A Grievous Wolf - Time for Truth

“There were among [the translators] no Roman Catholics, Jews or women.
Protestants, roughly or smoothly within the Church of England...”
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They were male
Paine lists the 47 translators assigned to the translating committees for the 1611 Holy Bible plus 10 others
who contributed to the work, such as Thomas Bilson, editor, in Appendix 1 of his book, pp 184-185.
No-one named Froy, or Roy, appears among them or in the index to Paine’s book.
Moreover, Wolf has given a wrong reference. The second half of 1 John 5:8 is not the main disputed
passage, as the following comparison shows. The underlined words are either cut out, NIV/TNIV, or
disputed, NKJV, by the modern versions.
The 1611 Holy Bible states:
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these
three are one” 1 John 5:7.
“And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these
three agree in one” 1 John 5:8.
The NIV states:
“For there are three that testify:” 1 John 5:7.
“the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement” 1 John 5:8.
By inspection, it is the second half of 1 John 5:7 that contains most, i.e. 15, of the 19 words in dispute,
not that of 1 John 5:8. Grievous Wolf did not check the reference.
The validity of 1 John 5:7, 8 as found in the 1611 Holy Bible is described in detail in the article James
White’s 7 Errors pp 10-17. See www.timefortruth.co.uk/content/pages/documents/1309647419.pdf.
A further summary of the validity of 1 John 5:7, 8 as found in the 1611 Holy Bible may be found in
Curley the Bible Corrector, Part 3, www.timefortruth.co.uk/content/pages/documents/1302983577.pdf.
Both the above references contain a summary explanation of why the disputed words are missing from
most Greek manuscripts that contain 1 John. Dr Mrs Riplinger’s succinct explanation contains the essential
points and reads as follows, from Hazardous Materials p 750, noting that it was those that are
now known as Greek Orthodox monks who refused to copy 1 John 5:7, 8 into their manuscripts.
“Controversies about the nature of the Godhead have abounded throughout history. The Greeks who
worshipped the gods of mythology and the “UNKNOWN” God, recoiled at a verse which describes the
Godhead, then concludes, “This is the true God...” (Acts 17:23, 1 John 5:20). The weak Greek monks
caved in and simply omitted the verse which stirred the antagonism of unbelievers.”
Two other most informative sites are:
And These Three Are One by Will Kinney, brandplucked.webs.com/1john57.htm
The Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7) by Martin A. Shue, www.avdefense.webs.com/1John5-7.html
The following material is from Bro. Kinney’s site, his emphases, showing in detail that Wolf is lying
about the witnesses for 1 John 5:7, 8.
Concerning the supposed origin of 1 John 5:7, 8 in the Vulgate that Wolf, implies, Bro. Kinney has this
statement from his colleague, researcher Tim Dunkin.
“...we see that Jerome specifically mentioned that this verse was being removed from Greek manuscripts
in his day. Logically, we can suppose that for him to recognize the absence of this verse as an
omission from the Greek texts, he must have been aware of Greek manuscripts which contained the
Comma in the time of his preparation of the Vulgate for the general epistles (395-400 AD), a time much
earlier than is suggested by the dating of currently known Comma-containing Greek mss...”
Bro. Kinney continues with respect to early witnesses for 1 John 5:7, 8, several of which by inspection
pre-date Jerome’s Vulgate.