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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

“My point is that either the designers of the higher dimensional planes or humanity as a<br />

collective could potentially accelerate or decelerate <strong>The</strong> Grand Portal.”<br />

Sarah: “What if there was a tug of war like the higher beings wanted it sooner and humanity<br />

wanted it later”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “I don’t know. I suspect the higher dimensional beings would listen to the<br />

resistance. I really don’t have an opinion on that one.”<br />

Sarah: “One day, hopefully in the not too distant future, a person will read this interview.<br />

What advice would you give them”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Everyone has thoughts and emotions. Everyone shares a reality called earth<br />

and the human body. We’re all on the same stage, playing different roles, but the stage<br />

unifies us to some degree. None of us can look across the stage and see a beautiful world of<br />

peace and harmony, or goodwill to all men. It isn’t the reality that encompasses us.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> question is how do we move closer to a reality that supports our most innate truth,<br />

that I AM WE ARE How do we create a stage and write a play that supports our<br />

transformation into the Sovereign Integral that is in fact what we each are Has religion<br />

shown the way Has spirituality How about science How about our education system<br />

Government<br />

“My point is that nothing that is currently in play is uniting us in equality and oneness. If you<br />

look at everything in your world after you read this interview, you will see that our world is<br />

designed for a very specific function, and this function is to feel separation. It can be as<br />

obvious as the color of skin, gender and different cultures, to the subtler distinctions<br />

between religions and spirituality, but the design is fractal and it infuses everything in this<br />

world in this common unity I have called separation. Ironically, our unity is separation.<br />

“If you agree, if you also see or sense this separation, you might also decide that it’s<br />

escalating, not moving in the direction of unity, but further towards diversification and<br />

distinction, as if the more granular humanity becomes in its information access and<br />

expression, the more it drifts apart into clumps of similarity that feign unity within the<br />

clump, but expresses separation to the whole.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> leaders of this world, whether they come from political, economic, military, religious or<br />

cultural perspectives, know how to speak the language of unity and oneness, but their<br />

actions are the result of programs that often act in reverse. This isn’t about thoughts and<br />

language. This is about behaviors and actions. People know how to disconnect from their<br />

thoughts and say one thing, and then do another. <strong>The</strong>y know how to feign care, but their<br />

actions demonstrate hollowness.<br />

“This is not an indictment to every standing solution, but nothing has worked. Religion’s<br />

failure has birthed the nihilistic and disillusioned organizations of darkness and occult<br />

experimentation. <strong>The</strong>y feed off one another. It’s symbiotic survival. But what is lost in this is<br />

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