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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

through the constructs of separation and deception. This occurs with issues that human<br />

beings can relate to like scarcity, preservation of a race, unintended consequences of<br />

decisions, service to self instead of service to truth. All of these elements were in the<br />

behavioral equations of Anu and his Sirian accomplices.<br />

“At some point, the lessons are learned. <strong>The</strong> entire experiment solidifies and hardens to such<br />

a degree that it cannot really compress anymore. Its value rapidly diminishes from that point.<br />

When this happens, beings will intervene. In our case, we intervened in the form of<br />

humanity returning to warn of this reality, hence the WingMakers intervention. As for why<br />

we are talking, it’s simple. Marduk is not the only one who can program.”<br />

Sarah: “And what does that mean”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “In today’s world we have programmers who can write code that take the user<br />

of that code from one experience to the next. It moves them from point A to point B.<br />

Programming is an aspect of time. It’s a directional process.<br />

“You’re aware of hackers. <strong>The</strong>y come in all sizes. Earlier this year a fifteen-year-old kid<br />

hacked into the US Air Force. Even Microsoft is finding it impossible to protect its NT OS.<br />

<strong>The</strong> hacker mindset is again a manifestation of separation. It is a polarity. A mind game of<br />

sorts, complete with ego and sometimes greed. Mostly, it’s a reminder that whatever’s a<br />

fortress remains vulnerable. <strong>The</strong> program that Marduk created is similar in concept to our<br />

software programming, but infinitely more complex and advanced. However, as any hacker<br />

will tell you, anything can be hacked with the right technology and skill.<br />

“Our programs have been hacked. We’ve been altered. We’re not connected in the same way<br />

to the grid lines that rule this hologram that I called Bubble One, a little earlier.”<br />

Sarah: “Who… who did the hacking”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “I can’t give you a name. I don’t know. I’ve been told that there’re many<br />

resources that are being used to create the crack in the wall, and then, from the inside—<br />

that’s us, humanity—we’ll push the wall down collectively and walk out of this prison. We’re<br />

part of the crack.”<br />

Sarah: “I don’t remember volunteering.”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “For what it’s worth, neither do I.”<br />

Sarah: “Okay… I’m going to shift the conversation a bit. In my notes from Saturday you<br />

said the following: ‘That the WingMakers claimed that the three-dimensional five-sensory<br />

domain that humans have adjusted to is the reason we are only using a fractional portion of<br />

our intelligence. <strong>The</strong>y claimed that the time capsule would be the bridge from the threedimensional<br />

five-sensory domain to the multidimensional seven-sensory domain.’<br />

“How does that relate to tonight’s conversation, and what exactly is the time capsule”<br />

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