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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

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Sarah: “Couldn’t you just tell me what parts are story, and what parts are true”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “I could, but this isn’t how I’ve been asked to release the information.”<br />

Sarah: “But I’ve invested a lot of time in this already, and if I invest my reputation as well,<br />

then I need to focus on the true parts, otherwise, I can’t substantiate anything when I’m<br />

asked if, in my opinion, it’s a true story.”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Everyone wants to know the absolute truth. <strong>The</strong>y want someone to point to<br />

this phrase or that precept or that doctrine and explain to them that that is truth, believe it.<br />

That’s been the game on this planet ever since humans began to contemplate their universe<br />

in a philosophical manner. All the shared truth has gotten us where Where we kill children<br />

to punish leaders Where leaders lock people up in death camps Where religious leaders<br />

abuse children So I would ask you, what is the value of the information that has collectively<br />

brought humanity here<br />

“You want the signposts of truth. No one can do that, and your proof… is that no one has.”<br />

Sarah: “Why”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Because we are sovereign and we must experience ourselves in this way, and<br />

not let others decide what it is we should or shouldn’t believe, or what is truth or falsehood.<br />

I wish we didn’t live in a Hologram of Deception, but that is our human reality, and whining<br />

about it will not change it one iota. Studying the supposed masters of truth will not change it<br />

either.<br />

“I can show you a library of books that expound on esoteric information. Some of these<br />

books were written as nonfiction, and by all appearances they seem to be credible and<br />

insightful, and yet if you listen carefully to the words, you see how they are separating you<br />

from one another. How they define a Hierarchy. How they define a soul that is always<br />

learning, a human that is always sinning and weak. How they describe a universe that is<br />

infinitely layered. How the light illuminates those who follow certain practices. It can be very<br />

subtle. <strong>The</strong>y can be talking about oneness, but there are judgments present in the words, or<br />

recriminations if you don’t execute the practice properly, or suggestions that you don’t mix<br />

this practice with anything else or it is diminished, or join and promote this path over that<br />

one.<br />

“Part of the Sovereign Integral process is to practice your discernment of what enables you<br />

to believe in you, not the universe or some master or teaching, but you, stripped bare of all of<br />

your add-ons, beliefs, thought patterns, fears, guilt, stories, judgments, blames, pretenses…<br />

everything that hangs on you from the past. If you could drop them all—everything you<br />

have been taught and told and programmed to believe—what would be left to hear Silence.<br />

Deep, clear silence. That is you.<br />

“When you find that, you will then know that everyone has that, too. Anu does, Lucifer<br />

does, Jesus does, your neighbor does, your spouse does. Everyone. So what proof do you<br />

need to find that What proof can I show you or tell you to give you that I can’t. I can<br />

convey a process that if you follow it, you might find this experience inside you, but that’s<br />

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