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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Let me be clear, these beings—the Atlanteans—were infinite, meaning they<br />

did not have spacetime regulation. <strong>The</strong>y lived after the body died. However, the Anunnaki<br />

created a set of planes or dimensions of experience that was the equivalent of a Holding<br />

Plane, that’s what the WingMakers called it, where they could be recycled.”<br />

Sarah: “Recycled… as in reincarnation”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Yes, later on this became the basis of reincarnation. It allowed the Anunnaki<br />

to recycle the Atlanteans. Some aspects of the implanted functionality were interdimensional,<br />

which is to say, it could assist in the delivery of the beings to the proper location within the<br />

Holding Planes of consciousness, and assist in their reincarnation back into a new vessel.”<br />

Sarah: “But you said that they… the ape-men didn’t have reproduction”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Not in version 1.0. <strong>The</strong>se were very basic. But the Anunnaki could create<br />

them in large scale, so when one human uniform expired—let’s say they had a mining<br />

accident—another would be made. <strong>The</strong>se were clones. <strong>The</strong> ability to self-reproduce came in<br />

version 2.0. That was mostly because the amount of effort required to manage this process<br />

was enormous, on the part of the Anunnaki. <strong>The</strong>y wanted to create an automated system,<br />

something that wouldn’t require them to orchestrate all of the variables. So the Sirians<br />

helped them to create the implants that could propagate through reproduction. This enabled<br />

automation of the recycling of the beings from the Holding Planes to be born into the<br />

physical dimension through a baby.”<br />

Sarah: “So, this was all automated… by programming… technology I don’t know, this is<br />

too weird.”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “<strong>The</strong> universe is made up of dimensions that are a result of mathematical<br />

equations. It is constructed from mathematics. Some beings understand how to apply<br />

mathematical equations to organize and plan spacetime. It’s all created. This world is created,<br />

it’s not real. It’s a programmed reality.<br />

“When I say plan, it can also be construed as control of spacetime. That is to say, this is a<br />

programmed spacetime reality. Once you can program spacetime reality within a species like<br />

humanity, you can program at the individual level of a person, right down to when they itch<br />

their nose, if you want to. It’s all mathematical equations.”<br />

Sarah: “I don’t know… what to say. For now, I’ll go along with you, but it really sounds like<br />

fiction to me. So, what happened to the ape-men”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “I mentioned Marduk. He was intimately involved in the evolution of the<br />

species. That was his role. Of all the Anunnaki, he was the closest to the Human 1.0s. He<br />

understood them and even admired certain aspects of them. Unconsciously, perhaps, he<br />

began to alter their programs so the Human 1.0s behaved more like the Anunnaki.<br />

“As they began to take on the characteristics of the Anunnaki, Anu and his sons, Enki and<br />

Enlil, were concerned by this. Marduk was programming emotions and feelings. He was<br />

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