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Cultural Surveys Hawai‘i Job Code: HALEA 2Community Contacts and ConsultationsUwekoolani, Hapakuka, Santos and Kahula. She is concerned about the development of thesummit and asks “when does it stop?” She is concerned about <strong>ATST</strong> being used by the militaryand putting Maui and the entire state in danger. Ms. Bailey describes feelings of mistrust of thegovernment. Ms. Bailey made mention of a significant rock located at the summit of Haleakalāand described this rock as a marker set at the point where all the east Maui ahupua‘a meet. Ms.Bailey also explained that Haleakalā Crater was traditionally used as a calendar and thatHawaiians tracked the path of the sun by observing the shadows on the crater floor. Times ofspecial significance at the summit were during the solstices and equinoxes and she stated that onthe solstice the sun’s rays hit Pu‘ukukui directly. Ms. Bailey states that the proposed <strong>ATST</strong> mustinterfere with this use of Haleakalā crater as a calendar.Ms. Bailey makes reference to a Hawaiian proverb about Pele:‘A‘ohe o kāhi nānā o luna o ka pali;iho mai a lalo nei;‘ike i ke au nui ke au iki, he alo a he alo.The top of the cliff isn’t the place to look at us;come down here and learn of the big and little current,face to face” (Pukui 1983: 24).This is meant to be an invitation to discuss something or learn the details of a matter. “Pelesaid this to Pā‘oa when he came to seek the lava-encased remains of his friend Lohi‘au” (Pukui1983: 24). Ms. Bailey says this of the scientists on Haleakalā and those who propose <strong>ATST</strong>, shewould like to see them come down and talk to the people, particularly elementary schoolstudents, “come down off the high mountain and teach the young people at their level”.6.1.6 Mr. Charlie LindseyMr. Charlie Lindsey considers Haleakalā sacred and does not want another observatory builtthere. Mr. Lindsey feels that there is too much up there now and if anything else is built, thensomething else should come down.6.1.7 Dr. Alan KaufmanDr. Kaufman explained that he goes to Haleakalā for recreation and stated that he has takenhis older children on overnight camping trips in the crater. He said that he takes visiting guests tothe crater one to two times a year. Dr. Kaufman's youngest son is part-Hawaiian and they havevisited the ahu at the summit. Dr. Kaufman explains that he wants his son to have memories andexperiences that “give him a sense of place and belonging.” Dr. Kaufman also explained that hehad passed our Community Contact Letter out at the last community meeting and no othermembers had any comments to share on the subject.6.1.8 Mr. Stanly H. Ki‘ope RaymondIn addition to Mr. Raymond's public comments and letters on behalf of Maui CommunityCollege's Hawaiian Studies Program, Mr. Raymond shared that he has visited the summit ofHaleakalā annually since he was a child. Growing up in Lahaina, Mr. Raymond explained that itwas quite a journey to the summit. As an adult Mr. Raymond goes there for spiritual purposes, toAPPENDIX F (2): Supplemental Cultural Impact Assessment For the Proposed AdvancedTechnology Solar Telescope (<strong>ATST</strong>) at Haleakalā High Altitude ObservatoriesTMK (2) 2-2-07:00896

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