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am da sxva mniSvnelovan Temebze
„qronika+~ „erTiani saqa-
rTvelo _ demokratiuli
moZraobis” lider nino bur-
janaZes esaubra:
_ xelisuflebasa da opozi-
cias Soris ar dasrulebula
kamaTi imaze, Catardeba Tu ara
proporciuli sistemiT 2020
wlis saparlamento arCevnebi.
sadResaswaulo periodiT gan-
pirobebuli pauza xom ar
Seanelebs saprotesto muxts
sazogadoebaSi?
_ es pauza absoluturad
bunebrivi iyo, amaze Cven gavakeTeT
kidec gancxadeba. ubralod,
araadekvaturi iqneboda
1-2 ianvars an Tundac 7 ianvars
opoziciis aqtiuri Sexvedrebi
da komentarebi yofiliyo am
TemasTan dakavSirebiT. yvelafers
Tavisi dro da adgili aqvs.
RvTis wyalobiT, jerjerobiT,
da imedia, asec iqneba, procesebi
mSvidobiania. aqedan gamomdinare,
iseTi forsmaJori ar
iyo, rom axali wlis dReebSi
isedac datvirTuli da Sewuxebuli
adamianebi kidev ufro
dagvetvirTa. Zalian samwuxaro
realobaa is, rom ver vnaxe adamiani,
romelsac saaxalwlo
ganwyoba hqonda, Cemi CaTvliT.
miuxedavad imisa, rom Zalian
miyvars axali weli da gacilebiT
ukeTesi ganwyoba SeiZleba
mqondes, vidre bevr adamians,
imdenad mZime fonia qveyanaSi,
romc ar giWirdes, mainc ar
gaqvs saaxalwlo ganwyoba. amitom,
bunebrivia, swori iyo, rom
garkveuli pauza aviReT, maT
Soris, amas ganapirobebda diplomatiuri
korpusis aryofna
qveyanaSi da isic, rom procesi
daiZra. rac ar unda ilaparakos
xelisuflebam, rom am Sexvedrebs
Sedegebi ar hqondao,
faqtia, Sedegebi aris, maT Soris,
sazogadoebisa da axalgazrdebis
aqtiurobis TvalsazrisiT.
Tqven gaxsovT, xelisufleba
ambobda, rom saerTod
ar apirebda saubars da aranair
sakiTxs ar ganixilavda, magram
miuxedavad aseTi kategoriuli
gancxadebebisa, maT calkeuli
winadadebebis SemoTavazeba
daiwyes, maT Soris, sakonstitucio
cvlilebebisac. ase rom,
Zalian bevria damokidebuli
imaze, ramdenad mkveTri da Tan-
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`opoziciis mTavari berketi
jer kidev gaurkvevelia, ro
jer kidev gaurkvevelia, ro-
nene injgia
gori saarCevno sistemiT Catarde-
nino
591 71 39 98 ba 2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebi.
xelisuflebasa da opozi-
cias Soris kamaTi ar dasrulebula. dialogis procesi log-
ikurad dapauzda axali wlisa da sadResaswaulo periodis gamo.
2019 wels, mas Semdeg, rac „qarTulma ocnebam” sakonstitucio
burjanaZe:
cvlilebebi Caagdo, opozicia da sazogadoebis didi nawili am
faqts aqtiurad aprotestebda. „erTiani saqarTvelo _ dem-
okratiuli moZraobis” lideri nino burjanaZe acxadebda, rom
revoluciur scenars ar gamoricxavda. ras fiqrobs am gadmo-
saxedidan revoluciur scenarze? ra berketebi aqvs opozicias
imisTvis, rom 2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebi proporciuli
saarCevno sistemiT Catardes?
mimdevruli iqneba Tavis moTxovnebSi
opozicia da ramdenad
seriozulad iaqtiurebs sazogadoeba
da gansakuTrebiT,
axalgazrdebi. vfiqrob, opozicia
namdvilad SeZlebs, xelisuflebis
mxridan bevri mcdelobis
miuxedavad, proporciuli
arCevnebis moTxovnasTan dakav-
SirebiT erToba SeinarCunos,
radgan es ar aris romelime
partiis moTxovna, es aris sazogadoebis
dakveTa, brZola ki
Zalian mniSvnelovania.
_ ra berketebi gaqvT am
mocemulobaSi opozicias imisTvis,
rom xelisufleba aiZu-
loT, proporciuli saarCevno
sistemiT Caataros 2020 wlis
saparlamento arCevnebi?
_ mTavari berketi aris opoziciuri
politikuri partiebis
Tanmimdevruli brZola da
opoziciuri magidis erToba,
radgan es aris pirveli SemTxveva
saqarTvelos istoriaSi,
rodesac yvela politikuri
partia simpaTiebis, antipaTiebisa
da mtrobis miuxedavadac
ki, gaerTianda erTi moTxovniT
ivaniSvilisa da „qarTuli ocnebis”
winaaRmdeg, rom movipovoT
proporciuli, Tavisufali
da demokratiuli arCevnebi.
Zalian mniSvnelovani berketia
sazogadoeba da media, es yvela
qveyanaSi gadamwyvetia da mas
Cvens SemTxvevaSic principuli
mniSvneloba eqneba. umniSvnelovanesia
saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobis
zewola, radgan igi
Zalian aqtiuri da mowadinebulia,
rom qveyanaSi normaluri
arCevnebi Catardes.
_ gasul wels araerTxel
aRniSneT, rom ar gamoricx-
avdiT revoluciur scenars,
Tu xelisufleba proporciul
arCevnebs ar dasTanxmdeboda.
ra SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba ganvi-
Tardes es scenari?
_ revoluciuri scenaris
ganviTarebis aranairi survili
ar maqvs, radgan Zalian kargad
vici, rom yvelaze naklebad Zaladobriv
revoluciasac ki
yovelTvis mZime procesebi
moyveba. rodesac revoluciaze
vsaubrob, es Cemi survili ki ar
aris, piriqiT, es aris Cemi SeSfoTeba,
rom SeiZleba viTareba
am gziT wavides da xelisuflebas
vafrTxileb, rom es aravi-
`revoluciuri
scenaris
ganviTarebis
aranairi
survili
ar maqvs~
Tar SemTxvevaSi ar unda moxdes!
ase rom, es vaiviSi, rac
„qarTuli ocnebis” trolebma
atexes, TiTqos burjanaZes revolucia
unda, arc erT Cems sityvaSi
msgavsi araferi yofila.
revolucia arc 2003 wels mindoda.
CemTvis rom daejerebina
maSindel xelisuflebas SevardnaZis
xelmZRvanelobiT, „vardebis
revolucia” ar moxdeboda,
magram iqneboda evoluciuri
ganviTarebis gza. aseve
arc saakaSvilma daijera, rasac
veubnebodi da, praqtikulad,
revoluciamde miiyvana qveyana.
revolucia ar minda, aramed
qveynis evoluciuri ganviTareba,
magram ugunur xelisuflebebs
Tavisi araswori moqmedebebiT
qveynebi revoluciamde
mihyavT da Cvens xelisuflebas
vafrTxileb, rom es ar moxdes.
vaitrolebs kidev vetyvi, rom
didad Tavs nu Seiwuxeben, radgan
me ar vkiTxulob ugunuri
da uwignuri adamianebis, 5 miliardis
brwyinvalebaze gayiduli
adamianebis komentarebs.
Tumca informacia maqvs, ama Tu
im gamonaTqvamze rogori interpretaciis
mibmas cdiloben
kudad.
_ mediaSi vrceldeba informacia,
rom SesaZloa, premierministris
postze biZina iva-
niSvili dabrundes. eqspertTa
nawilis azriT, amiT „qarTul
ocnebas” xelisuflebaSi dar-
Cenis Sansi eqneba. iziarebT Tu
ara am pozicias?
_ jer erTi, ivaniSvilis politikaSi
mosvla Secdoma iyo
imitom, rom oligarqi xelisuflebaSi
mosvlas ar unda cdilobdes.
roca xelisuflebaSi
Zalian didi biznesmeni modixar,
es ar niSnavs, rom politika
kargad ici. marTalia, ivaniSvils
egona, yvelafers sam Tve-
`es monacemebi xelisuflebisTvis
katastrofulia, radgan arasdros yofila
xelisuflebisadmi ndoba aseTi dabali. miT
ufro, arasdros iyo ndobis vardna im
masStabis, rogoric am xelisuflebis
pirobebSia iseTi struqturebisadmi, rogoric
aris Tundac jari an prezidenti~
14 N1 (303) 21.1-27.1.2020 w.
Si daalagebda, magram vxedavT,
rom ukve 7 weli gavida da absoluturad
araferi ar dalagebula,
ubralod cxovreba im
adamianebma dailages, viszec
ivaniSvilma aqcenti gaakeTa. mis
politikaSi mosvlas me, Tavis
droze, imitom mivesalme, rom
misi saxsrebidan da SesaZleblobidan
gamomdinare, is saSualebas
iZleoda, saakaSvili usisxlod
gagveSva da es, ra Tqma
unda, mniSvnelovani iyo. is
unda darCeniliyo premier-ministris
Tanamdebobaze. rodesac
pirvelad gacxadda informacia,
rom ivaniSvili gadadgomas
da CrdilSi wasvlas apirebs, me
mas Riad mivmarTe, rom ar wasuliyo,
radgan zustad vicodi,
ras gamoiwvevda Crdilovani
mmarTveloba. axla misi dabruneba
ramdenad uSvelis situacias,
rTuli saTqmelia, _ is,
rogorc partiis Tavmjdomare,
dabrunda da piroba mogvca,
rom yvelafers daalagebda, magram,
realurad, veraferi dalagda.
rac Seexeba xelisuflebis
ara absoluturi, aramed
raRac nawilis SenarCunebas,
amis Sansi ivaniSvils namdvilad
eqneba, Tu is adekvaturad moiqceva,
arCevnebs normalurad
Caatarebs da am erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi
ar Seecdeba Savi fulis
gamoyenebas oponentebis,
mediis, sasamarTlosa da prokuraturis
winaaRmdeg. aseT
SemTxvevaSi mas namdvilad eqneba
SesaZlebloba, rom xelisuflebis
raRac nawili misi kontrolis
qveS darCes.
_ NDI-is axali kvlevebis
mixedviT, xval rom saparla-
mento arCevnebi tardebodes,
jamSi opozicias imaze meti
adamiani uWers mxars, vidre _
„qarTul ocnebas”. raze metyvelebs
es faqti da rogor un-
da gamoiyenos opoziciam es
mocemuloba?