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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

Sarah: “How did you do that”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “It takes great alertness to live and express in the now. Human beings have the<br />

tendency to live in our past memories or future concerns. This was what I was doing and it<br />

took me from the now. And the now is where our life essence expresses. It isn’t in the past<br />

or future, only the consciousness framework pivots between past and future, so if you find<br />

yourself in there, you know you are not in your essence.<br />

“When I realized this, I read from the WingMakers philosophy that breath was the magnet<br />

of nowness. It was the element that brought the human being into nowness by being aware<br />

of their breathing. I also learned that there were different kinds of breathing that enabled<br />

this sense of nowness to penetrate more vividly into the Hologram of Deception.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> point is that simply being aware of my breath helped, as the WingMakers put it, to<br />

center me in stillness. This, by the way, doesn’t mean that you’re in a quiet room. You can be<br />

in a meeting at work, and center yourself in stillness through your breath. But by being in<br />

this internal centeredness I was in a better position to feel my own sense of expression, and<br />

that’s what was missing in my initial efforts to integrate this process. I didn’t have a good<br />

starting point for my practice of the heart virtues, and I was directing them outward—to<br />

other people or events, and not myself first.<br />

“Once I made that adjustment, it helped me to identify my essence and distinguish it from<br />

my mind system. Life essence is authentic in oneness and equality and exclusively moves in<br />

nowness. <strong>The</strong> consciousness framework pivots between the past, present and future and<br />

operates in separation. If you express the heart virtues from the consciousness framework,<br />

especially outwardly, they won’t have the same potency or effect.”<br />

Sarah: “You’ve mentioned the idea of resistive and insertive behaviors, and I think I<br />

understand the insertive behaviors in terms of expressing the heart virtues to one’s self and<br />

others, but talk a little bit about the resistive behaviors. What are they, and how does that<br />

work”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Again, you need to start from the point of distinguishing your life essence in<br />

the now. Center yourself in nowness through being still and breath aware. Initially this may<br />

take some time, but it happens quicker with practice. Thought patterns that connect you to<br />

separation need to be stopped. Behaviors, too.<br />

“You can simply say, I’ve identified a behavior that supports separation in this world. Let’s<br />

say I have believed that Muslims are less moral than atheists, and therefore less likely to get<br />

into heaven than someone who doesn’t even believe in god. This is a belief or thought form<br />

that relates to separation. I can say, stop that, but it’s not really effective for most people. I<br />

can resist the belief every time it expresses itself in my life, but many of these beliefs are so<br />

subtle and subconscious that we don’t even realize how they express themselves in our<br />

behaviors and choices.<br />

“If you apply the heart virtues to yourself, like forgive yourself for having these perceptions,<br />

have some compassion for yourself that everyone is infected with these separation beliefs<br />

from their subconscious and unconscious mind layers. Be humble that making this resistive<br />

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