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2020 wlis saparlamento arCev-<br />
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nino burjanaZe:<br />
rogor emzadeba „demokratiuli<br />
moZraoba” 2020 wlis sapar-<br />
lamento arCevnebisTvis? partia,<br />
romelsac xSirad ixseneben pro-<br />
rusul politikur Zalad,<br />
rogor apirebs am kliSes moxsnas<br />
da gegmaven Tu ara partiaSi axa-<br />
li saxeebis Semoyvanas?<br />
aRniSnul TemebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
„qronika+” esaubra „demokra-<br />
tiuli moZraobis” lider nino<br />
burjanaZes:<br />
_ q-no nino, pirvel rigSi, minda<br />
gubaz sanikiZesTan dakavSire-<br />
biT gkiTxoT, man partia datova.<br />
ra iyo amis mizezi? Tavad<br />
isaubra, Tumca sainteresoa<br />
Tqveni mosazreba.<br />
_ me SemiZlia gavimeoro mxolod<br />
is, rac iyo Cvens gancxadebaSi,<br />
romelic gaakeTa partiis<br />
pres-samsaxurma da rac Tqva Tavad<br />
batonma gubazma. Cven visaubreT,<br />
gvqonda SesaZlebloba, rom<br />
arsebuli movlenebi kidev erTxel<br />
gagveanalizebina, strategiul<br />
sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT Cven absoluturi<br />
Tanxmoba gvaqvs, xolo<br />
mTel rig taqtikur sakiTxebTan<br />
dakavSirebiT sxvadasxva arCevani<br />
arsebobs, Tu rogor unda imoqmedos<br />
politikurma Zalam. me da batonma<br />
gubazma am saubris Semdeg<br />
miviCnieT, rom am viTarebaSi sworia<br />
saerTo miznisTvis brZola,<br />
rasac hqvia qveyanaSi demokratiuli<br />
xelisuflebis mosvla da<br />
qveynisTvis sasikeTo saqmeebis gakeTeba,<br />
am mimarTulebiT umjobesi<br />
iqneba, Tu „demokratiuli mo-<br />
Zraoba” da batoni gubazi damoukideblad<br />
gaagrZeleben saqmianobas.<br />
Cven Cveulebrivi urTier-<br />
Toba gvaqvs, rogoric gvqonda,<br />
iseTi, Cven mxolod politika ar<br />
gvakavSirebs da es sakmaod cnobilia.<br />
absoluturad normaluri<br />
procesia, rodesac adamiani gadawyvets<br />
gundidan damoukideblad<br />
saqmianobis ganxorcielebas. Cven<br />
orivem erTmaneTs vusurveT warmateba<br />
saerTo saqmeSi da ar aris<br />
gamoricxuli, Cveni aqtiurobis<br />
gzebi kvlav gadaikveTos an, Sei-<br />
Zleba, paralelurad, sxvadasxvagvarad<br />
wavides. ase rom, es ar aris<br />
iseTi Tema, romelsac SeiZleba<br />
mudmivi msjeloba mohyves. me da<br />
batonma gubazma amaze visaubreT<br />
da vfiqrob, es sazogadoebisTvis<br />
sakmarisia.<br />
_ Tqven ganacxadeT, rom<br />
strategiul sakiTxebze erTnairi<br />
poziciebi gaqvT, mxolod taqtikur<br />
Temebs uyurebT gansxvavebulad.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi verSeT-<br />
anxmebis mTavari mizezi iyo Tu<br />
ara gaerTianebul opoziciasTan<br />
erTad brZolis gagrZelebis sa-<br />
kiTxi?<br />
_ am Temebze saubars ar vapireb.<br />
mec da batonma gubazmac,<br />
rac saWirod miviCnieT, vTqviT da<br />
am Temaze gancxadeba gavakeTeT.<br />
danarCeni momavalSi gamoCndeba,<br />
Tu ra nabijebs gadavdgamT.<br />
_ gasagebia. Sualeduri<br />
arCevnebis Sedegebi gansazRvravs<br />
Tu ara 2020 wlis saparlamento<br />
arCevnebis Sedegebs?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, gansazRvravs,<br />
radgan dResac absoluturad<br />
naTlad Cans, rom xelisufleba<br />
emzadeba Sualeduri arCevnebis<br />
gasayalbeblad da 2020 wlis arCevnebis<br />
gasayalbebladac moemzadeba<br />
. amitom Sualedur arCevnebs<br />
yovelTvis aqvs mniSvneloba, miT<br />
umetes, rodesac es arCevnebi ax-<br />
los aris momaval arCevnebTan.<br />
Zalian naTlad vxedav, rom Tu xelisufleba<br />
ar airCevs gonivrul<br />
gzas, ar Secvlis, realurad, saar-<br />
Ceevno garemos da ar daiwyebs<br />
opoziciasTan seriozul saubars,<br />
oRond ara iseTs, rom satelitebad<br />
aqcios opozicia da opoziciis<br />
marTva gadawyvitos, aramed realur<br />
konsultaciebs; Tu biZina<br />
ivaniSvili isev Seecdeba, rom 2020<br />
wels kvlav mis xelSi darCes absoluturi<br />
Zalaufleba saqarTveloSi,<br />
es, ra Tqma unda, Zalian seriozul<br />
problemebs gamoiwvevs;<br />
rac Cans zugdidSi, radgan mosaxleobis<br />
Zalian did nawils ar unda<br />
biZina, aseve did nawils ar unda<br />
saakaSvili, Tumca es polarizeba<br />
awyobs rogorc biZinas, aseve<br />
_ saakaSvils. magram, vfiqrob, rom<br />
TandaTanobiT es realoba icvleba,<br />
2020 weli Zalian mZime da da-<br />
Zabuli iqneba xelisuflebisTvis.<br />
_ Tu 2020 wlisTvis opoziciis<br />
konsolidacia Sedga, ra SemTx-<br />
vevaSi iqneba „demokratiuli<br />
moZraoba” aseT opoziciur gaer-<br />
TianebaSi?<br />
_ arCevnebisTvis arasdrosaa<br />
gamoricxuli gaerTianebebisa Tu<br />
koaliciebis Seqmna. ra Tqma unda,<br />
gamoricxulia Cveni da „nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis” an Cveni da „evropuli<br />
saqarTvelos” gaerTianeba.<br />
es absoluturad erTmniSvnelovania,<br />
magram aris politikuri Zalebi,<br />
Tumca mcire, radgan ivaniSvilma<br />
maT gasanadgureblad yvelaferi<br />
gaakeTa. arian, aseve calkeuli<br />
adamianebi, visTanac saubari<br />
SeiZleba. gulwrfelad rom giTxraT,<br />
jerjerobiT, amisTvis mzad<br />
ar varT, magram, ra Tqma unda,<br />
arafris gamoricxva ar SeiZleba.<br />
_ 2020 wlisTvis ras gegmavT<br />
axal saxeebTan dakavSirebiT?<br />
Tqveni Svili politikaSi movida.<br />
mas, ra Tqma unda, warmatebas vu-<br />
surveb da iqneba Tu ara es „dem-<br />
okratiuli moZraobisTvis” axali<br />
saxeebis Semoyvanis dasawyisi?<br />
_ ar SeiZleba, politikaSi axali<br />
saxeebis Semoyvana TviTmizani<br />
iyos, radgan politika ar aris<br />
sporti, sadac axalgazrdoba da<br />
siaxle, umetes SemTxvevaSi, warmatebis<br />
motanis garantia. rogorc<br />
wesi, politikaSi piriqiT xdeba.<br />
warmatebis motanis garantebi<br />
arian is adamianebi, romelTac<br />
aqvT gamocdileba, gaukeTebiaT<br />
da SeiZleba gaufuWebiaT kidec<br />
da amitomac ician im simZimis fasi,<br />
rac mohyveba xolme Secdomas,<br />
an raime araswori nabijis gadadgmas.<br />
arc erT normalur qveyanaSi<br />
25, 26 da arc 30 wlis asakSi<br />
ministrebad da premier-ministrebad<br />
adamianebs ar niSnaven. Cven<br />
amas vakeTebT da amis Sedegsac<br />
vimkiT. politikas gamocdileba<br />
sWirdeba da SemiZlia sakuTari<br />
magaliTiT absoluturad pirdapir<br />
giTxraT: roca parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomare viyavi, es gamocdileba<br />
rom mqonoda, rac dRes<br />
maqvs, gacilebiT efeqtiani da<br />
Zlieri parlamentis Tavmjdomare<br />
viqnebodi, vidre viyavi. rac Seexeba<br />
axal saxeebs, „qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
axalma saxeebma es kidev erTxel<br />
daadastures, adamianurad me<br />
maTi sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs<br />
da SesaZloa, maT mimarT keTilganwyobac<br />
mqondes, magram politikurad,<br />
ubralod, samarcxvinoebi<br />
arian, radgan absoluturad<br />
araswor gancxadebebs akeTeben.<br />
isini martivad amboben, rom, magaliTad,<br />
raRac pirvelad xdeba<br />
saqarTveloSi, am dros ar ician,<br />
rom es ukve gakeTebulia, amaze<br />
ukve namsjelia da gadawyvetilebac<br />
ki miRebulia. dRes ki amis<br />
safuZvelze moqmedeben. es yvelaferi<br />
araprofesionalizmis na-<br />
Tel STabeWdilebas tovebs, rac<br />
etyoba kidec qveyanas. rac Seexeba<br />
Cvens partias, madloba minda<br />
gadagixadoT, rom Cems Svilsa da<br />
partiis wevrs warmateba usurveT,<br />
Tumca vityodi, rom mas mxolod<br />
simbolurad SeiZleba axali saxe<br />
davarqvaT, radgan is am partiaSi<br />
daarsebis dRidanaa. man da misma<br />
megobrebma daaarses partiis axalgazrduli<br />
frTa, romelic<br />
Zalian efeqtiani iyo 2009 wlis<br />
saprotesto aqciebis dros da<br />
mTeli am 10 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />
misi da misi megobrebis Tavze gadaira<br />
kargmac da cudmac, rac am<br />
partiaSi xdeboda, maT Soris, sakmaod<br />
rTulma da umadurma saqmeebma,<br />
radgan, rogorc wesi, isini<br />
saqmes akeTebdnen da naklebad Candnen.<br />
Cveni partiis axalgazrdebi<br />
2 ivniss gamoCndebian yrilobaze.<br />
es adamianebi, TavianTi axalgazrduli<br />
asakis miuxedavad sakmaod<br />
gamocdilebi arian politikur<br />
brZolebSi. yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />
ki Semdegia: Cveni partiis<br />
axalgazrdebma ician, rom<br />
bevri ram ician, magram aseve ician,<br />
rom aris raRacebi, rac ar ician,<br />
rasac swavla da dro sWirdeba.<br />
maT ar aqvT uazro ambiciebi.<br />
dRes zogierTi axalgazrda quCa-<br />
Si rom gaaCero da premier-ministroba<br />
SesTavazo, SeiZleba, uari<br />
ar Tqvas. Cven aseTi axalgazrdebi<br />
ar gvyavs. Cven gvyavs axalgazrdebi,<br />
romlebmac bevri ram ician<br />
da bevri ram gamoiares, magram<br />
agrZeleben swavlas, aseve mzad<br />
arian konkretulad imisTvis,<br />
razedac acxadeben mzaobas, rom<br />
amis gakeTeba SeuZliaT. gnebavT,<br />
partiis erT-erTi lideroba Tu<br />
parlamentis wevroba da a. S.<br />
_ am mimarTulebiT mmarTveli<br />
gundis gaaqtiureba niSnavs Tu<br />
ara, rom isini grZnoben xifaTs,<br />
rom „ocneba” naklebad popularulia<br />
Tundac damwyebi politikosebisTvis<br />
da ramdenad sax-<br />
ifaTo niSnulze dganan isini?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, grZnoben.<br />
`vici, riT aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im<br />
deputatebs, romlebic wamosvlas apireben, -<br />
ivaniSvili pirdapir vaWrobs, - amas gagikeTeb,<br />
amdens mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian bevrs niSnavs<br />
politikaSi, magram gadis raRac dro, dgeba<br />
krizisuli niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />
aRaraferia~<br />
`dResve rom<br />
migviRon<br />
evrokavSirSi,<br />
orive xeliT<br />
mivesalmebi,<br />
mTeli Cemi<br />
partia<br />
droSebiT<br />
gamovalT<br />
quCaSi~<br />
vfiqrob, rom „qarTuli ocneba”,<br />
praqtikulad, dangreulia, realurad<br />
araferze dgas. isedac<br />
araferze idga, mxolod ivaniSvilis<br />
_ fulze. magram am fuls<br />
Zalian seriozulad amyarebda is<br />
pirovnuli ndoba, romelic biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis mimarT iyo. udavod,<br />
es gaxldaT maRali xarisxis<br />
ndoba da Zalian dasanania, rom am<br />
adamianma es ndoba, pativiscema da<br />
siyvaruli, romelic mis mimarT<br />
iyo saqarTvelos mosaxleobis absolutur<br />
umravlesobaSi, ase gaaniava.<br />
vinaidan mas endobian, vinaidan<br />
is bevrs uyvars da bevri<br />
afasebs mis gakeTebul saqmeebs,<br />
man, ratomRac, ifiqra, rom yvela<br />
unda marTos, yvelas Wkua unda<br />
aswavlos, yvelaferi iyidos da<br />
yvelaferi mis neba-survilze unda<br />
iyos. es iyo misi Zalian didi,<br />
ukve gamousworebeli Secdoma. ra<br />
Tqma unda, aman Zalian bevri politikuri<br />
miwisZvra gamoiwvia. Sei-<br />
Zleba patar-patara, romelsac<br />
ver vgrZnobT, magram, mogvianebiT,<br />
politikaSi garkeul Sedegs<br />
aucileblad moitans. procesi,<br />
romelic „qarTul ocnebaSia”<br />
dawyebuli, Seuqcevadia. vici, riT<br />
aCerebs biZina ivaniSvili im deputatebs,<br />
romlebic wamosvlas<br />
apireben, _ ivaniSvili pirdapir<br />
vaWrobs, _ amas gagikeTeb, amdens<br />
mogcem da a. S., fuli garkveuli<br />
periodis ganmavlobaSi Zalian<br />
bevrs niSnavs politikaSi, magram<br />
gadis raRac dro, dgeba krizisuli<br />
niSnuli da amis Semdeg fuli<br />
aRaraferia. es, daaxloebiT, aseT<br />
situacias hgavs: karg gemze rom<br />
iyoT dasasveneblad da Zalian<br />
bevri fuli gqondeT, am fuliT<br />
SegiZliaT kargad gaataroT dro,<br />
magram Tu gemi CaZirvas daiwyebs,<br />
fuli mniSvnelobas dakargavs,<br />
mTavaria, fizikurad gadarCe, didi<br />
albaTobiT, im fuliT savse<br />
Cemodans gemze datovebT, ar daiwyebT<br />
CemodanTan erTad CaZirvas.<br />
daaxloebiT asea politikaSic: ra-<br />
Rac periodi fuli muSaobs, magram<br />
roca politikuri gemi CaZirvas<br />
iwyebs, fuli aRarafers niSnavs.<br />
vfiqrob, saqarTveloSi ase-<br />
Ti viTareba TandaTanobiT yalibdeba.<br />
yvelaze didi pretenzia,<br />
rac ivaniSvilis mimarT maqvs, aris<br />
is, rom man Tavisi sakadro gadawyvetilebebiT<br />
katastrofuli magaliTi<br />
misca axalgazrdobas,<br />
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