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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

the reality that confusion and disaffection reaches into the world’s populations and dulls our<br />

collective minds and hearts.<br />

“<strong>The</strong>re is hope. Hope resides in the vacuum of unity and oneness that is unaligned to<br />

anything on this planet—no one owns it or controls it or administers it. <strong>The</strong>re is no<br />

mediation or go-between. It is completely unique. For all intents and purposes, it has never<br />

been seen or heard. It is on the other side of the wall. This is our hope, as foreign and<br />

strange as it may seem.<br />

“What is in this world is not working, and it is because of separation. I don’t care if you read<br />

the most esoteric, spiritual information on this planet, it is of separation. I’ve read esoteric<br />

spiritual documents over the past twenty years that would make most people swoon and say<br />

to themselves ‘this is the highest information’ or ‘this information is true because it is so<br />

detailed, no one could possibly know this much detail unless it was true.’<br />

“<strong>The</strong> most esoteric information on this planet was not written by human beings, but through<br />

human beings vis-à-vis channeling. <strong>The</strong> channeling speaks of wonderful spiritual realities, of<br />

how humans and aliens are one, of how the deep psychology of human beings is<br />

constructed, of the complex cosmological environment in which humanity is nested. All<br />

wonderful information except no one mentions how we are enslaved, or why, or by whom.<br />

Not one.<br />

“If these wonderful sources of information knew about how humanity is enslaved, wouldn’t<br />

they share it Isn’t this the most basic point of information What the WingMakers call the<br />

inception point Why hasn’t any of this esoteric literature shown this I’ll tell you, because<br />

the beings are either inside the hologram and don’t realize it themselves, or are part of the<br />

deception and are guarding its discovery from humans. <strong>The</strong>y’re no different from us—us, as<br />

infinite beings. <strong>The</strong>y’re lost in this Hologram of Deception as much as we are.<br />

“For those of you who read this interview and are unsettled by it… I can only say, good, you<br />

should be. It’s a reality check on a cosmic, universal and individual level. You can bathe in<br />

the splendor of spirituality and quench your thirst with the presented masters, or you can<br />

deepen your understanding of the reality that confronts us and stand up committed to apply<br />

your self-expression in service to truth. To walk your life in the expression of resistive and<br />

insertive behaviors. To be sovereign and integral.<br />

“It isn’t about spouting high spiritual concepts in thoughts and words. That is the reflex of<br />

the consciousness system—it’s parroting and robotic. Live the I AM WE ARE in your<br />

behaviors and leave the mind. Shutter it. <strong>The</strong> mind is programmed to compare and analyze,<br />

which feeds the me-you separation…<br />

“Sorry about that, I got a little carried away with my answer.”<br />

Sarah: “No, it was good to hear your passion for this. I guess the thing that’s interesting to<br />

me is that the WingMakers materials are esoteric, at least to me, and they seem to be<br />

explaining cosmological systems and psychological structures, how is it different than what<br />

you were just saying about the channeled information”<br />

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