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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

all. <strong>The</strong> process is free, it only requires time. <strong>The</strong> process is not owned by anyone. <strong>The</strong><br />

process is not part of anything but you. Once you stand at the trailhead of that process, it’s<br />

yours to follow or reject. Everyone must achieve this realization of oneness and equality in<br />

life on earth. That is our call to action as a species. And in my opinion, anyone or anything<br />

that tells you otherwise is lost.<br />

“One more thing, the story strand may be exactly what activates someone to the Sovereign<br />

Integral process, and I think that was the point that the WingMakers took with their<br />

information. Everything about their work is signaling the individual to the Sovereign Integral<br />

process and the realization of <strong>The</strong> Grand Portal.”<br />

Sarah: “If Anu is what we have been taught is god, then who is Lucifer”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “It is precisely for this reason that you have to be sovereign. Because in the<br />

world where Anu is god, it is easy to presume that Lucifer is the real bearer of light. But<br />

remember what I’ve said over and over, everyone is lost in this Hologram of Deception. If<br />

all are lost, how can anyone lead you to truth <strong>The</strong>y can’t. <strong>The</strong> truth is self-expression of<br />

your infinite self in the human form upon earth. That is the closest definition of truth that I<br />

know. It may not be the same for you or whoever reads this in the future, but this is my<br />

definition of truth.<br />

“Does Lucifer advocate this I’m not aware that he does. If anyone is not supporting my<br />

truth objective, then why would I let them move me in any other direction, even an inch<br />

“You ask who Lucifer is. <strong>The</strong>re are a thousand ways to answer that question—several of<br />

them I already have. To add another definition, he is not a polarity of Anu or his puppet. At<br />

a fundamental level he lives in equality and oneness the same as we. Is he awakened I don’t<br />

know. I haven’t met him. I haven’t talked with him. If I do, my first question of him will be,<br />

does he support the freedom of human beings, the kind I have just defined, and if he says<br />

‘yes’ then I will accept his word until I see evidence to the contrary. If he says ‘no’ I will<br />

remove myself from his presence. If he says ‘maybe’ I would have a conversation with him<br />

and invite him to support this movement.<br />

“Everyone is waking up. I realize it seems like the activation is in super slow motion, but in<br />

seventy to eighty years a huge shift can occur in humanity’s realization of what is really<br />

happening in this world. <strong>The</strong>re is no way to hide this. It’s already in the unconscious mind<br />

layer and it will continue to spill out until we push the wall down.”<br />

Sarah: “This is more a comment or observation than a question, but the Sovereign Integral<br />

process seems existential instead of transcendental. It also seems like a solo journey instead<br />

of an organized group who are supporting one another. Is my perception accurate”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Partly, yes. I think the sovereign aspect is what you’re picking up on. It’s an<br />

internal process for the individual to develop within themselves, but the integral aspect is a<br />

collective, and I don’t mean that as an organizational structure. This process needs to be<br />

outside of any organization’s or individual’s hands. It’s not possible to own this or control it<br />

within an organizational structure. I think people can use the Internet and email to support<br />

one another. Some will want this kind of support; others may prefer to be left on their own.<br />

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