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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

“It created a perfect polarity of human beings progressing to the Kingdom of god while<br />

demons seduced and ensnared them. Angels and ascended masters were guides to show the<br />

way to the waiting kingdom. Eastern traditions used demigods, hierarchies of masters,<br />

meditation, but it was based on the very same polarity, which at its most basic level was light<br />

as good, and darkness as evil.<br />

“So with that said, let me return to your question about Lucifer and the Animus. <strong>The</strong> story<br />

of Lucifer is like a prop on a stage. With Lucifer in play, the stage is more dangerous. You<br />

can place blame. You can deflect blame and responsibility from the morally righteous and<br />

god-fearing humans. You can infer that your enemies are enslaved by demons that do the<br />

bidding of Lucifer or Satan.<br />

“This creates conflicts that lead to wars. This creates histories of conflict which sow<br />

generation after generation of people who are living their forefathers’ conflict. Amid all of<br />

this, god grows in stature and importance. Everyone wants to claim that god is on their side.<br />

“Lucifer was a catalyst to enlarge the importance of Anu. To make humans dependent on<br />

him even though they never saw him, heard him, tasted him, smelled him or touched him.<br />

He was in the universal field vis-à-vis the unconscious mind. It was programmed this way,<br />

and religious culture only made it feel more real.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> Animus were the Human 3.0 in the trajectory envisioned by Anu to support his infinite<br />

supremacy over humanity. His goal was to synthesize humanity with technology. <strong>The</strong><br />

Animus were us in a potential future. <strong>The</strong>re are government organizations, corporate entities<br />

and research institutions that share this same goal even as we speak.”<br />

Sarah: “How did the decision get made not to release everything”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “I’ve said that the WingMakers materials are extensive. <strong>The</strong>re are twenty-four<br />

philosophical papers, but only four will be released. <strong>The</strong> four interviews we’ve previously<br />

done, as I told you, these four will be released, possibly not all at once, but those have been<br />

sanctioned.<br />

“This interview and the remaining twenty philosophy papers will not be released until certain<br />

conditions are met. What those conditions are, I don’t know. I assume it has to do with the<br />

discovery of the portal—the human portal I mentioned—and getting the crack in the wall<br />

established in this world. Once a foothold is made in establishing the inception point,<br />

perhaps then the other materials can be released.<br />

“As for how the decision is made, let me be very clear that this is not my decision. It is<br />

determined by the WingMakers. An intervention from time-travelers is a very sensitive<br />

operation. Many variables need to be weighed and considered.”<br />

Sarah: “Forgive my blunt question here, but how do you know that the WingMakers aren’t<br />

part of this whole deception”<br />

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