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<strong>The</strong> Fifth Interview of Dr. Jamisson <strong>Neruda</strong><br />

WingmakersTM<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “At some point you have to trust your feelings and intuition, otherwise<br />

everything is just a purposeless mental exercise. I can’t say that I’m 100 percent confident.<br />

As a scientist, I’m disbelieving by nature, but everything I’ve read and studied is consistent to<br />

their stated goal, which is to establish a new inception point for human beings in this specific<br />

time.<br />

“<strong>The</strong>ir first disclosure is a cloaked message of hope; an energetic rewiring of the spiritual<br />

philosophies of this planet away from masters, organizations, hierarchies and belief. It is<br />

more focused on becoming a spiritual activist or practitioner of behavioral intelligence. It is<br />

about activating pre-Sovereign Integrals who are able to understand the evolutionary scope<br />

of the human being and help it to veer in the direction of the Sovereign Integral.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> next or second disclosure will be the activation of the human portal. I don’t know yet<br />

how this will unfold, only that it will happen relatively soon.<br />

“<strong>The</strong> third disclosure will be the fifth interview and possibly other material. When the fifth<br />

interview is released, it signals that the inception point has already been made. According to<br />

the WingMakers, this means that <strong>The</strong> Grand Portal will occur on this planet. Once the new<br />

inception point is anchored, it will unfold to plan.<br />

“I have made the decision that if the second disclosure occurs, I will commit to this plan 100<br />

percent. Until then I have told the WingMakers that I am with them and will conduct my<br />

actions according to their insights and guidance, but I will always have doubt in my mind<br />

until I see that the second disclosure occurs.”<br />

Sarah: “What if no one believes this, Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong> What if you release this fifth interview<br />

sometime in the future and no one can relate to it or, as you suggested, they attack it What<br />

then Is the human portal sufficient to make this whole thing happen”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Yes. That’s what I have been told. Once the inception point is anchored, it<br />

will all unfold to plan.”<br />

Sarah: “So no one needs to believe this… it’ll just happen That doesn’t sound right.”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “This information will remain in the underground, but science, according to<br />

the WingMakers, will be the force to actually prove out this information.”<br />

Sarah: “How”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Science will find the walls. <strong>The</strong>y won’t expose the crack or necessarily assist<br />

in the demolition, but they will expose the walls—”<br />

Sarah: “But you said that LERM was discovered by the ACIO, and they thought of it as<br />

God or universal intelligence or whatever it was.”<br />

Dr. <strong>Neruda</strong>: “Yes. I’m not saying that science will define the Hologram of Deception as an<br />

insidious ruse perpetrated on humanity to enslave infinite beings to operate as finite, fearbased<br />

diminishments of themselves. That’s not my point. But those sovereign entities that<br />

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