was being performed. Oh, and then there is the matter of the waiver and release papers that the patient signed in their absence, stating that this was HER decision and that the procedure is one that SHE was requesting........... Article 35 Reference 161891 From kkelly@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 1:06 PM ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes: ->steiner@netcom.com (Mike Steiner) writes ... ->> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) wrote: ->>>keegan@helios.acm.rpi.edu (james g. keegan jr.) writes ... ->>>>prove that persons do not ahve the right to their ->>>>bodies and the contents of their bodies. ->>> ->>>Easy. If you steal a 4 carat sapphire and swallow it, you gain _no_ ->>>rights over it merely because it is now a content of your body. The ->>>rightful owner retains all rights to it. Wrong. If it threatens the life of the thief, then if it needs to be destroyed then it can be. ->> [..] ->> From whom is a fetus ->>stolen? ->Non sequitur. Person do not have total rights over anything that may ->happens to be within their body that is not part of their body. Let us know when the sapphire starts using bodily resources of the woman Ray. Chuckle. [...] Article 36 Reference 161827 From ckalina@gwis.circ.gwu.edu Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 1:10 PM In article , Jeff Kirvin wrote:
APPENDIX A. TALK.ABORTION: AUGUST 9, 1994 151 >Prove that a >=3 month fetus is a sentient human being and not simply >a bag of tissues with the potential to _become_ a human being. Prove to me that you are a sentient human being and not just a bag of tissues with a somewhat complex system of organization (or for that matter a computer program cleverly trained to mimic a human pro-choicer). We are all just bags of tissues, friend. BTW, are you endorsing restrictions on post-first-trimester abortions? -- Charles P. Kalina, Lizard King of the Universe "If women ran the world, there would be no wars. Instead, nations would tease each other until they developed eating disorders." My opinions are my own, but they should be everyone’s... :-) Article 37 Reference 161510 From jrmo@prpix2.pr.att.com Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 1:44 PM Lisa Ann Kazmier writes: >Simply put, this group wishes by government action to compell >any woman to take her pregnancy to term. Even when the law did >so, many women sought ways around this, for their own reasons, >which were numerous and cannot be classifed as typically >convenience or economics or anything else. It seems the message >is "we’ll leave you alone -- after you have the child." But by >then that woman’s life is undeniably altered, whether or not >she raises the baby. Simply put, this group wishes by government action to compel doctors to preserve human life. When the law did so, doctors and quacks illegally performed procedures that undeniably eliminated human lives for convenience or economics or something else. This group doesn’t wish to compel women to breed. By her own actions, the woman’s life is undeniably altered whether or not she aborts or brings the child to term. Joe Moore Article 38 Article161522 From jrmo@prpix2.pr.att.com Date Wed, Aug 3, 1994 2:02 PM Jim C writes: >I’m also well aware that in Puritan >New England it was perfectly legal to kill your children until they were 16, Well we certainly don’t want to intrude into people’s lives, I suggest we return to the pro-choice stand and allow parents to raise (or kill) their children as they choose. No one choice is right for all people. What if they are poor and can’t afford the child? What if the child is retarded? What if the child gets D’s in school? Not only should we repeal all the child abuse laws and child murder laws, because children
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