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591 71 39 98<br />
axalgazrdebisgan<br />
daclili<br />
raionebi da soflebi Cveni realobis nawili gaxda, romelsac<br />
versad gaveqceviT. swored realobisgan da uperspeqtivobis-<br />
gan garbian axalgazrdebi soflebidan dedaqalaqSi, dedaqala-<br />
qidan ki _ sazRvrebs miRma.<br />
ratom ar aqcevs saxelmwifo<br />
axalgazrdebs yuradRebas da<br />
problemebs mizanmimarTulad<br />
aignorebs? ra aris dRes Cveni<br />
qveynis mTavari gamowveva?<br />
rubrika „axalgazrda politikosebSi”<br />
„qronika+” „Tavisu-<br />
fali demokratebis” yofil<br />
wevrsa da samoqalaqo aqtivist<br />
vladimer gorozias esaubra:<br />
_ vladimer, ram ganapiroba<br />
politikiT Tqveni daintereseba<br />
da Tavis droze ratom gadawyviteT<br />
„Tavisufal demok-<br />
ratebSi” gaerTianeba?<br />
_ rogorc erT-erTi rigiTi<br />
moqalaqe, aqtiurad vadevnebdi<br />
Tvals politikur procesebs,<br />
mainteresebda da msurda, didi<br />
doziT CavrTuliyavi masSi. rodesac<br />
universitetSi Cavabare,<br />
studentobis periodidan moyolebuli,<br />
2006 wlidan Cavebi<br />
politikur procesebSi damoukideblad,<br />
arc erT politikur<br />
partiasTan ar mqonia urTier-<br />
Toba. 2010 wels ise sainteresod<br />
ganviTarda movlenebi,<br />
CemTvis arsebiTad misaRebi iyo<br />
„Tavisufali demokratebis”<br />
lideri, Cemi Sexedulebebic daemTxva<br />
partiis Sexedulebebs,<br />
gundic profesionalebiT, saqmeze<br />
orientirebuli adamianebiT<br />
iyo dakompleqtebuli. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, gadavwyvite, am<br />
politikuri gaerTianebis wevri<br />
vyofiliyavi. 2010 wlidan 2016<br />
wlamde gaxldiT „Tavisufali<br />
demokratebis” wevri, 2016 wlis<br />
saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg<br />
wamovedi.<br />
_ ratom datoveT „Tavisufa-<br />
li demokratebi”?<br />
_ rodesac adamianTa jgufi<br />
an ori adamiani erTmaneTTan<br />
raRac sakiTxebze Tanxmdeba,<br />
yovelTvis aris garkveuli Tanxvedris<br />
wertilebi, magram rodesac<br />
dasaxuli miznisken mimavali<br />
gzidan gadauxveven da partia<br />
droSi ascdeba politikur<br />
procesebs, CemTvis, rogorc aqtiuri<br />
moqalaqisTvis, msgavsi<br />
politikuri dRis wesrigi miuRebelia.<br />
Cveni xedvebi konkretul<br />
sakiTxze ar daemTxva _ rogorc<br />
politikuri partia da<br />
rogorc rigiTi moqalaqe ver<br />
SevTanxmdiT. amitomac miviRe<br />
gadawyvetileba, dametovebina<br />
„Tavisufali demokratebi”, ris<br />
Semdegac arc erTi politikuri<br />
partiis wevri ar vyofilvar.<br />
_ „Tavisufali demokratebis”<br />
datovebis Semdeg sxva par-<br />
tiaSi aRar gawevriandiT, amis<br />
mizezi iyo Tu ara is, rom politikuri<br />
procesebi iseTi jan-<br />
saRi ar aRmoCnda, rogorsac<br />
elodiT?<br />
_ mxolod msurda, rom politikuri<br />
aqtivobisgan Tavi Semekavebina,<br />
ufro metad davkvirvebodi<br />
procesebs da samoqalaqo<br />
seqtoridan ufro gansxvavebuli<br />
kuTxiT Semetana wvlili Cemi<br />
qveynis gansaviTareblad. ar aris<br />
savaldebulo, romelime politikuri<br />
partiis wevri iyo, Tu<br />
Seni qveynis sakeTildReod rame<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
konkretuli nabijis gadadgma<br />
gsurs, amas ar sWirdeba partiis<br />
wevris mandati. es nebismier<br />
adamians SeuZlia gaakeTos Tavisi<br />
Sexedulebisamebr. ar aris<br />
aucilebeli konkretuli organizaciis<br />
saxeli qudad gqondes<br />
morgebuli.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, ra aris<br />
dRes Cveni qveynis axalgazrde-<br />
bis mTavari problema?<br />
_ pirvel rigSi, axalgazrdebis<br />
mTavari gamowvevaa TviTdamkvidrebis<br />
problema. upirvelesad,<br />
mainc, ganaTlebis xarisxis<br />
dabali done da dasaqmeba, is socialuri<br />
problemebi, romelic<br />
qveyanaSi mZvinvarebs da ara mxolod<br />
axalgazrdebs awuxebs, aramed<br />
saxelmwifoebrivad problemadaa<br />
qceuli. am sakiTxebis gadasaWrelad<br />
konkretuli politikuri<br />
SeTanxmebis safuZvelze<br />
iseTi programa unda SemuSavdes,<br />
romelic qveyanas dRevndeli<br />
krizisuli mdgomareobidan<br />
gamoiyvans. Zalian aqtiurad var<br />
CarTuli axalgazrdebTan, regionebSic<br />
xSirad miwevs maTTan<br />
Casvla, bevri axalgazrda mxvdeba,<br />
romelic absoluturad mowyvetilia<br />
realobas da sakuTar<br />
Tavs ver poulobs sakuTarsave<br />
qveyanaSi. maT imis gancda aqvT,<br />
rom dRevandel politikur Zalebs<br />
saerTod ar ainteresebs<br />
rogor unda gadaiWras axalgazrdebis<br />
problemebi. problemis<br />
gadaWris gzebze saubrisas<br />
mxolod calsaxad politikur<br />
partiebsa da maT pasuxismgeblobaze<br />
saubari ar SeiZleba, es<br />
ormxrivi sakiTxia, TiToeulma<br />
axalgazrdam unda gaiTavisos<br />
Tavisi pasuxismgebloba sakuTari<br />
qveynis, winaprebisa da momavali<br />
Taobis winaSe, Torem calke<br />
politikuri partiebis pasuxismgeblobaze<br />
saubriT saxelmwifo<br />
ar Sendeba.<br />
_ aRniSneT, rom mniSvnelovania,<br />
axalgazrdebma gaacnobieron<br />
TavianTi pasuxismgebloba.<br />
dRes qarTveli axalgazrde-<br />
bi saTanadod ver acnobiereben<br />
pasuxismgeblobas?<br />
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom axalgazrdebis<br />
raRac nawili aqtiur<br />
procesebSia CarTuli, Tundac<br />
politikuri partiis axalgazrduli<br />
mimarTulebiT, Tundac<br />
samoqalaqo seqtoris ganviTarebis<br />
kuTxiT an Tundac individualurad,<br />
mainc vfiqrob, rom es<br />
arasakmarisia Sedegis misaRebad.<br />
Tu detalurad ganvixilavT am<br />
yvelafers, qveynis masStabiT axalgazrdebis<br />
5-10% SeiZleba<br />
iyos aqtiurad CarTuli am procesebSi,<br />
rac absoluturad ar<br />
gansazRvravs axalgazrdebis SesaZleblobebs.<br />
amavdroulad,<br />
xelisuflebam, konkretulma<br />
uwyebebma da politikurma partiebma<br />
unda gadadgan iseTi<br />
qmediTi nabijebi da iseTi axagazrduli<br />
politika SeimuSaon,<br />
romelic axalgazrdebs daainteresebs<br />
da Tavis damkvidrebis<br />
stimuls miscems. adamianuri<br />
resursi _ tvinebi _ qveynis gan-<br />
vladimer gorozia:<br />
`axalgazrdebi<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
sakuTar Tavs<br />
ver pouloben~<br />
viTarebisTvis umniSvnelovanesia,<br />
amitomac unda iyos ormxrivi<br />
SeTanxmeba da molaprakebebi.<br />
amas unda iziarebdes rogorc<br />
xelisufleba, aseve opoziciuri<br />
partiebi da samoqalaqo<br />
seqtori. Cven erToblivad vqmniT<br />
saxelmwifos. TiToeulma<br />
Cvenganma unda SevitanoT Cveni<br />
wvlili saxelmwifos ganviTarebaSi.<br />
aucileblad aRsaniSnia axalgazrdebis<br />
problemebTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT TviTrwmenis arqona,<br />
rac fobiebiT aris gamoxatuli,<br />
magaliTad: „Cems azrs aravin<br />
iTvaliswinebs”, „me aravin arafers<br />
mekiTxeba, aravin mismens”...<br />
axalgazrdebs minda movuwodo,<br />
rom es ase namdvilad ar aris.<br />
Zalian niWieri Taoba mxvdeba,<br />
imaze metad saqmeze orientirebuli,<br />
vidre dRes arian sakanonmdeblo<br />
organoSi. am axalgazrdebs<br />
Zalian saintereso xedvebi<br />
da ideebi aqvT, am yvelafers<br />
ki generireba da swori mimarTulebis<br />
micema sWirdeba,<br />
rom axalgazradas ar hqondeT<br />
gancda, TiTqos saxelmwifoebriv<br />
ganviTarebas absoluturad<br />
mowyvetili arian.<br />
_ swored imitom, rom axal-<br />
gazrdebi mowyvetilebi arian<br />
saxelmwifoebrivi ganviTarebis<br />
process, maT uperspeqtivobis<br />
gamo uCndebaT qveynis datove-<br />
bis survili. ramdenad sagan-<br />
gaSo viTarebaa am kuTxiT?<br />
_ Tu gaviTvaliswinebT 2012<br />
wlidan 2018 wlamde monacemebs,<br />
daaxloebiT milion 800 aTasma<br />
datova qveyana. qveynis datovebis<br />
msurvelTa raodenoba izrdeba,<br />
axalgazrdebi Cvens qveyanaSi<br />
sakuTar Tavs ver pouloben,<br />
Tavis damkvidreba uWirT.<br />
saxelmwifom unda Seqmnas is<br />
`rodesac adamianTa jgufi an ori adamiani<br />
erTmaneTTan raRac sakiTxebze Tanxmdeba,<br />
yovelTvis aris garkveuli Tanxvedris<br />
wertilebi, magram rodesac dasaxuli<br />
miznisken mimavali gzidan gadauxveven da<br />
partia droSi ascdeba politikur procesebs,<br />
CemTvis, rogorc aqtiuri moqalaqisTvis,<br />
msgavsi politikuri dRis wesrigi miuRebelia~<br />
dRis wesrigi da saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
xedva, romelic axalgazrdebs<br />
daainteresebs da Tavis<br />
damkvidrebis safuZvels miscems.<br />
vaxsene, rom xSirad miwevs<br />
regionebSi siaruli. raionebi<br />
da soflebi absoluturad daclilia<br />
axalgazrdebisgan. magaliTad,<br />
viyavi TianeTSi, sadac,<br />
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom mamalic ki<br />
ar yivis, iseTi soflebia, axalgazrdebs<br />
saerTod ver SexvdebiT,<br />
erTi-ori Tu moiZebneba.<br />
nacvlad imisa, rom axalgazrdebs<br />
regionebSi, soflebSi<br />
darCenis survili gavuCinoT,<br />
Cveni xelisufleba mizanmimarTulad<br />
qmnis iseT realobas,<br />
rom rac SeiZleba metma adamianma<br />
datovos qveyana, iseT regulaciebs<br />
axorcielebs, romelic<br />
TviTdamkvidrebis yvelanair<br />
wyaros spobs, adamians<br />
iZulebuls xdis, sakuTar Tavsa<br />
da qmedebebze uari Tqvas. aseve<br />
aucileblad unda aRvniSno<br />
erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi<br />
problema, _ ganaTlebis sistemis<br />
ararseboba. am pirobebSi ara<br />
mgonia, satrabaxo gvqondes. namdvilad<br />
ver vityviT, rom ganaTlebis<br />
kuTxiT reformatorebi<br />
varT da im moTxovnebs vpasuxobT,<br />
rac dagviwesa evrokavSirma,<br />
evrosabWom da a. S. umTavresi<br />
problema codnis kapitalis<br />
danergva, teqnologiebisa da<br />
ekonomikis ganviTarebaa. am sami<br />
ZiriTadi fundamenturi sakiTxis<br />
gareSe axalgazrdisa da miT<br />
umetes, saxelmwifosa da adamianuri<br />
resursis ganviTareba<br />
yovlad SeuZlebelia. ramdenic<br />
ar unda visaubroT problemebze,<br />
saboloo jamSi, mivdivarT<br />
ganaTlebis problemasTan. ganaTlebuli<br />
Taoba da sazogadoeba<br />
qmnis ganaTlebul da Zlier<br />
saxelmwifos. damoukideblobis<br />
dRidan moyolebuli dRemde<br />
ukve meramdene xelisufleba<br />
SevicvaleT, magram arc erT xelisuflebas<br />
dRis wesrigSi ar<br />
hqonia nomer pirvel problemad<br />
dayenebuli saxelmwifo sazRvrebis<br />
demarkacia. warmogidgeniaT,<br />
rom romelime saxelmwifos<br />
ar hqondes Tavisi sademarkaco<br />
xazi dadgenili?! magaliTad,<br />
me ar vici, sad aris saqarTvelo-azerbaijanis,<br />
saqarTvelo-somxeTis<br />
sazRvari, erTaderTi<br />
vici saqarTvelo-Turqe-<br />
Tis sazRvari, romelic sarfzea.<br />
ruseTis federaciasTan sazRvrebze<br />
saubari xom saerTod<br />
zedmetia! rodesac saxelmwifoebriv<br />
problemaze vsaubrobT,<br />
diax, es aris nomer pirveli<br />
problema, am problemis mogvarebis<br />
gareSe ar SeiZleba Tqva,<br />
rom Sen xar saxelmwifo, yovelgvari<br />
dramatizebisa da gada-<br />
Warbebis gareSe vambob. evrokav-<br />
Siris qveynebi moqmedeben erTi<br />
sazRvris principiT, magram maT<br />
mainc aqvT sazRvrebi dadgenili.<br />
aSS mkacrad gansazRvravs<br />
meqsikasTan sazRvars; israelic,<br />
TurqeTic. CvenTan ki ar arsebobs<br />
imis politikuri neba, rom<br />
sademarkacio politika Semu-<br />
Savdes. problemebis mogvareba,<br />
pirvel rigSi, saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis<br />
sistemis mowesrigebiT<br />
unda daiwyos da aseve unda<br />
gatardes saxelmwifosTvis misaRebi<br />
ganaTlebis politika.<br />
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